my uncle fought in the Falklands he was a royal engineer and was tasked with demolishing Argentinian defences and mine fields . he said one of the main reasons we won was we had the semi auto FAL but the Argentinian forces had the full auto version and they would shoot full auto all the time from so far away the rounds would fly way above his head he said he felt confident enougth to just stand up while under fire because they couldn't hit the moon from 3ft away let alone hit a still target from 500 to 600ft . our boys are trained to be marksmen they would take time aiming shots . he was tasked with blowing up a weapon and ammo storage site but got a chance to piss about with some of the Argentinian weapons unloading a few mags into a hill on full auto he said the recoil and muzzle climb was Insane . another funny story he told me was his friend getting sent home because his mum jokingly asked him to bring a penguin back being the dumbass he is he tried to grab a penguin not realising they actually have really sharp beaks . the penguin sliced his arm open from elbow to wrist and cut so deep it severed the tendons in his arm . he got discharged because he could no longer hold a gun . another tail was he got called to rescue an Argentinian who had gone for a piss in the night and stumbled into the middle of a mine field. realising his mistake he sat down and waited till morning only to find out his position had been captured in the early hours of the morning and he was now surrounded by amused brits . my uncle had to clear a path through the minefield so he could get out and be captured
Reminds me of the Rhodesian bush war. The Rhodesians captured quite a few enemy AKs and noticed the range on the rear sight dialed to the max on most of them. Upon capturing an enemy fighter, they asked why they would do that, the answer being they didn't know what the range dial does and simply thought it would make the rifles shoot harder.
j'ai été tireur d'élite au concoure OTAN dans toute les disciplines le FN Fal remportait les 5 premières place ssouvent le M14 batail le G3 , quoique un tireur d'élite est tellement concentrer qu'il ne regarde pas , la concentration est épuisante, aujourd'hui le scar remporte tout le compétition OTAN et même civile , pour une foi un américain avoue que le AR 10 est Hollandait
As an owner of a full automatic G3 and Fn Fal I can tell you they are both great guns. I have shot a M14 I don’t own one but they are very hard to control in full auto unlike the G3 an FN. The M14 is very accurate in semi though.
A couple observations about the FAL. There are modernized versions of the FAL like the DSA SA58 IBC and IBR. Also, Imbel in Brazil used to make the MD97, a 5.56 version of the FAL and now make‘s the IA2, a hybrid between FAL and AR15
@@derfaschist9687 actually it is not more reliable, the gas system makes it less reliable than the roller delayed blowback, this also makes the G3 the more accurate of these rifles
Another thing to note about the FAL in particular, FN was working closely with the British to chamber it in an intermediate cartridge after they reviewed captured STG44 rifles in 8mm Kurz. But because of NATO agreement and the US refusing to step down from .30-06 / .308 chamberings, the FAL and G3 ended up using larger calibers then they were originally intended which increased recoil and weapon vibrations. Makes you wonder what could have been with a FAL / G3 in something like 6.5mm Swedish or .280 British.
if you rewind a bit to the days of CETME development, they were indeed looking at a 7.92x41CETME round that would have been incredibly interesting. but NATO swung the biggest stick.
Out of the 3, the FAL is what I'd take. Specifically a STG58. The BREN is a nice light machinegun. But let me know how that's playing out when carrying it half a day.
I carried a Bren as a cadet on exercise during annual camp for two days, loved every minute of it! So much so I took every opportunity to carry one during the week. I was 14.
My Uncle fought in the Rhodesian bush war as a Scout.He used and loved the FAL. My Dad loved the Bren gun when he used it during his National service in the British Army.
The reason the FAL hasn't had any major dmr/sniper role is the inherent imprecision of it's locking system. The G3 and the M14 both have 2 contact points with the trunion (for the G3, it has 2 rollers and for the M14, 2 locking lugs) while the FAL only has one (on the back of the bolt where it locks into, right behind the magazine). This provides the G3 and the M14 a more reliable and consistent locking setup due to requiring 2 contact points to be "insinc" with one another instead of only requiring one. The consistency of the bolt lockup and consequently. the time the bolt carrier can start moving (G3)/the bolt carrier can start rotating the bolt (M14) affects the time the cartrige remains fully locked into the chamber as well as the exact horizontal location of the cartrige. The more reliable said locking system is, the smaller the diferences between each shot become, thus more accurate/precise (there's a diference between the two, but I don't care). There are upsides and downsides to each system, for example: The G3's roller delayed blowback is extremely simple (in terms of the number of actual moving parts) and is condusive to cheap and easy to manufacture recievers while also being the most potentially accurate operating system due to the small impact it leaves on the harmonics of the reciever when shot (mainting a stable barrel). The M14 and FAL on the other hand, are both gas operated which allows for finer tuning of the recoil impulse felt and are much cleaner operating systems (leaving all the gases in the gas tube), the difference between the two is that the M14 is more potentially accurate while the FAL is easier to clean and harder to induce mud and dirt into the locking recesses.
Good analysis, but don't forget the other drawback of the FAL as a precision/DMR weapon, namely its clam-shell receiver design, which made mounting a scope and holding a decent zero quite difficult. The British eventually came up with the 4x fixed power "Sight Unit, Infantry, Trilux" (only the British could come up with such a name!), and a solid mount at the rear of the receiver behind the cover - but by that time, the die was cast and the FAL wasn't known as a good sniping weapon. Eventually, the technical challenge was solved by DSA of the U.S.A., one of the world's existing makers of the rifles in the 21st century... but by that time, the world's militaries had moved on to other designs. Of the three designs, G3/FAL/M14, the M-14 is generally the most-accurate, thanks mostly to its superb trigger and iron sights, and the fact that the platform accepts an optic reasonably well. The U.S. Army used an accurized version with a scope as its standard issue sniper weapon during the Vietnam War, and Staff Sergeant Bert Waldron become the top-scoring sniper in U.S. military history using one until Navy SEAL CPO Chris Kyle broke his record in Iraq during the GWOT. G3s can be made into excellent precision weapons, once you dump a bunch of time and $ into fixing its drawbacks, such as the abysmal factory trigger, inadequate precision stock, poor ergonomics, etc. They are also notorious for destroying scopes, since their recoil impulse isn't friendly to optics, and until P-rails were fitted, you needed a special claw mount, too. Even those shifted under recoil until a lug was installed. But the Bundeswehr and other forces used them in Afghanistan with good results. The FN FAL comes in last for the reasons mentioned. It is too bad, really, because there's nothing wrong with the barrels on the rifles, which are capable of very fine accuracy. The factory iron sights, OEM trigger and the difficulty in using an optic hold it back. British forces in the Falklands War turned captured scoped FALs on their former owners to good effect, according to reports. The Argentines used German optics, and had apparently solved the shifting mount problem somehow. Maybe their snipers just re-zeroed after servicing their weapons... None of these Cold War-era weapons was ideal for use with an optic, since all came from an era in which optics on combat rifles were something of a rarity. Work-arounds and expedient solutions were found, but a modern platform such as the SR-25 is much easier to use thanks to its up-to-date ergonomics and other modern enhancements. Time marches on, right?
I have a DSA SA58, a PTR-91, and a Springfield M1A SOCOM 16. I like the PTR-91 the most but I'm sure you'll be happy with any of them, they're all fun to shoot.
