The Evidence and Science of the Resurrection | The Lila Rose Podcast E102
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- As we enter into the Triduum on this Holy Thursday, we have our sights on Easter, to celebrate the Resurrection. In today’s fascinating episode, I sit down again with Fr. Robert Spitzer, S.J., physicist, Catholic priest, and President of the Magis Center to discuss some of the evidence and science of the Resurrection. We discuss 3 different ways to prove the resurrection of Jesus, including the Shroud of Turin, of which many believe to be the burial cloth of Jesus. Fr. Spitzer debunks many of the misconceptions of the Shroud of Turin including a break down of the 1988 carbon dating mishap. We discuss how the cloth’s image shows the wounds of Christ in great detail, and how the image on the cloth is a result of a powerful momentary flash of radiation.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro Sequence
00:31 Introduction
02:25 Welcome Fr. Spitzer
02:55 Who is Fr. Robert Spitzer, S.J.?
05:51 How A Priest Is So Involved in Academia
08:34 Seven Weeks Coffee
09:48 The Case for Jesus Christ the Resurrected Son of God
10:52 Traditional Arguments
16:12 Worship and Commissioning
21:02 The NT Wright Approach - Followers of the Messiah
27:12 Nimi Skincare
28:07 Is There Evidence of the Early Miracles?
31:47 2nd Temple Judaism on Resurrection
38:51 The Shroud of Turin - Scientific Evidence for Resurrection
40:20 Physical Characteristics of the Cloth
42:44 Debunking the Carbon Dating Controversy
46:45 Other Testing
49:46 Pollen Grains Embedded in the Shroud
53:32 Why So Few People Know About the Shroud
56:12 Every Life
56:59 Why We Know It is Jesus' Cloth
58:28 The Blood on the Cloth
1:00:25 Image Made By A Nuclear Reaction
1:03:46 How The Image Shows Jesus's Crucifixion
1:17:15 How The Image Could Have Been Created
1:20:31 How Radiation Made the Image
1:22:39 Particle Radiation Hypothesis
1:30:14 What Happened At the Resurrection
1:34:18 Learn More From The Magis Institute
1:34:47 Wrap Up
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I used to reject Fr Spitzer because he is a Jesuit, Catholic priest. I was so biased and judgemental! I am so sorry. He has totally won me over through his clear explanation. Lila you are a blessing. Praise the Lord!
I have problems with Catholicism regarding praying to saints but I consider them family in Christ. Fr. Spitzer has an incredible mind. He’s very smaht as they say in Boston!
Most Jesuits are good. Only a few infiltrated give them a bad name. That's why we, as Catholics need to study, learn the doctrine of the Church to avoid falling into mistakes or heresies.
@@yahkins1 we pray to saints, but we don't worship them. It's called a communion with the saints, like a conversation looking for guidance from humans who have shone so brightly in service of god.
Worshipping is for god alone.
@@theringthingz1916 my conviction stands in that there is not one example or admonition to pray to any dead saints in all the New Testament…. The silence speaks volumes.
Call me weak in faith or whatever but the scriptures are clear
“ we are complete in Christ (Col 2)…meaning lacking nothing for any prayer from a saint in heaven to fill, and the only mediator I need or want is Christ my savior!
“For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all “
1 Tim 2
I don’t think it is needed or wise to prayer to the dead even if a canonized saint, or the archangel Michael. It was the Lord Jesus who appeared to me in 2002 … no holy ones, just The Holy One.
For your suffering, I’m sorry my lord, I’m sorry for hurting you every day by sinning, I’m sorry, guide me to be a better person and follow your teachings, thank you for your sacrifice and the opportunity for salvation, I love you!!
