Testing the Tester ⚡️ SMD AMM-1 Audio Multimeter vs. Fluke375 Clamp + B2 Audio Rage 2500 Amplifier
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Just in case you didn't know, SMD D'Amore Engineering tools are VERY accurate. The AMM-1 has been out for over 10 years and is a favorite of many including myself for a reason. The DD-1 is Patented and have almost sold 30,000 units! That is NOT including all the DD-1 HV, DD-1+, CC-1, IMSG and any of the LED meters. We ONLY want to make products we know you will love because we love them too! All of the tools are available everywhere but they always sell out fast. Get yours while you can. Autographed units are available only at www.wccaraudio.com Thanks for watching if you did!
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Just in case you didn't know, SMD D'Amore Engineering tools are VERY accurate. The AMM-1 has been out for over 10 years and is a favorite of many including myself for a reason. The Standard Distortion Detector DD-1 is Patented and have almost sold 30,000 units! That is NOT including all the DD-1 HV, DD-1+, CC-1, IMSG and any of the LED meters. We ONLY want to make products we know you will love because we love them too! All of the tools are available everywhere but they always sell out fast. Get yours while you can. Autographed units are available only at www.wccaraudio.com Thanks for watching if you did!
You got any dd-1 or cc-1 on sale or used?
@@meade916 what is a quality brand to buy
Steve can you please explain to me how the SMD tool helps to set your gains (forgive me kinda new to car audio but have been wanting to buy one for a while now) so to my knowledge/understanding if you use the SMD DD1 then it sets your gains to not clip at 40hz one specific frequency so when I play a song that has a myriad of freqs how can I be sure that they're all going to be clean and not just the 40hz that it was set to? Is it just once it is set to 40hz then the rest will also be unclipped or how does that work honestly I do not know and wanted to ask before I spend the money...
@@kevinAuman1 this tool isn't for setting gains. The DD-1 and DD-1+ is what you would use for that. As for the frequency used, that dont really matter. It's a reference point to set the gains. You couldn't possibly set the gains with the millions of frequencies that happen during music anyway.
@meade916 own 3 of your meters the best thing to do not that this matters get your hands on the basshead garage BHG-WM and put all this nonsense to rest
signing all those units at 6:05 in the morning and already been there almost 2 hours...I always appreciate that you guys chose SMD products so I gotta make sure i get it in and earn it. My crew does the same, they are amazing!
Best of all Steve didn't even argue back or bash anyone , he let the meters do all the talking in his defense..totally professional! ! 💯
I respect it 💯
Mad respect. Crazy 2024 and folks still bashing and acting mad. Props to Steve. My meters are all still working great.
Absolutely love my DD-1+ and CC-1 and suggest them to anyone getting into car audio. I’ve even proven to multiple people that they are the more reliable choice when properly tuning.
Can’t wait until I’m able to get the AMM-1 and the IM-SG+ but I don’t work on systems as a profession and due to health issues it’s taking a little time.
I just defended the SMD tool lineup and D’Amore Engineering a few days ago on another UA-cam channel.
We all knew this was coming! 😂
Yep..yuo know how steav rolls!!!! Im stansing behind my prouducts to!!!!
This guy is a genius for coming with this
I am 1/3rd of our team but the real credit and the real genius's are Tony and Juan, my partners. There is no "this guy" about it. But I know you mean well and I really appreciate it and thank you!
I run smd products in my tahoe and this video Made me a fan even more.
thank you sir! Much appreciated.
The results of the Parker the Basshead video was pretty wild. I would like to see him do what you did. Use a clamp and scopemeter to use ohms law to show the accuracy of both meters. This would also show if the cheaper watt meter accurately detected clipping. I'm not sure how much electronics Parker knows, though. I use Fluke products every day at work. If the AMM-1 has the accuracy of a Fluke clamp meter, that would explain the high cost of the meter.
@TRONMAGNUM2099 I have the bass head garage meter and I never thought it was accurate to start with . I barely see 800 watts on my dd audio 9510L rated at 2500 rms and the woofer wants to come out the box I almost feel like im about to blow it . I thought I was just putting 800 watts to it . But now that I seen that video I'm probably pushing triple that to the woofer . Kinda want to get a amm1 .
@@AppAccess123 I emailed D'Amore engineering for the Tolerances allowed for AC volts, DC volts, and AC amps. I have precision references that I can test against. My friend owns an AMM-1 that I can test to see if it meets spec or not. My guess is that it does. Nowadays test equipment is cheap and generally accurate.
Fluke is the best on the market yours is dead on with the fluke you know it's top notch meter I'm saving up to purchase your products
Fluke is all we ever use in Aviation and ours have to be calibrated yearly! Never seen one go bad and not pass calibration.
I own the amm1 the dd1 and the cc1. I will get the dd1 plus and the imsg1 . I own them because i tested them against my clamp and my scope and they were just as acurate and i didnt need to pull out clunky equipment. Im physically handicapped and the amm1 and the cc1 have been my best friends ever since. I trust the products 100 percent and havent had any stereo issues in almost 5 to 6 years since i bought these. Thanks steve and thank you mr dmaore for making my life easier. Its just so much easier in my wheel chair.
I own the CC1 and DD1 and absolutely love them! Soon an AMM1 for my tool box coming soon.
I only wish I could ever have just one of these. Such a great tool to have in your belt
When I watched those other 2 videos about your dd1 and am1 I had no doubt which of the tools was off. Everyone's a hater. If you buy something with SMD on the label your getting the best of the best. SMD stands for quality and excellence. Love everything you and your company produce. Thanks for all the amazing products.
Lemme get a chair and some popcorn 😅🍿
Steve great products keep the quality up. Love the B2 audio amps. When I saw your truck setup I decided to get rage 2500 also and love it.
It's actually quite awesome to see how that sub handles and measurements of the meters, my brother.
So i can get a 150$ clamp meter and run the same test as the SMD ?
sure, if you are measuring amperage. That is what a clamp does. 🤷♂️
@@meade916 So the smd just converts it for you? nice tool.
@@zeuzlida it does more than that it is an Audio Multimeter. Several functions.
BEST TOOLS EVER! SMD FTW!
Excelente Test Steve, B2 lo mejor👍🏻
This has to be the response from that new meter that was shown over the weekend that was compated to the smd meter
Compared
ya, the bro's at Subs N Paws were trying to show it but they didn't use a tone generator so it's kind of all over the place (due to the beat in the music). I wanted to do a more stable comparison using the IMSG+ as my source.
Hell yeah, I love my CC-1 and DD-1+.... wish the DD-1+ was signed like my CC-1 but that is just a personal preference. Accurate as hell and work without question! Can't wait to add the IMSG and the AMM-1 one day soon. Cheers!
Thank you. This video was not needed but succeeded. Get them haters outa here 🎉
My guy!💪 Sometimes folks just gotta take their L.
You are covering up the real problems and flaws with this kind of videos... The real issue isn't with voltage or current measurements, but with the wattage calculation, especially when dealing with Brazilian amplifiers. Latest Subs & Paws video is excellent example.. 210A x 9V at DC input of the amplifier = 3800w+ at amplifier output.. yeah right..
covered up? what? LOL...there are no problems and flaws. Dude, just stop, you sound silly.
oh, FYI, this amp isn't Brazilian. It is rated to do between 1800 and 2kw at 2 ohms....and it did 1900 and some change. Sounds about right. This same amp did 3kw at 1ohm which is about right also. I don't need to explain anything to you. The tools do all the talking.
@@meade916 Latest Subs & Paws video.. How can you explain 3800w+? with 210 amperage and 9v voltage drop at the amplifier input?
@@massiveviral5603 It was too hard to follow what they were trying to do. It sounded louder when they ran it the 2nd time but regardless, if anything maybe there is some voltage spike happening and the AMM-1 is catching it. Those aren't the cleanest amps to begin with. Maybe Ill buy that same 3000 watt amp and test it myself and then forward it to my engineers and have them take a look as well using their Audio Precision. I personally have never had any issues like this with any of my AMM-1's and I have been using them for years.
A bluetooth version of the amm1 would be sick af
I was thinking having a clamp on it so i don't have to remove my speaker wire each time i want to test my watts on my amp during tuning.
Yea !! Clap back Steve
He did. The meters did all the clapping. 😂
for what it's worth I am glad to see Steve back his product up. It works perfectly. Now for the other video we are all referring to... I don't think it was his (UA-camr's) fault but maybe some faulty hardware from the other manufacturer. but as Steve has done here, we would need to see the clamp test with the amperage difference. Thanks for providing this video Steve!
Great stuff as always. One day i will buy these tools and dial my stuff in proper
there are other ways to do things that are a little cheaper. For example, learn how to set gains with an O-scope. But unlike 99.999% of the people on youtube, set the gains with the o-scope properly. It's basically the same technique the original dd-1 uses. Get good at it. Understand it. Then someday treat yourself to one of these. The DD-1 especially the DD-1+ is by far the best way to set gains but learning the fundamentals with a scope first will help you appreciate our tools so much more.
@meade916 ya I have used snap on scanner o scope to set gains before the other mechanics were trippin
I figured the AMM-1 was the more accurate one. But I think the BHG meter is just more practical as far as mounting it up front to monitor your system on the go. But like the old saying goes “you get what you pay for” 🤷🏾♂️. If Steve was to come out with a more portable version to mount up front it would sell out over night for sure 💪🏾💪🏾. Keep Doing what you doing Steve 🔊🔊💨💨
our dash mountable unit has been in the works for a few years now. We just never finished it. That other meter is just another unoriginal bootleg. Nobody can ever come up with their own ideas.
@@meade916 I agree….that’s with the entire car audio industry. It’s so many clones of everything no one beside a select few companies really pushes the envelope to stand out and be original. Love your work and content been following for years 💪🏾💪🏾. 🔊🔊💨💨
@@BassAddict91 thank you my bro I really appreciate you.
@@meade916 I didn't know you invented Ohm's law, and ways to measure electrical signals, that's cool! 🤣
@@Mark_5150 who said I did? I never said that. We do have tools that measure all of that though and yes it is very cool. Our tools are patented. What have you done with your miserable 17 years on this planet? Nothing...lol that's cool!
I own a DD1+ and a CC1. I purchased 2 rechargeable 9 volt lithium batteries for $13.99 off Amazon. Best upgrade to these good devices. No need to worry about having to purchase fresh batteries which I saw was a complaint. Does anyone know if these devices have firmware updates available and how to?
They don’t need any firmware/software. They’re just meters. Multi-function meters that can do more than 1 measurement at a time in some cases.
I mean who are you gonna trust Steve (the creator of the meters and also SMD products) or people who barely started in car audio? Rhetorical question by the way. SMD for the win!
It isn't just me it is a full collaboration with 2 the best engineers in the business, my good friends Tony and Juan at D'Amore Engineering. We partnered up almost 15 years ago and made this all happen as a team :) thank you though I do appreciate it!
Well I have the….
Amm-1
IM-SG+
CC-1
DD-1
I’ve used them for several years and have taken my installs to the next level. Now with that said. I use meters that are thousands of dollars in my trade. And I have used cheap ones along side of them. I have learned that some of them pick up things others don’t. Is it due to quality? Component tolerances? Or just wizardry? I don’t know but I recently had a guy come to me to figure out why he kept killing subs. Well his pocket Oscilloscope from Temu or whatever wasn’t showing the terrible square wave that mine did.. 30$ VS 800$ used. now one thing I don’t understand is will the car audio community ever not have hate? Prob not. 😂
Yo, your tools are dope and do work precisely as intended and perfectly.
I knew they was right on spec but i would guess if your 9 volt battery was low it might throw it off some ***Maybe***
nope. The 9v works till it dies.
Do I set my gains on my amp for my subs first or do I set my lc2i first. I'm new to trying to do things right. Any help would be appreciated. I have the dd-1.
Lc2i first cause it's sets the voltage for the amp. Then you set the gain on the amp. That's how the shop did mines. Also using a lc2i.
@roblinprasad528 thanks.
I wouldn't tune any amp without my DD-1 or my CC-1, money well spent in my opinion...
Professionally Handled!!! I don’t think SOME people really know what they’re doing in other videos!! You Da Man SMD!! Love your products!
around 2.2ohms DC 1.75-2ohm AC lots on inductance on the coil is it an aluminum coil former ? and or a shorting ring
DD1 + CC1 For the win
👏👏great stuff👍👍
I know why you made this. Thanks for making this. People jump to conclusions without letting the other party defend themselves. Very childish. My meter works great! Thanks Steve!
i am not allowed to defend myself anymore. Plus I don't have all week to go back and forth with these creepy little disgruntled momma's boys who still live at home and have nothing better to do. Most of them have no car and no system to put one in so how they can be so vile and cowardly in the things they say is just astounding to me. I guess when you are unemployed and live at home in your childhood bedroom, you have nothing better to do all day.
Any opinions on ds18. Amps ?
you will soon see.... #SMD
Hooligan I like @meade916
Which meter would you use to gain match 3 identical sub amps ,and is it pretty close amp to amp?
I would use the DD-1+ because you can see the voltage reading on the screen. Or you can use the CC-1 (crossover calibrator) in "competition mode" (a special little side mode) and calibrate everything that way.
Exelent tools👍
Nice video
❤ my DD1
You're the man Steve, and you always hit hard in the end. SMD 4 THE WIN 🎉🎉❤
The only real issue with the AAM1 is that it was reading way more power when it started to clip than the cheaper one... You never demonstrated that in this video.... I am not trying to be an ass or anything but that was the only real difference between the two...
when an amp gets clipped hard it can easily put out as much as double it's rated power. That is one of the first things you learn when you start playing with car audio and amps. That is why clipping is bad. I am glad I was able to address your only real issue. We should be good now. :)
I pulled this up to save you some time and since it was the first thing that came up. Please do some more research. "Clipping is a form of waveform distortion that occurs when an amplifier is overdriven and attempts to deliver an output voltage or current beyond its maximum capability. Driving an amplifier into clipping may cause it to output power in excess of its power rating."
@@meade916 I did not mean any disrespect... Thank you for the added info.... :TU:
@@meade916 Honest question, so would you say the meter is as accurate as the amm-1 before clipping? If you follow Steve's instructions to run a sub amp without clipping that a 90$ meter that's mountable in a build is a option?
@@meade916just learned something new
Moral of the story if you suck at math and can’t understand Ohms Law buy the tools to do it for you!!! lol JK I have the three meters in my tool bag!! I'm a yo yo basshead.... i love this stuff!!!
I've used the smd dd1 already for tuning it 💪
Questions answered...💯💯💯
wasn't parkers test watts.... like the difference between steves and the new one and the Big discrepancy between the two?
Did you watch the whole video? 🤔
@@antheny916 I thought I did. I must have missed some. I just remember the watts difference. I will go watch it again
Watts tested @ 4:00 If that’s what you’re referring to.
@@antheny916 yeah I seen that. but what I was referring to was In parkers video he place Steve's and the new one side by side testing the same thing and the new one red 900 watts and Steve's red like 1700 watts testing the same thing at the same time.
but the new one is not been out as long as Steve's so I'm more inclined to believe steves
Die SMD Werkzeuge sind gut gemacht und mit Sicherheit wohl durchdacht. Aber das Kabel mit dem Poti könnte besser sein indem man das mit zwei Halbschalen einfasst um ein Griffstück zu erzeugen!
Aber mal ehrlich, das wäre das einzige was ich machen würde. Echt geiles Zeug 👌🏻👍🏻
the potentiometer is just a little something I rigged up so I can have voltage control when using the IMSG as a source. That is not a commercial product, just personal use. Although it should be and might soon! thanks!
If you know than you know
If you have any old DD1 laying around let me kno 😅
Well that solved it lol
whats with the inordinate amount of shade in the comments... some clout chasing going on over these products...
it isn't that bad. It is the internet though. The only people who don't have people like this in the comment section are people who haven't made it yet. You only experience this once you have put yourself on the map. Nobody says anything to those los.ers because nobody knows who they are. LOL
Steve another good point is that ppl use cheap batteries in them I remember you recommended that you run Duracell in them. Idk I just love music
People do ship these back for testing only for me to find their Dollar Tree sun-young-lee 9v still in it. A brand new name brand alkaline is the best for short term use but anyone who is serious about these tools and uses them a lot in their profession should have a couple rechargeable batts ready to go at all times. I have like 8 on the charger (2 4 spot bays) lol :D
What rechargeable batteries do you use? My SMD products havent worked well with rechargeables. It acts as if the batteries are dead or low. @meade916
@@strawsy69 try energizer or Duracell both of them have rechargeable batteries
@@strawsy69 we use and sell the Tenergy rechargeables with the 2 and 4 spot charging bay. wccaraudio.com/search.php?search_query=tenergy§ion=product
Parker due a retest.
So who started shit again
seen someone saying shit in "I Just Wanna Bang" facebook Audio Group about them possibly not being accurate against some other meter.
Steve, I take it you did this to show that the UA-cam morons that your products are quite accurate & most of mistakes are user errors.
All Parker did was prove that the BHG meter sucks
well, yeah, more or less. These two meters needs more testing, but i trust more the smd-one's at this point...
How did you conclude the SMD is the correct meter? I did not see an oscope in either Parker's video or this one to measure actual distortion. So, in the case of both dynos, we are relying on the device to measure clipping accurately. If one dyno registers 1% THD at an actual THD of 1%, and the other registers an actual 1% THD at 0.5% or 1.5% THD, the results will be skewed dramatically. We need to know the actual THD of the amp as measured by the oscope. Then, we need to compare that to both dynos when they claim 1% THD.