The Hood wasn't sunk via plunging fire like everyone thought; the ships were *FAR* too close. I recommend Drachinifel's video on the sinking of the Hood.
@seand.g423 Yeah . I only spent about a year in Poland. But other than knowing that. I know about enough polish to order a drink and get into a bar fight.
You know you’ve been watching too many videos on this channel when you hear that silly horn noise when he mentions that a cruise ship had joined the hunt, and all you can think about is a massive cruise ship packed to the rafters with clones of Kaldor Draigo, all of them shouting with one voice “ORDO DRAIGO PRESENT! WE WILL PROVIDE THE HAMS!!!!!”
16:57 it is not singled out, all polish navy WWII ships are remembered and many names are used Błyskawica is by far more remembered, it is the only ship to recieve the Order of Virtuti Militari, the highest polish military distinction
In World War Two, destroyers lived by the motto "Live fast, die young, and take as many enemies with you as possible." I'm new to the channel, so I don't know if you already reviewed it, but Drachinifel's video on the Battle off Samar is a great summary of the ur-example of this, but Piorun's exploits against Bismarck are a close second.
But here’s the thing USS Johnston didn’t live to tell the tale, was not alone just in the lead and Yamato was a piece of shit. Piorun lived against Bismarck which while not the invincible death machine wehraboos say it was, was a far superior design to hotel Yamato. And Piorun had a very successful career after Bismarck. That’s why I think Piorun’s story is better.
@@jdog345 ...if you think that Bismarck was a better battleship than Yamato, I'm afraid you've been drinking the wehraboo kool-aid too. Bismarck was the best World War *One* battleship ever to put to sea, whereas Yams was a good-but-not-great World War Two design. Basically, thanks to the Treaty of Versailles bringing German battleship design to a screeching halt after WW1, Bismarck was about 20-25 years behind the times, while Yamato was a modern design (maybe two years behind the latest and greatest from the US) that made up for the faults in its design with sheer mass. Piorun and the escorts of Taffy 3 both have great stories to tell, and I don't know how any of them stayed afloat supporting such massive balls, but let's not forget that A) Bismarck was, honestly, the inferior ship in a comparison with Yamato, and 2) even if you disagree with the first point, there were, y'know, three other capital ships (Nagato, Kongo, Haruna) and a whole bunch of cruisers present at Samar, any of which could have wrecked the Taffies' shit with a single shot, so...
@@rdfox76 No Yamato was a big slow hulking target with guns prone to malfunctioning and in even more shoddy radar rangefinder, that was somehow even less sustainable design for the IJN than Bismarck was for Kriegsmarine. Not to mention she was commanded by an idiot who sabotaged any mission she was attached to be requesting far more support than she needed leaving other sections vulnerable, took way to long to stop using AP against Johnston, which is the only reason she lasted as long as she did, and ran from any fight that she might get hurt in, although that last one was more high commands fear of losing her than the actual crew. I’m not saying Bismarck was a great ship, I’m saying Yamato was worse.
10:54 I'm pretty sure, on top of average damage, the Prince of Wales took a shell that went through the deck above the bridge, without exploding, and killed everyone in it(the deck above the bridge that is).
A point of contention: The HMS Hood was a Battle(Cruiser), not a battleship. She was not as heavily armored as a proper battleship, along with a few other tradeoffs. The British preferred their battlecruisers that way. You'd think they would have learned from Jutland. That being said, every ship had wood plating over their weatherdecks. Even the Iowas. Mostly because good weatherized coatings with grippy-grippy hadn't been invented yet. But yes, you are right in that the main deck armor was not made for plungey-plungey fire and Hood had the kind of Bad Day that will be remembered for a very long time to come. The whole renaming thing is kind of a naval tradition all around from what I understand. The practical reason is that in the Bad Old Days a ship's name was the ship's rep. If you knew the name, you knew what kind of a reputation a ship had. Renaming a ship was generally to try and hide what a ship had done. You know, trying to avoid letting people know that a ship was a deathtrap, or insurance fraud, or that you'd stolen the damn thing and the original owners were gonna show up to sink her. In mythological terms... sort of a similar thing to 40k (probably inspired them). Names have power. Use them wisely. A ship was enrolled in the ledgers of the gods of the sea, and changing the name was trying to hide it from the gods. Always a bad idea to invoke actual Hubris. Yes. Lazor-Pig does a spoof cover of a topical song for every video. And I do mean EVERY. Video.