A lovely prayer. Amen!! :)
Amen
Amen
“ Opportunity “ implying you could lose Salvation? How much scripture is needed to prove to us his assurances that He will “never leave or forsake us “and “nothing can separate us from love of Christ” Rom 8
“ He that began a good work in you will see it thru to completion”Phil 1
“Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy,”
Jude 1
Finally the Holy Spirit tells us we are his children
Experiencing for some length of time the fact that when we have turned away He has always brought us back to himself in repentance proving the scripture…
“ No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.”
1 John 3
@yahkins1 The unforgiving servant was forgiven his debts, but when he didn't forgive another servant's debt his master told him " ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33 And should not you have had mercy on your fellow servant, as I had mercy on you?’ 34 And in anger his master delivered him to the jailers,[e] until he should pay all his debt. 35 So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart.”
1 John 3 says "9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's[b] seed abides in him;"
So the condition is that the seed abide. The parable of the mustard seeds says that not all soil makes the seed abide.
1 Corinthians 1:18 18 "For the message about the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."
Notice that says "being saved," implying it's a process, not a one time occurrence.
Petition for Fr Spitzer to write a full book on the Shroud.
Id recommend looking at Walter McCrones paper - google shroud of turin Walter McCrone. He viewed 32 tapings with over 30k threads. He was a forensic scientist. Solved murders by looking at blood on threads through microscope. spoiler alert. He concluded not one drop of blood. All paint from the 1300's, as later confirmed by 3 top labs via carbon dating.
I would love that but I do want to point you to the website Magis Center I think it's called. He's got many great research papers there
I believe he will address the Shroud significantly in his upcoming book, Science at the Doorstep to Jesus, coming out this fall
@@TheMichFish it’s a painting. A forensic scientist verified it was made in the 1300’s, a decade before the carbon dating from 3 labs said the 1300’s. Google Walter Mccrone shroud of Turin and you can see his report.
@@JezuesChavez Sir you clearly haven't watched the video, nor read that the journal that released that carbon dating study, Archeometry, has released a review stating the results were invalid. They tested a repaired corner. And only due to a law being passed that compelled them to release their raw data and a video of them taking their sample did we see that they only tested one corner and split it and sent it to 3 labs, and the results were too heterogenous to be valid, because the corner was interweaved with new material during repair.
Painting has also been refuted as a method.
I am watching this on Easter Sunday 2024 with tears in my eyes.
Awesome interview. God bless this podcast and Fr. Spitzer's work. The world needs the Way, the Truth and the Light. The world needs Christ!
It's down to free will, no one is stopping people choosing to become Christians. Religion doesn't work politically, as you can't have people claiming they've been given prophetic dreams in important government positions but yeah the World could do with some peace, hope & charity.
He left us the first ever photograph in history- and in part the remnant of His body and blood. Glory to Jesus Christ.
I have wondered if an image was formed on the burial clothes worn by Lazarus.
@@user-or6ki1ks9l Lazarus didn't transition into his resurrected body like Jesus did, and if there was a boom and a flash like Father here is talking about for Lazarus it would likely be in the Bible.
@@user-or6ki1ks9lthe wounds on the image corresponds with every wound Jesus was reported to have.
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I used to question if Jesus/God is real. I look back and can't believe I ever did but my faith in him is so strong I know for certain he was real and rose 💖
I have always been on the fence the shroud. I have been one of the dumbest, most blind and deaf men on Earth for my nigh on to 60 years. I was one of those men looking for proof , and denying the proof that God gave us. I am dumb no more.Just as the Roman centurion at the foot of the cross , i say surely this man was the Son of God!
Lila we could all see you about to break down weep while Father Spitzer described the agony of Our Lord. I was right there with you.
My deepest most heartfelt thanks and gratitude for bringing in Father Spitzer. I am viewing this on Good Friday 2024. I has been the greatest Easter gift for me ever. I also thank your sponsors 7 Weeks Coffee and Nimi. They have a faithful new customer for having the courage and foresight to back such a great show!
Only a fool can deny what was presented here. I can attest to that, because I was one....
