"Keymo doesnt work" cries the redditer as he sends a baffle strike down range despite his can doing the weeble wobble which any normal person would find to be suspect.
@Glatisant_galla how could they have made it any easier? I'm not being a jerk, I'm asking a serious question? I've spent years with Dead Air suppressors and I'm an idiot 😆
Perfect. I picked up my Dead Air cans a week ago today this is good info to know. I have a Sandman L and Dead Air Mask. I really like both of them. It took 9 months for the form 4 to be approved. It came faster than I thought it would.
KeyMo just came in the mail today!! waiting on my flash hider devices, should be here tomorrow. Ive had my Primal just sitting in my safe the past 3 months. almost time to let er eat!
Been running my sandman s for about a year now. Absolutely fantastic product. Whether it's on SBR 556 or 20" 556, sbr 308 or 24" .308, it just works. Waiting for my ghost m .45 3lug QD guys! Please hook a brotha up!
"30 day eForms. Its electronic so we will spend less time inputting information and has less inaccuracies"-says the ATF, taking a 12 month coffee break.
Can confirm keymo stays tight even if the detent ring is worn down. Only have one sandman that I move around 7 different guns. Wore it out in about 6 months, I hit up dead air they sent 2 new ones fast no questions asked.
Thanks for the video. My Primal should come home next month. Any plan for a 5/8x32 muzzle brake / flash hider 45cal. ? My 450 bushmaster upper is threaded with this odd pitch and I can’t find anybody who make 5/8x32 Keymo muzzle attachment😢
Waiting for a diligent defense can to get out of jail. I will definitely be running the keymo system on it as that’s what my other cans are, super simple yet really effective system. Keep up the great work Mike. Waiting for titanium sandman series to come out.
Mike, love your KeyMo system and have it on my can, but there are SO MANY thread pitches out there that you don't offer, what are the chances of getting FH or brakes with other pitches like M16x1LH or 11/16-24, maybe 5/8-32, none of which are available now. I guess I could buy 1/2-28 adapters and have a shop drill them out and tap them but that seems like a good way to encourage baffle strikes if it's not done well...
Is there a way to do this without the wrenches, neither may Sandman L or Wolfman came with wrenches and i am waiting for you to get them back in stock. Thanks
Daniel Defense .300 DDM4 PDW with Nomad 30 - which muzzle device and mounting system would you recommend? KeyMo + Keymo Brake or Keymo + KeyMo flash hider or Xeno system? Can pretty much lives on the 300, home / zombie defense
I bought a sierra 5 a few days ago and wish I saw this video before. New from DA the mount wasn’t timed correctly and was lose when the collar locked down which caused a baffle strike. I sent it back to DA hoping they can fix it!
I wish my sandman made that satisfying ratcheting clicks. Mine actually never clicked out of the box. Plus, my guide lugs and locking lugs don't line up. When fully opened it won't come off the mount without turning the collar 1 notch closed. It's like 3/4 of a notch off.
I’m having issues, every muzzle device I’ve recieved from dead air hasn’t been able to fit into the sandman. The only muzzle that fits is the 3 prong flash hider it came with. I ordered a new/same type and did not fit. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated 👍
Could be a couple things, so It will be hard to troubleshoot in a comment. Definitely send an email to info@deadairsilencers.com and our guys can help you get that figured out.
I wish you would go into exactly how tight the suppressor needs to be. I’ve had a baffle strike before, so I tighten it as best I can, but now I have to use the wrench every time to take it off.
This thing drove me crazy until I found this video. Someone, gun shop, somewhere else in the food chain, had tightened it as far as it would go, and the lugs on the interior and exterior were lined up nicely but I couldn’t get the thing to go on for what is now an obvious reason
My omega keymo does not fit on my DA101 muzzle break. It fits just fine on my DA102 muzzle brake. I understand there were some quality issues with a new manufacturing partner a while ago. I am assuming that my DA 101 muzzle brake was affected by this. I submitted the contact form to DA customer service, but I have not received a response. I would appreciate it if you guys could get back to me and resolve the issue.
