Tales of Phantasia - The Greatest SNES RPG?
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
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What was the most memorable part of Tales of Phantasia to you?
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The very first battle. It was so unlike anything I had ever played before. In a game with dozens of memorable moments (only some of which were due to the fantastic-yet-oft-inappropriate-for-younger-players-involving-tigers-or-ropes translation), that's the one which stands-out the sharpest.
It was a fresh breath of air after playing all turn based snes rpgs I consecutively played like ff 4-6, Chrono Trigger and Lufia 2
Countless memorable moments since Tales of Phantasia was way ahead of it's time, but one of the most memorable moments would have to be when the flying demon army was bearing down on Migdar, so you hop onto Odin's steed with Arche and take to the skies to wipe them out.
It has a lot, but i think it was bette appreciated back un the day, the combination of sad moments, respite fun moments and plot twits was pretty good and much unseen at that point. The thing is many of the things it did are common nowadays in other tales of and jrpg games.
Honestly, as a child, I remember a scene on a boat, describing Archie's behavior in the bedroom. I was about 13 and found this utterly hilarious.
Loved finally being able to play this on PS1 -- seeing the screenshots in the SNES days was mouthwatering.
The action-oriented battle system was really unique for the time and has now become industry standard.
For real, one of the best. Very innovative in the genre with its battle system, and so ahead in the system technically.
This was one of the first if not the first SNES game to have a fully-voiced intro theme. This game was absolutely beautiful but it could be brutal at times and the enemy encounter rate was much higher than several other RPGs of that time.
I beat this when I was a fetus.
@@Sandman_Slim I'm your dad.
I remember saving up and buying a copy from an importer out of the back of EGM for like $80. Didn’t know a fucking bit of Japanese and I still played the game all the way through. Absolute fucking masterpiece and the most unique rpg experiences I’d ever had until TWEWY came out.
In addition to having way better controls and crisper graphics and sound, the PlayStation version adds several new summons and boss fights, a second melee character (Suzu), and gives Chester a suite of skills instead of having him only be able to attack.
It also lets you map party member skills to certain buttons, greatly broadening your tactical options (hint: mapping Klarth's and Arche's weakest spells to your hotkeys let's you really go through the Shadow dungeon, because while the monsters there can spam their big spells faster than you can cast your big spells, the weak spells come out practically instantly and interrupts the enemies' casting (Dhaos uses a similar gimmick against you during his fights).
Thanks for this added info!
Every single video on this channel is an absolute BANGER.
I've played Chrono Trigger too but Tales of Phantasia is a Masterpiece. I still cant forget this game, i've played countless games but this one has amazing story telling, references etc it's a true masterpiece.
For the longest time, the best translation to look out for was Phantasian Productions, everyone had many high hopes for it, because at the time it seems they were the only ones who could do it. I remember their forums were so bustling and popular, and they were taking their time. Years passed by but still everyone was still eagerly anticipating for its release.
When Absolute Zero from nowhere suddenly released their TOP Translation, seemingly overnight, Phantasian Productions forums almost DIED immediately. Suddenly, no one was interested in them anymore. When they did eventually release their translation, no one really seemed to care anymore. Since then they keep announcing new projects, but no one really took them seriously anymore and it slowly died and faded into obscurity. :)
Dejap did a good job too, i played their translated version.
@@PsychomachineryEBM dejap translation is trash. "I bet Arche fucks like a Tiger".
How different was there translation gonna be from Absolute Zero? And if the progress was about 90% they should've soldiered on regardless, IMO.
@@PsychomachineryEBM I'm gonna have to look it up, but didn't the Dejap script have flaws of its own, like some possible Woolseyisms? It was good and groundbreaking enough to be mentioned on the official game's Wikipedia article, but the subjective flaws, though.
DeJap butchered the script, literally.
The angle of the town map and the story's beginning reminded me of Sega's Shining Force. I was blown away by the AI's in the battlefield. It's real time, and the team mates really act on your strategy to play defense, offense, magic, healing etc. It's like in real life where you lay out the strategy but go with the flow or be surprised by their actions in battle. It makes you feel like the teammates have a mind of their own.