I carried the SLR (the improved UK version of FAL - reciprocating charging that folded on release and sand clearing cuts on the bolt carrier) for a few years before the L85 was issued - it wasnt as accurate as the later issued L85 but accurate enough - and unlike the L85, it was reliable in all conditions and things didnt break and fall off of it, and in my opinion it was a more solidly built than a G3 but with 1 weakness - the rear sights and optic mounting to the top slide, the largest thing I carried on the SLR was the humungous IWS image intensifier sight - it wasnt fun to hump around- the downfall is the rear sight is mounted on the butt, and it was common knowledge that breaking the weapon open to clean it risked a shift in zero slightly after reassembly - for this reason it was common practice during the lead up to shooting competitions for soldiers not to fully strip the SLR for cleaning but instead to clean as best you can without breaking the hinge open - the safety catch can also affect trigger pressure if fired left handed if your hand pushes up against it as you squeeze -
By the way, I had to lug the FN around as a cadet , on rare occasions we would be (with Australian Army supervision) allowed to shoot them at the range , I had no idea just how powerful they were until I had a chance to shoot something other than a paper target , they use to count the bullets to make sure we weren’t hoarding them, one day as a CSM I used my rank to take custody of a clip full of rounds unaccounted for , my RSM and I waited until everyone was gone, I shot at a tiled and concrete wall of an old shed , the rounds went straight through the wall, through the wall on the other side, through a porta-loo and then still had the velocity to go through several trees on the other side!!!!! Absolutely true story
For what they charge they'd better not disappoint. Hell for the money I've spent they should come by with women and beer every so often just as a thank you
@@RandomGuy9 we were talking about hk as a company, which is well known for over charging. As for the g3, you go find me a cheap one, and let me know where you found it lol
A favourite of mine was the L1A1 SLR (Lithgow FN Fal) as I carried it in the Australian Army and owned a couple prior to the changes in law.... Field stripping and cleaning had an effect on the zero unlike the M14 (I had a Springfield Armory M1A) and the Heckler & Koch, but I found both the SLR and M1A both Wonderful!!
It hurts my head to think of all those Lithgow L1A1's going into the bin for destruction, have quite a few of these Lithgow SLR's in the US imported by Joy Poyer back in the 80's, Limited run of 200, beautiful rifles.
G3 is one of the most robust battle rifle in the world. Easy to use, and very strong. As operators a trick we used to eliminate the lack of bolt catch is that we put two tracer rounds first so we changed mags as long as we saw the trace and one round was always in the chamber.
I own a G3 (well, a PTR-91 anyways, same difference), and have shot an FAL and M-14 a good bit, so I can at least form an opinion not based on video games or hearsay, and based on what I've experienced it's a tie between the FAL and G3. I like the looks, ergonomics and accuracy of the G3 above all else but the FAL is a gentler shooter, the RDB action of the G3 runs hot and kicks hard while the FAL gas system can be dialed down and makes it a lot more controllable, though it doesn't match up in the looks department, there's just something about the FAL's lines that I don't like, I can't pin it down specifically. I want to love the M14 and technically I do (I love _all_ guns equally, I don't discriminate😉) but it's definitely not going to win against guns like the G3 or FAL, the controllability and accuracy issues and lack of modularity are Debbie downers. It's a beautiful rifle though...
They froze on Friday, just like everything else up here in Canada… current owners are grandfathered. Have nots are have nots. No more selling or trading until a new proper government comes in and puts on a rerun of the ‘cancel the long gun registry’.
If I had my pick I would take a select fire, just to have the extra capability. I have fired a semi auto g3 several time, and have some time behind a full auto FAL and scar 17s. They where surprisingly controllable. And it's always nice to have more capability.
I've got a DSA SA-58 IBR 18" with a chunky muzzle brake. Easily the nicest shooting battle rifle I've shot. Extremely controllable, flat shooting, little felt recoil. I love it. That being said, I grew up on an M16, so the magazine reload and bolt release ergonomics still feel just not quite right. Plus even with a fluted barrel and only an optic, she's HEAVY. But all that could be excused if it was accurate... which it isn't. 2 to 2.5" groups with regular M80 ball, and with match grade it's just touching 1.5" on a good day. But I love it and would take it over literally any other battle rifle.
Great comparison. I do really love the fn fal a little more then the hk g3. The Belgian army did have an interesting dmr/sniper variant of the fn fal. They used their old . model 1949 scopes on them and made some small changes to the rifle.
Just a retired Army Grunt here, I own all the semi-auto rifles in your topic and I graduated from a school that used the M-21 rifle and ART scope. I love the M-14 platform but….I’d grab my FAL and feel confident that it won’t let me down. Reasons? The recoil impulse is a lot tamer and the adjustable gas regulator allows me to use any type of .308/7.62 ammo. For the 5.56 category, I’ll go with the AR-15 platform with an XM-177E2 carbine.
I think the reason why some are saying you sound like gerand thumb is because compared to your older vids you have been sounding more like him, like with the little pausing when talking type sound lol. Honestly i thought you were a new host or whatever for this channel for a minute lol, other than that though I still love your channel and have been watching since the beginning.
"They make good marksmans rifles" That's literally the only reason why it was made and selected over the FAL. Damn that colonel Studler. Imagine the G3/HK33 and FAL in 6.8SPC. That's essentially what would've been if it hadn't been for him.
My favorite is SIG SG 510-1 in 7.5x55. I also shot with G3, M14 and Galil all in 7.62x51, but nothing felt better than SG 510. Iron sights were great but once you put on a scope it turns into top notch DMR, was more acurate than H&K SR9. Only downside is that cases gets scratched after shooting, tehnically you can still handload them but I don't do that and i dont find ammo to be particularly expensive. Oh, and I almost forgot to add that the gun was only 735 USD.
My mind was blown with AMAZEMENT at the camera panorama of his collection of weapons before he even opened his mouth are the safe!!!!! I love all 3. You cannot beat the simplicity of the M14. Based on the M1 Garand. You cannot beat Beretta's remake of the M-14 into the Folding stock, lighter weight BM-59! You can take it apart in the field if need be by flipping the trigger guard forward. Its only got 7 parts #1 The rotating bolt. #2 The gas block and slide. #3 The recoil spring. #4 The trigger assembly. #5 The barrel and Chamber. #6 The magazine. #7 The Stock. Not that I wouldn't kill to have a FN-Fal are a HK-G3 also. I wish my gun room resembled his!
I'd choose G3 for durability alone. Look at middle eastern conflicts like the Iran Iraq war and lebanese crisis. FALs found themselves tossed for aks while aks were being tossed for G3s which had durability alongside range.
I own them all. Let's face it 308 style battle rifles are Doritos. Ya just can't have One 🎉. My favorite is The FN-FAL 50.63. Tough, accurate, reliable and super ergonomic. All are good investments that only are always increase I value. Good video Brother Man
I bought a FAL a while back and finally got around to buying a G3 recently since one came up for sale. Does anyone know where I can buy some furniture for it? It comes with the standard Green ones from the 60's and 70's but I want to also attack a bipod and carry handle to it along with scope and one of those nice grips you see on a PSG1. I literally can't find it for sale anywhere tho
On his website Larry Vickers lists the FAL has his favorite legacy main battle rifle but notes that the G3 is the most robust. In the weapon trials the US Picatinny Arsenal found that the G3 was the most reliable of all the battle rifles in mud and dust tests as well as it could be rebuilt more times than the FAL and the M14.