I haven't got my DDM4 mk18 r3 yet but if my rail is 9.5" and my barrel is 10.3" and If i put the nomad 30 on it using the direct thread or the dead air kemo flash hdr does anyone know if it would sit flush with my rail? Any comments would be really helpful and appreciated..I'm doing a ton of research and wanna get the right setup
Got my Sierra 5 coming can’t wait .. sold my Banish 30 Gold (way over priced) and was able to get a Sierra and a Sandman WTF?!! Do yourself a favor and go with dead air from the start
I have a brand new sandman s, I put it on and struggling to take it off lol. Never shot. I have to line up the tabs all the way to the stop position and then also the notches correct? I’m sure I just got bitch hands
Man I bought a wolverine and a wolfman and this still haven't been approved. And the wolverine is 14 months and that as papper form and the wolfman was eform and that's been 8-9 months
Broke my weld on my muzzle because I reamed on the adapter the wrong guy way. Time to get it rewelded and learn from my mistake after watching the video 🤦♂️
@@sandervanduren2779That's because government sucks at almost everything it does. Most government employees (and I mean MOST) have just a bit above a room temperature IQ (but usually low-average at best) and generally have quirky/weird personalities in some way or another. I've consulted at both the state and federal level at several different agencies for extended periods of time and have experienced a large cross section of these folks. So it is no surprise the extremely poor performance that results. Think about it. The bottom 20% of the population need to work somewhere, right? Did you ever wonder where most of those folks end up? Yup.
@@sandervanduren2779My dealer said the ATF approvals were coming back in 90-100 days when they first started reforms. But then after just a few months, the times began getting much longer quickly and now running 10-12 months
I just picked up mine on Saturday after a 10 month wait and it is damaged. No rounds through it. It will not go on. Tried it on several muzzle devices. A teeth doesn't seem to align and looks worn or broken. I did send an email to cust support.
Timing is shimming with paper thin washers as needed to bring your keymo compensator or flash hider to a top dead center when tight, if u will. I time my flash hiders too, so when I go to attach my suppressor, it's in the same position no matter what gun I put it on. With the keymo system,the suppressor will only go on the muzzle device one way.
Please check out our video on Keymo Explanation: ua-cam.com/video/1w9DVYZ0P6M/v-deo.htmlsi=gUH5Zl1xZPJvFfZE Those tips will help you get that fixed up immediately.
Do they make keymo fake supressors? Jakl with penned and welded jmac muzzle device is keymo compatible, looking for a fake supressor while i wait for the alphabet boys
"This is 1 and 3/8, obviously". Really tired of hearing 'obviously' used as a filler word in this manner. There is nothing obvious about it - you cannot tell by glancing at it, and you didn't explain that it was previously.
1.375"x24 is the industry standard universal, or HUB, thread size. Every manufacture (except for surefire, because govt contracts) uses it on their rifle cans.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz sure I understand, but it's not a given that every single person knows this. I have cans myself and was unaware. My point is if you're making an instructional video on what people 'need to know', take a bit of time to explain instead of saying something is "obvious", or at least just try not to assume something is obvious to the audience.
“You can put a little thread locker on there, if you like.. whatever makes you happy”
Lol some big Bob Ross vibes there ❤
he sounds more like that old guy in family guy who tries to do weird things to Chris 😂
Mike, the ratchet sound is what we live for!!
Dude seems like someone to chill and learn from. Making happy little suppressors
You're running this operation in the way like you're really in love with it, which is awesome~!
Ive seen a ton of reddit kids mess this up and have baffle strikes. Nice to see Mike back in action and explaining how to not mess this up. Cheers
I’ve watched Pappas present this info probably 5 times and it never gets old. Rewatch a couple times and you’ll learn something new every time.
Mike dropping the knowledge we didn’t know we needed. Thx! I had no idea you could break down your keymo for detailed cleaning.
So many that need to watch this video BEFORE whining about the system.
"Keymo doesnt work" cries the redditer as he sends a baffle strike down range despite his can doing the weeble wobble which any normal person would find to be suspect.