The PSP version is the best one to play for those who understand Japanese. Full voice acting + the skits + some other minor improvements over the PS1 version.
Tales of Phantasia the X (read: the Cross) that came bundled with Tales of Phantasia Narikiri Dungeon X is the definitive version
Oh, the game with godly fansubbing
Arche f***s like a tiger
I feel like I'm 13 years old again every time I see that quote. XD
This is the Dejap translation, I hope the others are better.
I remember that.
I also think I remember she apparently got very drunk in one scene.
4:40 Incidentally, Star Ocean was the other of the two games that took up 48 megabits of space.
My absolute favorite SNES game of all time. This game was just a blast to play, albeit a tad on the long side.
The gba version was my first ever rpg and up to this day it's still one of my favorite games of all time the tales series is such a unique jrpg series that I just feel like no other jrpg scratches that particular itch
The first tales of game I really wish it had a remake
I loved this game. The Ancient Cities, the cycle of War, the moral implications of Daos' goal and how nature is viewed in the world are fantastic.
It really was great, and unfortunately how overlooked it was for North American gamers.
It’s my favorite Tales game and like no one really played it
I played Symphonia before I even knew Phantasia was a thing. My most memorable moment was hearing the music and recognising a lot of it from Symphonia, I thought that was super cool. Also noticing all the parallels between the games since Phantasia takes place after Symphonia. I would love if they made a game about the Kharlan Wars that took place before the story of Symphonia, but I know they never will.
That's interesting. I've been having a similar experience playing Ys after Ys origins.
Originally we were probably suppose to get that feeling playing Symphonia after playing phantasia, but experiencing the same things inverted.
I discovered and played the game on game boy advance, and it is definitely a solid title for that platform. Like many of the Final Fantasy ports, the tales port is pretty faithful while adding some minor quality of life changes. Not sure if it is available in the SNES, but on GBA you are able to disable spells that you don’t want your mages to cast. Which pretty much results in you disabling all of the spells that have really long animations despite how good they are. It doesn’t really hurt because most of the you’ll just be casting Thunder over and over once you get it. Short animation, hits EVERYTHING.
You can tell it is an ancestor to Star Ocean because Tri-Ace definitely carried over extensive spell animations. At the very least you can rejoice because the spell Southern Cross is not in Tales lol.
The most memorable part of the game for me is, surprisingly, the story. While it was definitely cliché in modern standards, it was quite new and innovative to me as a kid.
To add, it was the FIRST game that made me second guess myself if I'm the good guy for killing a man that only wanted to save both his AND my own characters' world. That's what made the story memorable for me.
The sound test in general, but specifically that song with the horribly compressed vocal track. impressive af for a super famicom game
You can never have enough reviews of this game on UA-cam....
Having played that game not much longer after my first full play through of Chrono Trigger. I couldn't help but feel the similarities between the time periods and what you do in one having an effect in others. One of the later side quests were focused entirely on that, much like Robo's ridiculously long time spent curating the land for that side quest. How it changed an entire area to be very different in the "present" world. Really set the stage for later Tales games, particularly the spirits not just being cool summons but also actual god-like beings in the world with a whole legion of lesser variants.
The color palette, the music, the character art and design, the combat system everything was and still is the most unique looking things of all time right there with Chrono trigger and secret of mana 2
Tales of Phantasia looks Phantastic!
"But Arche F**ks like a tiger"
I bought the Gameboy version some years ago knowing almost nothing about it and I love it
Sometimes the jockeying back and forth on the battle screen could be frustrating; like when your characters are moving but you can’t see it.
One of the very best for sure!
I remember the first time I tried to go through it... The patched rom at that time (around 2000/2001) was most of the time plagged by the infamous "chicken bug", turning every item in your inventory in "chicken" at some point (around the Midgard attack), even the sorcerer's ring, making the game unplayable!
Very frustrating :p
Fortunately some proper patches appeared, and I was able to enjoy most versions of the game (SNES/psone/GBA) since then :D
"Fighting of the spirit" is the best fucking boss songe ever!
UUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!! This happened to my rom all the time and i didn't finish the game for years. And every time I tried to pick it back up, the patch issues and other oddities would deter me until I finally lost the usb drive the rom was on and I had to patch a new one....and used a proper patch! Also I think the emulators needed some updates because of the sound chip on the cart. I forgot if it was ZSNES or SNES9X but one of them had issues with the rom because of that until a few years down the line.
I never knew about that Wolf Team story I always wondered why they were so similar. That WolfTeam story is tragic cuz now NamcoBandai is running with their idea birthing tons of Tales games with it
The most memorable for me
1. Complicated Dungeons such as Moria gallery, Treant Forest. I never play any RPG that have dungeon below the ground to 10+ floors. What the amazing dungeon.
2. the toilet in house. I never see any RPG that have almost toilets in the house.
Can you do a complete series review of the Tales games? Liking your reviews. Good channel.
It would take a long time, there's so many, but maybe in the future
Yeah, there are a lot. I haven't played them yet because I don't know where to start. Maybe if you did it by console generation? Just throwing out ideas.@@Xygor
This game looks cool and I wish I had had access to it when it first came out. My first Tales game was Destiny on the PSX.
In high school, I had a SNES emulator and a ton of games on a flash drive. We'd play in the computer lab. Tales of Phantasia was the most played game
The most memorable time I had was yelling "Press S!" when my friends should be using their special
It was also released on the GBA so there is an official translation too.
Yeah, but that's version is really awful though. Definitely don't play that one.
I Like the fact that having a new recruitable character in the PSX version is just tucked into "some other things". Wouldn't that be something worthy of mention?
Time traveling and the battle system is lit. Plus, the banter the characters share on the PSX version is fun to watch
Chrono Trigger, Terranigma,, Tales of Phantasia, and Legend of Mana 2 (aka Seiken Densetsu 3). Jesus christ, insane lineup.
So true! This system had some great RPGs.
Chester was totally useless to me and I never used him but I loved the fact that you got him back so much later in the game, a simple but fantastic feature i dont see much if at all these days
IIRC, he's fairly broken in the SNES version due to how fast he can shoot his arrows, while the PS1 version is less powerful, but way more fun to play because he has actual skills.
I think the best moment is returning to the present to save your friends before Dhaos can kamehameha them. Getting pwned by that tiny spike enemy that one-shots everyone but the flying witch in the deep mines is where I quit playing. Also, could never beat the later Dhaos fight. Hit him with a ton of Indignation spells and it was like the game was glitched so he wouldn't die. Then I later found out that there is a ninja girl and a ninja village that I completely missed out on because I had the SNES version instead of the PS1 version. Maybe I'll come back to this one some day.
oh yeah i remember this game so well, i remember i loved chrono trigger and dragon quests so much, but this one was my favorite becuase of the battle system, the music when fightin the elementals, euclid colisseum, i remember the reflection on the mirrors and water.. like a year ago i got to play tales of phantasia x for the psp, its super awesome.. i never played star ocean, but i knew about the game.. a friend told me about tales of phantasia and star ocean on the snes back then, not at the same time.. anyway im planning on getting star ocean remake or remaster for the nintendo switch..
I grew up on the GBA version but its unbearable distance between saves in the mid game coupled with embarrassingly unhelpful allies for hours of gameplay just killed it for me when I was old enough to finally beat the first boar boss. Didn't help that my cartridge was years old by the time I was 16 and able to comprehend an rpg and would crash randomly if I nudged the gameboy in the wrong way (very easy w how tiny the SP was) and would lose hours of progress. I still was blown away by it being one of the only games with extensive voice acting, quality aside, and more involved combat mechanics than the competition. It felt like an early spiritual predecessor to kingdom hearts to me and recently I've acquired the english patch on my Wii and have been loving the game and all the version differences, such as the running boots being unlocked by default in gba or the gba/psx melee combat being far stronger at juggling and dealing with airborne enemies. Still, the graphical upgrades and 100x bigger screen has been a delight and I can't wait to explore the rest of the tales series once I complete Phantasia.
