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Have you ever thought about doing a “behind the scenes” on what goes into a review ? I’m not sure people realize that you spend weeks doing one (from what I hear). 😊 Everything from lining up the gear from manufacturers, to testing/listening, to topic notes/script, to filming, to editing, to posting, replying to comments, and final tracking. BTW, someone turned me on to Anyma. I’m digging it.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I would like to see that too. Specially when you output a lot of content, people don't understand how you do that and still give each item the time it deserves
I would love that video too, all of the work you guys do should be recognized. With that being said, I’m quite sure such video would not be “worth it” as it’s probably not something that cand bring in the views…
I really don’t have any interest in this product, but your reviews are phenomenal and I look forward to them every week. Thank you and Kristi for what y’all do for the community!
That's why I am using my Audiolab 8300a together with a DAC that offers tone control via parametric EQ ( the RME ADI 2 DAC). Tone control should be in the chain somewhere.
@@rw80 fair comment, though I've never felt the need for them myself , I think perhaps I've just learned to live with dull sounding recordings, each to their own and differing views on things is what makes life interesting 🤔🤓
I got the 6000A because of your reviews and enjoy it. The 7000A looks sweet especially with the HDMI and MQA capabilities. Very very tempting for sure.
I gotta say: your commentary on 2 channel listening with a receiver was ALTOGETHER SPOT ON!!! I couldn't have said it any better! I have been enjoying 2 channel and multichannel music listening with my Yamaha receiver for almost 2 years, and the sound quality is very good, easily rivaling separate 2 channel setups. So I was pleasantly surprised to hear you guys telling the absolute TRUTH about this! Thank you so much!
Comparing with what though? Can an AVR compete with a Technics R1000? A Pass Labs? Is it even as good as the Audiolab 9000A? Good enough? Perhaps. but some chase every last bit of quality, and if an AVR is THAT good, what excuse does any stereo amp have to not be as good? Would you be driving Focal Diablo Utopias with a Denon AVC-X4700h? Heck, with the Anthem recently tested? Or would you pair it with something better? (Granted, room EQ is useful and might make more of a difference than a marginally better amp.)
@@kadajawi6567 I can only speak from experience. When I first heard my benchmark speakers (B&W 702 S2), they were paired with a Pioneer VSX LX504 AVR that sounded wonderful! It was $999. When I heard that pairing, I was convinced that I didn't need to get a separates system. A good AVR was all I needed. Especially since I love home theater just about as much as music, it works for me. I would be willing to bet you couldn't distinguish an AVR from a 2 channel system in a thorough blind test.
@@kadajawi6567 Also, I've been to the shows. I've listened to pricey separate setups. And then I come home and listen to my rig, and so far, I don't feel like I've missed a beat. People get so caught up in the components, and believe that you have to spend crazy amounts of money to get good sound, when that really isn't the case. My entire system costs under $2500, and everyone that has heard it has said only good things. So I can only speak from my personal experience.
@@Larwiz Depends on the amps, but I've heard the difference between say the Powernode and 6000A or between an Icepower and a Purifi based amp. In either case I thought the first option was wonderful, until I heard what the speakers were actually capable of.
@@kadajawi6567 Right. See in this field, there's always good, better, and best. And many of us are chasing the best, while we're already at good or better. My argument is that an AVR is fully capable of producing very good sound. Sound that could seriously contend with some Integrated or even separate systems. When I play cds through my Blu-ray player and receiver, you can't tell me that it isn't detailed and beautiful. I think it would challenge many CD transport/dac/separate systems. At the very least, it wouldn't be embarrassed by any of them.
I’m def a 2 channel hifi purist but would never besmirch a product for having hdmi. I’m far more interested in I2S connection and onboard dac performance of the integrated. Also I think ARC can be highly useful for 2 channel music especially if you have room modes and integration of subs. This seems like a fantastic option for the $.
ARC won't help you with room modes and a sub. It's just about getting digital audio to the amp. Manufacturers can do room correction without ARC, and they can not do room correction with ARC. Same with a dedicated sub output. However, manufacturers who offer ARC / eARC are probably more likely to offer room correction and a sub output, as they are less purist focused (or bone headed).
A resounding YES! It was worth it! I have been in a state of irresolution and hesitancy about which Audiolab to pull the trigger on. I feel good about what to do now. Thanks for another fun review, Andrew and Kristi.
Hello from London U.K., what a very nicely considered video. I really liked the idea of hooking up the MiniDSP. Would you consider making a video short on how you did that with the 7000a? Thank you Mike
Just got a 7000a with a 7000CDT. Preparing to order 7000Play. Just bought a Schiit Loki Max after owning a Loki + and Lokius. The plan is to either use the inputs on the amp, go Pre-Out to the Schiit Max then back to one of the analog Line Ins. Forgot to mention these are all EQs by Schiit. I’ve done the preout to main in before on a Cambridge ax61
As I’ve said before regarding Audiolab, due to its versatile pre/integrated/power options, a Schiit Loki or Lokius can easily be inserted in the signal path and voila - tone controls!
Great review! On the question of 7000A vs POWERNODE, I would say it comes down to use-case. I have an A14MKII that on paper is quite similar to the 7000A (minus the wonderful, wonderful inclusion of HDMI on the Audiolab) and I use it for a dedicated 2-channel listening zone. I have two POWERNODEs, one in a bedroom and the other driving my Patio setup. For a Zone 2-3 type of setup, the POWERNODE cannot be beat in terms of performance/value, especially with BluOS. For home theatre, get an AVR. However, for a dedicated 2-channel listening space, a dedicated integrated like the Audiolab 7000A (or separates) will always reign supreme.
Interesting… would you consider replacing Powernode with the 7000? I currently have the PowerNode with 6 ohms speakers and I’m not sure they sound the best with it
Definitely. Especially for dedicated 2-channel listening. I have a large room, and the Powernode often needed to be near max volume to drive a pair of LS50 Metas sufficiently for my listening position. I moved the Powernode to the patio where I can't listen too loudly without disrupting the neighbors anyway. :)
Audiolab has a very intriguing aspect to its design and performance and features. I would have more readily compared this unit to the Rotel A14MkII or similar than any NAD or Yamaha product - otherwise, great review.
I have just ordered an Audiolab 7000a. I already own a Schiit Lokius 6-band equalizer. I noticed the 7000a had a pre out and was going to run from the 7000a out and into the Lokius then back into an analog RCA port on the amp. You referred to 3 modes the amp could do. Other than run coax out the pre and back in is there anything else I need to do? I have found the Schiit Lokius to be a life saver and should receive it this week. I am also using Dacmagic 200, a Mac Mini and Sonus Faber speakers.I see you're recording today so I joined the fandom. If you can please give me a thumbs up or down, I think it will be up. I run via USB audio from my Mini to the Dacmagic. Run all devices into the dac, then to the Lokius then back to the amp.
I just snagged an Outlaw 2220 monoblock to power a BW HTM71 S3 center. I have 702 S2 Signatures. It’s great! Have you guys thought to bring Outlaw into the fold and maybe do a Rogue Amp series for the smaller no name brands that are outside the big 7? Thanks for great videos!
I also bought the 7000a and tested it extensively with the KEF R5. It's certainly a nice amplifier, but I didn't find any difference to the Denon X3800h in terms of sound; the Audiolab shouldn't be vastly superior to the Denon in Stereo mode?
As someone who listens to music of all genres, I am always curious about the sound stage and imaging of the different amp so I can make a choice this summer. This is really not mentioned when discussing amps with internal DACs. Some of the other choices you mentioned are of my list.
Another in depth review of a very good product. I personally had an Audiolab 8300 integrated and was pleased with its performance for price. I’ve since sold it for a vintage Luxman 505u and what a huge difference in sonic quality. I was hoping that you could get the new version of my Luxman and compare it to the McIntosh MA-5300 at around the same price($6500). Thanks again for another informative video. Please keep them coming!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews ok, thanks Andrew. I can’t say that I blame you for not reviewing their products if they need any control at all. Your channel is always honest and that’s why I’ll continue to watch and look forward to your next review!👍
Serious question here for Andrew, as someone who hasn't "ARC"ed his setup yet: You mention controlling volume through Apple TV's remote, but what does that connection look like? Is the Audiolab connected to the Apple TV via HDMI, or is it both AudioLab and AppleTV connected to TV via two separate HDMI cables? I've watched your channel for years now, and you always talk about the convenience of ARC and eARC. I'd love to know more about the setup with these technologies, and how components are "networked", as that can really drive some buying decisions. Thanks for the great content as always.