@Glatisant_galla how could they have made it any easier? I'm not being a jerk, I'm asking a serious question? I've spent years with Dead Air suppressors and I'm an idiot 😆
Just got approved and picked up my first suppressor today, a Sandman L! Can't wait to try it out!
These are so good for us new owners. Really appreciate it.
Perfect. I picked up my Dead Air cans a week ago today this is good info to know. I have a Sandman L and Dead Air Mask. I really like both of them. It took 9 months for the form 4 to be approved. It came faster than I thought it would.
Mr. Pappas we appreciate all you do.
Love Mike, you guys make great products. Never stop!
This guy is like the Bob Ross of suppressors. Thanks for the tips!
KeyMo just came in the mail today!! waiting on my flash hider devices, should be here tomorrow. Ive had my Primal just sitting in my safe the past 3 months. almost time to let er eat!
Been running my sandman s for about a year now. Absolutely fantastic product. Whether it's on SBR 556 or 20" 556, sbr 308 or 24" .308, it just works. Waiting for my ghost m .45 3lug QD guys! Please hook a brotha up!
If only the alphabet agency will hurry up and approve the pending stamps
256 days and counting here
Seriously. I have 3 on wait. Almost been 10months since I registered the 1st one. Hurry the F up
"30 day eForms. Its electronic so we will spend less time inputting information and has less inaccuracies"-says the ATF, taking a 12 month coffee break.
297 days and counting
they’re so effing lazy…
Pappas and Dead Air are the best! Can't wait to see what comes next in 2023!
Very nice. Thanks for the info. Got my first suppressor, a Sierra 5 Keymo, on the way right now!
Can confirm keymo stays tight even if the detent ring is worn down. Only have one sandman that I move around 7 different guns. Wore it out in about 6 months, I hit up dead air they sent 2 new ones fast no questions asked.
Thanks for the video.
My Primal should come home next month.
Any plan for a 5/8x32 muzzle brake / flash hider 45cal. ?
My 450 bushmaster upper is threaded with this odd pitch and I can’t find anybody who make 5/8x32 Keymo muzzle attachment😢
Jmac customs
Waiting for a diligent defense can to get out of jail. I will definitely be running the keymo system on it as that’s what my other cans are, super simple yet really effective system. Keep up the great work Mike. Waiting for titanium sandman series to come out.
First! I can't wait to use mine. Been waiting almost 400 days!
Sorry to hear that...much too long!
Mike, love your KeyMo system and have it on my can, but there are SO MANY thread pitches out there that you don't offer, what are the chances of getting FH or brakes with other pitches like M16x1LH or 11/16-24, maybe 5/8-32, none of which are available now. I guess I could buy 1/2-28 adapters and have a shop drill them out and tap them but that seems like a good way to encourage baffle strikes if it's not done well...
This is one of the coolest dudes...
Damn you guys, I couldn't decide what to get so I bought 4 on my last visit... Thinking I should just get the rest of the catalog at this point 😂
Question please... Will this Keymo system fit on any muzzel break?🤔
I have the - Gamma 7.62 VG6 muzzle brake
Your cans are awesome. I have a Sandman L on my AR (yes, I know...)
Got to like the mans delivery.
Is there a way to do this without the wrenches, neither may Sandman L or Wolfman came with wrenches and i am waiting for you to get them back in stock. Thanks
Daniel Defense .300 DDM4 PDW with Nomad 30 - which muzzle device and mounting system would you recommend? KeyMo + Keymo Brake or Keymo + KeyMo flash hider or Xeno system? Can pretty much lives on the 300, home / zombie defense
I bought a sierra 5 a few days ago and wish I saw this video before. New from DA the mount wasn’t timed correctly and was lose when the collar locked down which caused a baffle strike. I sent it back to DA hoping they can fix it!
Did they fix it yet?
@@Abyssdiver They did. It took 199 days but they did get it fixed!
@@wjmfilms7003 Dang that's a wait! I am crossing my fingers I get a good one.
I wish my sandman made that satisfying ratcheting clicks. Mine actually never clicked out of the box. Plus, my guide lugs and locking lugs don't line up. When fully opened it won't come off the mount without turning the collar 1 notch closed. It's like 3/4 of a notch off.
