if one track is moving and turning, it's called a pivot steer. but if TWO tracks are moving opposite to each other, it's called neutral. we can clearly see the abrams steers its tank with two tracks running oppositely, so it called a neutral steer (sorry if my english is bad, im not a native english speaker)
A neutral pivot is when both tracks turn at the same rate but in opposite directions, causing the vehicle to turn without movie away from the dentral axis of that turn. When only one track turns (and the other remains fixed) it's a skid steer.
no that's good english, and almost completely correct. the false part is saying that it steers with both tracks, not entirely, if it is in neutral, like it is here, it is both. but at this point i'd just direct you to engineering vids.
I started on 60A3s and was on M1s for several years after that and many of us still called it neutral steer even though pivot was the correct term -- old habits
@@9995-q1u To this day, the doctrinal manual still refers to it as neutral steer. (See TC 3-21.60 of 2017). The point of confusion is that with modern transmissions, the selector must be placed in a purpose-designed location, and since "Neutral" was already taken by... well.. neutral, the designers decided to call that position 'pivot'. It wasn't as if it was going to cause confusion with the pivot steer handles such as found on M113s, as the M113s themselves got upgraded with new transmissions.
Hell, we did it way quicker than that when I was in W Germany in the 2/2 ACR coming up to the QRS site in Bamberg. It was an almost 180 deg turn and we got it down to an art to do it w/o stopping pretty much. Hell, I drifted my Abrams going around one of the corners coming back from the QRS once. I thought it was awesome, the guy in the TC's hatch not so much. LOL! Miss those days, a lot of memories while stationed in W Germany. Toujours Pret!
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A cat bulldozer does the same thing except you press on the brake for the track you want to stop and the opposite track will turn. You can easily do a 360° turn forward or backward.
That's not a neutral pivot. A neutral pivot is when the tracks turn in opposite directions at an identical rate so the vehicle revolves around a fixed _central_ axis. Skid steering causes a vehicle to veer around the axis of the locked track, making a wide(r) turn.
DATs call it a Neutral Steer, not pivot. It's because you have to put the transmission in Neutral Gear to do it. The laud bang is possibly another tank firing. It's hard to be sure, the guy on the turret with the TC could be a range officer, the green flag on top looks like it means the tank is cleared for moving to the firing line to begin a table. Now I was a 12F, modified M60A3 for combat engineer work, and although we did have a 165mm main gun, we didn't do tank qualification in the same way the tankers did. I was looking for a barrel for the .50cal, most gunner ranges would have targets for the .50 but I didn't see it from these angles. I am wondering what's up with the ladder strapped to the turret?
@@anthonyisraelson8208 Maybe in other country's army's they call it pivot steer, but the US Army, they Army I'm retired from, our tankers (DATs, Dumb Assed Tankers), call it Neutral Steer. Now if there are some DATs using slang then be my guest, I really don't give a damned. But the only proper term is Neutral Steer. Do I need to point i tout to you from an FM?
@@anthonyisraelson8208 So, I think we are suffering from a difference in age and equipment. A little investigating shows that we are both correct. For the US Army, prior to the M1 Abrams, the M60 series the transmission had to be placed in Neutral and the term was Neutral Steer. But with the M1, a new transmission, the Abrams would damage it's transmission if the driver tried steering the vehicle while the transmission was in Neutral, and in order to do a Pivot Steer there is a special gear marked P for Pivot that is used. I never served on M1s, and although the US Army manuals, even for older M60s have all been changed to Pivot, this was made necessary because of the M1. The term had to be standardized and therefor, you are correct for current terminology even for old tanks like the ones I served on. I was actually a 12F and served on M728 Combat Engineer Vehicles which were modified M60s. I think I posted previously, was a bit snarky, please forgive me for that, I can't seem to find the post to edit it and had to make a new post.
@@anthonyisraelson8208 197th Mech Inf Bde, both 2/69 Armor and 72nd Eng Co. Kelly Hill, Ft Benning, '95-'98. The rest of my 16 years up until retirement in '98 was M.I.
@@kilmentvoroshilov2827 They've already disbanded some divisions. They want to basically open up for more tech, and less infantry by 2030. So again, they did disband them.
