Brilliant. Most beautifully expressed. Thank you! (I think there is no evidence that Arnold wrote it when he visited Dover (1851) on his way to France for his honeymoon. He might have imagined it then, but he perhaps rewrote or changed, improved it until he got it published in 1867)
Thank you! The precise date of composition of "Dover Beach" is a matter of considerable debate. One of the (to my mind) more persuasive arguments for the 1851-2 date is made by S. O. A. Ullmann, in "Dating through Calligraphy: The Example of 'Dover Beach'" (Studies in Bibliography Vol. 26 [1973], pp. 19-36). Ullmann factors in an analysis of the handwriting of the manuscript, along with other circumstantial references. Anyone with an institutional log-in can access the article on JSTOR (www.jstor.org/stable/40371569#metadata_info_tab_contents), and I believe those without a log-in can view a certain number of articles free per month. If it was not actually written while Arnold was in Dover, the likeliest scenario is that it was "recollected in tranquillity" (as Wordsworth puts it) fairly shortly afterwards. But you are right; the dating of "Dover Beach" is more a matter of balancing probabilities than of hard and fast evidence. I tend to think the 1851-2 date is correct, but I could perhaps have indicated in the video that this is a likelihood, not a certainty - and, of course, he probably did work on it over the years between the original draft and the final publication in 1867. Thanks again for the feedback!
Ha! Yes, Arnold's a bit of a misery, isn't he? But then, so many poets are. I try to get students engaged with all those complicated feelings without getting bogged down with them!🙂
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Hello kind sir I wanted to thank you for your efforts, really lovely work. I am an English major student from Saudi Arabia and now studying poetry. Your video have helped me a lot , I appreciate that and thank you again ❤️.
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Thank you for the feedback! Yes, I feel that visualizing the imagery is an important part of poetry appreciation. The words should create pictures in our head. It's a kind of relationship between us and the poem; we have to do our bit and visualize it, otherwise it's just dead words on the page!
@@anosensei Yes, and I really have to work on that! But the more effort and attention I put into the better I get. By the way, at 14:35 you said Socrates but meant Sophocles I think :)
@@futurechris2283 UA-cam only allows limited editing of a video once it's been uploaded, but I think I've managed to fudge it enough that the blip is no longer noticeable. Thank you for pointing it out!
Appreciate your very enlightening analysis of this piece. Question: why does Arnold vary the line lengths instead of keeping to uniform foot count? Thank you!
Essentially, poetic technique is the way the poet conveys the mood, or feel, of the poem. By varying the line lengths, Arnold gives himself just that extra bit of flexibility to create those mood changes - the simplicity of the opening line, the balance of the second line, the slight complication of the next three lines, giving a sense of the poet's gaze shifting focus from one aspect of the scent to another, leading to the balance of the sixth line. And so on. In this respect, Arnold anticipates a major feature of a lot of modern poetry.
The answer is already there! Watch the video carefully and reread the poem. There is only one short section of the poem that refers to classical times. I'm sure you can find it. And where the poet uses the word "now", well, that's where he talks about what's going on in Victorian times!
I should perhaps add that "now" is contrasted with "once", but the period referred to by "once" is not strictly classical times. It refers mainly, I think, to medieval and perhaps early modern belief in Christianity, though that isn't made specific. That raises the question, of course, of what is going on in Arnold's time that has changed people's attitude towards faith...
I was looking for an explanation just like this. really well done, thanks.
Thank you & you're welcome! This is one of my personal favourites; the visuals took me a while, but it was worth it!
The mastery of the editing deserves an award thank you sooo much I appreciate it
Thank you! I started making videos after I retired. I just love it as a different way of teaching!
Brilliant. Most beautifully expressed. Thank you! (I think there is no evidence that Arnold wrote it when he visited Dover (1851) on his way to France for his honeymoon. He might have imagined it then, but he perhaps rewrote or changed, improved it until he got it published in 1867)
Thank you! The precise date of composition of "Dover Beach" is a matter of considerable debate. One of the (to my mind) more persuasive arguments for the 1851-2 date is made by S. O. A. Ullmann, in "Dating through Calligraphy: The Example of 'Dover Beach'" (Studies in Bibliography Vol. 26 [1973], pp. 19-36). Ullmann factors in an analysis of the handwriting of the manuscript, along with other circumstantial references.