Also, the pre/pwr mode may work with the MiniDSP 2x4 but I'm concerned about the sequential ADC+DAC conversions. Wouldn't this affect the sound quality? The 2x4 is known to have a mediocre DAC... I have a feeling it would be better to use the MiniDSP only to low pass and EQ the subwoofers using the Audiolab's preout (the main speakers playing the untouched full range signal). Better yet, pretty sure you would get a better sound with a MiniDSP Flex running has the preamp into the Audiolab has a power amplifier + subwoofers. 😋
It is the lack of tone controls that have made me continue to buy Rotel gear over the Audiolab. I would love to set-up the 7000 with some Q Acoustics, but my range of music is very eclectic, including a lot of older music. Without tone controls, you sometimes find yourself stopping a track as you cannot compensate for an older recording...even with remasters considered. The Rotel and Audiolab both give excellent sound for the money. I recently replaced my old Rotel 10 series amp with the Tribute A11, it is for our smallish living room, and is excellent; even without the DAC, the Tidal stream is awesome as the Bluetooth is great. The Audiolab would have been great for the man-cave, but without the tone controls, I think I will stay with Rotel.
This AudioLab has the prerequisite "pre out/main-in" loop. One may insert a Schitt 6 band EQ or a digital DSP in there. It's outstanding flexibility. 🔈🔉🔊
Yes, it was worth it and as I am an A/V nut on both stereo and 11.2 channel I will lean back and enjoy my 8015 and the recent upgrades on the programing I got.
Nice review as always. You mentioned not being able to connect a powered sub, but on the 6k you can go from 6k pre out to sub rca in, then sub out to the the RCA "power" input on the 6k to use the amp. The 7k has the same RCA board so they should work the same. Page 7 of the 6k owners manual.
Thanks for an informative and entertaining review as usual. I have the 6000A but chose to use a Schiit Modi 3 DAC instead of the internal DAC as the internal didn't do it for me. I am very happy with the sound thru my KEF R300 speakers. I am not interested in the HDMI (but agree it should be available) and the extra power is probably not required in my medium sized studio. Given my setup, do you think I would benefit from an upgrade to the 7000A?
How the 7000A compares to Roksan Attessa lets say about the mid-bass and bass Regime? If you had to pick the one with more tight control and more warmer ? I want to pair one of them or Marantz 40n with SonusFaber Sonetto II. Dac and hdmi and look gives maybe an advantage to 7000a but what are your thoughts ? Thanks and awesome job 🏆😀
HELP!! I just bough this amp and love it!! The only thing I'm missing is tone control - for movies and TV more than anything. QUESTION: Would the trick looping the pre-outs back into itself introduce any noticeable latency? Like I'm concerned lip sync could be off in movies/TV using this trick. Thinking about looping in one of the EQs by Schitt. Thanks!
Thank you so much, that was great and it shows you are the best reviewers! At that budget price, I agree that would make it my first choice but I still can't find it in Canada I believe so the Anthem currently on sale could be very interesting but I wish the 7000a was like the NAD 3050 with the meters, tone controls AND 2 pairs of speaker terminals, that would have made it the best of all time... And I don't know about other people but the bad reviews on Amazon on the Powernode will always make me hesitant to give them a chance... Many are dying early on you know... But I'm still dreaming about the Yamaha rn2000a but would probably be happy with the 7000a for a few years but I would always be thinking about upgrading again, that's the big difference... Have a great day!
How does this compare to Hegel H95, does it worth $600(in my country) to upgrade to the Hegel H95, or just save $600 for the 6000A. If I pair them with Lumina II and Chord Qutest. Thanks!
Hi, I would like to do the same thing with you, can you let me know how to connect and x3800 and 7000a? Is it X3600 (Front) pre-out and plug into 7000a's input "Power"?? And if I would like to stream Spotify, I can use HEOS to stream, or I have to buy another network player? Thank you
Another helpful review. Subtle differences moving up to the 9000 for not so subtle price increase. Curious if you would ever do an updated review on the Billie MK2 upgrade since you did the original Billie. 7000A and new Billie are close in price and would be interesting to hear your value assessment.
Audiolab make great products at a price to please many people. They have style and performance tucked away in a beautiful package. The future is here and whether or not you need an HMDI port, just give it to me. You don’t want to be that person after seeming it work now has to either get rid of their current piece or have to add another piece of equipment, thereby complicating things and adding another point for failure or problems.
Quick question: For a 2.1 setup with 50/50 mix of movies and music, would you choose the Cinema 50, Sony 5000ES or Audiolab 7000a with a powernode for streaming?
Great reviews, I always enjoy watching your videos! For, if it doesn't have tone controls and/or no subwoofer connections... I'm out! And are Technics speakers going to be reviewed or not? Just curious!
Hi Andrew and Kristi, from Portugal. I really enjoyed your review of the Audiolab 7000A. I especially agree with you, on Audiolab's failure to include tone control, after all, technically, there's nothing special about being included in the amp, in my opinion. On the issue of just using two channels having an AV amplifier, I've always done that with my old Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 HT receiver and I've always liked the sound quality, despite being outdated. Also, I've always used Onkyo's bi-amping capability with the bi-wiring of the Acoustic Energy Aegys Evo 3. By the way, what is your opinion about the compatibility of the 7000A with the AE Aegys? Thank you very much and congratulations for your excellent work. All the best to you both.
Great review (and spirited back-and-forth) here. Were I in the market to tear out the middle of my 'fi (I'm not, since everything works nicely together, and via one remote at that), I'd jump for the 7000A in a heartbeat. I'm strictly a 2.0 listener, and while HDMI doesn't move my meter one iota, the fact that my beloved has hung a 52" screen above this system of mine means it would actually play a bit nicer with the Audiolab than my somewhat-aging NAD-based system does.
Hi Barrett. I am also a 2.0 listener. I just run a digital optical cable from my TV into my DAC. This may be a stand alone unit or built-in on the amp, like the 7000a. Super simple.
Mine, too, I bought my 3020 in 1988! I am still using an old NAD 214 power amp I bought in the mid-nineties. Out of all the gear I've bought over the years, the move from an integrated amp to a more powerful separate pre and power amps was the most notable in sound quality. Turn up the volume and the weight behind the sound of the NAD 214 power amp really kicks you in the chest! I was shocked at the change, and no other "upgrade" has ever made as much of a difference. I don't think I'd bother with NAD now, since their move to class D amps.
Hello from Canada - I hooked up to your videos for almost few years now. Thanks for the all the videos from both of you. I hv so far a 6000A ans 8300A. looking to see your review for 7000N for those who hv a powerfull Amp. appreciate all the videos /comments .
Great review! I know youve probably not heard yet, but really curious to know how this amp sounds compared to the new Leak Stereo 230. Both the new Leak and Audiolab amps seem to be the beefed up versions of their respectful predecessors. Higher wattage and better input options (both have HDMI!). Style preferences aside, the one additional thing the Leak offers is tone control. That might win it out for me if its anywhere near as good as the audiolab. Have to think they are at least similar quality coming from the same parent company and being almost identical in price. I have not seen many reviews of the Leak yet though, so holding off on my decision for now!
Ian Cooper We'd love to review the Leak but at this time have not been offered one for review. Let them know you'd like to see their products on the channel and maybe it will give them the nudge they need.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I'm a current owner of an Audiolab 6000A and considering an upgrade to either 7000A or Leak 230. Both offer better connectivity: USB input for my Raspberry Pi streamer which will allow me to get rid of the Topping D10s DAC and HDMI for the TV, as well as more power output for my floor standing speakers. I'd be curious to hear your take!
Another great review guys and one I've been looking forward to. I think you may even be first to review the new Audiolab 7000A. I have a question, perhaps you can answer. From a purely audio quality perspective, does the 6000A and 7000A sound pretty much the same? And is the 6000A discontinued or does it remain in the product lineup. Thanks for any clarification on this that you can provide. Thx again.
As someone who prefers to keep digital sources separate from my analogue sources I went for 8300 series gear, which is unfortunately now consigned to a footnote in Audiolab's history; according to a couple of guys I know in the industry. If I wasn't bothered about having analogue and digital in one chassis then I would probably go for the 7000A as I feel that it offers better value overall in comparison to the 9000A, but at the end of the day this is a mute point personally because I'm more than happy with my 8300 series gear and I can't see me changing them for a very long time...if ever. Andrew, have you ever heard the 8300 series gear? you really should as there are bound to be bargains going now that the 7000 and 9000 series are out.
I realydo not get why nobady compares 8300 against 7000. The forst one has xlr inputs, higher current capability, but I would like to know how do they compare soundvise as I read that 8300 has extnded trable and a bit different sound character and I am afraid of trable a bit. What is yor experience, can be 8300 too trabely?
I recently purchased a pair of PSB T600's for 3700$. Currently running them on my old Emotiva UMC-1 and XPA-5 gen 1 combo. The soundstage, with some music, is very very good. But I feel like the PSB's has much more potential. After watching your reviews of the PSB's and all the audiolab integrated amps, I am very much considering a 7000A. Considering how you praised the 6000A in your initial PSB T600 review, this seems like a great fit, right?