If you think that's something, they mostly will never get off it unless they just have to. They will sleep on/in it even though they aren't supposed to, they cook and eat on the tank, piss off the tank, some will even shit off it. In the desert, my TC "Tank Commander" insisted on clean underwear, always brought several new plastic bags out and had them stuck in the .50cal ammo tray. He'd usually change them while we were moving, he'd drop down into the turret, slip out of his boots and drop his pants. The old dirty drawers would go flying up out of the hatch and disappear behind us as he put on his fresh pair, and crawled back up into the cupola for another smoke. Yes, we smoked on the tank too, fuck it.
who needs personal space in a tank? The driver has a nice place for him self. The loader realy has good space, could hold a party there. The gunner at least has a chair for him self, ones he turns around he can stare at the commanders crotch. Fun times :-)
@@piperp9535 that pretty much entirely summed it up when I was a 19k at fort bliss from 16-19. I rarely eft the drivers whole other then to sleep on the front slope when we weren't in high readiness. We had a large desert tan sprayed cooler with ice resupplied to us and we always had a dozen monsters in there, sodas, and Gatorades. I never went out to the field without my tank carrying all my pog bait, drinks, solar and battery packs, cigarette, tons of snacks and soups, and most importantly a 12 pack of monsters. Later in my career, I would bring out whiskey and beer.
To an old 70's tanker like me, that's called a neutral steer.
but there's some pivot but mostly neutral steering is the first 75% of the steering right?
Yep neutral steer and you never do it in sand
...was gonna say the same thing...also an old tanker 28 May '71 - 18 Jul '74 11E HHC 4/35 Armor (Iron Horseman) Illesheim, Germany.
We’re you in the m60A1 tanker
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Sounds like an air raid siren but it's that turbine engine
if one track is moving and turning, it's called a pivot steer. but if TWO tracks are moving opposite to each other, it's called neutral. we can clearly see the abrams steers its tank with two tracks running oppositely, so it called a neutral steer (sorry if my english is bad, im not a native english speaker)
A neutral pivot is when both tracks turn at the same rate but in opposite directions, causing the vehicle to turn without movie away from the dentral axis of that turn. When only one track turns (and the other remains fixed) it's a skid steer.
no that's good english, and almost completely correct. the false part is saying that it steers with both tracks, not entirely, if it is in neutral, like it is here, it is both. but at this point i'd just direct you to engineering vids.
When I was in the Army, on the M60A1, we called that "neutral steer".
I started on 60A3s and was on M1s for several years after that and many of us still called it neutral steer even though pivot was the correct term -- old habits
I mean we call it both
@@9995-q1u To this day, the doctrinal manual still refers to it as neutral steer. (See TC 3-21.60 of 2017). The point of confusion is that with modern transmissions, the selector must be placed in a purpose-designed location, and since "Neutral" was already taken by... well.. neutral, the designers decided to call that position 'pivot'. It wasn't as if it was going to cause confusion with the pivot steer handles such as found on M113s, as the M113s themselves got upgraded with new transmissions.
While I love the M1A1 Abrams, the old M60 and M48 tanks would do the same thing. 360 degrees if you were a "show-off".
.... and like to break track
@@piperp9535 So, I was a kid and didn't know better.
@@thomasbeatty9496 We all were, just remember the stupid things we all did, and mostly got away with
Even some WW2 tanks did...
Lets do a neutral at 10-15+ mph :)
Hell, we did it way quicker than that when I was in W Germany in the 2/2 ACR coming up to the QRS site in Bamberg. It was an almost 180 deg turn and we got it down to an art to do it w/o stopping pretty much. Hell, I drifted my Abrams going around one of the corners coming back from the QRS once. I thought it was awesome, the guy in the TC's hatch not so much. LOL! Miss those days, a lot of memories while stationed in W Germany. Toujours Pret!
Was it cool to be inside an Abrams?
The stepladder on the side is a nice touch, to make it easier to get to the suitcases, when they go away overnight.
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sure, have at it. cheers.
@@YungBuckRobs thank you so much, Samuel :)
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what's the fastest these can pivot on, say, asphalt? just curious
depends on how willing the driver is to throw a track
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What was that bang just before the tank turned? Did an Abrams just have a backfire like an old car?
It's a turbine. They don't backfire o.o
@@MqKosmos What made that bang then?
@@Orca19904 most likely sound from main gun on the range but the transmission does bang when going from neutral but not that loud
Might be another tank firing, didn't sound like it came from the tank being filmed to me.
Just another tank firing IMHO
that's neutral steer, pivot steering is with on track being the pivot.
Nearly as good as a "neutral turn" on the Cheiftain tank......nearly
Yellow stepladder on the side of the tank…
Somehow your's Pivots different from our M1A2s, in the same scenario our right track locks and the left would move
That's not a neutral pivot, it's skid steering.
A cat bulldozer does the same thing except you press on the brake for the track you want to stop and the opposite track will turn. You can easily do a 360° turn forward or backward.