Hood was weird. By British designation she was a battlecruiser but by statistics she could be argued to be the first fast battleship. The preceding Queen Elizabeth class battleships’ armour was broadly similar to Hood’s protection, including the much maligned deck armour. So Hood was just as armoured as a ‘proper’ battleship. And at the distances they fighting at plunging fire is unlikely to say the least. In fact it’s so unlikely that even the Germans didn’t bother calculating armour penetration due to plunging fire at those distances since they figured it was impossible.
Part of it was also due to advances in shells; as built, the Hood was well-protected against the sort of shells that the Hochseeflotte and the Reichsmarine had used, where the detonators were mounted in the nose of the shell, and had a contact fuse- by contrast, the shells the Bismarck had were heavier, used detonators that had timed fuses, and were set in the base of the shells; so when those shells hit the Hood, the armour plating that would have been more than adequate to defeat the older shells merely armed the timers on the heavy shells, which brute forced through the armour layers and set the fatal fire in the 4-inchers' magazine.
They did learn from Jutland. Hood had comparable deck armour to full fledged battleships of the same era. (Nvm that most of the ships that detonated at Jutland where already obsolete and had never been intended to fight in the main line of battle but hey, I know facts are difficult)
8:30 there was no 'free polish navy', there was only a polish navy. It isn't France, where there were 'free french' and other forces, there were just polish forces, there is no other 'polish navy' at that time to distinguish it from, it was literally the polish navy evacuated to birtain There wasn't 'vichy poland'
Wrong. No shot from Bismarck penetrated the deck of Hood. And they had a STEEL armored deck. To say it was wood is just wrong on so many levels. At the ranges she and Bismarck were trading shots, it would have been too close for any shot to penetrate the deck as none of Bismarck's shells exceeded 11 degrees when it hit. Hood had more than 3 inches of deck armor so for the situation she found herself in she had plenty of deck armor. And the location where the shell hit, at 11 degrees, it would have gone NO WHERE NEAR the deck. It would have trashed the admiral's cabin and come out the other side and into the sea. There was a splash in that side opposite Bismarck. For it to have hit there it would have had to pass through the Admiral's cabin. What killed the Hood was a hit to the SIDE, below the belt armor as when Hood was at speed, it created a trough in the general area, so without water there to activate the fuse, it had a path into the ship under the armor. People need to stop with this deck armor being too thin nonsense. They were too close and the German's own ginnery charts for the guns show that it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for the shell to penetrate Hood's deck.
Now that was ORP Piorun (The Thunderbolt). A humble destroyer. Now, Poland is to buy three new Swordfish-class frigattes. And their names are allegedly already decided: - ORP Burza (The Storm), - ORP Wicher (The Gale), - ORP Huragan (The Hurricane). Russian warships are certainly getting very nervous in the coming years. If one Polish destroyer could do THIS to Bismarck - think what three Polish frigates will do to the Russians. I mean Ukrainians ahev already sunk The Moskva, proud Russian heavy cruiser - and they don't even have any Navy to speak of...
14:10 likely apocryphal. There are contradictory stories and it is incredibly stupid that the conceit of this video became a partly legendary account That as opposed to say the ORP Błyskawica, a Polish Navy ship from before the war that went on to be the oldest destroyer museum ship in the world
Well Polish Orp Grom was sunked by German HE-111 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_Grom_(1936) That why the english goverment Give to Polish HMS Nerissa reneme To Orp Piorun. BTW Piorun actually mean Lightnig Grom it Thunderbold.
Dude. The channel isn’t named The old man. It’s called Old Man REACTS. If your that opposed to the biggest trend in UA-cam videos of the past 10 years, why in the hell were you watching a dedicated reaction channel instead of the original content in the first place?
Also the original has 280k views and this reaction only has 1.6k and I will bet that most of those views saw the original first so it’s not really a big deal
Lesson to learn: You better dont piss-off a Pole.
The Hood wasn't sunk via plunging fire like everyone thought; the ships were *FAR* too close. I recommend Drachinifel's video on the sinking of the Hood.