Viktor, Pesmerga, Georg
Killey, Riou, Lorelei
My A Team ❤
This one blew me away! To me these are the best graphics on the snes, YoShi’s Island notwithstanding.
yes
as far as memories go, I think about the pegasus a lot
The gba port of this game is awesome and their linear motion battle system is awesome
It’s actually not a great port
This guy has a new greatest SNES rpg Weekly
Lower moria gallery without a save state option Is something of impossibile.
Forest of the Treat rocked
When i played it years ago it kinda reminded me more to Lufia than Final Fantasy. Anyway this one was alway my favourite snes game. I can get if you don't like micromanaging but is where the combat style shines, the idea is to use cless to keep enemies away from the other characters and use Arche and Klarth for element advantage. The characters are also pretty strong with the esception of Mint which is the weakest but i think Mint improves in the sequel (narikiri dungeon)
You left a question mark up there!
I eventually got a GBA copy of this after playing the original and it's like the PS1 version just minor graphics changes and sound font is different. Otherwise something to note is that was the first official English Translation and while fan projects did a decent job they did what a fair number of translations do and be too overly literal with it that certain things don't really make sense or have odd lose of translation in them, and then even the Japanese ends up not making sense. I think iOS and PSP use that translation too though I don't really know, don't have them. ^^;
Well, you're not missing much. The GBA version is the ONLY OFFICIALLY LOCALIZED version of the game and it's shit. The PSP version is a better version of the PS1, with full voice acting and other stuff, considered the best version of the game.
Yes, however the English-patched PS1 version is still currently the best to play *by far* if you don't know Japanese.
does anyone know the intro song that plays in all xygor videos
Magus' Theme from Chrono Trigger.
@@Xygor thank you
So it was the first Tales Of game?
..this was the last jrpg I've played in ages after just recently replayin chronotrigger.
...two words.. Random. Encounters.
Whew! But now it just may be time to go back n finish it.
..that is, after I beat Mother 1.
Why Namco hasn’t put this and other older tales of game on a completion is beyond me.
Oof that pronunciation of Dhaos hurt. It's pronounced like house with a D at the start. Otherwise, a solid video!
I've never played a Tales game, is this a good entry point to the series?
Absolutely
Lots of people say Symphonia, but I like the earliest ones! This or Tales of Destiny.
If you start late, going back can feel like everything feels limited with many things so I would say:
start with Eternia because it originated many of the tales of staples like cooking, having magic not pause the flow of battle and is more faster and aggresive, you can combo three normal attacks too and I feel the sense of adventure can be felt through the whole game, even if it was a 2D Tales game (imo, 2d tales games are awesome!).
If you want to play classic 3d titles, Symphonia or Abyss is a good start for the series.
If your absolutely curious about the series and are acostumed with retro games, Tales of Phantasia and Destiny is the way to go.
Want to play some past titles but are acostumed with later titles that has everything that tales is known for?
Tales of Destiny DC, Tales of Phantasia X.
@@Lungoomba21 wow thanks that's quite insightful, thanks for taking the time to write this
Thank you all for your feedback, i guess i'll start with either Phantasia or Destiny and then try Eternia
To answer your question; yes, yes it is the greatest RPG on the system. I own several copies to prove it.
I never know if there is going to be spoilers in review videos. Do you give warnings?
I'd say the PS1 version *is* the best version to play though, especially because it has the fan translation by Phantasian Productions, which is overall of much higher quality than the one by DeJap in my humble opinion. Don't play the GBA version, it sucks. I found that out the hard way when I was still a GBA kid.
Really sucks that Bamco won't give this game a modern remake nor remaster. Especially now when the Tales series is more popular than it ever was back then. Guess their controlling nature is coming back to bite.
True, hopefully they'll consider it someday!
Good game but I liked Star Ocean better.
I prefer the PS1 version of this game I can't stand the SNES versions battle system however the only official English version we got was the CRAPPY GBA version of the game that had a really horrible translation of the game but that version KEPT the PS1 versions battle system.
Wish they would Re-Release Tales of Phantasia, Destiny and Eternia to new consoles.
Instead they keep re-releasing Symphonia multiple times -_-
Disagree. Chrono Trigger is the best SNES game, hands down imo. And is only 32 megabits.