You hit on the nail, at least when it comes to my take on Audiolab products. I've been interested in their gear and almost bought the 6000 a, but the lack of tone controls kept me from doing so. I would like to know more of your take on your experiment with the minidsp. I'm wondering if the a/d to d/a process in the minidsp changes the sound/quality of the Audiolab. I don't if you remember but I asked something similar during the last live chat you guys had. Except, I want to use a minidsp flex. I know the flex is its own thing but I hear it has higher-performing circuitry than the standard minidsp and I want it to be as transparent to my Mac as possible. My plan would be to ignore the flex's volume control and use it like a normal minidsp 2x4 HD. By the way, that pre/power mode is a cool feature. You don't see that too often. Similar to the pre-out/ amp in jumpers on my Mcintosh and Outlaw RR2160 MKlI, a feature that makes these units so flexible. I find that I want more than just tone controls, I want granular frequency controls. Until they start putting parametric eq in integrateds, I need pre-outs/main ins or at the very least pre-outs to into a DSP unit and then into a power amp.
QOTD: Yes it does seem the 7000a is the budget king to beat. After watching the review, that's a real punch in the nuts I can't get HDMI on the 9000 but I can on the 7000. Sigh. Such a tease Audiolab. Such a tease. That said, the 7000 looks fantastic. I'm hoping you all will also do the 8300 review! 😉
1800$ is considered a “budget” 2-channel amplifier these days? I’d call it upper mid-fi approaching 2 grand. I consider the 500-1000$ price category mid-fi for 2-channel amplification, and under 500$ to be budget category.
"mono" or "bridge" mode switch........................... Now just add that to the "main in" section & offer a separate duplicate specification power amp. Like the Iota PA3 implementation. That would be the versatility every integrated should have. The bonus is now effectively running monoblocks easily & most economically. Plus, presumably, the manufacturer has the ultimate advantage over any competitor for the upgrade. 🔈🔉🔊
Great video, thank you! I loved that you liked the Audiolab.. to be honest, it is one of the brands I noticed from very early years.. I 1st saw them when I was 20+something.. In a UK hi fi magazine and the designing outside (and inside) impressed me. I said, Wow, this is how an amplifier must be! 😀 Soon i had the chance to see and hear it from close, and it didn't disappointed me at all.. The perceived quality was high, the feeling when using it, excellent.. (especially these 2 classic knobs for input selection and volume control) which I still love seeing them on products, and the sound! Nice work, keep going! 😀
Hello Andrew! Thank you for your high quality review!! I got a question about Amp I wish to choice best Amp for me. Audiolab 7000a / NAD c399 / marantz 40n are my choice. I am using Smart TV for music sauce. Streming is not necessary. But it is better with striming. Which one is better to me between 7000a and c399 and 40n? My speaker is Monitoraudio gold 100 😊
Ooooo, LOVE the idea of looping in a MiniDSP unit! Great catch! That combo is likely one of the top values in integrated amps anywhere close to that price! As always, another great review and great insight! Happy Sunday and keep ‘em coming!
Thank you Andrew and Kristi for your review. I will be buying a new amp down the road to replace my old Denon. The review helped mske my decision much easier. Thanks🌞
I do love their products. I’m hoping for a review of the 8300. If not, is it worth the buy and use my 6000a play as a pre with KLH model5’s? My gut tells me that would be great.
The possibility to add an EQ or DSP is not a unique feature of the Audiolab, there are even pretty old amps that offer this. So, it is as simple as it gets, you can just add it as mentioned in the vid (Pre out - EQ - Power In). The Dirac part is of course a bit more complex, but there are many guides available online. Just search for Dirac + hifi. If you add a miniDSP 2x4 you can even add a Sub, adjust the crossover, and use room correction. Pretty cool.
I know it isn't true, but I feel like questions I've been asking you via several platforms regarding receivers/integrated with HDMI has been answered - many thanks! One question though - from a practical perspective, do I need to interact with the 7000a directly when I've hooked up a streaming device? For example, I feel like listening to some Miles Davis or Taylor Swift via Tidal/Apple Music, do I need to interact with both the streamer and the Audiolab to get my music going - or would this, much as with TV playback with ARC, go automatically? Does the Audiolab 'sense' input, and change channels accordingly? Will audition (if possible) regardless for sound, but for day-to-day usage within a family setting, this could be a make-or-break it situation (in favor of an AVR or Powernode).
I have audiolab 7000A at home preparing to send it back ! Is a pain to use it ...but it sounds nice! U always need to stay with the remote in your hand ...u can't control volume from an app ...doesn't auto change source !
@Ovidiu N. Your remarks are only partially accurate. If you have the 7000A connected to your TV using an HDMI cable, then you need to make sure that CEC is turned on inside your TV's menu as well inside the amp's menu in order for the Audiolab to turn on and off automatically with your TV. This also enables your TV remote to control the volume on the Audiolab. In our case, we used the Apple TV remote to control the TV and the Audiolab (power and volume/mute - in integrated mode). If you are listening to an analog source and you were to hit volume or a button on your TV's remote, the Audiolab should switch to its HDMI input automatically. That said you are correct, the 7000A does not automatically switch between its analog or digital inputs. Doing this requires you to use the 7000A's included remote. This is not uncommon. There are very few products that have auto sensing on all inputs. Now you may find a product that will turn "on" when it senses a signal for the first time but that is not the same as what you are expecting or faulting the Audiolab for.
Like you, I’d prefer to have an integrated over tons of boxes and wires. I’m wondering how a 7000a would compare to my current setup…Emotiva DC-1 preamp/dac, emotiva xpa-1L mono blocks, driving Sonus Faber Lumina V? Would the 7000a give me the same or better performance without as much clutter? If not, would going to the 9000 get me there? Separation is really important to me, I love hearing all the different layers
Hello the wife and myself watch all your reviews and they are great Have just purchased the Audiolab 7000a and wow the sound quality is amazing . Have used Technics amps before but this is a different league Have the 7000a with B&W 601 original ones from the early 90s and Fluance RT85N plus the Sony Haps and all sound great.
Who would say this stuff is better than similar EMOTIVA stuff? I'm interested and looking for Pre amp with Aptek Blootoof and maybe an internal DAC Emotivas has an FM tuner, which is nice, but I don't really need it.
A fantastic review. I'm going to replace my Rega Brio with the Audiolab 7000a at some point this year due to recently getting into streaming at home via a CA CXNv2. The last amp I had with tone controls was the NAD C320 BEE (lasted me twenty years) and then I used the Source Direct button to bypass them. Can I ask if you tried the headphone amp on the 7000A?
I've tried the headphone amp on the 6000a and it's lack luster. I think they add headphone jacks just for the spec sheet but realistically, if you are an audiophile, you are going to want a dedicated headphone amp.
@@bearclaw5115 I guess it's a case of trying headphone outputs on other amplifiers with a reputable dealer alongside a dedicated headphone amplifier Then weighing up the combined cost vs the one box Intergrated options 👍
Thanks to you both for this excellent review, for the hack tip and for the comps to a wide range of options. I had been waiting for it. You mentioned preferring something other than Play-Fi for streaming & in the comments mention a few options (1 link didn't work). Could touch on if that means bypassing the 7000A's DAC & if there is a streamer that best compliments the Audiolab sound profile? Will be a new to streaming user.
I have a Marantz Cinema 50 paired with 4 KEF R3s (and a KF92 sub) and anyone saying a high end AVR can't excel at 2 channel is delusional. Playing stereo on my system sounds pretty amazing with fantastic detail and an otherworldly soundstage.
Why is everyone delusional that doesn't share your opinion? My HT system is a pretty big step up from what you have, and I have some 2 channel gear that's less expensive and sounds better than my HT system. Should I now call you delusional?
@@AT-wl9yq I've noticed the strawman you're asserting here. You said "don't share your opinion" when I said those who said an AVR "couldn't excel" are delusional. I never said you and I have to agree it sounds great. My point was there is no evidence an AVR can't do the job just as well. It's the same tech - there's nothing magically different between a 2 channel amp and a 5 channel amp. You're free to FEEL however you want however any assertion that this is some fundamental flaw with AVRs in 2 channel playback isn't supported by any evidence. It's a religion and I wouldn't dream of dispossessing you of it . . .
@@pcfreakx I was just going by what you said. Lets have another look at it. "and anyone saying a high end AVR can't excel at 2 channel is delusional." That's your opinion, but you state it as fact. I really don't care about all your BS with a strawman argument. People like you always find ways to justify your opinions as fact. As good as my HT gear is, it pales in comparison to well designed, purpose built 2 channel gear that costs much less. So, if you want to talk yourself into how good your HT sounds on 2 channel material, fine. You have every right to do so. But don't call me delusional because I don't see things your way.