Mike really reminds me of the Bob Ross of firearms. Great salt of the earth type of guy.
I just got my Wolfman out of NFA Jail. It is SO AMAZING!!!😃 I CAN'T WAIT to get the Sandman S, Mask, Primal, and Sierra.
Show adding the Keymo mount to the Nomad with the wrenches provided. What wrench are you using?
I’m having issues, every muzzle device I’ve recieved from dead air hasn’t been able to fit into the sandman. The only muzzle that fits is the 3 prong flash hider it came with. I ordered a new/same type and did not fit. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated 👍
Could be a couple things, so It will be hard to troubleshoot in a comment. Definitely send an email to info@deadairsilencers.com and our guys can help you get that figured out.
Bought a keymo from a store the other day and it wasn’t in time when I got it. Took a minute but figured it out
The spanners seem to always be out of stock, any word on when they might get in again?
I would think that it would come with the can
I just like Mike. I'll buy whatever he's selling.
The Bob Ross of silencers 😊
I wish you would go into exactly how tight the suppressor needs to be. I’ve had a baffle strike before, so I tighten it as best I can, but now I have to use the wrench every time to take it off.
Is there anything wrong with leaving your suppressor on your rifle for long periods. I have a wolf man mounted on a banshee 9mm...
when tightening suppressor onto muzzle device, should it turn a little bit at the end without it ratcheting?
What is the best Universal torque wrench and accessories kit on the market AR2-AR15 ???
This thing drove me crazy until I found this video. Someone, gun shop, somewhere else in the food chain, had tightened it as far as it would go, and the lugs on the interior and exterior were lined up nicely but I couldn’t get the thing to go on for what is now an obvious reason
What Keymo adapter part number fits the sierra 5? I notice there are a few options.
Whichever is the Omega. I wanna say DA429?
This video needs more exposure, maybe add a QR code in the box with any keymo device
This video brought to you by all the baffle strikes on the nfa subreddit
I am enjoying the Bob Ross speaking cadence here.
I have 2 of your keymo's.. working on getting 2 hubs.. then 2 sandman's. 😢.. shits hard in the 24. $$$ wise..
My omega keymo does not fit on my DA101 muzzle break. It fits just fine on my DA102 muzzle brake. I understand there were some quality issues with a new manufacturing partner a while ago. I am assuming that my DA 101 muzzle brake was affected by this. I submitted the contact form to DA customer service, but I have not received a response. I would appreciate it if you guys could get back to me and resolve the issue.
Do your muzzle devices come with shims?
It depends on the thread pitch. If its a shoulder seating device, then yes they do. If its a muzzle seating device, they do not.
Does this keymo work on both 556 and .308 caliber muzzle devices??
Yes. Keymo is basically the external dimensions, there are 22 and 30 cal devices, even 36 cal (9mm) devices.
Please get back in stock
Mike sounds like the Bob Ross of silencers.
“gun hippie”. 😉👍🙌
I haven't got my DDM4 mk18 r3 yet but if my rail is 9.5" and my barrel is 10.3" and If i put the nomad 30 on it using the direct thread or the dead air kemo flash hdr does anyone know if it would sit flush with my rail? Any comments would be really helpful and appreciated..I'm doing a ton of research and wanna get the right setup
I don’t believe it will direct thread on there with that little difference. But I would ask DD; they would know.
Awesome video .
Anyway you can voice over one of them tic tok yoga pants girls showing is how to do it?
Got my Sierra 5 coming can’t wait .. sold my Banish 30 Gold (way over priced) and was able to get a Sierra and a Sandman WTF?!! Do yourself a favor and go with dead air from the start
Is it hard to sell a suppressor? Or do you just sell it to a gun shop?
@@juncho1977 Shocked he was able to sell it. Most people don't want a 2nd hand suppressor considering the wait time and tax stamp don't change.