That's not a neutral pivot. A neutral pivot is when the tracks turn in opposite directions at an identical rate so the vehicle revolves around a fixed _central_ axis. Skid steering causes a vehicle to veer around the axis of the locked track, making a wide(r) turn.
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0:39 was this it backfiring?
No, that was another vehicle nearby firing
DATs call it a Neutral Steer, not pivot. It's because you have to put the transmission in Neutral Gear to do it.
The laud bang is possibly another tank firing. It's hard to be sure, the guy on the turret with the TC could be a range officer, the green flag on top looks like it means the tank is cleared for moving to the firing line to begin a table. Now I was a 12F, modified M60A3 for combat engineer work, and although we did have a 165mm main gun, we didn't do tank qualification in the same way the tankers did. I was looking for a barrel for the .50cal, most gunner ranges would have targets for the .50 but I didn't see it from these angles. I am wondering what's up with the ladder strapped to the turret?
It is actually pivot... you’ll notice the tracks move in opposite directions... and yes the loud pop, was a tank on the firing line sending it...
@@anthonyisraelson8208 Maybe in other country's army's they call it pivot steer, but the US Army, they Army I'm retired from, our tankers (DATs, Dumb Assed Tankers), call it Neutral Steer. Now if there are some DATs using slang then be my guest, I really don't give a damned. But the only proper term is Neutral Steer. Do I need to point i tout to you from an FM?
@@anthonyisraelson8208 So, I think we are suffering from a difference in age and equipment. A little investigating shows that we are both correct. For the US Army, prior to the M1 Abrams, the M60 series the transmission had to be placed in Neutral and the term was Neutral Steer. But with the M1, a new transmission, the Abrams would damage it's transmission if the driver tried steering the vehicle while the transmission was in Neutral, and in order to do a Pivot Steer there is a special gear marked P for Pivot that is used. I never served on M1s, and although the US Army manuals, even for older M60s have all been changed to Pivot, this was made necessary because of the M1. The term had to be standardized and therefor, you are correct for current terminology even for old tanks like the ones I served on. I was actually a 12F and served on M728 Combat Engineer Vehicles which were modified M60s.
I think I posted previously, was a bit snarky, please forgive me for that, I can't seem to find the post to edit it and had to make a new post.
@@piperp9535 no worries. My career has been 20+ on M1s, at that tank was my 3rd PLT wingman.
@@anthonyisraelson8208 197th Mech Inf Bde, both 2/69 Armor and 72nd Eng Co. Kelly Hill, Ft Benning, '95-'98. The rest of my 16 years up until retirement in '98 was M.I.
is this a marines abrams and thats why its a m1a1?
The marines disbanded their tank divisions sadly
@@jacobcones2803 not currently but they are planning on doing so
@@kilmentvoroshilov2827 Nope, they've done it already. The decision was made back in March.
F22 Raptor the decision to disband then and give them to the army by 2030 if I’m correct
@@kilmentvoroshilov2827 They've already disbanded some divisions. They want to basically open up for more tech, and less infantry by 2030. So again, they did disband them.
How 4 popple go inside that thing no personal space
If you think that's something, they mostly will never get off it unless they just have to. They will sleep on/in it even though they aren't supposed to, they cook and eat on the tank, piss off the tank, some will even shit off it. In the desert, my TC "Tank Commander" insisted on clean underwear, always brought several new plastic bags out and had them stuck in the .50cal ammo tray. He'd usually change them while we were moving, he'd drop down into the turret, slip out of his boots and drop his pants. The old dirty drawers would go flying up out of the hatch and disappear behind us as he put on his fresh pair, and crawled back up into the cupola for another smoke. Yes, we smoked on the tank too, fuck it.
who needs personal space in a tank?
The driver has a nice place for him self.
The loader realy has good space, could hold a party there.
The gunner at least has a chair for him self, ones he turns around he can stare at the commanders crotch.
Fun times :-)
@@piperp9535 that pretty much entirely summed it up when I was a 19k at fort bliss from 16-19. I rarely eft the drivers whole other then to sleep on the front slope when we weren't in high readiness. We had a large desert tan sprayed cooler with ice resupplied to us and we always had a dozen monsters in there, sodas, and Gatorades. I never went out to the field without my tank carrying all my pog bait, drinks, solar and battery packs, cigarette, tons of snacks and soups, and most importantly a 12 pack of monsters. Later in my career, I would bring out whiskey and beer.
@@piperp9535 "Death Before Dismount" Old tanker here, 2/64 Armor.
Rubbish
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