Thanks so much for sharing this. Praise God. Have a most Blessed Easter 🙏
Iam watching this from Ireland on Easter Saturday 2024. Thank you Lila Rose.....such a beautiful name. ❤ God bless you... Happy Easter 💚🇮🇪🙏
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Hello. How to contact Robert Spitzer? Almost all disussions about the Shroud are referring to the image. But nobody explains the full context in the gospels. Just picking out and/or twisting some verses or telling non biblical stories.
So I claim that there is NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels! Read and trust the Bible.
I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of UA-cam channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said:
1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good,
I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear):
Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.
Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg].
Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews.
Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus.
(1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"?
I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts.
Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only?
If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from?
Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON?
Answer: In the context SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time.
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph.
(2) SPICES > stains/particles
Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time.
STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!?
But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!?
And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin?
Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body - EXCEPT THE HEAD - was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross.
(3) SOUDARION Shroud
If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). And despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!
Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply to cover the head and it remained there until the resurrection.
(4) WOMEN > anointing
Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus.
How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in something like the Shroud with the spices?
To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!?
Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing/readding the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin.
So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus:
Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
There is a high risk to open the heart for the spirit of idoltry. The consequences you can read e.g. in almost all the commentaries of beverlyhurd8556 on different Shroud related channels where she agressively interfere herself and insults with invectives everybody who is not of her opinion. She knows the Shroud but she doesn't know Jesus and what he said:
Mt 5,22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, “Raca,” is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, “You fool!” will be in danger of the fire of hell.
But there is hope also for her:
1Joh 1,9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Gal 5,22+23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
"My Gawd, My Gawd, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?" (What if that is the ONLY authentic statement?)
@@user-zg9oo5bj4f Well sir that statement is the beginning of and reference to Psalm 22. Please read psalm 22 in its entirety to understand that statement.
Thanks so much for this, Lila. Father Spitzer is a national treasure.
I’m glad Father Spitzer clarified that the wounds on Christ’s hands were at an angle-with wounds on the palms and the wrists. I was confused when I thought about the wrist wounds being inconsistent with the stigmata. But his explanation shows there is no inconsistency. Thank you.
Lila and Fr. Spritzer, perfect timing on this episode! I am currently reading Fr. Spitzer's book, "Science at the Doorstep to God." I already believed, but now know there is undeniable proof of His existence.
With the record of the Catholic church he should've called it "Science When it Suits Us"
I suggest reading it before making such statements
@@TheMichFish I'm taking a break from fantasy fiction. I'm reading Reformation by Diarmaid MacCulloch.
@@johnmichaelson9173 let us know if there are any long words you need help with.
I am only able to comprehend a small amount but I believe in this remarkable account of the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Thank you so much!
What a wealth of knowledge Father Spitzer is! Praise God! It was so difficult to hear of all that Jesus went through for us. May I live my life to console Jesus’ precious heart.
Thousands and thousands of people went through the same agony as Jesus, scourged and then crucified. Many left alive on the cross for days, it was such a barbaric act & practised across the Empire from Israel to England.
"Jesus left us the particles of His body....." We don't deserve it, but the goodness and kindness of Christ continues to astound me. Lila, this interview will be in your Top 5 this year for sure.
God bless you, Lila & Fr Spitzer 🙏🏼 Lila, I love you & your podcast. Thank you for spreading the word and our faith! I love listening to these talks so much. I am a cradle Catholic but had my true conversion last year right around this time after losing my Dad & watching his faithfulness through his own suffering. Your work has truly helped me better understand our faith and helped me to draw closer to Christ ❤
I’m so sorry for the loss of your Dad. Thank you for listening and so glad to be here to encourage you ❤
Thank you, Lila, for bringing this incredible information to light.
We should be shouting about this from the rooftops, and yet I had no idea about this as an Orthodox Christian.
Fr. Spitzer is amazing at conveying this complex information in a passionate and accessible manner.