The G3 is so brutally tough and durable that it is even tougher and more-difficult to break than an AK47, and that's already an amazingly robust weapon. G3s were popular, according to military histories about that time, in various insurgencies and 'bush wars' in Africa in the 1960s-1970s, since many of the mercenaries and other untrained fighters didn't always perform cleaning and field maintenance as they ought to have done. And Africa is tough on equipment anyway, even when it is well cared for.
I've been fortunate enough to build two fal kits. A Brazilian imbel kit on a imbel gear logo and an stg58 kit on a gear logo also. The stg was my favorite and I wish I could get it back now.
I carried the FNC1A1 for 7 years as a grunt. It was reliable and accurate but recoil was pretty harsh and heavy for its size. Most people don't know that the FAL was originally designed for the 7.92 x 33 round not the 7.62 Nato. FN had to do some re-engineering after the US insisted that all Nato forces use the 7.62. I have no first hand experience with the G-3 but, I hear it's a good boom stick. The M-14 is a very capable rifle even though it's simply a modified M-1.
Re: "The M-14 is a very capable rifle even though it's simply a modified M-1." Actually, there is more to the M-14 than meets the eye. It is an improved M-1, to be sure, and that is obvious in its lineage and the various parts that it shares with its combat-tested "parent" - sights, trigger group, rotating bolt operating system, etc. However, the M-14 fixed two of the fairly significant drawbacks or parts of the Garand that were showing their age, namely the gas system and its loading system. The en-bloc loading system - which was top-load/top-eject - made using an optic on an M-1 problematical in that it had to be off-set (typically to the left) to allow the loading and unloading of the rifle. The box magazine system of the M-14 fixed that problem, so it is a relatively simple matter to add an optic or scope to an M1A/M14. Second, the gas system of the M-1, which was 1920s-1930s technology - worked well and was pretty robust, but it lacked any sort of gas cutoff or valve, which meant that whatever pressure the shot generated was passed on to the gas piston system via the operating rod. Consequently, M-1 rifles are sometimes picky about what ammunition they prefer, namely loads using IMR-4895 or 4064 (or the canister grade equivalent) and bullets in the 147-175-grain weight range. If you use modern high-pressure 30-06 hunting loads in an M-1 rifle, you can bend or even break the op-rod. The M-14 system uses an elegant self-adjusting/self-compensating gas system that has automatically bleeds off excessive pressure once the gas piston has been actuated and the op-rod moved to the rear to cycle the action. The system uses only that amount of pressure needed to work the action, but no more. It is superior to the manual adjustment of the FN FAL, because it requires no manual operation and is self-compensating and self-adjusting. This means that the M-14 is much more tolerant of different types and manufactures of ammunition than its parent design, the M-1, and it is better able to compensate for different pressure curves shown by different loads. Like the M-1, it "likes" IMR-4895 or IMR-4064 best, but it will handle a wider range of burn rates well. The caliber change to 7.62x51mm NATO M80 Ball meant that the individual cartridge was shorter and lighter than the old M2 Ball 30-06 round, which saved weight and space, yet its performance was virtually identical at least in that weight range of 147-150 grains at ~ 2800 fps at the muzzle. The M-14 was select-fire but quite quickly, it was learned that its best operation was in semi-auto almost all the time. Like the FAL and G3, the M-14 did not make a very good general-purpose machine gun since it lacked a QD barrel system, and could not be fed from belted or boxed ammo. It was fine as an occasional use automatic rifle, but was used in semi-auto almost exclusively from that point on. The rear sights on an M-14 are similar to those on an M-1, except the former are graduated in meters, whereas the latter are in yards. The M14 sights go out to 1100m, and the M-1's to 1200 yards.
I will add that commonwealth FALs had 30 rounder options technically. The L4 Bren had 30 round magazines that were 100% compatible with commonwealth pattern FALs. And they can be modified to work in other FALs as well.
Carried a version of the FAL as an infantryman in the Canadian Army in the '80s. Never let me down. I was still in the armed forces when we transitioned to the c7 5.56 mm, and I preferred my old FNC1A1
Had both UK SLR and the Canadian C1 in my service years. I actually prefer semi auto as I was trained In the British Army under the Marksmanship principles. Spray and pray just isn’t my thing. Of course as a UK army cadet we had the Lee Enfield no4, Sten, Bren, Browning Hi-Power. Canadian gun rules just take all that kind of option away from you. SLR if I had a choice
I’m biased, but I would take the FAL with my limited knowledge- I own ONE AR-15 and I chose an FN tactical ii Carbine DMR (geiselle single stage trigger and 18” barrel) and I love it to pieces. FN made me a believer with that AR and my limited rifle knowledge. I compete in USPSA pistol competitions and know my way around a pistol much more than a rifle or a pcc, but that FN FAL would make me a rifle guy if battle came knocking on my door and I had no choice - alongside my FN 15 which I love. Love your content and love the ASMR videos so much. These are even better, when I get to learn from someone who is passionate about what they’re talking about and have a natural love for guns like we do. You would fit right in , here in America! 👊🏼🇺🇸hope all is well in Canada 🇨🇦 🍁! Shoutout from California.
Between these 7.62x51 Assault Rifles I would go for the G3 because you can get derivatives of the platform in 9mm MP5 5.56x45 HK33. Since you're from Canada this is simply comparing a G3 to a C1 SLR Canadian FN FAL
I used the FN LA L1 back in the day( 1974-93) , with no flash arrestor, all wood . Against mud buildings or walls it’s knocked the hell out of it and there was no real hiding place . Also against light armoured vehicles and that era body armour it’s stood up well .
I've owned a G3. I didn't like it.. It was heavy, had a heavy trigger, the rifle was not terribly accurate, and the roller design made reloading .308 a non-option. I have friends who have M1A1s - and their complaint is that you have to put a lot of money into them, in order to make them accurate - or they can be finicky.. I now own an FAL ( my second one ) and - it's pure love. It's accurate ( my newest 18" rifle from DSA can shoot 1 MOA with 168 gr reloads ), it's reliable ( with metal magazines ), and while it does have some weight to it - it does come in lighter configurations. Thus, I am quite affectionate regarding the FAL. Second choice would be the G3, and 3rd would be the M1A1.
I like seeing other people's opinions. I've just started my collection a year ago or so. So I really only have a custom built AR15 and a couple of handguns. I like seeing why people come to their opinions regarding guns I consider purchasing.
Seems like the FAL has the most optimal operation with the locking bolt on the last round. If you want to be practical, the FAL seems like the best choice but I see a lot of people love the G3. As much as I love the M14 and would definitely rely on it in the field, I have my eyes set on that nice German piece. Would like to shoot them first though.
Wow! That's quite a candy store you've got there buddy! Of all three, I'll take the G3 best sights, runs in lumpy mud, and best hip shot. It's all business.
served in the Norwegian army in the early 90s. Then we used G3, or AG3, which was the name in the Norwegian armed forces. A robust and reliable weapon.
my teacher once asked me if i could tell him one weapon i would use in a SHTF situation, he followed his question with "you're wrong either way, because you've never used a G3, that's the only gun you need!" so because of that i always name the G3 "the only gun you need" i found it funny because it reminded me of the "you only need six shots" quote XD
The FN FAL is hands down the ultimate culling equipment. Accurate. Powerful. Rugged. Reliable. High quality engineering. Man's best friend. May be a bit on the heavy side, but the weight helps keep the business end down when you click it over from ABC to fully fluent. The wood (beautiful feel and lookl stocks and furniture were ok, the bakelite furniture ok, but the synthetic ones really nice. The G3 i found to be a bit finicky and the mags a bit of a problem. More suited to golf course wars for the clean shaven suit and tie boys.