I ordered the 7000A, very excited, albeit I have to wait before it'll be available for delivery. Pairing it with the Monitor Audio silver 200 7G and Bluesound Node 2i streamer transport. Have obviously not heard that combination yet but very confident I will be seriously happy in my listening room (which is a semi-small living room).
I *always* wanted HDMI. Like forever! Not only do I want HDMI, I’ve been hunting for a headphone amp that will peel off the audio, give me the full surround sound codec simulated in two channel headphones, and pass the full 4K 120hz Dolby Vision/HDR/++ video to my TV. If anyone doubts that this is possible, my old Denon AVR which was from the 2K generation would give me the lossless audio codecs through the headphone jack. Don’t know which DAC chip they were using but it was awesome. My current generation Marantz SR8015 doesn’t do what its older cousin the Denon did. Rookie mistake on my part for not demoing the AVR before purchasing. Just this week I took my Sennheiser HD800S and demoed one of Yamaha’s top shelf Aventage AVRs. Yamaha was my second choice when I purchased my old Denon. I can tell you that Yamaha does not overlook the headphone output. The “enhanced” and the “AI” functions work through headphones and is bangin! I might have to sell my Marantz and get the Yamaha…. But that’s not financially realistic so I’m still on the hunt for a middleware solution.
@andrewrobinsonreviews I have a Rotel 980bx from the 90s. If I want more detail, better imaging etc. Should I buy musical fidelity, Audiolab or another amp? I want the best integrated amp for under $5,000. Thank you!
Thank you for a different take on audio reviews, Andrew and Kristi! I am curious: you just recently reviewed Parasound products as well. How do the latest AudioLab products compare to something like Parasound's A23 or A23+? (At least in your opinion, of course!)
They are comparable however, A23/+ is just an amp. You would need to invest in a preamp like this one bit.ly/3FVe9JF, however even then you still would be lacking some of the functionality the Audiolab provides. The Parasound will give you more power should you need it. I like Parasound products and have owned them in the past. Some may feel they're brighter than the Audiolab.
What is the benefit of HDMI ARC over just using an optical cable from the tv to the amp or streamer? I like technology so not against it just don’t understand what it brings over existing technology, look forward to your response and thanks for the great content
You can control the volume from the TV hdmi it can also carry more channels at a higher bit rate, optical tops out at 24bit 192khz which is plenty for most
Really good explanation, I like your advice on other aspects of HIFI too. Did you ever test your miniDSP/Dirac idea with a subwoofer or two. Could it also work with the 9000a and Cambridge Audio 81 as well? I am out of date with HIFI advances over the past 30 years so I am hunting for speakers that are particularly good for classical piano, jazz and vocals. Any recommendations? I have seen the amphion argon range, how do you rate them? Anything would be better than my ancient budget system and allowing for inflation much cheaper too. I am retired and vividly aware of technological improvement and relatively decreasing costs but for something like the amphions I am very far from a dealer and reviews help me decide if city break audition is worth it and because few dealers stock a wide range of competing speakers and compatible amps then a visit requires researching dealers too.
Im one of the few who dont want digital in my integrated since it’s usually a compromise. Its better to spend that money on making the amp better. On the other hand I think having sub outs is very important.
¡Gracias! I am a happy owner of the 6000A, thanks for your review on it!!! that caused to pull the trigger, I'm glad I could purchase it from Amazon UK (yes that is right) because in Mexico it is toooooo expensive and very hard to find. I'm using it with Triangles Comete 40th Anniversary and Topping E70 Velvet DAC, it is incredible even using optical from TV I feel the concerts ambiance, like in front of the artist and people behind whispering, very sublime type of sound that I enjoy too much. I think Triangles can offer more so when I saw the 7000A it became the first choice to "upgrade" but, not a secret, all the similarity it has with the 6000A and because there are just a few reviews of it has prevented me to take the decision. I just wish the 6000A has a little more sparkle on the top end (you car hear the drum plates but somewhat shy) and a little more depth, do you think the 7000A can give me that? Really appreciate any comment. Best regards.
The 7000A is an upgrade over the 6000A, but it's more incremental rather than dramatic. Everything is going to be a little more refined but not outright different or wholly new. Will this result in brighter highs? Not likely, though detail, instrument separation and low level listening as well as bass control will marginally improve with the 7000A compared to the 6000A. Hope this helps. Thanks for your support!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews that helps for sure because that means 7000A is a safe bet for me as I don't want to lose anything from the 6000A but improve it. Thank you!!!
I Have monitor audio RX silver speakers ( for now) like them a lot. looking for a new amp and would like an all in one experience or streamer as separate part. How would would you place the audilab 7000a vs Cambridge cxa81 vs Marantz stereo 70 ? Best regards, nicholas
Thanks for the review, Andrew, Kristi! I want to try this amplifier with a WiiM Pro streamer (with 10-band software EQ) and various speakers. Andrew: also thanks for the testing the out and in for an EQ ---that addition would preclude a subwoofer however. Comments: 1. I have no idea who goes for the NAD product right now because what I've heard from their hybrid digital amps was the WORST experience with any amplifier I've tested --including compared to their own Blusound Powernode. Who likes sloppy bass? Who does the NAD work for? Very weird. 2. Marantz is too dark/soft and lacks the punch of the AXR100. I am sure the Audiolab has a good chance at sounding better for my use than both of these, one for tone/EQ and less distortion than the Cambridge. 3. I currently use the Blusound Powernode 80-watt unit and it's still too dark/soft and lame/characterless. You will find it lacking if you listen to rock ensembles or metal music. 4. I don't have the budget to step up to $3000+ amps like Exposure, Hegel and top tier/Flagship units from any brand; the 7000A seems like a happy compromise.
Hey! Very good review as always! Can you tell more about room correction , and would it work with 6000a too? I'm very courius about it. Cheers from Poland!
Good job 👏 love your reviews as always keep on reviewing!!!! I wanted to listen to Audiolab equipment but haven’t so truly I can’t say anything about their stuff but one day I will .
If you already have a two channel receiver you can ad a black box to get 5.1, 7.1 surround. It also has ARC, digital coax, optical to get old receivers there. A cheaper way to go .
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@@andrewrobinsonreviews I would like to see that too. Specially when you output a lot of content, people don't understand how you do that and still give each item the time it deserves
We want every receipt of when they push products back. Lol
I think Kristi should video and narrate a "how does Andrew do it" episode.
I would love that video too, all of the work you guys do should be recognized. With that being said, I’m quite sure such video would not be “worth it” as it’s probably not something that cand bring in the views…
I really don’t have any interest in this product, but your reviews are phenomenal and I look forward to them every week. Thank you and Kristi for what y’all do for the community!
I appreciate that!
Yours and Kristis back and forth is the most informative part of the video. It put everything in perspective
Glad you enjoyed it
Yes, is the correct answer. I'm going to get the Audiolab 7000a. Thanks for the review and greetings from Germany, Constantin
The lack of TONE CONTROLS is what's holding me back from buying another Audiolab product. Thanks for the video you guys. Excellent as usual.
That's why I am using my Audiolab 8300a together with a DAC that offers tone control via parametric EQ ( the RME ADI 2 DAC). Tone control should be in the chain somewhere.
Why on earth would you need tone controls with such a good sounding amp?
@@keithbrowes1974 it can be useful for bad recordings.
@@rw80 fair comment, though I've never felt the need for them myself , I think perhaps I've just learned to live with dull sounding recordings, each to their own and differing views on things is what makes life interesting 🤔🤓
The amp is quite neutral if the recording is rubbish your just adding more distortion to the chain.
I got the 6000A because of your reviews and enjoy it. The 7000A looks sweet especially with the HDMI and MQA capabilities. Very very tempting for sure.
I gotta say: your commentary on 2 channel listening with a receiver was ALTOGETHER SPOT ON!!! I couldn't have said it any better! I have been enjoying 2 channel and multichannel music listening with my Yamaha receiver for almost 2 years, and the sound quality is very good, easily rivaling separate 2 channel setups. So I was pleasantly surprised to hear you guys telling the absolute TRUTH about this! Thank you so much!
Comparing with what though? Can an AVR compete with a Technics R1000? A Pass Labs? Is it even as good as the Audiolab 9000A? Good enough? Perhaps. but some chase every last bit of quality, and if an AVR is THAT good, what excuse does any stereo amp have to not be as good? Would you be driving Focal Diablo Utopias with a Denon AVC-X4700h? Heck, with the Anthem recently tested? Or would you pair it with something better?
(Granted, room EQ is useful and might make more of a difference than a marginally better amp.)
@@kadajawi6567 I can only speak from experience. When I first heard my benchmark speakers (B&W 702 S2), they were paired with a Pioneer VSX LX504 AVR that sounded wonderful! It was $999. When I heard that pairing, I was convinced that I didn't need to get a separates system. A good AVR was all I needed. Especially since I love home theater just about as much as music, it works for me. I would be willing to bet you couldn't distinguish an AVR from a 2 channel system in a thorough blind test.