Thank you.
❤
What’s an Orthodox Christian? Do you practice Christianity more strictly than other Christians?
Dear Lord, forgive us, have mercy on us. Amen
I could listen to Fr Spitzer all day. He’s the best. Thanks for this great podcast
Please bring back Father Spitzer: his description of the shroud and the history behind it is absolutely fascinating.
It's always a joy to listen to Father Spitzer, who speaks to everyone. Occasionally, he'll use a word I need to look up, but that keeps me learning. Thank you for all you do, Father Spitzer.
Sweet Jesus, I’m so sorry 💔. Thank you, dear Lord.
Thank you Lila and Fr. Spitzer. Praise God for the obedience of his son, Jesus. For Jesus' life, death, and resurrection!
Jesus suffered so greatly for us not only to show his burning love for each and every one of us, but also so that we know how serious our sins truly are.
Standing ovation! That was some mind blowing science.
Wow, just wow! Fr is such a knowledgeable man. Fantastic episode 🙏🏼
I stumbled onto your channel Lila while I was scrolling through Bishop Robert Barron's homilies. Amazing info from Fr. Spitzer, I'm now subscribed... Praise to you Lord Jesus Christ!
This is absolutely amazing!! Jesus is King! Jesus is Lord!
YES! AMEN!
CANNN I GET AN AMENNNNNN!
We fought the Revolutionary War so we would no longer have kings and lords to bow down to and be humiliated by. I definitely prefer life in a democratic society instead of a kingdom or a theocracy, often one and the same.
@stevepierce6467
You see.... the reason yeshua is the king of kings is because he comes to bring about a world of peace, prosperity, stability, truth, freedom, and justice. Something you do not currently have.
@@theredeemeriam Real kings were bad enough, so let's add on imaginary ones! Until you come up with evidence that a god, any of the thousands of gods we humans have created, actually exists, your words are utterly empty and meaningless. I personally went to school (where I ran into an old schoolmate whose resentful and irate evangelicalism turned me away from religion), got a degree, married, got a decent job, and have ended up with "peace, prosperity, stability.....etc" We all know for a fact that utter godless heathens can prosper (look at Trump) and devout bible-thumpers can fall on horrible hard times (look at the Appalachian coal country and the rust belt of the northeast). You state that "the reason yeshua....." as though this were fact. It is not fact, it is a claim. You must provide evidence.
This is amazing! I believe this shroud to be true. Blessed be God FOREVER!
Science and faith are fully compatible. Science explains "how" philosophy answers "why" and faith what for, so we can get to know the truth (meaning the whole reality and all its aspects).God bless everyone.
I am also watching on Easter Sunday 2024 with tears in my eyes.
I don't deserve the incredible, tortuous sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
I repent every day for my sins.
There are no words to express my gratitude and love for my Father in Heaven and my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Jesus IS coming again soon, accept the gift Jesus has given us before it is too late.
I don't deserve our Lord's sacrifice either! Thank you dear Jesus for dying for our sins.
Could this be why He left the cloth folded nearly behind in the tomb? Amazed at the detail of our God. He sees the entirety of history and knew they would do this type of scientific test. I might be wrong for the other possible reason but man, this is amazing 🙌🏾🙌🏾
That's a bit of a leap that people have taken. One minute it's, could this be the burial shroud of Jesus? Next it's a photograph of the resurrection, powered by low temperature nuclear reaction. Next it's all been meticulously planned by God, down to the testing & the folding of the cloth. These explanations, they're not exactly Occam's Razor, in fact it's the complete opposite but on steroids. Whether it's the planning or the modus operandi it simply couldn't get any more complicated & labyrinthine in it's explanation.
Also the fact that when the Eucharist turned to blood during the miracle of Buenos Aires and that blood was also AB blood type just like the shroud of Turin is insane
What a gift from God. Viva Cristo Rey!!!
