Immigrants in Germany - The next generation | People & Politics
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2012
- Once again, the German government has called a conference on Islam. But what is life actually like for immigrant communities in Germany? How do the different generations view life here today? A report on a family of Turkish descent in Berlin.
70% on social welfare...thats something
Everyone deserves welfare
@@normalhuman6581 No one deserves to be a freeloader with my tax money.
@@ultimateedgelord3586
Immigrants pay tax as well.. Doffus
2:36 If Grandmother suffer a lot from cultural shock, then why she is living in Germany? Isn't it bad for her?
+Wolfgang von Baumgärtner you germans should mixed with turks, it would be good for you...
There wont be a new Ottoman Empire, he must be a teenager or something so don't take him seriously.
However you are wrong with your assessment Turks in Germany had integration problem for some years but now they are exemplary immigrants their 3rd generation speaks perfect German and they work harder compared to other minorities in Germany. At least they are not guys in their twenties who escaped from war in their own countries coming here and causing criminal acts.
Wolfgang von Baumgärtner yes indeed
Wolfgang von Baumgärtner and what kind of shock?
Wolfgang von Baumgärtner egghead she enjoys the benefit of what German offers old pensions freedom ETC ETC
Anyone who is not comfortable in the country they move to should make it an effort to move back to their home country.
The older lady was more about conservative values and is a age factor rather than anything else. Everyones grandparents are conservative compared to the younger generation....
My neighbors here in Florida are Turkish..They are some of the nicest people..Whenever they have cookouts they bring me a variety delicious foods from their country...
Turks in the US are mostly secular! Completely different, in Germany most Turkish guestworkers came from poorer East regions and villages, very conservative.
integration !!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you do not want to integrate , go back to your old lands !!
There is no such thing as Integration. They should all be sent back.
I agree, I'm turkish from London. Its very disrespectful to not integrate and learn your new homelands culture and language. This is unacceptable anywhere. But you see the lack of integration with multiple cultures from around the world because the older generation usually move in with friends/family in similar neighbourhoods and because they are too old to fully grasp a new language. They do the easy thing, which is to stay in they're ethnic bubble and don't make attempts to mingle with the natives. I think the government has a major role to play in this integration, if you look at USA and Brazil, it is very multicultural however they created a culture which makes everybody an AMERICAN or BRAZILIAN. Also the media doesn't help with negative stories about the lack of integration. If there was more incentives to mix people up and create an image of "one" GERMANS, it would improve.
paul davies that’s true!
@nickys34 Die beste Idee war das aber auch nicht.
Nicht vergessen wir sind alle Zwangschristianisiert!
@nickys34 Christentum hat die Menschen verbessert? Erzaehl das mal den Ureinwohnern Amerikas oder den versklavten Africas
oder den Gefallenen der sog.Glaubenskriege 30jaehriger Krieg ,die Kriege in England oder der 8 Kreuzuege etc.
Mohamed hat den Islam zu einer Macht gemacht? Seit der Zeit sind die Beduinen und Araber im Dauerkrieg.Suni gegen Shia alle gegegen die kleineren Glaubensgruppen wie Sufi oder gegen Christen und Juden.
Religion hat nur Elend ueber diese Welt gebracht und das ist eine Tatsache.
I'd take this Erdoğan over the current one any day of the week.
When you are the 3rd generation in Germany, and you know your grandparents worked hard, your parents still work they a** off and pay taxes like everyone and you study to become a teacher...and still have to hear and read those nasty, racist comments about being turkish and how they not belong here or that you'll never be german no matter what...Well then Germany indeed feels like home! Thanks for the acceptance folks
I like Turkish people. In The Czech Republic there are not many people with Turkish origin. I think Turkish women are beautiful. :)
Dizikolik3 They’re Grandparents don‘t come to Germany!!!!!!!!!!!!!Their parents was the first Generation in Germany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dizikolik3 Nobody of them study and they even not work hard here!!!!!!!!Nobody of them work here in Europe!!!!!!!!!They all life here just from Social Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!They say in our faces,they don‘t want work here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Here is Europe not North-America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The Strangers in our country’s here are completely different than your Strangers in North-America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Stop that always named the Germans Racist!!!!!!!!When you hate the Germans just because they come from Germany,than you are a Racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤬🤬🤬👊🏼💥👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
Alex Rot Ich bin genau deiner Meinung!!!!!!!!!!!!!😃👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼❤️
Original Truthseeker81 They’re own of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😡🤬🤬🤬👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
" The next generation" It means they want to replace you.
Loser
Racist paranoia
@@normalhuman6581 I know right? These immigrants are so racist to their host country that they want to replace that population.
Right!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
BTW, the film was a very nice success story of integration. But what is the percentage of such nicely integrated families with immigrant background? 1%? 5%? 10%? Not much...
@@shivaspatel2024 ask the immigrants
The thing with the "%10" figure you're giving is that the people that are well integrated and practically native, almost always get ignored by the media when talking about these sorts of issues. I can't imagine a normal immigrant guy (aka almost all of them) getting any attention from mainstream media, because, you know, they're just normal people.
4:48 Finally, someone actually admitted that public religion isn't okay. Liberal secularism is giving some insane individuals the legal grounds to spread their nonsense, which is not something that should be covered by freedom of speech or freedom of conscience.
absolutely right. a liberal constitutional law doesn't permit you to undermine liberal values
This is the most ordinary thing in Canada.