During my service, the G3A3 i was issued had the same age as me. Never jammed once and it had its fair share of dirt, dust etc. Accuracy-wise you could hit center target with iron sights form very long distances. I've handled a FAL and honestly liked the rifle, but I wouldn't trade my G3 for the world.
I served in vietnam war and the M-14 is the best battle rifle made. M-16 colt wad issued to all troops there . The bullet was to small for the jungle follage just bounce around. Lz X-ray pleiku.
I have had all three for decades and have had many versions of them. Even with the long outreach to cock the rifle, no last round BHO and heavy recoil compared to the others, the G3 has always been my pick. It's handier for me, mags in the states were at one point $1 and are still less than $10, more accurate (with an optic) and it's just so damn beautiful.
It would all depend on what I am doing in battle, If I am laying down cover fire, I would chose the Bren, but if I'm trying to make precise shots, then the Fal.
The G3 you have has got a front stock I associate with the PSG1. Not sure if I used a newer version of the G3 or if you have a replica, but I think it would matter a bit. I haven't tried all of these rifles, but the G3 I had when I started my service was durable as f*** and accurate as well. I know the latter bit depends on a lot of things, but even with just the iron sights it was amazing. My G3 was 20 years old when I got it and still never failed me. Later on, as I got into another unit, we tried all sorts of stuff, but not the FAL or M14, sadly.
The FN FAL, or the L1A1 SLR to us Brits... even limited to Semi-Auto it was still a beast. And while I know they're rarer than a rocking horse pooping out a golden egg, over there... I'd love to get your opinion on the L85A1/SA80A1 lol
I've used Turkish version of G3 A3 in different situations during my service. I would preffer G3. However, I've seen an amazing version of G3 at your shorts. I would definetely preffer that!
I have all three - all three of mine are Springfield Armory M1A ( M14 ) SAR 8 ( HK91 ) LICENSED - SAR 4800 - FAL ( LICENSED ) All run fine ! Buy what you want ! LOLOLOLOLOL
I would happily take a FAL. Its my favorite rifle. Granted, this is the opinion of someone who hasn't shot one, but they fit into my grip and hold like a glove, and they look amazing
The difference between select fire and full auto is actually academic. My DS Major at the School of Infantry was an Australian who'd served in Vietnam. He said one day a VC just materialised in front of him. Gave him such a fright he'd emptied the full 20 rounds into him before he dropped. Amazing what adrenalin will do! Also, it's all very well blazing away in the general direction at range on full auto - but someone has to, hopefully, resupply you....
FN FAL, G1 - FN FAL, Heckler & Koch G3, are assault riffles with big bullets, good stopping power, stable fire rate on semi & decent full auto, manageable recoil, decent accuracy, M-14 is the true battle rifle, very good stopping power, stable fire rate on semi but bad not full auto, more recoil then the M1, very accurate Both have good bayonets
I like the G3 for reliability of the roller delay system, and the FAL for its ergonomics and feel when firing. I don’t care for the M-14, for reasons, I don’t like how it shoots or how it feels to carry. Also the M-14 was only in active use as the standard service rifle for 7 years (before it was replaced by the M-16) whereas the G3 (and it’s derivatives) and the FAL are still in use as standard service rifles today.
The M-14 was only the standard issue rifle for seven or so years, but that's only if you count its service as the standard infantry weapon. Even in that role, the troops in Europe facing Warsaw Pact forces kept theirs into the 1970s before swapping out for M-16s. But that doesn't take into account the use of the M-14 right down to the present as a precision/sniping weapon by various forces; in USN and USCG arms lockers; and by special ops forces such as U.S. Army Special Forces and the Navy SEALS. They're finally being retired, but today there are still M-14s in the inventory, which means that they have served for more than sixty years. Not bad, in anyone's book. Suit yourself, of course, though....
As a member of the G3 cult, I am obligated to pick G3. FAL pretty neat though.
Fellow member checking in.
Give me psg-1...
I am also a part of the G3 cult
I am here to pledge loyalty to the g3 cult as well
FAL maintaining its reputation of being a gun no one hates
my uncle fought in the Falklands he was a royal engineer and was tasked with demolishing Argentinian defences and mine fields . he said one of the main reasons we won was we had the semi auto FAL but the Argentinian forces had the full auto version and they would shoot full auto all the time from so far away the rounds would fly way above his head he said he felt confident enougth to just stand up while under fire because they couldn't hit the moon from 3ft away let alone hit a still target from 500 to 600ft . our boys are trained to be marksmen they would take time aiming shots . he was tasked with blowing up a weapon and ammo storage site but got a chance to piss about with some of the Argentinian weapons unloading a few mags into a hill on full auto he said the recoil and muzzle climb was Insane . another funny story he told me was his friend getting sent home because his mum jokingly asked him to bring a penguin back being the dumbass he is he tried to grab a penguin not realising they actually have really sharp beaks . the penguin sliced his arm open from elbow to wrist and cut so deep it severed the tendons in his arm . he got discharged because he could no longer hold a gun . another tail was he got called to rescue an Argentinian who had gone for a piss in the night and stumbled into the middle of a mine field. realising his mistake he sat down and waited till morning only to find out his position had been captured in the early hours of the morning and he was now surrounded by amused brits . my uncle had to clear a path through the minefield so he could get out and be captured
You should add that the Argentine FN-FAL,s were so dirty they could hardly function!
Reminds me of the Rhodesian bush war. The Rhodesians captured quite a few enemy AKs and noticed the range on the rear sight dialed to the max on most of them. Upon capturing an enemy fighter, they asked why they would do that, the answer being they didn't know what the range dial does and simply thought it would make the rifles shoot harder.
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The FAL is the best on paper, but the G3 has the unmatched ability (among battle rifles) to reload using an HK slap so it's obviously the best.
j'ai été tireur d'élite au concoure OTAN dans toute les disciplines le FN Fal remportait les 5 premières place ssouvent le M14 batail le G3 , quoique un tireur d'élite est tellement concentrer qu'il ne regarde pas , la concentration est épuisante, aujourd'hui le scar remporte tout le compétition OTAN et même civile , pour une foi un américain avoue que le AR 10 est Hollandait
The first half of my time as a grunt was with the FAL. Looking back, I’m surprised how much work went into building it. It’s a good all around tool.
I love the M14 and own a M1A but if I were going into combat and had to choose between the three, I would go FAL.
Agreed
Fully agree
Myself an AR-10!!!
Why ?????????
Fully agree, but not fully automatic
As an owner of a full automatic G3 and Fn Fal I can tell you they are both great guns. I have shot a M14 I don’t own one but they are very hard to control in full auto unlike the G3 an FN. The M14 is very accurate in semi though.
The beauty of the 7.62x51 is that you don’t have to place multiple shots on the same target with the right marksmanship/ammo.
Depends on the target. Average dude yes. Mas’s monster on drugs… a few.
A couple observations about the FAL. There are modernized versions of the FAL like the DSA SA58 IBC and IBR. Also, Imbel in Brazil used to make the MD97, a 5.56 version of the FAL and now make‘s the IA2, a hybrid between FAL and AR15
Yessir. The dsa IBW was something I was wanting to work with.