@@kadajawi6567 Also, I've been to the shows. I've listened to pricey separate setups. And then I come home and listen to my rig, and so far, I don't feel like I've missed a beat. People get so caught up in the components, and believe that you have to spend crazy amounts of money to get good sound, when that really isn't the case. My entire system costs under $2500, and everyone that has heard it has said only good things. So I can only speak from my personal experience.
@@Larwiz Depends on the amps, but I've heard the difference between say the Powernode and 6000A or between an Icepower and a Purifi based amp. In either case I thought the first option was wonderful, until I heard what the speakers were actually capable of.
@@kadajawi6567 Right. See in this field, there's always good, better, and best. And many of us are chasing the best, while we're already at good or better. My argument is that an AVR is fully capable of producing very good sound. Sound that could seriously contend with some Integrated or even separate systems. When I play cds through my Blu-ray player and receiver, you can't tell me that it isn't detailed and beautiful. I think it would challenge many CD transport/dac/separate systems. At the very least, it wouldn't be embarrassed by any of them.
I’m def a 2 channel hifi purist but would never besmirch a product for having hdmi. I’m far more interested in I2S connection and onboard dac performance of the integrated. Also I think ARC can be highly useful for 2 channel music especially if you have room modes and integration of subs. This seems like a fantastic option for the $.
ARC won't help you with room modes and a sub. It's just about getting digital audio to the amp. Manufacturers can do room correction without ARC, and they can not do room correction with ARC. Same with a dedicated sub output. However, manufacturers who offer ARC / eARC are probably more likely to offer room correction and a sub output, as they are less purist focused (or bone headed).
A resounding YES! It was worth it! I have been in a state of irresolution and hesitancy about which Audiolab to pull the trigger on. I feel good about what to do now. Thanks for another fun review, Andrew and Kristi.
So, did you buy it?
Hello from London U.K., what a very nicely considered video. I really liked the idea of hooking up the MiniDSP. Would you consider making a video short on how you did that with the 7000a? Thank you Mike
I remember my old 8000S with fond memories. Audiolab are always recommended.
Just got a 7000a with a 7000CDT. Preparing to order 7000Play. Just bought a Schiit Loki Max after owning a Loki + and Lokius. The plan is to either use the inputs on the amp, go Pre-Out to the Schiit Max then back to one of the analog Line Ins. Forgot to mention these are all EQs by Schiit. I’ve done the preout to main in before on a Cambridge ax61
Thanks for the review. I love your no BS style. I was hoping that you would throw in the Rotel 1592 mk2 as a comparison too.
Nice that Andrew checked back on the addition of the room control and tone adjustment solution. BTW Kristi, I also love Class AB.
As I’ve said before regarding Audiolab, due to its versatile pre/integrated/power options, a Schiit Loki or Lokius can easily be inserted in the signal path and voila - tone controls!
Be sure to tune in Thursday then...
Perhaps a clue regarding the new “crazy” product Jason Stoddard has been teasing?
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Will do! Hope you are reviewing a Loki or Lokius!
Great review! On the question of 7000A vs POWERNODE, I would say it comes down to use-case. I have an A14MKII that on paper is quite similar to the 7000A (minus the wonderful, wonderful inclusion of HDMI on the Audiolab) and I use it for a dedicated 2-channel listening zone. I have two POWERNODEs, one in a bedroom and the other driving my Patio setup. For a Zone 2-3 type of setup, the POWERNODE cannot be beat in terms of performance/value, especially with BluOS. For home theatre, get an AVR. However, for a dedicated 2-channel listening space, a dedicated integrated like the Audiolab 7000A (or separates) will always reign supreme.
Interesting… would you consider replacing Powernode with the 7000? I currently have the PowerNode with 6 ohms speakers and I’m not sure they sound the best with it
Definitely. Especially for dedicated 2-channel listening. I have a large room, and the Powernode often needed to be near max volume to drive a pair of LS50 Metas sufficiently for my listening position. I moved the Powernode to the patio where I can't listen too loudly without disrupting the neighbors anyway. :)
Audiolab has a very intriguing aspect to its design and performance and features. I would have more readily compared this unit to the Rotel A14MkII or similar than any NAD or Yamaha product - otherwise, great review.
I have just ordered an Audiolab 7000a. I already own a Schiit Lokius 6-band equalizer. I noticed the 7000a had a pre out and was going to run from the 7000a out and into the Lokius then back into an analog RCA port on the amp. You referred to 3 modes the amp could do. Other than run coax out the pre and back in is there anything else I need to do? I have found the Schiit Lokius to be a life saver and should receive it this week. I am also using Dacmagic 200, a Mac Mini and Sonus Faber speakers.I see you're recording today so I joined the fandom. If you can please give me a thumbs up or down, I think it will be up. I run via USB audio from my Mini to the Dacmagic. Run all devices into the dac, then to the Lokius then back to the amp.
I just snagged an Outlaw 2220 monoblock to power a BW HTM71 S3 center. I have 702 S2 Signatures. It’s great! Have you guys thought to bring Outlaw into the fold and maybe do a Rogue Amp series for the smaller no name brands that are outside the big 7? Thanks for great videos!
I also bought the 7000a and tested it extensively with the KEF R5. It's certainly a nice amplifier, but I didn't find any difference to the Denon X3800h in terms of sound; the Audiolab shouldn't be vastly superior to the Denon in Stereo mode?
As someone who listens to music of all genres, I am always curious about the sound stage and imaging of the different amp so I can make a choice this summer. This is really not mentioned when discussing amps with internal DACs. Some of the other choices you mentioned are of my list.
Another in depth review of a very good product. I personally had an Audiolab 8300 integrated and was pleased with its performance for price. I’ve since sold it for a vintage Luxman 505u and what a huge difference in sonic quality. I was hoping that you could get the new version of my Luxman and compare it to the McIntosh MA-5300 at around the same price($6500). Thanks again for another informative video. Please keep them coming!
Sadly, Luxman requires a level of control in the review process that we don't agree with which is why you'll likely never seen them on the channel.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews ok, thanks Andrew. I can’t say that I blame you for not reviewing their products if they need any control at all. Your channel is always honest and that’s why I’ll continue to watch and look forward to your next review!👍
Serious question here for Andrew, as someone who hasn't "ARC"ed his setup yet: You mention controlling volume through Apple TV's remote, but what does that connection look like? Is the Audiolab connected to the Apple TV via HDMI, or is it both AudioLab and AppleTV connected to TV via two separate HDMI cables? I've watched your channel for years now, and you always talk about the convenience of ARC and eARC. I'd love to know more about the setup with these technologies, and how components are "networked", as that can really drive some buying decisions. Thanks for the great content as always.
Just checked and the 6000a can also do dsp thing. It actually says that is what it is for. Thanks!
This trick will work with ALL Audiolab products.
Also, the pre/pwr mode may work with the MiniDSP 2x4 but I'm concerned about the sequential ADC+DAC conversions.
Wouldn't this affect the sound quality? The 2x4 is known to have a mediocre DAC...
I have a feeling it would be better to use the MiniDSP only to low pass and EQ the subwoofers using the Audiolab's preout (the main speakers playing the untouched full range signal).
Better yet, pretty sure you would get a better sound with a MiniDSP Flex running has the preamp into the Audiolab has a power amplifier + subwoofers. 😋
It is the lack of tone controls that have made me continue to buy Rotel gear over the Audiolab. I would love to set-up the 7000 with some Q Acoustics, but my range of music is very eclectic, including a lot of older music. Without tone controls, you sometimes find yourself stopping a track as you cannot compensate for an older recording...even with remasters considered.
The Rotel and Audiolab both give excellent sound for the money. I recently replaced my old Rotel 10 series amp with the Tribute A11, it is for our smallish living room, and is excellent; even without the DAC, the Tidal stream is awesome as the Bluetooth is great. The Audiolab would have been great for the man-cave, but without the tone controls, I think I will stay with Rotel.
This AudioLab has the prerequisite "pre out/main-in" loop. One may insert a Schitt 6 band EQ or a digital DSP in there. It's outstanding flexibility.
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Rotel is much better than Audiolab..
We kept the a11 and returned the Audiolab -that sounded anemic with older recordings and Amazon Prime movies.
Yes, it was worth it and as I am an A/V nut on both stereo and 11.2 channel I will lean back and enjoy my 8015 and the recent upgrades on the programing I got.
Nice review as always. You mentioned not being able to connect a powered sub, but on the 6k you can go from 6k pre out to sub rca in, then sub out to the the RCA "power" input on the 6k to use the amp. The 7k has the same RCA board so they should work the same. Page 7 of the 6k owners manual.