For memory isn't that sort of "this seems the most likely... but we can't be sure"?
@@MLaak86 Of course we can't ever be totally sure, but it's definitely not the '60 degree drop' plunging fire a lot of the 'diagrams' show.
@@5peciesunkn0wn Yeah, was commenting from a place of vague recollection - his proposed solution definitely makes a lot of sense.
Piorun means Thunderbolt in Polish.
Lightning bolt is Błyskawica in Polish.
So... the _actually fucking readable_ option means "thunderbolt"...
Got it.
@seand.g423 Yeah . I only spent about a year in Poland. But other than knowing that. I know about enough polish to order a drink and get into a bar fight.
You know you’ve been watching too many videos on this channel when you hear that silly horn noise when he mentions that a cruise ship had joined the hunt, and all you can think about is a massive cruise ship packed to the rafters with clones of Kaldor Draigo, all of them shouting with one voice “ORDO DRAIGO PRESENT! WE WILL PROVIDE THE HAMS!!!!!”
My favourite Kaldor Draigo line is *_"NO. SUN."_*
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 mine is "have you ever had a tangerine? *WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRY ONE?* "
Kaldor Draigo is the Chaos God created by Polish insanity. And I will have noone debate me on this.
No. USS Johnson n ORP Piorun. Ask Glasgow granmas.
Your fired
16:57 it is not singled out, all polish navy WWII ships are remembered and many names are used
Błyskawica is by far more remembered, it is the only ship to recieve the Order of Virtuti Militari, the highest polish military distinction
His analysis of the A10 Warthog is also interesting. That, or the one about a flying APC, forgot the name of that one.
Ahhhh the “Aero Gavin”, Mike Sparks’ most famous piece of bullshit
I don’t care what it’s supposed to be called, it will forever be the aerogavin in my heart
He doesn't have a bad video. Lol, lazerpig is the shit.
Aerogavin.
In World War Two, destroyers lived by the motto "Live fast, die young, and take as many enemies with you as possible." I'm new to the channel, so I don't know if you already reviewed it, but Drachinifel's video on the Battle off Samar is a great summary of the ur-example of this, but Piorun's exploits against Bismarck are a close second.
But here’s the thing USS Johnston didn’t live to tell the tale, was not alone just in the lead and Yamato was a piece of shit. Piorun lived against Bismarck which while not the invincible death machine wehraboos say it was, was a far superior design to hotel Yamato. And Piorun had a very successful career after Bismarck. That’s why I think Piorun’s story is better.
@@jdog345 ...if you think that Bismarck was a better battleship than Yamato, I'm afraid you've been drinking the wehraboo kool-aid too. Bismarck was the best World War *One* battleship ever to put to sea, whereas Yams was a good-but-not-great World War Two design. Basically, thanks to the Treaty of Versailles bringing German battleship design to a screeching halt after WW1, Bismarck was about 20-25 years behind the times, while Yamato was a modern design (maybe two years behind the latest and greatest from the US) that made up for the faults in its design with sheer mass.
Piorun and the escorts of Taffy 3 both have great stories to tell, and I don't know how any of them stayed afloat supporting such massive balls, but let's not forget that A) Bismarck was, honestly, the inferior ship in a comparison with Yamato, and 2) even if you disagree with the first point, there were, y'know, three other capital ships (Nagato, Kongo, Haruna) and a whole bunch of cruisers present at Samar, any of which could have wrecked the Taffies' shit with a single shot, so...
@@rdfox76 No Yamato was a big slow hulking target with guns prone to malfunctioning and in even more shoddy radar rangefinder, that was somehow even less sustainable design for the IJN than Bismarck was for Kriegsmarine. Not to mention she was commanded by an idiot who sabotaged any mission she was attached to be requesting far more support than she needed leaving other sections vulnerable, took way to long to stop using AP against Johnston, which is the only reason she lasted as long as she did, and ran from any fight that she might get hurt in, although that last one was more high commands fear of losing her than the actual crew. I’m not saying Bismarck was a great ship, I’m saying Yamato was worse.
definition of too angry to die
Pretty much.
10:54 I'm pretty sure, on top of average damage, the Prince of Wales took a shell that went through the deck above the bridge, without exploding, and killed everyone in it(the deck above the bridge that is).