Actually, its more of an hybrid of an ak, that uses some ar 15 similar parts, in the skeleton of a polymer fal
G3 of course, still being used all over the world. I myself used it as well in my service(target shooting only tho :D).
What kind of service only requires target shooting
@@fgc5243 Paid conscription where you serve for a month instead of 6 months, it's just training pretty much.
@@fgc5243 Apart from my case, the probabilty of being in a combat is pretty pretty low for a solider actually.
Fn Fal is much more superior to G3. G3 is cheaper to produce with sheets only. Fn fal is more reliable.
@@derfaschist9687 actually it is not more reliable, the gas system makes it less reliable than the roller delayed blowback, this also makes the G3 the more accurate of these rifles
You should reach out to Activision/Blizzard.
They could probably use a reference arsenal like that.
They don't even have a Scorpion in COD: Cold War
Same with CODM
@@montanapharmaceuticals7881 well, cod4 was in 2009
Another thing to note about the FAL in particular, FN was working closely with the British to chamber it in an intermediate cartridge after they reviewed captured STG44 rifles in 8mm Kurz.
But because of NATO agreement and the US refusing to step down from .30-06 / .308 chamberings, the FAL and G3 ended up using larger calibers then they were originally intended which increased recoil and weapon vibrations.
Makes you wonder what could have been with a FAL / G3 in something like 6.5mm Swedish or .280 British.
if you rewind a bit to the days of CETME development, they were indeed looking at a 7.92x41CETME round that would have been incredibly interesting. but NATO swung the biggest stick.
Out of the 3, the FAL is what I'd take. Specifically a STG58. The BREN is a nice light machinegun. But let me know how that's playing out when carrying it half a day.
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Sorry but the Bren is little more than a heavy barrelled rifle with a bipod. Extremely accurate though - too accurate for a machine gun
I carried a Bren as a cadet on exercise during annual camp for two days, loved every minute of it! So much so I took every opportunity to carry one during the week. I was 14.
My Uncle fought in the Rhodesian bush war as a Scout.He used and loved the FAL.
My Dad loved the Bren gun when he used it during his National service in the British Army.
I bet your uncle had a lot of interesting stories
The reason the FAL hasn't had any major dmr/sniper role is the inherent imprecision of it's locking system. The G3 and the M14 both have 2 contact points with the trunion (for the G3, it has 2 rollers and for the M14, 2 locking lugs) while the FAL only has one (on the back of the bolt where it locks into, right behind the magazine). This provides the G3 and the M14 a more reliable and consistent locking setup due to requiring 2 contact points to be "insinc" with one another instead of only requiring one. The consistency of the bolt lockup and consequently. the time the bolt carrier can start moving (G3)/the bolt carrier can start rotating the bolt (M14) affects the time the cartrige remains fully locked into the chamber as well as the exact horizontal location of the cartrige. The more reliable said locking system is, the smaller the diferences between each shot become, thus more accurate/precise (there's a diference between the two, but I don't care).
There are upsides and downsides to each system, for example: The G3's roller delayed blowback is extremely simple (in terms of the number of actual moving parts) and is condusive to cheap and easy to manufacture recievers while also being the most potentially accurate operating system due to the small impact it leaves on the harmonics of the reciever when shot (mainting a stable barrel). The M14 and FAL on the other hand, are both gas operated which allows for finer tuning of the recoil impulse felt and are much cleaner operating systems (leaving all the gases in the gas tube), the difference between the two is that the M14 is more potentially accurate while the FAL is easier to clean and harder to induce mud and dirt into the locking recesses.
Good analysis, but don't forget the other drawback of the FAL as a precision/DMR weapon, namely its clam-shell receiver design, which made mounting a scope and holding a decent zero quite difficult. The British eventually came up with the 4x fixed power "Sight Unit, Infantry, Trilux" (only the British could come up with such a name!), and a solid mount at the rear of the receiver behind the cover - but by that time, the die was cast and the FAL wasn't known as a good sniping weapon. Eventually, the technical challenge was solved by DSA of the U.S.A., one of the world's existing makers of the rifles in the 21st century... but by that time, the world's militaries had moved on to other designs.
Of the three designs, G3/FAL/M14, the M-14 is generally the most-accurate, thanks mostly to its superb trigger and iron sights, and the fact that the platform accepts an optic reasonably well. The U.S. Army used an accurized version with a scope as its standard issue sniper weapon during the Vietnam War, and Staff Sergeant Bert Waldron become the top-scoring sniper in U.S. military history using one until Navy SEAL CPO Chris Kyle broke his record in Iraq during the GWOT.
G3s can be made into excellent precision weapons, once you dump a bunch of time and $ into fixing its drawbacks, such as the abysmal factory trigger, inadequate precision stock, poor ergonomics, etc. They are also notorious for destroying scopes, since their recoil impulse isn't friendly to optics, and until P-rails were fitted, you needed a special claw mount, too. Even those shifted under recoil until a lug was installed. But the Bundeswehr and other forces used them in Afghanistan with good results.
The FN FAL comes in last for the reasons mentioned. It is too bad, really, because there's nothing wrong with the barrels on the rifles, which are capable of very fine accuracy. The factory iron sights, OEM trigger and the difficulty in using an optic hold it back. British forces in the Falklands War turned captured scoped FALs on their former owners to good effect, according to reports. The Argentines used German optics, and had apparently solved the shifting mount problem somehow. Maybe their snipers just re-zeroed after servicing their weapons...
None of these Cold War-era weapons was ideal for use with an optic, since all came from an era in which optics on combat rifles were something of a rarity. Work-arounds and expedient solutions were found, but a modern platform such as the SR-25 is much easier to use thanks to its up-to-date ergonomics and other modern enhancements. Time marches on, right?
My favorite gun is the FAL it’s just a beautiful firearm and the ergo and feel of them are just great! Awesome vid Arm I love these 308 rifles!
Perfect timing I am looking into the FAL and G3 for a new gun and first classic
DS arms FAL or M1A every time. I'm so jealous. We are vnot allowed these in the UK.
G3 getting magazines and other stuff for it is easier and cheaper.
I have a DSA SA58, a PTR-91, and a Springfield M1A SOCOM 16. I like the PTR-91 the most but I'm sure you'll be happy with any of them, they're all fun to shoot.
The design language of the G3 resembles the cetme and FAL so well. It's cool that the similarities are so apparent.
The cetme was the foundation for the g3
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I carried the SLR (the improved UK version of FAL - reciprocating charging that folded on release and sand clearing cuts on the bolt carrier) for a few years before the L85 was issued - it wasnt as accurate as the later issued L85 but accurate enough - and unlike the L85, it was reliable in all conditions and things didnt break and fall off of it, and in my opinion it was a more solidly built than a G3 but with 1 weakness - the rear sights and optic mounting to the top slide, the largest thing I carried on the SLR was the humungous IWS image intensifier sight - it wasnt fun to hump around- the downfall is the rear sight is mounted on the butt, and it was common knowledge that breaking the weapon open to clean it risked a shift in zero slightly after reassembly - for this reason it was common practice during the lead up to shooting competitions for soldiers not to fully strip the SLR for cleaning but instead to clean as best you can without breaking the hinge open - the safety catch can also affect trigger pressure if fired left handed if your hand pushes up against it as you squeeze -
Self loading rifle it's a heavy bastard aint she. Haha
By the way, I had to lug the FN around as a cadet , on rare occasions we would be (with Australian Army supervision) allowed to shoot them at the range , I had no idea just how powerful they were until I had a chance to shoot something other than a paper target , they use to count the bullets to make sure we weren’t hoarding them, one day as a CSM I used my rank to take custody of a clip full of rounds unaccounted for , my RSM and I waited until everyone was gone, I shot at a tiled and concrete wall of an old shed , the rounds went straight through the wall, through the wall on the other side, through a porta-loo and then still had the velocity to go through several trees on the other side!!!!! Absolutely true story
That 308 doesn't play games. I believe it
rly a ''clip''?