Thanks for an informative and entertaining review as usual. I have the 6000A but chose to use a Schiit Modi 3 DAC instead of the internal DAC as the internal didn't do it for me. I am very happy with the sound thru my KEF R300 speakers. I am not interested in the HDMI (but agree it should be available) and the extra power is probably not required in my medium sized studio. Given my setup, do you think I would benefit from an upgrade to the 7000A?
How does it compare to the Cambridge CXA81?
Intergrateds are my favorite product yall review. Good to see audiolan come with a reasonably priced winner like this.
Audiolab has been killing it lately, IMHO.
How the 7000A compares to Roksan Attessa lets say about the mid-bass and bass Regime? If you had to pick the one with more tight control and more warmer ? I want to pair one of them or Marantz 40n with SonusFaber Sonetto II. Dac and hdmi and look gives maybe an advantage to 7000a but what are your thoughts ? Thanks and awesome job 🏆😀
HELP!! I just bough this amp and love it!! The only thing I'm missing is tone control - for movies and TV more than anything.
QUESTION: Would the trick looping the pre-outs back into itself introduce any noticeable latency?
Like I'm concerned lip sync could be off in movies/TV using this trick.
Thinking about looping in one of the EQs by Schitt. Thanks!
Thank you so much, that was great and it shows you are the best reviewers!
At that budget price, I agree that would make it my first choice but I still can't find it in Canada I believe so the Anthem currently on sale could be very interesting but I wish the 7000a was like the NAD 3050 with the meters, tone controls AND 2 pairs of speaker terminals, that would have made it the best of all time...
And I don't know about other people but the bad reviews on Amazon on the Powernode will always make me hesitant to give them a chance... Many are dying early on you know...
But I'm still dreaming about the Yamaha rn2000a but would probably be happy with the 7000a for a few years but I would always be thinking about upgrading again, that's the big difference...
Have a great day!
We've had a Powernode since 2021 and have had no problem with it.
How does this compare to Hegel H95, does it worth $600(in my country) to upgrade to the Hegel H95, or just save $600 for the 6000A. If I pair them with Lumina II and Chord Qutest. Thanks!
Just picked one up in black for £1099, a lovely match for my 6000CDT. Use with my old DENON 3600 AV Amp to power main L & R channels. AWESOME !!
Hi, I would like to do the same thing with you, can you let me know how to connect and x3800 and 7000a? Is it X3600 (Front) pre-out and plug into 7000a's input "Power"??
And if I would like to stream Spotify, I can use HEOS to stream, or I have to buy another network player? Thank you
Another helpful review. Subtle differences moving up to the 9000 for not so subtle price increase. Curious if you would ever do an updated review on the Billie MK2 upgrade since you did the original Billie. 7000A and new Billie are close in price and would be interesting to hear your value assessment.
Audiolab make great products at a price to please many people. They have style and performance tucked away in a beautiful package.
The future is here and whether or not you need an HMDI port, just give it to me. You don’t want to be that person after seeming it work now has to either get rid of their current piece or have to add another piece of equipment, thereby complicating things and adding another point for failure or problems.
Oh, you didn't compare it to the Musical Fidelity M3 or M5si
Quick question: For a 2.1 setup with 50/50 mix of movies and music, would you choose the Cinema 50, Sony 5000ES or Audiolab 7000a with a powernode for streaming?
Well worth the wait. Another excellent review guys! Question: How is the pairing btw the 7000A & Martin Logan XT B100 book shelf speaker?
Great reviews, I always enjoy watching your videos! For, if it doesn't have tone controls and/or no subwoofer connections... I'm out! And are Technics speakers going to be reviewed or not? Just curious!
Hi Andrew and Kristi, from Portugal.
I really enjoyed your review of the Audiolab 7000A. I especially agree with you, on Audiolab's failure to include tone control, after all, technically, there's nothing special about being included in the amp, in my opinion. On the issue of just using two channels having an AV amplifier, I've always done that with my old Onkyo TX-SR605 7.1 HT receiver and I've always liked the sound quality, despite being outdated. Also, I've always used Onkyo's bi-amping capability with the bi-wiring of the Acoustic Energy Aegys Evo 3.
By the way, what is your opinion about the compatibility of the 7000A with the AE Aegys? Thank you very much and congratulations for your excellent work.
All the best to you both.
Great review (and spirited back-and-forth) here. Were I in the market to tear out the middle of my 'fi (I'm not, since everything works nicely together, and via one remote at that), I'd jump for the 7000A in a heartbeat. I'm strictly a 2.0 listener, and while HDMI doesn't move my meter one iota, the fact that my beloved has hung a 52" screen above this system of mine means it would actually play a bit nicer with the Audiolab than my somewhat-aging NAD-based system does.
Hi Barrett. I am also a 2.0 listener. I just run a digital optical cable from my TV into my DAC. This may be a stand alone unit or built-in on the amp, like the 7000a. Super simple.
My first amp was a NAD 3020 ,a long time ago ,what a great amp .
Mine, too, I bought my 3020 in 1988! I am still using an old NAD 214 power amp I bought in the mid-nineties. Out of all the gear I've bought over the years, the move from an integrated amp to a more powerful separate pre and power amps was the most notable in sound quality. Turn up the volume and the weight behind the sound of the NAD 214 power amp really kicks you in the chest! I was shocked at the change, and no other "upgrade" has ever made as much of a difference. I don't think I'd bother with NAD now, since their move to class D amps.
Hello from Canada - I hooked up to your videos for almost few years now. Thanks for the all the videos from both of you. I hv so far a 6000A ans 8300A. looking to see your review for 7000N for those who hv a powerfull Amp. appreciate all the videos /comments .
Great review!
I know youve probably not heard yet, but really curious to know how this amp sounds compared to the new Leak Stereo 230. Both the new Leak and Audiolab amps seem to be the beefed up versions of their respectful predecessors. Higher wattage and better input options (both have HDMI!).
Style preferences aside, the one additional thing the Leak offers is tone control. That might win it out for me if its anywhere near as good as the audiolab. Have to think they are at least similar quality coming from the same parent company and being almost identical in price.
I have not seen many reviews of the Leak yet though, so holding off on my decision for now!
Ian Cooper We'd love to review the Leak but at this time have not been offered one for review. Let them know you'd like to see their products on the channel and maybe it will give them the nudge they need.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews i will message them!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I'm a current owner of an Audiolab 6000A and considering an upgrade to either 7000A or Leak 230. Both offer better connectivity: USB input for my Raspberry Pi streamer which will allow me to get rid of the Topping D10s DAC and HDMI for the TV, as well as more power output for my floor standing speakers. I'd be curious to hear your take!
I'm already at the "why didn't they include hdmi? stage"for a couple years now
For tone control, Schiit Loki could be used between the preamp out and power amp input??? I do this with an NAD integrated (326BEE).
I want this. But I already have powered speakers. If I were to change those out, I'd be looking at this product for sure.
Another great review guys and one I've been looking forward to. I think you may even be first to review the new Audiolab 7000A. I have a question, perhaps you can answer. From a purely audio quality perspective, does the 6000A and 7000A sound pretty much the same? And is the 6000A discontinued or does it remain in the product lineup. Thanks for any clarification on this that you can provide. Thx again.
As someone who prefers to keep digital sources separate from my analogue sources I went for 8300 series gear, which is unfortunately now consigned to a footnote in Audiolab's history; according to a couple of guys I know in the industry.
If I wasn't bothered about having analogue and digital in one chassis then I would probably go for the 7000A as I feel that it offers better value overall in comparison to the 9000A, but at the end of the day this is a mute point personally because I'm more than happy with my 8300 series gear and I can't see me changing them for a very long time...if ever.
Andrew, have you ever heard the 8300 series gear? you really should as there are bound to be bargains going now that the 7000 and 9000 series are out.
I realydo not get why nobady compares 8300 against 7000. The forst one has xlr inputs, higher current capability, but I would like to know how do they compare soundvise as I read that 8300 has extnded trable and a bit different sound character and I am afraid of trable a bit. What is yor experience, can be 8300 too trabely?
I recently purchased a pair of PSB T600's for 3700$. Currently running them on my old Emotiva UMC-1 and XPA-5 gen 1 combo. The soundstage, with some music, is very very good. But I feel like the PSB's has much more potential. After watching your reviews of the PSB's and all the audiolab integrated amps, I am very much considering a 7000A. Considering how you praised the 6000A in your initial PSB T600 review, this seems like a great fit, right?
You hit on the nail, at least when it comes to my take on Audiolab products. I've been interested in their gear and almost bought the 6000 a, but the lack of tone controls kept me from doing so.
I would like to know more of your take on your experiment with the minidsp. I'm wondering if the a/d to d/a process in the minidsp changes the sound/quality of the Audiolab. I don't if you remember but I asked something similar during the last live chat you guys had. Except, I want to use a minidsp flex. I know the flex is its own thing but I hear it has higher-performing circuitry than the standard minidsp and I want it to be as transparent to my Mac as possible. My plan would be to ignore the flex's volume control and use it like a normal minidsp 2x4 HD.