No Christian explains this mystery better than a priest who is gifted with the grace of ordination from Holy Mother Church.
Yes 🙏🏻
Thank you Fr Spitzer for your knowledge and gift of preaching with scientific arguments; Thank you Lila, God bless you both, and I’ll be waiting for the episode on Eucharistic miracles
God bless Fr Spitzer, showing up for us despite a heavy cold. Wonderful episode, thank you ❤
I would love to see this guy on Joe Rogan. He already unsarcastically said we need Jesus recently. It would be a good next step
Jesus is alive, today, tomorrow and forever 🙏🙌❤️
Such a helpful and rich piece to listen to. What a blessing! Thank you for sharing both of you!
CHRIST IS KING!
Hallelujah!! Our king!!
Thank you Lila for this interview with Ft. Spitzer! I loved it 🥰
WOW JUST WOW! PRAISE OUR AWESOME GOD!! THANK YOU JESUS!!!❤
Spectacular. Thank you both and thank you Fr. Spitzer for handling the science and explanation.
Years ago, when they first showed The Shroud of Turin on TV, and were saying it might be the shroud that Jesus was wrapped in, I couldn’t believe that there was any doubt as to its veracity. To me it was God’s gift to us to take away anyone’s doubt that Jesus truly arose from death. Finally,the scientists have proven that it is truly the shroud that Jesus was wrapped in. Th amazing thing is that His image appears not only the front but also the back!
as someone who loves science, I loved this! I always have thought that God and science aren't incompatible and loves hearing experts giving theories and that they try to explain some miraculous things with a scientific view. God is really amazing and his creation even more! Thanks for this, it was so interesting and helpful ! God blessed your work and family
Awesome Glory to the King of kings
Thank you for bringing this scientific evidence to all Christians and non Christians. Science could never prove there is no God! Christ is King! 🤍
Its great he left this shroud for all of us doubting Thomas's😂😊
You love us so much, that you suffered to forgive us of our sins. Demons have lost this battle. I love you Jesus ❤
Amazing grace!
Great interview. Congratulations to both!🎉
I am going to dare to say that in Mexico, the story and facts of the Shroud are pretty well known. Maybe not by all, but quite an important number of Catholic people are familiar with it, because even the Government has brought expositions of the replicated Shroud to town several times, snd the Catholic communicators have i clouded it in their programs for many years. But only now, as I have watched your video, I have come to understand how important is to keep this info fresh and alive, because it represents a huge evidence for people who cannot see the reality of Jesus' resurrection if not seen by science.
Many blessings ❤
Jesus left his whole heart in the Eucharist 😊
Body, blood, soul and divinity ❤
Blessed Eastern! HE has Risen ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
God bless Pastor Spitzer and Mrs. Rose ✝️ and happy Easter 🌸
Thank you Lila and Fr Spitzer! Very informative and inspiring! God bless you both! 🙏👍
Wow. What an amazing episode. Thanks Lila and father.
Amazing podcast. Thank you so much
I hear people say they don't need a cloth to get some faith. We should all be like that. However, the Shroud is here for a reason. It's our reality. And it's up to us to find out exactly what's going on with it.
This brings sadness for what Jesus had to do for me to live and joy that He arose and loves me.
I love you Fr Spitzer! You answered a question I submitted years ago on Fr Spitzer's Universe. God bless you and your incredible mind.
Thank you! You have strengthened my faith! Jesus is our lord and savior!
For those who have faith no proof is necessary. For those who don't no proof is sufficient.
Yes, you are right. For those who believe in Jesus according to the Scripture there is no need for a relic like the Shroud.
@@wipo3654 Peter himself walked on water and yet he still had moments where he doubted and even denied that he knew Jesus. If even Peter can express doubt, then having an extra reminder and something physical to point to is very helpful. The resurrection is what saves you, and having something physical to point to the resurrection is a wonderful addition.