Actually it went through the bridge and killed almost everyone except the captain and 2 others
I'd highly recommend Lazerpig's video on America's missing nukes, it's worth watching for the outro at least, let alone the rest of it.
A point of contention: The HMS Hood was a Battle(Cruiser), not a battleship. She was not as heavily armored as a proper battleship, along with a few other tradeoffs. The British preferred their battlecruisers that way. You'd think they would have learned from Jutland. That being said, every ship had wood plating over their weatherdecks. Even the Iowas. Mostly because good weatherized coatings with grippy-grippy hadn't been invented yet. But yes, you are right in that the main deck armor was not made for plungey-plungey fire and Hood had the kind of Bad Day that will be remembered for a very long time to come.
The whole renaming thing is kind of a naval tradition all around from what I understand. The practical reason is that in the Bad Old Days a ship's name was the ship's rep. If you knew the name, you knew what kind of a reputation a ship had. Renaming a ship was generally to try and hide what a ship had done. You know, trying to avoid letting people know that a ship was a deathtrap, or insurance fraud, or that you'd stolen the damn thing and the original owners were gonna show up to sink her. In mythological terms... sort of a similar thing to 40k (probably inspired them). Names have power. Use them wisely. A ship was enrolled in the ledgers of the gods of the sea, and changing the name was trying to hide it from the gods. Always a bad idea to invoke actual Hubris.
Yes. Lazor-Pig does a spoof cover of a topical song for every video. And I do mean EVERY. Video.
Hood was weird. By British designation she was a battlecruiser but by statistics she could be argued to be the first fast battleship. The preceding Queen Elizabeth class battleships’ armour was broadly similar to Hood’s protection, including the much maligned deck armour. So Hood was just as armoured as a ‘proper’ battleship. And at the distances they fighting at plunging fire is unlikely to say the least. In fact it’s so unlikely that even the Germans didn’t bother calculating armour penetration due to plunging fire at those distances since they figured it was impossible.
@@laggerstudios3392 Drachinifel has a pretty good video on the sinking of the Hood if you want a more in depth look at it.
@@killjoy1887 I have actually
Part of it was also due to advances in shells; as built, the Hood was well-protected against the sort of shells that the Hochseeflotte and the Reichsmarine had used, where the detonators were mounted in the nose of the shell, and had a contact fuse- by contrast, the shells the Bismarck had were heavier, used detonators that had timed fuses, and were set in the base of the shells; so when those shells hit the Hood, the armour plating that would have been more than adequate to defeat the older shells merely armed the timers on the heavy shells, which brute forced through the armour layers and set the fatal fire in the 4-inchers' magazine.
They did learn from Jutland. Hood had comparable deck armour to full fledged battleships of the same era. (Nvm that most of the ships that detonated at Jutland where already obsolete and had never been intended to fight in the main line of battle but hey, I know facts are difficult)
Love the fact that the Norwegian National Anthem was played in the background of the ad, especially as I am Norwegian.
I AM DYING OF LAUGHTER
If you want more info on the story of Bismarck and Piorun, Animarchy does a great video going over the events
Valhalla and Sto'Vo'Kor will have to share custody of the Piorun.
=O
" OK, you shadow, I harass!"
8:30 there was no 'free polish navy', there was only a polish navy.
It isn't France, where there were 'free french' and other forces, there were just polish forces, there is no other 'polish navy' at that time to distinguish it from, it was literally the polish navy evacuated to birtain
There wasn't 'vichy poland'
Poland went to space ... Mirosław Hermaszewski was the man.
Poland has been to space but I don't think they made an orbital or sub-orbital class. sława Polska nonetheless.
@@corwintipper7317 'sława Polska' is not any kind of grammar, even the words are wrong
Chwała Polsce would make some sense
@@mareksicinski3726 Gramatyka nie istnieje w Polskim, jeśli rozumiesz to nie ma problemu + jestem pewien że "sława Polska" to normalne zdanie.