By the way, that pre/power mode is a cool feature. You don't see that too often. Similar to the pre-out/ amp in jumpers on my Mcintosh and Outlaw RR2160 MKlI, a feature that makes these units so flexible. I find that I want more than just tone controls, I want granular frequency controls. Until they start putting parametric eq in integrateds, I need pre-outs/main ins or at the very least pre-outs to into a DSP unit and then into a power amp.
QOTD: Yes it does seem the 7000a is the budget king to beat. After watching the review, that's a real punch in the nuts I can't get HDMI on the 9000 but I can on the 7000. Sigh. Such a tease Audiolab. Such a tease. That said, the 7000 looks fantastic. I'm hoping you all will also do the 8300 review! 😉
1800$ is considered a “budget” 2-channel amplifier these days? I’d call it upper mid-fi approaching 2 grand. I consider the 500-1000$ price category mid-fi for 2-channel amplification, and under 500$ to be budget category.
You scream "HDMI", I scream "MAIN IN". Congratulations AudioLab. 🔈🔉🔊
"mono" or "bridge" mode switch...........................
Now just add that to the "main in" section & offer a separate duplicate specification power amp. Like the Iota PA3 implementation. That would be the versatility every integrated should have.
The bonus is now effectively running monoblocks easily & most economically. Plus, presumably, the manufacturer has the ultimate advantage over any competitor for the upgrade. 🔈🔉🔊
Great video, thank you! I loved that you liked the Audiolab.. to be honest, it is one of the brands I noticed from very early years.. I 1st saw them when I was 20+something.. In a UK hi fi magazine and the designing outside (and inside) impressed me. I said, Wow, this is how an amplifier must be! 😀
Soon i had the chance to see and hear it from close, and it didn't disappointed me at all.. The perceived quality was high, the feeling when using it, excellent.. (especially these 2 classic knobs for input selection and volume control) which I still love seeing them on products, and the sound! Nice work, keep going! 😀
I chuckled a bit at “power-lab” 😂 ahhh the fun moments of the video. 🎉🎉😂
Yes. at around the 18 min mark, Andrew was announcing the merger no one knew was happening. lol
Hello Andrew!
Thank you for your high quality review!!
I got a question about Amp
I wish to choice best Amp for me.
Audiolab 7000a / NAD c399 / marantz 40n are my choice.
I am using Smart TV for music sauce. Streming is not necessary. But it is better with striming.
Which one is better to me between 7000a and c399 and 40n?
My speaker is Monitoraudio gold 100
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Ooooo, LOVE the idea of looping in a MiniDSP unit! Great catch! That combo is likely one of the top values in integrated amps anywhere close to that price!
As always, another great review and great insight! Happy Sunday and keep ‘em coming!
Thank you Andrew and Kristi for your review. I will be buying a new amp down the road to replace my old Denon. The review helped mske my decision much easier. Thanks🌞
I do love their products. I’m hoping for a review of the 8300. If not, is it worth the buy and use my 6000a play as a pre with KLH model5’s? My gut tells me that would be great.
The 8300 is a brilliant stereo amp.
Finally decided to go with this amp.
I have no idea what speaker plugs will fit the binding posts.
Amazon Basics banana plugs are not stable at all.
I'd love to see a video on the tone control workaround. That's kind of the only thing holding me back on buying the 7000A.
The possibility to add an EQ or DSP is not a unique feature of the Audiolab, there are even pretty old amps that offer this. So, it is as simple as it gets, you can just add it as mentioned in the vid (Pre out - EQ - Power In).
The Dirac part is of course a bit more complex, but there are many guides available online. Just search for Dirac + hifi. If you add a miniDSP 2x4 you can even add a Sub, adjust the crossover, and use room correction. Pretty cool.
At 13:20 Andrew confirms the in/out loop works. DSP, Equalizer...
I know it isn't true, but I feel like questions I've been asking you via several platforms regarding receivers/integrated with HDMI has been answered - many thanks!
One question though - from a practical perspective, do I need to interact with the 7000a directly when I've hooked up a streaming device? For example, I feel like listening to some Miles Davis or Taylor Swift via Tidal/Apple Music, do I need to interact with both the streamer and the Audiolab to get my music going - or would this, much as with TV playback with ARC, go automatically? Does the Audiolab 'sense' input, and change channels accordingly?
Will audition (if possible) regardless for sound, but for day-to-day usage within a family setting, this could be a make-or-break it situation (in favor of an AVR or Powernode).
I have audiolab 7000A at home preparing to send it back ! Is a pain to use it ...but it sounds nice! U always need to stay with the remote in your hand ...u can't control volume from an app ...doesn't auto change source !
@Ovidiu N. Your remarks are only partially accurate. If you have the 7000A connected to your TV using an HDMI cable, then you need to make sure that CEC is turned on inside your TV's menu as well inside the amp's menu in order for the Audiolab to turn on and off automatically with your TV. This also enables your TV remote to control the volume on the Audiolab. In our case, we used the Apple TV remote to control the TV and the Audiolab (power and volume/mute - in integrated mode). If you are listening to an analog source and you were to hit volume or a button on your TV's remote, the Audiolab should switch to its HDMI input automatically. That said you are correct, the 7000A does not automatically switch between its analog or digital inputs. Doing this requires you to use the 7000A's included remote. This is not uncommon. There are very few products that have auto sensing on all inputs. Now you may find a product that will turn "on" when it senses a signal for the first time but that is not the same as what you are expecting or faulting the Audiolab for.
hmm for this price, might just add a little and go for NAD C 3050, but then it's quite some money to spend there...
Like you, I’d prefer to have an integrated over tons of boxes and wires. I’m wondering how a 7000a would compare to my current setup…Emotiva DC-1 preamp/dac, emotiva xpa-1L mono blocks, driving Sonus Faber Lumina V? Would the 7000a give me the same or better performance without as much clutter? If not, would going to the 9000 get me there? Separation is really important to me, I love hearing all the different layers
Dear Andrew, which one do you prefer out of the 2 >> Roksan Attessa or Audiolab 7000? :)
This is a very good question
Your thoughts on the Rotel's ? The 12 or 14 both below 2 grand vs the 7000?
Hello the wife and myself watch all your reviews and they are great
Have just purchased the Audiolab 7000a and wow the sound quality is amazing . Have used Technics amps before but this is a different league
Have the 7000a with B&W 601 original ones from the early 90s and Fluance RT85N plus the Sony Haps and all sound great.
Hi. Is it possible to turn led display off while music is playing? Tnx
@@marko-182nope just use some black electric tape over the led if it bothers you
Who would say this stuff is better than similar EMOTIVA stuff?
I'm interested and looking for Pre amp with Aptek Blootoof and maybe an internal DAC
Emotivas has an FM tuner, which is nice, but I don't really need it.
A fantastic review. I'm going to replace my Rega Brio with the Audiolab 7000a at some point this year due to recently getting into streaming at home via a CA CXNv2.
The last amp I had with tone controls was the NAD C320 BEE (lasted me twenty years) and then I used the Source Direct button to bypass them.
Can I ask if you tried the headphone amp on the 7000A?
I did not try the headphone amp as I just don't use them.
I've tried the headphone amp on the 6000a and it's lack luster. I think they add headphone jacks just for the spec sheet but realistically, if you are an audiophile, you are going to want a dedicated headphone amp.
7000 worth auditioning with a Rega Elex Mk 4 - about £100 ( 115 USD) more in UK. Although I know US market can be more expensive with UK centric hi Fi
@@bearclaw5115 I guess it's a case of trying headphone outputs on other amplifiers with a reputable dealer alongside a dedicated headphone amplifier
Then weighing up the combined cost vs the one box Intergrated options 👍
Thanks to you both for this excellent review, for the hack tip and for the comps to a wide range of options. I had been waiting for it. You mentioned preferring something other than Play-Fi for streaming & in the comments mention a few options (1 link didn't work). Could touch on if that means bypassing the 7000A's DAC & if there is a streamer that best compliments the Audiolab sound profile? Will be a new to streaming user.
I just purchased the 7000A and a Bluesound Node. Haven't hooked them up, yet, but looking forward to some fabulous sounding streaming music!
I have a Marantz Cinema 50 paired with 4 KEF R3s (and a KF92 sub) and anyone saying a high end AVR can't excel at 2 channel is delusional. Playing stereo on my system sounds pretty amazing with fantastic detail and an otherworldly soundstage.
Why is everyone delusional that doesn't share your opinion? My HT system is a pretty big step up from what you have, and I have some 2 channel gear that's less expensive and sounds better than my HT system. Should I now call you delusional?