"7.62 NATO .... turning cover into concealment since 1953" ....
A FG42 with some modern upgrades would be nice!
Fact
HK never disappoints. G3 all the way
For what they charge they'd better not disappoint. Hell for the money I've spent they should come by with women and beer every so often just as a thank you
@@grahamlopez3742 the G3 was a cheap rifle for mass production for a then big German army.
@@RandomGuy9 we were talking about hk as a company, which is well known for over charging. As for the g3, you go find me a cheap one, and let me know where you found it lol
@@grahamlopez3742 I found one in the back of an old HK catalogue. 299EU.
@@dylanwight5764 how old of a catalog? Ot doesn't count if I'd have to time travel to buy it
A favourite of mine was the L1A1 SLR (Lithgow FN Fal) as I carried it in the Australian Army and owned a couple prior to the changes in law.... Field stripping and cleaning had an effect on the zero unlike the M14 (I had a Springfield Armory M1A) and the Heckler & Koch, but I found both the SLR and M1A both Wonderful!!
It hurts my head to think of all those Lithgow L1A1's going into the bin for destruction, have quite a few of these Lithgow SLR's in the US imported by Joy Poyer back in the 80's, Limited run of 200, beautiful rifles.
G3 is one of the most robust battle rifle in the world. Easy to use, and very strong. As operators a trick we used to eliminate the lack of bolt catch is that we put two tracer rounds first so we changed mags as long as we saw the trace and one round was always in the chamber.
Loving the G3 man.
Sniping? M-14. Dropping out of planes? G3. Overall battlefield use? FAL. All 3 are great rifles and you should be proud to own any of them.
The FN FAL is select fire, capable of full automatic fire.
Only the British variant the SLR was semi automatic.
I own a G3 (well, a PTR-91 anyways, same difference), and have shot an FAL and M-14 a good bit, so I can at least form an opinion not based on video games or hearsay, and based on what I've experienced it's a tie between the FAL and G3. I like the looks, ergonomics and accuracy of the G3 above all else but the FAL is a gentler shooter, the RDB action of the G3 runs hot and kicks hard while the FAL gas system can be dialed down and makes it a lot more controllable, though it doesn't match up in the looks department, there's just something about the FAL's lines that I don't like, I can't pin it down specifically. I want to love the M14 and technically I do (I love _all_ guns equally, I don't discriminate😉) but it's definitely not going to win against guns like the G3 or FAL, the controllability and accuracy issues and lack of modularity are Debbie downers. It's a beautiful rifle though...
Loved this! We need a vid about what's going on with handguns in Canada ASAP🤘🇨🇦
They froze on Friday, just like everything else up here in Canada… current owners are grandfathered. Have nots are have nots. No more selling or trading until a new proper government comes in and puts on a rerun of the ‘cancel the long gun registry’.
@@armandgun every day i wake up, i thank that in the US we have the 2nd amendment
Hoping for one day when you get hold of a South African R series rifle. R2 and R3 are pretty great.
If I had my pick I would take a select fire, just to have the extra capability. I have fired a semi auto g3 several time, and have some time behind a full auto FAL and scar 17s. They where surprisingly controllable. And it's always nice to have more capability.
I've shot the CETME (Spanish G3), the FN FAL, and was trained with the M14 (USN). I liked the FAL best.
Galil> FAL> G3>AR10>M14...there's an alternate universe where the US adopts the FAL, move to the FNC and end up with the Scar L in 6.8spc during GWOT
Yes
I've got a DSA SA-58 IBR 18" with a chunky muzzle brake. Easily the nicest shooting battle rifle I've shot. Extremely controllable, flat shooting, little felt recoil. I love it.
That being said, I grew up on an M16, so the magazine reload and bolt release ergonomics still feel just not quite right. Plus even with a fluted barrel and only an optic, she's HEAVY. But all that could be excused if it was accurate... which it isn't. 2 to 2.5" groups with regular M80 ball, and with match grade it's just touching 1.5" on a good day.
But I love it and would take it over literally any other battle rifle.
Great comparison. I do really love the fn fal a little more then the hk g3.
The Belgian army did have an interesting dmr/sniper variant of the fn fal. They used their old . model 1949 scopes on them and made some small changes to the rifle.
Just a retired Army Grunt here, I own all the semi-auto rifles in your topic and I graduated from a school that used the M-21 rifle and ART scope. I love the M-14 platform but….I’d grab my FAL and feel confident that it won’t let me down. Reasons? The recoil impulse is a lot tamer and the adjustable gas regulator allows me to use any type of .308/7.62 ammo. For the 5.56 category, I’ll go with the AR-15 platform with an XM-177E2 carbine.
At 4:18 when he said HK21 I instantly thought of BO1 zombies
I think the reason why some are saying you sound like gerand thumb is because compared to your older vids you have been sounding more like him, like with the little pausing when talking type sound lol. Honestly i thought you were a new host or whatever for this channel for a minute lol, other than that though I still love your channel and have been watching since the beginning.
Both the G3 and Fal got me actin up
"They make good marksmans rifles"
That's literally the only reason why it was made and selected over the FAL. Damn that colonel Studler.
Imagine the G3/HK33 and FAL in 6.8SPC. That's essentially what would've been if it hadn't been for him.
As a user of the G3 rifle and an excellent marksman in the Greek army, I'd say I would pick it any day.
i’m just a little bit of a falklands nerd so i love the FAL platform and especially the l1a2
Love my FN-FAL my Primary
My favorite is SIG SG 510-1 in 7.5x55. I also shot with G3, M14 and Galil all in 7.62x51, but nothing felt better than SG 510. Iron sights were great but once you put on a scope it turns into top notch DMR, was more acurate than H&K SR9. Only downside is that cases gets scratched after shooting, tehnically you can still handload them but I don't do that and i dont find ammo to be particularly expensive. Oh, and I almost forgot to add that the gun was only 735 USD.
Owned and used all three at some point or another. And the only real answer is an AR-10. But of the listed rifles: G3 for war and M14 for fun
My mind was blown with AMAZEMENT at the camera panorama of his collection of weapons before he even opened his mouth are the safe!!!!!
I love all 3. You cannot beat the simplicity of the M14. Based on the M1 Garand. You cannot beat Beretta's remake of the M-14 into the Folding stock, lighter weight BM-59! You can take it apart in the field if need be by flipping the trigger guard forward. Its only got 7 parts #1 The rotating bolt. #2 The gas block and slide. #3 The recoil spring. #4 The trigger assembly. #5 The barrel and Chamber. #6 The magazine. #7 The Stock.
Not that I wouldn't kill to have a FN-Fal are a HK-G3 also. I wish my gun room resembled his!