Anyone with an institutional log-in can access the article on JSTOR (www.jstor.org/stable/40371569#metadata_info_tab_contents), and I believe those without a log-in can view a certain number of articles free per month.
If it was not actually written while Arnold was in Dover, the likeliest scenario is that it was "recollected in tranquillity" (as Wordsworth puts it) fairly shortly afterwards.
But you are right; the dating of "Dover Beach" is more a matter of balancing probabilities than of hard and fast evidence. I tend to think the 1851-2 date is correct, but I could perhaps have indicated in the video that this is a likelihood, not a certainty - and, of course, he probably did work on it over the years between the original draft and the final publication in 1867.
Thanks again for the feedback!
Hello Ano Sensei, I wonder if you have an email address (I could not find one). A friend would like to write to you about some teaching work.
So much effort put into this. Thank you!
Thank you for the feedback. It was a labour of love!
Excellent work, I must say; your manner of explanation is inspired. And though the poem may not be, the spoilers were fun.
Ha! Yes, Arnold's a bit of a misery, isn't he? But then, so many poets are. I try to get students engaged with all those complicated feelings without getting bogged down with them!🙂
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🙂really nice,
thanks for sharing🙂
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Hello kind sir I wanted to thank you for your efforts, really lovely work. I am an English major student from Saudi Arabia and now studying poetry. Your video have helped me a lot , I appreciate that and thank you again ❤️.
Thank you for your feedback. I have made many more poetry videos, which you can find here: ua-cam.com/video/OwI6PbYTLTM/v-deo.html. Please share these videos with others and help the channel to grow. I hope poetry will be your treasure all through your life.
@@anosensei absolutely!! It would be my pleasure
@@ft9266 Thank you!
Thanks for this! Really helped me in my English Composition course.
Thanks for the feedback!I'm glad you found it useful.
Extraordinary effort sir thanks alot
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you very much for the amazing analysis
You are welcome!
Thanks!!! Really helpful how you showed the imagery of how you see it
Thank you for the feedback! Yes, I feel that visualizing the imagery is an important part of poetry appreciation. The words should create pictures in our head. It's a kind of relationship between us and the poem; we have to do our bit and visualize it, otherwise it's just dead words on the page!
@@anosensei Yes, and I really have to work on that! But the more effort and attention I put into the better I get.
By the way, at 14:35 you said Socrates but meant Sophocles I think :)
@@futurechris2283 Oh, goodness! You're right!
@@futurechris2283 UA-cam only allows limited editing of a video once it's been uploaded, but I think I've managed to fudge it enough that the blip is no longer noticeable. Thank you for pointing it out!
@@anosensei no problem, you’re welcome! Thanks for making and sharing this video and your knowledge!
Thank you.
You are welcome!
Very informative and quite useful...Thanks for uploading this...
You're welcome. I'm glad you found it useful!
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Please keep it up and make more videos..It will help many students..
@@mashalkhan9938 Thank you! I will. I am busy with other things for a while, but expect more videos in a few weeks' time!
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Thanks... We shall wait...
Appreciate your very enlightening analysis of this piece. Question: why does Arnold vary the line lengths instead of keeping to uniform foot count? Thank you!
Essentially, poetic technique is the way the poet conveys the mood, or feel, of the poem. By varying the line lengths, Arnold gives himself just that extra bit of flexibility to create those mood changes - the simplicity of the opening line, the balance of the second line, the slight complication of the next three lines, giving a sense of the poet's gaze shifting focus from one aspect of the scent to another, leading to the balance of the sixth line. And so on.
In this respect, Arnold anticipates a major feature of a lot of modern poetry.
Good evening professor!!
My professor asked us to find what is classical and what is victorian in this poem.Could you please help me with that?
The answer is already there! Watch the video carefully and reread the poem. There is only one short section of the poem that refers to classical times. I'm sure you can find it. And where the poet uses the word "now", well, that's where he talks about what's going on in Victorian times!
I should perhaps add that "now" is contrasted with "once", but the period referred to by "once" is not strictly classical times. It refers mainly, I think, to medieval and perhaps early modern belief in Christianity, though that isn't made specific.
That raises the question, of course, of what is going on in Arnold's time that has changed people's attitude towards faith...
Excellent performance
Thank you!
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