@@rapson158nie.....nie jest, nie polska tylko polsce prosta gramatyka z podstawówki
Wrong. No shot from Bismarck penetrated the deck of Hood. And they had a STEEL armored deck. To say it was wood is just wrong on so many levels. At the ranges she and Bismarck were trading shots, it would have been too close for any shot to penetrate the deck as none of Bismarck's shells exceeded 11 degrees when it hit. Hood had more than 3 inches of deck armor so for the situation she found herself in she had plenty of deck armor. And the location where the shell hit, at 11 degrees, it would have gone NO WHERE NEAR the deck. It would have trashed the admiral's cabin and come out the other side and into the sea. There was a splash in that side opposite Bismarck. For it to have hit there it would have had to pass through the Admiral's cabin. What killed the Hood was a hit to the SIDE, below the belt armor as when Hood was at speed, it created a trough in the general area, so without water there to activate the fuse, it had a path into the ship under the armor. People need to stop with this deck armor being too thin nonsense. They were too close and the German's own ginnery charts for the guns show that it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for the shell to penetrate Hood's deck.
its the thunderbolt
You NEED to watch The Great Ocean Liner Duel of 1914 and stick around after the credits.
Everybody gangsta untill polish ship comes is
this is like taffy 3 vs yamato
Taffy 3 vs the Yamato and all her friends.
its better bc these crazy bastards wanted revenge for their fallen country :D
@@Isolder74 all the friends still alive at the time
Except more personal and a better ship
now you know of Johnston's polish cousin
I am not sure who the legend started with but this was amazing! that song will do fine while drinking some beer.
Qa'pla, Piorun!
yIghoS jIHnuch!
That still only counts as one!
Actually this is how i imagine Benny Hill at the end with this music :)
Now that was ORP Piorun (The Thunderbolt). A humble destroyer.
Now, Poland is to buy three new Swordfish-class frigattes. And their names are allegedly already decided:
- ORP Burza (The Storm),
- ORP Wicher (The Gale),
- ORP Huragan (The Hurricane).
Russian warships are certainly getting very nervous in the coming years. If one Polish destroyer could do THIS to Bismarck - think what three Polish frigates will do to the Russians. I mean Ukrainians ahev already sunk The Moskva, proud Russian heavy cruiser - and they don't even have any Navy to speak of...
Hood didn't suiffer a deck penetration, that has been fairly well proven.
14:10 likely apocryphal. There are contradictory stories and it is incredibly stupid that the conceit of this video became a partly legendary account
That as opposed to say the ORP Błyskawica, a Polish Navy ship from before the war that went on to be the oldest destroyer museum ship in the world
7:16 BATTLECRUISER. NOT BATTLESHIP.
It is not a legend but fact
Bismark was Germany's Admiral Kuznecov
That is not actual the reason hood blew up look at dandrafields video
Drackinifel that’s the correct name
yup that's pretty slavic ... what can you expect from a nation that is location in the region that is set to survivor mode all the time ?!
15:20 without using its torpedoes though
You should react to the battle of Samar
m the hood had metal deck it was no a think one but there was meatal
I do know who I am
World of warshits
Papa can I be a boats person?
Well Polish Orp Grom was sunked by German HE-111 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_Grom_(1936) That why the english goverment Give to Polish HMS Nerissa reneme To Orp Piorun. BTW Piorun actually mean Lightnig Grom it Thunderbold.
lightning = błyskawica
piorun = thunderbolt
@@thesecondchillguy5697 fellow polak ?
@@The_Tech_Priest Indeed. Fellow rodak.
and
grom = thunder
8:54 wtf is he talking abt xd
also why is he pronouncing 'Piorun' as 'prion'?
Because it’s Polish, that’s why.
6 mins in andd its just an add
I have decided we can be friends. I give you the gift of subscription.
What's funny in real brave?
What was this???
You literally stole his video 😡 you added nothing to it. You just played his video and watched it.
Reporting you for copyright.
It’s a reaction video and credit was given to LazerPig. This is protected under UA-cam’s copyright policy not prevented by it.
@@Mire-Drive well it shouldn't be. Reaction videos are the worst.
At lest add content to the original video, dont just link it.......
Dude. The channel isn’t named The old man. It’s called Old Man REACTS. If your that opposed to the biggest trend in UA-cam videos of the past 10 years, why in the hell were you watching a dedicated reaction channel instead of the original content in the first place?
Also the original has 280k views and this reaction only has 1.6k and I will bet that most of those views saw the original first so it’s not really a big deal
shut up 🇵🇱
Poland can into space. Mirosław Hermaszewski.