I'd choose G3 for durability alone. Look at middle eastern conflicts like the Iran Iraq war and lebanese crisis. FALs found themselves tossed for aks while aks were being tossed for G3s which had durability alongside range.
Love your videos man, great vibes and great content
I own them all. Let's face it 308 style battle rifles are Doritos. Ya just can't have One 🎉. My favorite is The FN-FAL 50.63. Tough, accurate, reliable and super ergonomic. All are good investments that only are always increase I value. Good video Brother Man
I bought a FAL a while back and finally got around to buying a G3 recently since one came up for sale. Does anyone know where I can buy some furniture for it? It comes with the standard Green ones from the 60's and 70's but I want to also attack a bipod and carry handle to it along with scope and one of those nice grips you see on a PSG1. I literally can't find it for sale anywhere tho
On his website Larry Vickers lists the FAL has his favorite legacy main battle rifle but notes that the G3 is the most robust. In the weapon trials the US Picatinny Arsenal found that the G3 was the most reliable of all the battle rifles in mud and dust tests as well as it could be rebuilt more times than the FAL and the M14.
The G3 is so brutally tough and durable that it is even tougher and more-difficult to break than an AK47, and that's already an amazingly robust weapon. G3s were popular, according to military histories about that time, in various insurgencies and 'bush wars' in Africa in the 1960s-1970s, since many of the mercenaries and other untrained fighters didn't always perform cleaning and field maintenance as they ought to have done. And Africa is tough on equipment anyway, even when it is well cared for.
I've been fortunate enough to build two fal kits. A Brazilian imbel kit on a imbel gear logo and an stg58 kit on a gear logo also. The stg was my favorite and I wish I could get it back now.
I carried the FNC1A1 for 7 years as a grunt. It was reliable and accurate but recoil was pretty harsh and heavy for its size.
Most people don't know that the FAL was originally designed for the 7.92 x 33 round not the 7.62 Nato.
FN had to do some re-engineering after the US insisted that all Nato forces use the 7.62.
I have no first hand experience with the G-3 but, I hear it's a good boom stick.
The M-14 is a very capable rifle even though it's simply a modified M-1.
Re: "The M-14 is a very capable rifle even though it's simply a modified M-1."
Actually, there is more to the M-14 than meets the eye. It is an improved M-1, to be sure, and that is obvious in its lineage and the various parts that it shares with its combat-tested "parent" - sights, trigger group, rotating bolt operating system, etc. However, the M-14 fixed two of the fairly significant drawbacks or parts of the Garand that were showing their age, namely the gas system and its loading system.
The en-bloc loading system - which was top-load/top-eject - made using an optic on an M-1 problematical in that it had to be off-set (typically to the left) to allow the loading and unloading of the rifle. The box magazine system of the M-14 fixed that problem, so it is a relatively simple matter to add an optic or scope to an M1A/M14.
Second, the gas system of the M-1, which was 1920s-1930s technology - worked well and was pretty robust, but it lacked any sort of gas cutoff or valve, which meant that whatever pressure the shot generated was passed on to the gas piston system via the operating rod. Consequently, M-1 rifles are sometimes picky about what ammunition they prefer, namely loads using IMR-4895 or 4064 (or the canister grade equivalent) and bullets in the 147-175-grain weight range. If you use modern high-pressure 30-06 hunting loads in an M-1 rifle, you can bend or even break the op-rod.
The M-14 system uses an elegant self-adjusting/self-compensating gas system that has automatically bleeds off excessive pressure once the gas piston has been actuated and the op-rod moved to the rear to cycle the action. The system uses only that amount of pressure needed to work the action, but no more. It is superior to the manual adjustment of the FN FAL, because it requires no manual operation and is self-compensating and self-adjusting.
This means that the M-14 is much more tolerant of different types and manufactures of ammunition than its parent design, the M-1, and it is better able to compensate for different pressure curves shown by different loads. Like the M-1, it "likes" IMR-4895 or IMR-4064 best, but it will handle a wider range of burn rates well.
The caliber change to 7.62x51mm NATO M80 Ball meant that the individual cartridge was shorter and lighter than the old M2 Ball 30-06 round, which saved weight and space, yet its performance was virtually identical at least in that weight range of 147-150 grains at ~ 2800 fps at the muzzle.
The M-14 was select-fire but quite quickly, it was learned that its best operation was in semi-auto almost all the time. Like the FAL and G3, the M-14 did not make a very good general-purpose machine gun since it lacked a QD barrel system, and could not be fed from belted or boxed ammo. It was fine as an occasional use automatic rifle, but was used in semi-auto almost exclusively from that point on.
The rear sights on an M-14 are similar to those on an M-1, except the former are graduated in meters, whereas the latter are in yards. The M14 sights go out to 1100m, and the M-1's to 1200 yards.
I will add that commonwealth FALs had 30 rounder options technically. The L4 Bren had 30 round magazines that were 100% compatible with commonwealth pattern FALs. And they can be modified to work in other FALs as well.
I'm From Iran And 2 Years I Lived with G3 Druing the My Military Service in Iranian Navy,. G3 is Very Heavy and Powerful Riffle
FAL everyday anyday! amazing for long range accurate fire.
Carried a version of the FAL as an infantryman in the Canadian Army in the '80s. Never let me down. I was still in the armed forces when we transitioned to the c7 5.56 mm, and I preferred my old FNC1A1
Had both UK SLR and the Canadian C1 in my service years. I actually prefer semi auto as I was trained In the British Army under the Marksmanship principles. Spray and pray just isn’t my thing. Of course as a UK army cadet we had the Lee Enfield no4, Sten, Bren, Browning Hi-Power. Canadian gun rules just take all that kind of option away from you. SLR if I had a choice
I’m biased, but I would take the FAL with my limited knowledge- I own ONE AR-15 and I chose an FN tactical ii Carbine DMR (geiselle single stage trigger and 18” barrel) and I love it to pieces. FN made me a believer with that AR and my limited rifle knowledge. I compete in USPSA pistol competitions and know my way around a pistol much more than a rifle or a pcc, but that FN FAL would make me a rifle guy if battle came knocking on my door and I had no choice - alongside my FN 15 which I love. Love your content and love the ASMR videos so much. These are even better, when I get to learn from someone who is passionate about what they’re talking about and have a natural love for guns like we do. You would fit right in , here in America! 👊🏼🇺🇸hope all is well in Canada 🇨🇦 🍁! Shoutout from California.
love the small versions...I see that you also love it when a plan comes together👍👍🇺🇸🇨🇦
Between these 7.62x51 Assault Rifles I would go for the G3 because you can get derivatives of the platform in 9mm MP5 5.56x45 HK33. Since you're from Canada this is simply comparing a G3 to a C1 SLR Canadian FN FAL
I haven't shot those exact guns sp hard to give my opinion.. Thanks for sharing brother much love and respect from Colorado!!💪👊🍻
Scar 17 is my choice and in my inventory. Second choice would be the M 14.
I used the FN LA L1 back in the day( 1974-93) , with no flash arrestor, all wood . Against mud buildings or walls it’s knocked the hell out of it and there was no real hiding place . Also against light armoured vehicles and that era body armour it’s stood up well .
I really enjoy your videos
Oh and you have a damn impressive collection my friend
G3 is my preferred weapon. Back in New York during the late 80's my primary hunting rifle was my HK91A3.
The UK military folding charging handles are surprisingly nice to use and make the weapon look sleeker.