@@AT-wl9yq I've noticed the strawman you're asserting here. You said "don't share your opinion" when I said those who said an AVR "couldn't excel" are delusional.
I never said you and I have to agree it sounds great. My point was there is no evidence an AVR can't do the job just as well. It's the same tech - there's nothing magically different between a 2 channel amp and a 5 channel amp.
You're free to FEEL however you want however any assertion that this is some fundamental flaw with AVRs in 2 channel playback isn't supported by any evidence.
It's a religion and I wouldn't dream of dispossessing you of it . . .
@@pcfreakx I was just going by what you said. Lets have another look at it.
"and anyone saying a high end AVR can't excel at 2 channel is delusional."
That's your opinion, but you state it as fact. I really don't care about all your BS with a strawman argument. People like you always find ways to justify your opinions as fact.
As good as my HT gear is, it pales in comparison to well designed, purpose built 2 channel gear that costs much less. So, if you want to talk yourself into how good your HT sounds on 2 channel material, fine. You have every right to do so. But don't call me delusional because I don't see things your way.
Hello, just curious here... how would you compare the Audiolab 7000a with the Heaven 11 Billie MkI you reviewed a number of years back?
Great review! I have been searching for the best way to upgrade my system and this amp and the 7000N streamer looks like a really interesting combo!
I ordered the 7000A, very excited, albeit I have to wait before it'll be available for delivery. Pairing it with the Monitor Audio silver 200 7G and Bluesound Node 2i streamer transport. Have obviously not heard that combination yet but very confident I will be seriously happy in my listening room (which is a semi-small living room).
@@JustBrowsing777 tell us when you have listened! And compare it to what you have now please....
@@thepuma2012 Sure, will do 🙂
How would you compare this to thr musical fidelity m5/m6?
I *always* wanted HDMI. Like forever! Not only do I want HDMI, I’ve been hunting for a headphone amp that will peel off the audio, give me the full surround sound codec simulated in two channel headphones, and pass the full 4K 120hz Dolby Vision/HDR/++ video to my TV. If anyone doubts that this is possible, my old Denon AVR which was from the 2K generation would give me the lossless audio codecs through the headphone jack. Don’t know which DAC chip they were using but it was awesome. My current generation Marantz SR8015 doesn’t do what its older cousin the Denon did. Rookie mistake on my part for not demoing the AVR before purchasing. Just this week I took my Sennheiser HD800S and demoed one of Yamaha’s top shelf Aventage AVRs. Yamaha was my second choice when I purchased my old Denon. I can tell you that Yamaha does not overlook the headphone output. The “enhanced” and the “AI” functions work through headphones and is bangin! I might have to sell my Marantz and get the Yamaha…. But that’s not financially realistic so I’m still on the hunt for a middleware solution.
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I have a Rotel 980bx from the 90s.
If I want more detail, better imaging etc.
Should I buy musical fidelity, Audiolab or another amp? I want the best integrated amp for under $5,000. Thank you!
Hi! Can somebody explain to me the Dirac hack? I didn’t quite understand it in the video! Thanks
Thank you for a different take on audio reviews, Andrew and Kristi! I am curious: you just recently reviewed Parasound products as well. How do the latest AudioLab products compare to something like Parasound's A23 or A23+? (At least in your opinion, of course!)
They are comparable however, A23/+ is just an amp. You would need to invest in a preamp like this one bit.ly/3FVe9JF, however even then you still would be lacking some of the functionality the Audiolab provides. The Parasound will give you more power should you need it. I like Parasound products and have owned them in the past. Some may feel they're brighter than the Audiolab.
What is the benefit of HDMI ARC over just using an optical cable from the tv to the amp or streamer? I like technology so not against it just don’t understand what it brings over existing technology, look forward to your response and thanks for the great content
You can control the volume from the TV hdmi it can also carry more channels at a higher bit rate, optical tops out at 24bit 192khz which is plenty for most
Really good explanation, I like your advice on other aspects of HIFI too. Did you ever test your miniDSP/Dirac idea with a subwoofer or two. Could it also work with the 9000a and Cambridge Audio 81 as well? I am out of date with HIFI advances over the past 30 years so I am hunting for speakers that are particularly good for classical piano, jazz and vocals. Any recommendations? I have seen the amphion argon range, how do you rate them? Anything would be better than my ancient budget system and allowing for inflation much cheaper too. I am retired and vividly aware of technological improvement and relatively decreasing costs but for something like the amphions I am very far from a dealer and reviews help me decide if city break audition is worth it and because few dealers stock a wide range of competing speakers and compatible amps then a visit requires researching dealers too.
Im one of the few who dont want digital in my integrated since it’s usually a compromise. Its better to spend that money on making the amp better. On the other hand I think having sub outs is very important.
Not only that, but there is no Analogue mode to shut off the DAC when not in use. I don't like them in CD players either.
THANKFULLY,YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE as audiophile reviewer’s,…you and KRISTI can enjoy the best of both worlds 🤗😎💚💚💚
¡Gracias!
I am a happy owner of the 6000A, thanks for your review on it!!! that caused to pull the trigger, I'm glad I could purchase it from Amazon UK (yes that is right) because in Mexico it is toooooo expensive and very hard to find. I'm using it with Triangles Comete 40th Anniversary and Topping E70 Velvet DAC, it is incredible even using optical from TV I feel the concerts ambiance, like in front of the artist and people behind whispering, very sublime type of sound that I enjoy too much. I think Triangles can offer more so when I saw the 7000A it became the first choice to "upgrade" but, not a secret, all the similarity it has with the 6000A and because there are just a few reviews of it has prevented me to take the decision. I just wish the 6000A has a little more sparkle on the top end (you car hear the drum plates but somewhat shy) and a little more depth, do you think the 7000A can give me that? Really appreciate any comment. Best regards.
The 7000A is an upgrade over the 6000A, but it's more incremental rather than dramatic. Everything is going to be a little more refined but not outright different or wholly new. Will this result in brighter highs? Not likely, though detail, instrument separation and low level listening as well as bass control will marginally improve with the 7000A compared to the 6000A. Hope this helps. Thanks for your support!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews that helps for sure because that means 7000A is a safe bet for me as I don't want to lose anything from the 6000A but improve it. Thank you!!!
Demo'd this with the Monitor Audio Silver 100 and loved it. Just wish it has airplay 😩
Great review as always. How would you compare the 7000 to the Leak 130 or 230?
I Have monitor audio RX silver speakers ( for now) like them a lot. looking for a new amp and would like an all in one experience or streamer as separate part. How would would you place the audilab 7000a vs Cambridge cxa81 vs Marantz stereo 70 ? Best regards, nicholas
Thanks for the review, Andrew, Kristi! I want to try this amplifier with a WiiM Pro streamer (with 10-band software EQ) and various speakers. Andrew: also thanks for the testing the out and in for an EQ ---that addition would preclude a subwoofer however.
Comments:
1. I have no idea who goes for the NAD product right now because what I've heard from their hybrid digital amps was the WORST experience with any amplifier I've tested --including compared to their own Blusound Powernode. Who likes sloppy bass? Who does the NAD work for? Very weird.
2. Marantz is too dark/soft and lacks the punch of the AXR100. I am sure the Audiolab has a good chance at sounding better for my use than both of these, one for tone/EQ and less distortion than the Cambridge.
3. I currently use the Blusound Powernode 80-watt unit and it's still too dark/soft and lame/characterless. You will find it lacking if you listen to rock ensembles or metal music.
4. I don't have the budget to step up to $3000+ amps like Exposure, Hegel and top tier/Flagship units from any brand; the 7000A seems like a happy compromise.
Love the design. When I have to replace my Sansui SAP-201V, It will shurely be on my shortlist of contenters.
Good comparison, please, between Audiolab 7000A and Atoll IN200. It will help me a lot to buy one of them. Thank you😊
Hey!
Very good review as always! Can you tell more about room correction , and would it work with 6000a too? I'm very courius about it. Cheers from Poland!
Great comparison between the Audio Lab and Powernode! I was waiting for that comparison. Thank you so much! Especially for powering the R700.
I got you, DaWayne! :)
Glad you found the review helpful, and thanks for watching through to the end.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Always! I look forward to Sundays with you all. 👍
@@KristiWright 😂 Thank you!
I like the way you think. It would be nice to throw in a Schiit Lokius, but would need L/R ins and outs.
You guys do such a great job. Thank you for all your hard work!
Our pleasure!
Good job 👏 love your reviews as always keep on reviewing!!!! I wanted to listen to Audiolab equipment but haven’t so truly I can’t say anything about their stuff but one day I will .
For a nice standmount speaker pairing.. How would you recommend sub integration if only using the 7000a?
Once again awesome thorough review.
If you already have a two channel receiver you can ad a black box to get 5.1, 7.1 surround. It also has ARC, digital coax, optical to get old receivers there. A cheaper way to go .