I really think it boils down to economical problem: one people have a decent life and financial resources, meaning when there is growth to provide and sustain job creation, things go well.in one or two generations immigrants do not just integrate but literally assimilate as they evolve from proletarians two a the middle class.When there is no jobs,tensions show up and take every possible shape:religious, ethnic etc...
I read the comments and i hear what people say about germans in Germany I am very glad that I live in civilized country as Canada where we are so civilized and educated ourselves from racism and diversity that I feel sad for those who live in germany where handful of people are ignorant racist that think islam and turks or whatever aliens from outer space will one day takeover the country.
You should only refer to information you obtained first hand. Truth is Germany has one of the lowest rates of right-wing extremists in the world, even though we invented the Nazis ;) . One thing Germany has to deal with is a large group of imigrants who are unwilling or unable to integrate themselves into our society, combined with a heavily declining fertility rate amongst the German population. Nevertheless we are proud of our multi ethnic community and welcome everbody to join us, what perturbs people are imigrants who do not make an effort to become part of said community, yet still live here.
im happy that you spend so much on typing cause i aint gonna read it cause racists are stupid hence you are ignorant.
sciencelearnremember Can you write a big long and spend some time on writing a sentence to this comment? i would love to read it nott
***** from your writing i can clearly guess that you're a an idiot bigot.
***** Haha im not Turkish you idiot. I wish I was from there. Cause Turkey is beautiful.
Girls are very very beautiful pretty
Work is one of the best solutions to integration another not treat those that are born in the country to immigrant parent as immigrant but as equal citizens.
My point is that it should not be an issue having different nationalities living together on one spot in this world, it should not matter from where someone is... we should overcome our fears and prejudice and just see that these are not real problems. Arrogance mixed with surpressed anger and hate is very dangerous, lets remember how World War II...
Please come to Australia. You would be welcome!.
Lol
Seems fitting. For centuries Europe was spilling over the borders of other countries and now they're getting a bit back.
No idea where you think I'm from with all that mess you described. And going to a country killing people in the name of the Queen and then replacing their culture and language with your own isn't "better" to anyone except the people who do it. Those people would have been happy with their "boom boom sticks" and "big shadows" - believe it or not, your country didn't save anyone from anything.
you are right and I forgot to mention that it costs AUD30K+ for a permanent visa.
Austrialia? Nope, I don't want to die!
These girls are fine...well mother as well.
people need to get over it if you gonna move to another country u better get used of being in their culture not by ur previous culture. if i was gonna move to germany i would of course learn their culture be part of it rather saying this is not right etc etc
The reason Turkey was not allowed to join the EU is because they are muslim.
EU is a Christian only club.
Is that not true?
Of course!Right!And Turkey is not a European Country!
I don't think Germany is good place for people from Third World countries, especially for Muslims. Germans are not very friendly towards Muslims, also most Muslims lack the knowledge of German language and it is harder to learn it than for example English. I would suggest Muslims to go to North America, which is very nice place for work and study. Language is not a problem in US&Canada, there are lots of jobs, also anti-Muslim hysteria is almost non-existent in there
One is absolutely right:They should Immigrate to the USA and leave Germany forever!!!!
only in that district berlin in western germany its different nobody in my family lives on sociaal welfare actually many here are wealthy
according to wiki there are more than 4 million Turks. Anyway we don't have to sell islands. Many Germans visit every year our islands or visit our ancient monuments from classic Greece, from the Byzantine empire etc. Everywhere you step in Greece there are ancient monuments. Temples, castles, statues, ancient tombs etc. In case you didn't know it there are MANY Germans that have bought houses and land here to spend holidays
Dont mixup immigrants with refugees.Thats a total different story.
Today in Europe it‘s the same!
To much immigrants is bad for business.
Good for illegal Business!
what do you mean by the next generation
Islam is not to be blam its the person who is doing shit on the name of islam. Its just like book which tells you aspects of life in different ways. A man can be dangrous after playing sick fighting video games or start using drugs coz xyz is doing same who is blameable xyz or who strt using this. I am in U.K and free to do what is good for me nd harm less for any one. i prectice islam in my own way more freely then my home country. I dont have beard but pray. I have friends from othere religion and we dont have any type of arguments that why i am muslim or why they did this. We already have our own things to think and flourish ourselves then to think or talk about those who are doing some thing which is not related to us.
I am a free to go in clubs smoking chilling with hoes going to masjid. Am i bad person? If you think okay its your thinking and i dont have a single second to listen some thing from you about how i am coz its me who decide who i am and what i need to do and its up to me to take any book of islam Christianity, Jewish or any other from library and start reading.
So think this world is like a library and you are free to read but stay quite and dont distrub.
I wish you chose a book which is good for you and will not distrub others.
what makes you believe that I live in Germany? greetings to you from the old istanbul.
@just_meus They have too!They are strangers in Germany!Germany is the Homecountry from the Germans and not from the illegal Strangers!
Do you think it would be different if a German family would move to were they come ftom
it's incorrect. The correct form is "what does make you believe?"
I don't see why we should not prefer a well-balanced relationship between immigrants and their target countries. Today only the immigrants have their choice. They are free to decide where they want to go, and they pick a country. I think it is not OK that the target countries do not have the freedom of choice to decide whom they want to live with. Of course, race or skin colour may not be a reason to exclude anyone, but a personal interview is absolutely OK. Then it can be found out whether the would-be immigrant speaks the local language or not, if he is ready and willing to integrate or not, if he believes his parental culture and nation superior to the culture of his target country or not etc. