Dame handled that the way he should've. You can't trust the parent label to handle YOUR business and investments. Dame didn't want Jay to get taken from under his feet. Dame was "passionate" about the situation and I totally understand his position but he definitely could've approached them with some class.
His problem wasn't with them Jay-z allowed that secret meeting to be made without his acknowledgement his problem wasn't with Def Jam but mainly Jay-z but that wasn't his artist that was his partner. Jay-z was his own artist that was co owner of his own label and left with majority of it and sold it to Def Jam and changed the name to Roc Nation after Live Nation bought it. JAY-Z didn't like Dame treating him like a artist instead of his equal partner. Then another straw around that time Dame letting Cam Ron and Twista and all types of new faces join the Roc and Diplomats took over on Jay-z own label without Dame talking to Jay-z about anything concerning business when he was signing artist who wanted to just come to work with Jay-z anyways 😂. JAY-Z WAS like see ya🏃🏾💨✌🏽. He should had atleast left Dame with more then 1.5 or so that's weak. Atleast 50 -100 million.
At 1:52 Dame, "I bet you Jay don't know I wasn't invited." Well I bet you Jay knew about the meeting and knew about Dame not being invited. Jay didn't tell Dame about the meeting either. Dame was slowing being pushed out. The writing was on the wall Dame.
I could watch this shit everyday for some reason. It's funny to me that he punked a whole room of suits, but I can feel his emotional frustration through his voice knowing that he was getting screwed over. It sucks that the Roc isn't together anymore because music needs that label. They made deals that no record label besides No Limit or Bad Boy made in the industry.
True. Not what was said for the most part but how it was conveyed. I get the feeling this was not the second time this happened. I think they felt Jay was the talent disrespected Dame.
Damn right. Jay,Dame,Bleek,Beans, Peedi,Free,Young Gunz,Oschino & Sparks, Rell, I could go on. Remember how they all used to go on Hot 97 & drop crazy freestyles with Funk Flex? Da Roc was the truth back then, & Def-Jam was the most powerful label on the planet back then as well. How things have changed huh? Now when you think of Def-Jam, you think of Chrisette Michelle, Ne-Yo, & other r&b artists like you said. From the mid-90's 2 the early part of the 2000's was a great time 4 hip-hop no doubt
This explains alot about where Dame is today.. There's a saying that goes, "..the same people that you step on, on your way to the top will be the same people you'll see on your way back down". He probably has re-occurring nightmares about the way he behaved in this meeting..
No dame was trying to keep Jay from succeeding without him. Jay and everyone else in the industry at this point knew he was more problems than he was worth. If that is too hard to understand just imagine what Jay z actually needed Dame to do for him at this time.
I agree,the East Coast fell off & allowed the South 2 take over. That's why eventhough I still listen 2 Nas, Jay, Fab, Cass, etc. I mainly bang mixtapes, because much of the music is so watered down it's crazy. I bang artists like D-Block & I miss the 90's when Wu-Tang & A Tribe Called Quest was hot. Now, I hear this Souljah Boy & all this "ringtone rap", & it makes me sick to my stomach. I used to be a fan of the south, but that was when Outkast, Luda, Trina, etc. were consistantly making music
It really sucks to see Dame like this b/c I feel him completely. Being a business man myself with ethics like Dame, yeah sometimes you have to get in someones face or maybe jump down someones throat but if thats what it takes to make a company function properly so be it. What I was saying about feeling him was his loyalty to Rocafella. He was 1 million percent Rocafella or fuck you and Jay was setting up side deals and cutting him out, it was already too late, Jay puts out BP3 on Def Jam. Ouch
Because he wanted to micromanage things....he felt like "THEY" were out to get "THEM". Write up contracts, get it notarize and see you in court if either party breach and we can't handle it without lawyers. Throwing a temper-tantrum UNDERMINED any legit standing he had, and lack of respect went out the window.
I understand what he's saying.. and I understand that that energy is a kind of sadness.. he just came from his friends wake.. I've felt that kind of energy.. and it just comes out .. just like that.
Exactly...this is how it's done in the Corporate world...Military, email and face to face when the time comes. Concern: You're not checking your "Business" email, but you're upset about business?!?
Jay was the mind and face of Roc a fella! Look at the facts! Jay was very business minded that made Dame look as if he was running the label. This is crazy! This shows you that Dash has no professionalism. You never come to a meeting as the " ANGRY BLACK MAN"! Always maintain your cool!
That's DAME BOGGIE DASH! allright now! tell em DAME! i like when the cats acts gangster,i luv it i luvit! i luv it! HARLEM GANGSTER IN THE HOUSE! ya dig! it is what it is! ya heard me! ya better believe it! MESSAGE!
Dame Dash is the truth In my opinion he was the real brains behind Rocafella. Jay was a great artist and marketable but Dame found Rocawear, movies and different avenues. LA Reid needs to hire him as president of Def Jam. RIP Shakir Stewart
"INSIDE THE LIFE AND MIND OF JIM JONES" was produced by DAME DASH and directed by "JAY KYLE MANZAY" i think he wrote it too,THATS MY friend he was in movie "AMERICAN GANGSTER" with me,HE played FRANK LUCAS BROTHER DEXTER from BKLYN which hes from BKLYN,I enjoyed the play JAY KYLE alledged he wanted to take the play on the road,JAY KYLE DIRECTED A play called "ACTORS RAP" it was seen at A college in MANHATTAN VANESSA SIMMONS was in the play,btw i'm a dancer aka MS.106&park the original wit FREE.
That's DAME BOGGIE DOWN DASH,Yessir! I luv some DAME DASH,I luv JAY Z too,I went to see KEVIN HART'S comedy "I'm a GROWN LITTLE MAN" now on DVD,and youtube,DAME AND I WERE the only Celebs in the Building,The camera man filming the comedy show reconized me,He told me the show was going to be on TV then go to DVD,Kevin Hart Then said DAME DASH was his boy and he invited him to the show,Kevin HArt said They support each other,My birthname is Erica,Ms.106&park is a name given to me by KEVIN LOGAN.
@BLACKFONZIRELLI HOw do you like "CHOKE NO JOKES" rappin? that's him rappin in this clip,do you think you can sign him? or do you need to hear more? BTW did you cop his dvd "CODE BLUE?
"WHAT MORE CAN I SAY" JAY-Z don't play,It's the Brooklyn Street way,OK! "BASELINE RECORDING STUDIO" JUST BLAZE,YES! I'm wearing S.CARTER on my feet,With the black cap and black T,Oh yes! and it was FREE!
i got to give dame his credit for standing for his company, that man was hyped for a good reason. jay was the face of rocafella then dame. but i see how people is saying how jay left dame but to say how jay left dame broke, i don't see it.
I can see why Jay separated from Dame. This dude Dame is too much of a loud mouth that has a knack for alienating everyone else. There is no place in business for a character like that.
Jay offered to leave the ROC & sign his stake over to Dame in return for the Reasonable Doubt masters, Dame accepted then reneged on the deal. After that Dame,Biggs,& Jay all agreed to sell to Def Jam and Def Jam gave Jay control when he became president. In fact Def Jam offered Jay that same position before & he turned it down on behalf of Dame. People kill me acting like it's all Jay's fault, but they dont know the whole story, especially stuff like Dame making Cam ROC VP while Jay was on vaca
I follow DAME DASH and that's why i wanted to be in his camera mans movie "CODE BLUE" i saw his previous stuff and DAME DASH was not reachable at the time i was lookin for him,DAME DASH PRODUCED MOVIE "SHADOW BOXER" with CUBA GOODING JR. it was directed by LEE DANIELS,LEE DANIELS directed movie "PRECIOUS" with MONIQUE plus he did other projects,EVERY TIME i see CUBA GOODING JR. in a movie,i think about his lines "SHOW ME THE MONEY! Which CUBA GOODING JR.ONE an AWARD for that FILM,MS.106 MESSAGE!
I attended a stand up comedy show called I'M A GROWN LITTLE MAN" BY KEVIN HART,ITS NOW ON DVD DAME DASH WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE i knew,he was alone,KEVIN HART said that was his BOY,He invited DAME to the show,DAME DASH sat behind me,Then he moved his seat across from me,After the show was finished DAME DASH was surrounded by white chicks in the lobby& they were flirting with him,There was no RACHEL ROY there,next we attended a play called "INSIDE THE LIFE&MIND OF JIM JONES"
DAMON FLIPPED ON DEF JAM on the HARD KNOCK LIFE TOUR for sending DEF JAM Jackets to ROCA FELLA Artist , check out the HBO filming of the HARD KNOCK LIFE TOUR, you need some like DAMON that has your best interest at heart
@SedatedWanderer It truly was!!!! He let them have it! But you can tell he was so sincere and was going through something... I kinda fill bad for laughing but he does have a valid point & they knew he was right!
@lafucil Exactly right. He over reacted and his actions led to his own downfall. As you said he should have observed and do what needed to be done at a later date.
BUT on the real for real "CHOKE NO JOKE" MADE me laugh,he tried real hard not to film and but me in his movie,but he prefers to film DAME DASh ACTINg ILL,i know i pased him several times in the BET STUDIo,i was there for 7 months straight,and everybody on film except me,THANK you choke,and the characters are very funny in the clip of DAMES reality show,and the way choke gets upset is really funny,i cant be in his movie,i guess i have to break fool too,MOST of the time i was edited out.
"CHOKE NO JOKE" didnt use me in his movie "CODE BLUE" and i been in his presence 7 months down at BET,He does the editing,he was the producer for "RAP CITY" he's a producer/editor/director, i use to dance on BET 106&Park They never let me speak so i''m speaking now CO LOW CO snatched the mic out my hand down at BET,Alisha allen and TERENCE CLAYTON blocked me from comin to the show,Terence clayton put his hands in my face,and him bighead and alisha allen didnt allow me see JADAKISS I HAD TICKET2.
Dame handled that the way he should've. You can't trust the parent label to handle YOUR business and investments. Dame didn't want Jay to get taken from under his feet. Dame was "passionate" about the situation and I totally understand his position but he definitely could've approached them with some class.
His problem wasn't with them Jay-z allowed that secret meeting to be made without his acknowledgement his problem wasn't with Def Jam but mainly Jay-z but that wasn't his artist that was his partner. Jay-z was his own artist that was co owner of his own label and left with majority of it and sold it to Def Jam and changed the name to Roc Nation after Live Nation bought it. JAY-Z didn't like Dame treating him like a artist instead of his equal partner. Then another straw around that time Dame letting Cam Ron and Twista and all types of new faces join the Roc and Diplomats took over on Jay-z own label without Dame talking to Jay-z about anything concerning business when he was signing artist who wanted to just come to work with Jay-z anyways 😂. JAY-Z WAS like see ya🏃🏾💨✌🏽. He should had atleast left Dame with more then 1.5 or so that's weak. Atleast 50 -100 million.
At 1:52 Dame, "I bet you Jay don't know I wasn't invited." Well I bet you Jay knew about the meeting and knew about Dame not being invited. Jay didn't tell Dame about the meeting either. Dame was slowing being pushed out. The writing was on the wall Dame.
Facts!!!!!
Guy in Dolphins jersey took like 500 sips out of his Water bottle lol he was nervous!
😂😂😂😂😂 😊
@JB1263 My shit is "WHAT THE FUCK YOU LAUGHIN' AT" Dame sounded like he was about to jump over that table hahaha
Sad thing is Jay called that meeting thats why Dame didnt know. Jay didnt want him to.
That meeting was too level for Jay to have called. Any meeting Jay called would have had Lyor and Kevin Liles involved.
Dame is Rocafella period!!! gotta respect Dame!!!
As Jay said, that marketing plan was me!!
This is why Dame is mad as hell here, the heart of the whole thing was about to skate tf outta there
I could watch this shit everyday for some reason. It's funny to me that he punked a whole room of suits, but I can feel his emotional frustration through his voice knowing that he was getting screwed over. It sucks that the Roc isn't together anymore because music needs that label. They made deals that no record label besides No Limit or Bad Boy made in the industry.
I don't see the problem with his response. People always talk crap about Dame. He was absolutely right.
He may have been right but, the delivery was unprofessional.
There's a way to relay a message appropriately w/o yelling & parading around.
True. Not what was said for the most part but how it was conveyed. I get the feeling this was not the second time this happened. I think they felt Jay was the talent disrespected Dame.
Damn right. Jay,Dame,Bleek,Beans, Peedi,Free,Young Gunz,Oschino & Sparks, Rell, I could go on. Remember how they all used to go on Hot 97 & drop crazy freestyles with Funk Flex? Da Roc was the truth back then, & Def-Jam was the most powerful label on the planet back then as well. How things have changed huh? Now when you think of Def-Jam, you think of Chrisette Michelle, Ne-Yo, & other r&b artists like you said. From the mid-90's 2 the early part of the 2000's was a great time 4 hip-hop no doubt
classic material,this footage is too raw for reality tv, back then and now.
This explains alot about where Dame is today.. There's a saying that goes, "..the same people that you step on, on your way to the top will be the same people you'll see on your way back down". He probably has re-occurring nightmares about the way he behaved in this meeting..
When people starts planing behind yourback, you are done.
This is why it was imperative for the music industry to seperate Dame from Jay Z. Dame is TOO REAL.
No dame was trying to keep Jay from succeeding without him. Jay and everyone else in the industry at this point knew he was more problems than he was worth. If that is too hard to understand just imagine what Jay z actually needed Dame to do for him at this time.
Feel sorry for the guy, he had a beautiful wife too Rachel Roy, lost her too.
poor guy.
LMAOO THIS MAN IS HEATED!!
"HUH JOHN???"... Ha....
I agree,the East Coast fell off & allowed the South 2 take over. That's why eventhough I still listen 2 Nas, Jay, Fab, Cass, etc. I mainly bang mixtapes, because much of the music is so watered down it's crazy. I bang artists like D-Block & I miss the 90's when Wu-Tang & A Tribe Called Quest was hot. Now, I hear this Souljah Boy & all this "ringtone rap", & it makes me sick to my stomach. I used to be a fan of the south, but that was when Outkast, Luda, Trina, etc. were consistantly making music
dame snappin early in the morning lol
It really sucks to see Dame like this b/c I feel him completely. Being a business man myself with ethics like Dame, yeah sometimes you have to get in someones face or maybe jump down someones throat but if thats what it takes to make a company function properly so be it. What I was saying about feeling him was his loyalty to Rocafella. He was 1 million percent Rocafella or fuck you and Jay was setting up side deals and cutting him out, it was already too late, Jay puts out BP3 on Def Jam. Ouch
haha the white dude at 2:20 still got some dap.
"Jays not your artist...He's down with Rockefeller" lmao
lmao Dame was snappin...
Because he wanted to micromanage things....he felt like "THEY" were out to get "THEM". Write up contracts, get it notarize and see you in court if either party breach and we can't handle it without lawyers. Throwing a temper-tantrum UNDERMINED any legit standing he had, and lack of respect went out the window.
I understand what he's saying.. and I understand
that that energy is a kind of sadness.. he just came from his friends wake.. I've felt that kind of energy.. and it just comes out .. just like that.
Exactly...this is how it's done in the Corporate world...Military, email and face to face when the time comes. Concern: You're not checking your "Business" email, but you're upset about business?!?
true i see y he's pissed it was underhanded everyone was stuck like uh uh
"YOU SHOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP ANYWAY!" lol I love that part.
Hahahaha Dame was buggin out! He told dude "You should shut the fuck up anyway" hahaha
Dame you real man.You are a 100% right they should have followed protocol.
Dame the Chief of business. Grand Rising God
that guy drinking water from an empty bottle is SCARED.
Jay was the mind and face of Roc a fella! Look at the facts! Jay was very business minded that made Dame look as if he was running the label.
This is crazy! This shows you that Dash has no professionalism. You never come to a meeting as the " ANGRY BLACK MAN"! Always maintain your cool!
XD the assistant blocks the camera! oh, god! that is so wack!
Everything you just wrote is the TRUTH!!!!! Glad somebody in this thread still uses there brain.
Big said it best "more money, more problems"
Usually when someone says, “ain’t none of ya’ll better than me,” they feel like they really are less than.
Now he is selling kiddie art LOL!
I remember this
DEF JAM HAHAH
That's DAME BOGGIE DASH! allright now! tell em DAME! i like when the cats acts gangster,i luv it i luvit! i luv it! HARLEM GANGSTER IN THE HOUSE! ya dig! it is what it is! ya heard me! ya better believe it! MESSAGE!
Dame Dash is the truth In my opinion he was the real brains behind Rocafella. Jay was a great artist and marketable but Dame found Rocawear, movies and different avenues. LA Reid needs to hire him as president of Def Jam.
RIP Shakir Stewart
thats my boy right there dogg !!!!
Dame that's how u handle you're business my dude!
Looks like this was the moment he realized he lost the tug of war with Jay-Z's career.
I feel you on that one
@Jay Rockson LMFAO "crash n burn"
lol lol lol @ the outro track
jay hasn't been in the office in 2 years enough said right there
Dame went hard but thats the biz in music!!
"INSIDE THE LIFE AND MIND OF JIM JONES" was produced by DAME DASH and directed by "JAY KYLE MANZAY" i think he wrote it too,THATS MY friend he was in movie "AMERICAN GANGSTER" with me,HE played FRANK LUCAS BROTHER DEXTER from BKLYN which hes from BKLYN,I enjoyed the play JAY KYLE alledged he wanted to take the play on the road,JAY KYLE DIRECTED A play called "ACTORS RAP" it was seen at A college in MANHATTAN VANESSA SIMMONS was in the play,btw i'm a dancer aka MS.106&park the original wit FREE.
Well put!
J called the meeting!! Lol
does anyone know what the sample of the song towards the end of the video is?
that is true. Something is missing... I just want to hear GOOD rap no matter where its from...
Classssssiccaalll!!! i swear i love this! lol
That's DAME BOGGIE DOWN DASH,Yessir! I luv some DAME DASH,I luv JAY Z too,I went to see KEVIN HART'S comedy "I'm a GROWN LITTLE MAN" now on DVD,and youtube,DAME AND I WERE the only Celebs in the Building,The camera man filming the comedy show reconized me,He told me the show was going to be on TV then go to DVD,Kevin Hart Then said DAME DASH was his boy and he invited him to the show,Kevin HArt said They support each other,My birthname is Erica,Ms.106&park is a name given to me by KEVIN LOGAN.
daaamn dame was on fire
They did Dame dirty at Def Jam they never wanted to give him credit for the empire he built
The loudest one is usually the weakest one "none of yall better than me!" lol now look at him
I bet he does know you weren't invited! lol
lol i wish someone would talk to me like that
whats the song at the end?
Ppl will play u if u let them i like the way dame handle his self in the music biz
@BLACKFONZIRELLI HOw do you like "CHOKE NO JOKES" rappin? that's him rappin in this clip,do you think you can sign him? or do you need to hear more? BTW did you cop his dvd "CODE BLUE?
"WHAT MORE CAN I SAY" JAY-Z don't play,It's the Brooklyn Street way,OK! "BASELINE RECORDING STUDIO" JUST BLAZE,YES! I'm wearing S.CARTER on my feet,With the black cap and black T,Oh yes! and it was FREE!
@extrahustle the money jay made from def jam made dame record labe look like it just started lol
YA heard ME! ya better believe it! MESSAGE!
This is how the industry gets you...
the 10 people that disliked this were at that meeting...
I think DAME is RIGHT,"CHOKE NO JOKE" is a CHARACTER that filmed it ALL.
Let's call this video "How to crash and burn in style".
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
i got to give dame his credit for standing for his company, that man was hyped for a good reason. jay was the face of rocafella then dame. but i see how people is saying how jay left dame but to say how jay left dame broke, i don't see it.
I can see why Jay separated from Dame. This dude Dame is too much of a loud mouth that has a knack for alienating everyone else. There is no place in business for a character like that.
a freaking minstrel show!
IT'S THE BLUEPRINT! AND IT'S STRICTLY BUSINESS.
When keeping it real goes wrong
I like Dame though, Theres no way Jay gets where he is without Dame, cuz Dame was the strength and Jigga was the Lyricist
Choke no Joke are you serious? C'Mon Son!
Jay offered to leave the ROC & sign his stake over to Dame in return for the Reasonable Doubt masters, Dame accepted then reneged on the deal. After that Dame,Biggs,& Jay all agreed to sell to Def Jam and Def Jam gave Jay control when he became president. In fact Def Jam offered Jay that same position before & he turned it down on behalf of Dame. People kill me acting like it's all Jay's fault, but they dont know the whole story, especially stuff like Dame making Cam ROC VP while Jay was on vaca
@1:32 - Atleast you know he was'nt beefing with his own artist....
lol i see why JAY-Z wanted to distance himself from dame
with this, Dame saw the writing on the Wall what Jay-Z was doing, he sound like Joslyn from Love & Hip Hop Atlanta.
he was scared jay z would leave him, and he did.
I follow DAME DASH and that's why i wanted to be in his camera mans movie "CODE BLUE" i saw his previous stuff and DAME DASH was not reachable at the time i was lookin for him,DAME DASH PRODUCED MOVIE "SHADOW BOXER" with CUBA GOODING JR. it was directed by LEE DANIELS,LEE DANIELS directed movie "PRECIOUS" with MONIQUE plus he did other projects,EVERY TIME i see CUBA GOODING JR. in a movie,i think about his lines "SHOW ME THE MONEY! Which CUBA GOODING JR.ONE an AWARD for that FILM,MS.106 MESSAGE!
I attended a stand up comedy show called I'M A GROWN LITTLE MAN" BY KEVIN HART,ITS NOW ON DVD DAME DASH WAS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE i knew,he was alone,KEVIN HART said that was his BOY,He invited DAME to the show,DAME DASH sat behind me,Then he moved his seat across from me,After the show was finished DAME DASH was surrounded by white chicks in the lobby& they were flirting with him,There was no RACHEL ROY there,next we attended a play called "INSIDE THE LIFE&MIND OF JIM JONES"
jay was with them the whole time dame had no idea lol
He knows it over.
DAMON FLIPPED ON DEF JAM on the HARD KNOCK LIFE TOUR for sending DEF JAM Jackets to ROCA FELLA Artist , check out the HBO filming of the HARD KNOCK LIFE TOUR, you need some like DAMON that has your best interest at heart
@SedatedWanderer It truly was!!!! He let them have it! But you can tell he was so sincere and was going through something... I kinda fill bad for laughing but he does have a valid point & they knew he was right!
all i know is i couldnt sit there and let dash yell at me like that i would.. walk out
@lafucil Exactly right. He over reacted and his actions led to his own downfall. As you said he should have observed and do what needed to be done at a later date.
SNAKES IN THE GRASS
BUT on the real for real "CHOKE NO JOKE" MADE me laugh,he tried real hard not to film and but me in his movie,but he prefers to film DAME DASh ACTINg ILL,i know i pased him several times in the BET STUDIo,i was there for 7 months straight,and everybody on film except me,THANK you choke,and the characters are very funny in the clip of DAMES reality show,and the way choke gets upset is really funny,i cant be in his movie,i guess i have to break fool too,MOST of the time i was edited out.
remember guys..Dame just came from a Funeral
DAMN... I mean DAME!!!!!!!!!!
i luv his passion
"CHOKE NO JOKE" didnt use me in his movie "CODE BLUE" and i been in his presence 7 months down at BET,He does the editing,he was the producer for "RAP CITY" he's a producer/editor/director, i use to dance on BET 106&Park They never let me speak so i''m speaking now CO LOW CO snatched the mic out my hand down at BET,Alisha allen and TERENCE CLAYTON blocked me from comin to the show,Terence clayton put his hands in my face,and him bighead and alisha allen didnt allow me see JADAKISS I HAD TICKET2.
Ha "shut da fuck up!" i wouldve took out a gun
Get'em!