👊
I have a brand new sandman s, I put it on and struggling to take it off lol. Never shot. I have to line up the tabs all the way to the stop position and then also the notches correct? I’m sure I just got bitch hands
Man I bought a wolverine and a wolfman and this still haven't been approved. And the wolverine is 14 months and that as papper form and the wolfman was eform and that's been 8-9 months
So True
Amazing! It only cost $300 and weighs 15oz for only the adapter and mount! Woah! Revolutionary
Broke my weld on my muzzle because I reamed on the adapter the wrong guy way. Time to get it rewelded and learn from my mistake after watching the video 🤦♂️
It's a nice system, but the price is absolutely insane. There is no way that just the Keymo adapter itself should be $250.
holy fuck that's expensive. glad I went with rearden
The Bob Ross of Death.
Waiting for my Nomad L to get out of jail. Will be adding the Keymo mount to several of my rifles.
How long has yours been in jail? I bought a nomad l 26 weeks ago on an eForm 4 and its still not back
@Sander van Duren Only been 6 weeks! Your news is not encouraging!!
@@fishynut8252 yeah dude it sucks. When the eForm 4’s came out the ATF promised 90 days but obviously that was a lie
@@sandervanduren2779That's because government sucks at almost everything it does. Most government employees (and I mean MOST) have just a bit above a room temperature IQ (but usually low-average at best) and generally have quirky/weird personalities in some way or another. I've consulted at both the state and federal level at several different agencies for extended periods of time and have experienced a large cross section of these folks. So it is no surprise the extremely poor performance that results. Think about it. The bottom 20% of the population need to work somewhere, right? Did you ever wonder where most of those folks end up? Yup.
@@sandervanduren2779My dealer said the ATF approvals were coming back in 90-100 days when they first started reforms. But then after just a few months, the times began getting much longer quickly and now running 10-12 months
All you need to know about keymo is when the big bore threaded xeno mount is coming out??!?!??!?
Is Pappas somehow related to Jack Nicholson?
I finally received my wolfman after a 13 month wait....
Submitted dec 11 2022. Still waiting on those 30 day eForms.
How’d y’all manage to destroy your reputation so fast?
armed and knowledgeable grandpa vibes
Not on my worst day pal!
I just picked up mine on Saturday after a 10 month wait and it is damaged. No rounds through it. It will not go on. Tried it on several muzzle devices. A teeth doesn't seem to align and looks worn or broken. I did send an email to cust support.
How is this adapter compatible with an omega 300? I’m not sure what parts I need to buy with it.
This video really just proves that surefire are the best option for suppressors
Didn't work for me 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Am i the only one that doesnt understand the timing alignment crap?
ua-cam.com/video/1w9DVYZ0P6M/v-deo.htmlsi=hF8dgVxsSVHsYbqR
Timing is shimming with paper thin washers as needed to bring your keymo compensator or flash hider to a top dead center when tight, if u will. I time my flash hiders too, so when I go to attach my suppressor, it's in the same position no matter what gun I put it on. With the keymo system,the suppressor will only go on the muzzle device one way.
ALMOST useful video. The indexing portion was not visible so this ultimately fails as an instructional video. My can wobbles no matter what I do.
Please check out our video on Keymo Explanation:
ua-cam.com/video/1w9DVYZ0P6M/v-deo.htmlsi=gUH5Zl1xZPJvFfZE
Those tips will help you get that fixed up immediately.
Do they make keymo fake supressors? Jakl with penned and welded jmac muzzle device is keymo compatible, looking for a fake supressor while i wait for the alphabet boys
"This is 1 and 3/8, obviously". Really tired of hearing 'obviously' used as a filler word in this manner. There is nothing obvious about it - you cannot tell by glancing at it, and you didn't explain that it was previously.
1.375"x24 is the industry standard universal, or HUB, thread size. Every manufacture (except for surefire, because govt contracts) uses it on their rifle cans.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz sure I understand, but it's not a given that every single person knows this. I have cans myself and was unaware. My point is if you're making an instructional video on what people 'need to know', take a bit of time to explain instead of saying something is "obvious", or at least just try not to assume something is obvious to the audience.
Explained barely anything. As a brand new suppressor user I dont think I learned anything.
Notice them not showing a Sierra 5 or talking about warranties.
What's wrong with the Sierra 5? Or the warranty?