Top three gun people on UA-cam is Arm & Gun,Canadian Classic and Grand Thumb.
If i were infantry i would definitely pick the FAL, but for a marksman role the m14 would probably be the pick
I've owned a G3. I didn't like it.. It was heavy, had a heavy trigger, the rifle was not terribly accurate, and the roller design made reloading .308 a non-option. I have friends who have M1A1s - and their complaint is that you have to put a lot of money into them, in order to make them accurate - or they can be finicky.. I now own an FAL ( my second one ) and - it's pure love. It's accurate ( my newest 18" rifle from DSA can shoot 1 MOA with 168 gr reloads ), it's reliable ( with metal magazines ), and while it does have some weight to it - it does come in lighter configurations.
Thus, I am quite affectionate regarding the FAL.
Second choice would be the G3, and 3rd would be the M1A1.
I like seeing other people's opinions. I've just started my collection a year ago or so. So I really only have a custom built AR15 and a couple of handguns. I like seeing why people come to their opinions regarding guns I consider purchasing.
This whole video has me drooling
Seems like the FAL has the most optimal operation with the locking bolt on the last round. If you want to be practical, the FAL seems like the best choice but I see a lot of people love the G3. As much as I love the M14 and would definitely rely on it in the field, I have my eyes set on that nice German piece. Would like to shoot them first though.
STGW57 deserves to be in this conversation.
The G3, still a great design decades later and still the standard issue weapon of the Iranian military for a reason.
I used all 3 of them stock and modified. talking about stock, easier to use and operate, for sure i choose the FN.
Wow! That's quite a candy store you've got there buddy!
Of all three, I'll take the G3 best sights, runs in lumpy mud, and best hip shot.
It's all business.
gotta love the asmr section 💯💯
I got a keymod FAL which is great for modernized standards honestly. I got a nice red dot, foregrip, suppressor, overall best gun I’ve found.
served in the Norwegian army in the early 90s. Then we used G3, or AG3, which was the name in the Norwegian armed forces. A robust and reliable weapon.
my teacher once asked me if i could tell him one weapon i would use in a SHTF situation, he followed his question with "you're wrong either way, because you've never used a G3, that's the only gun you need!" so because of that i always name the G3 "the only gun you need" i found it funny because it reminded me of the "you only need six shots" quote XD
Cetme Por Vida lol
Cool video
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Your vocal cadence is similar to Garand Thumb
The FN FAL is hands down the ultimate culling equipment. Accurate. Powerful. Rugged. Reliable. High quality engineering. Man's best friend. May be a bit on the heavy side, but the weight helps keep the business end down when you click it over from ABC to fully fluent.
The wood (beautiful feel and lookl stocks and furniture were ok, the bakelite furniture ok, but the synthetic ones really nice.
The G3 i found to be a bit finicky and the mags a bit of a problem. More suited to golf course wars for the clean shaven suit and tie boys.
During my service, the G3A3 i was issued had the same age as me. Never jammed once and it had its fair share of dirt, dust etc. Accuracy-wise you could hit center target with iron sights form very long distances. I've handled a FAL and honestly liked the rifle, but I wouldn't trade my G3 for the world.
Fn fal. Right Arm of the Free World. Germany also wanted the FN Fal but Belgium said no because of ww2.
I served in vietnam war and the M-14 is the best battle rifle made. M-16 colt wad issued to all troops there . The bullet was to small for the jungle follage just bounce around. Lz X-ray pleiku.
I have had all three for decades and have had many versions of them. Even with the long outreach to cock the rifle, no last round BHO and heavy recoil compared to the others, the G3 has always been my pick. It's handier for me, mags in the states were at one point $1 and are still less than $10, more accurate (with an optic) and it's just so damn beautiful.
It would all depend on what I am doing in battle, If I am laying down cover fire, I would chose the Bren, but if I'm trying to make precise shots, then the Fal.
AR10 and SIG SG 510 hiding in the corner:
The G3 you have has got a front stock I associate with the PSG1. Not sure if I used a newer version of the G3 or if you have a replica, but I think it would matter a bit. I haven't tried all of these rifles, but the G3 I had when I started my service was durable as f*** and accurate as well. I know the latter bit depends on a lot of things, but even with just the iron sights it was amazing. My G3 was 20 years old when I got it and still never failed me. Later on, as I got into another unit, we tried all sorts of stuff, but not the FAL or M14, sadly.
The Garand and Enfield could definitely be considered the left and right arms of the free world during and after the WWII period.
The FN FAL, or the L1A1 SLR to us Brits... even limited to Semi-Auto it was still a beast.
And while I know they're rarer than a rocking horse pooping out a golden egg, over there... I'd love to get your opinion on the L85A1/SA80A1 lol
I've used Turkish version of G3 A3 in different situations during my service. I would preffer G3. However, I've seen an amazing version of G3 at your shorts. I would definetely preffer that!
Rumour had it you could use the Bren mag in a FAL with a beefed up spring due to not being gravity fed!
now what if you turned the FAL upside down
Do you have to have a broken wrist to shoot the FAL?
the grip is oddball AF lol
FAL it was the gun I learned to shoot and used in the army
This is heaven. Id do anything to be in that room for ten minutes
I have all three - all three of mine are Springfield Armory M1A ( M14 ) SAR 8 ( HK91 ) LICENSED - SAR 4800 - FAL ( LICENSED ) All run fine ! Buy what you want ! LOLOLOLOLOL
I would happily take a FAL. Its my favorite rifle. Granted, this is the opinion of someone who hasn't shot one, but they fit into my grip and hold like a glove, and they look amazing
Dude, I’m so impressed that a fellow Canadian owns these, much of us want these fancy toys. One day, just not today
The difference between select fire and full auto is actually academic.
My DS Major at the School of Infantry was an Australian who'd served in Vietnam.
He said one day a VC just materialised in front of him.
Gave him such a fright he'd emptied the full 20 rounds into him before he dropped.
Amazing what adrenalin will do!
Also, it's all very well blazing away in the general direction at range on full auto - but someone has to, hopefully, resupply you....
FN FAL, G1 - FN FAL, Heckler & Koch G3, are assault riffles with big bullets, good stopping power, stable fire rate on semi & decent full auto, manageable recoil, decent accuracy,
M-14 is the true battle rifle, very good stopping power, stable fire rate on semi but bad not full auto, more recoil then the M1, very accurate
Both have good bayonets
Member of the G3 cult here, will pick the G3 any day. FAL is also cool.
I like the G3 for reliability of the roller delay system, and the FAL for its ergonomics and feel when firing. I don’t care for the M-14, for reasons, I don’t like how it shoots or how it feels to carry.
Also the M-14 was only in active use as the standard service rifle for 7 years (before it was replaced by the M-16) whereas the G3 (and it’s derivatives) and the FAL are still in use as standard service rifles today.
The M-14 was only the standard issue rifle for seven or so years, but that's only if you count its service as the standard infantry weapon. Even in that role, the troops in Europe facing Warsaw Pact forces kept theirs into the 1970s before swapping out for M-16s. But that doesn't take into account the use of the M-14 right down to the present as a precision/sniping weapon by various forces; in USN and USCG arms lockers; and by special ops forces such as U.S. Army Special Forces and the Navy SEALS. They're finally being retired, but today there are still M-14s in the inventory, which means that they have served for more than sixty years. Not bad, in anyone's book.
Suit yourself, of course, though....