@@loganleroy8622 I walk on water too. When I'm Ice fishing.
@@loganleroy8622
It is FAITH that saves and for me and many others such a relic is not necessary. I rely on the Bible where you can read that after his resurrection Jesus appeared Maria Magdalene, then his disciples and more than 500 people. And all who believed later relied on their oral or written testimony. No Shroud mentioned over centuries and ...
... NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels! Read and trust the Bible.
I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of UA-cam channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said:
1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good,
I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear):
Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.
Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg].
Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews.
Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus.
(1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"?
I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts.
Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only?
If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from?
Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON?
Answer: In the context SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time.
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph.
(2) SPICES > stains/particles
Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time.
STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!?
But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!?
And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin?
Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body - EXCEPT THE HEAD - was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross.
(3) SOUDARION Shroud
If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). And despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!
Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply to cover the head and it remained there until the resurrection.
(4) WOMEN > anointing
Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus.
How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in something like the Shroud with the spices?
To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!?
Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing/readding the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin.
So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus:
Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
I'm so excited for this episode. Love the work yall do at Live Action
Illuminating interview 🩵 Thank you so much! 🙏🏻
It also explains the earthquake and bright light reported by the soldiers in the Bible, the earthquake that moved the stone, as also reported by the women.
An angel moved the stone
Matthew 28.And in the end of the sabbath, when it began to dawn towards the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalen and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre. 2 And behold there was a great earthquake. For an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and coming, rolled back the stone, and sat upon it. 3 And his countenance was as lightning, and his raiment as snow. 4 And for fear of him, the guards were struck with terror, and became as dead men. 5 And the angel answering, said to the women: Fear not you; for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified-Douay-Rheims uncut Bible
The three Jewish men that were invited to work on the Shroud in ‘76 left convinced it was real.
Everyone should watch Barry Schwartz’s videos on this topic. He said that it restored his belief in God.
I hope they became Catholic
Schwartz, from my understanding, doesn’t believe it’s the Messiah. It hasn’t brought him to Christ.
@@CoreyJason He stated that he is not Christian but he also said that it restored his faith in God. Sounds like a bit of a contradiction. I believe there’s some cognitive dissonance there with him being Jewish, especially since he was orthodox before turning secular. It’s a big no, no to claim Jesus as the messiah as an orthodox. It can make for a very hard life among your family and peers.
@@Joefest99 that’s what I thought too. However, let’s pray for him that he eventually does.
@@CoreyJason I absolutely will!
Hope you and your family have a blessed Holy Thursday, Lila.
Luke 22:19 Then He took the bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which will be given for you; do this in memory of me.”
Absolutely amazing
SHARE SHARE SHARE!!! PRAISE BE TO GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, and GOD THE HOLY GHOST 🙏🙏🙏
Fr. Sitzer was excellent. Lila should interview Fr. Spitzer about what he thinks about string theory and the existence of other dimensions other than space and time.
One of the few good Jesuists left...Fr. Spitzer is the MAN!!!!! (actually after Jesus of course)
He's RISEN, He's KING....¡VIVA CRISTO REY!!!!!
I agree that many Jesuits tend to be on the left and radical departing from the faith in some of the globalist aspects, but make no mistake, there are still many good Jesuits who quietly lead their flock.
That was the best description I've ever heard in my whole life!
Thank you!
These is amazing!
Love this interview. The Shroud of Turin is fascinating and is absolutely the real deal, the 5th gospel. It’s either depicting the body of someone crucified EXACTLY like Christ or it is Christ himself. And if the former, no one can explain how it was done. If the latter, the resurrection is a pretty good explanation.
Lila is so underrated
Thanks Lila! Great Podcast!
We need to promote and make the world aware of the shroud! I'd never even heard of it till a year ago.
What an incredible amount of information. Simultaneously, what a disappointment it is to perform a simple Google search is for the current information we have about the shroud.
More people are hearing about it everyday. I tell anybody and everybody that will listen about it.
This is a beautiful commentary by Fr. Spitzer, but for the skeptics out there, I like to hear Fr. Spitzer's take on alien technology from outer-space -- basically, what would they have to gain by doing this?
Amazing! And bless Lila !
Christ is king ❤
How our Lord suffered for us to be saved and be happy in heaven forever with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and all the saints!
As St. Thomas Aquinas points out, Jesus began meriting our salvation from the moment he was incarnate in the womb of his mother, and his very first meritorious action was enough to save us. But he chose to go all the way to his brutal torture and death FOR US, because his love is an immense ocean for us. Praise to Jesus our glorious king forever!
Thanks for sharing this. Not everyone is blessed to know what you have been blessed to know.
I thought the original NASA scientists who investigated the Shroud said the Image was formed by photons
The Bible does not say that Jesus being born, or His perfect life merited or paid for our sins.
THE BIBLE says without THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD there is no remission of sins. Must be Biblically true & accurate; it's God's word.❤
If Aquinas said this, he is wrong. Best to check what the BIBLE says!😊 Trust God's word, don't rely on fallible men.
If Jesus is the Son, how could he be with the Son? If Jesus is a King, where is his Kingdom? Who are his subjects? How exactly do his subjects benefit from his sacrifice? Why doesn’t the Catholic Church teach about this instead of only what Jesus did almost 2000 years ago? I suppose it’s because they don’t know.
I have been studying this issue for a long time. To me the case is beyond doubt that this is the shroud of Messiah.
I didn’t have much hope to learn anything new through this vid, yet I did. Thanks for posting it.
The info on the Shroud starts at 40:10.
Happy Easter, thank you ❤
There is always an apostle who has to his finger in the side of jesus to believe, blessed are those who didn't see but still believe
Christ is King! Thank you, Lauren!
"Christ is King" is a meme and thus a way of taking Jesus name in vain.
@@asggerpatton7169 it is a religious truth. If there are people who use it wrongly, that does nothing to change that fact.
@@johncassani6780 The use of the phrase became popular last year when the israel - hamas war started, so it's definitely not just a christian self affirmation, but a not so subtle attack on jews.
Jesus asked that we see him as a teacher a friend and brother we are family. Jesus has no ego
@@asggerpatton7169The phrase was used WAAAAY before that. And people were condemning the phrase then. If you're Christian, there shouldn't be any problem saying "Christ is King."
Would have been nice to see Father a little more enthusiastic. Lol😂
Best scientific explanation ever!!! What an amazing gift Our Lord gave us!! I always believed it, but now at a different level.
Wish Nova on PBS would do a documentary on this but l wouldn't hold my breath. Proof to the world.
Father is tired. He is a very busy priest❤❤❤❤
I'm kidding! Father is awesome and such an inspiration. Excellent interview. God bless and Happy Easter😊
Great podcast! Loved the content! ❤
wow! subscribed. didn't know about this channel before. this was an incredible and unique presentation, in terms of the types of evidence. thanks Lila for sharing this.
Amazing!
Great Vidieo. Thank you.
Halleluyah, amen ❤😊✝️
Beautiful ❤
I'm a believer!
Thank you for sharing. Have been listening to Father Spitzer for about 3-4 months now. Have learned allot about the shroud of our Lord and the science behind it. As well with astrophysics and cosmology. Hope you had a wonderful Easter. You’d enjoy a conversation on your podcast with Astrophysicist Hugh Ross. God bless you!
The early church was persecuted for about the amount of time the United States has been a country! Crazy!
I am stunned
You did a good job with this.
ALWAYS admissible ( witness statement: " to the situation" and eyewitnesses)
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What an amazing proof of the legitimacy of the Shroud of Turin as the burial cloth of Jesus! Such a trajedy that the enemy tried to discredit it in 1988. The truth always comes to light though!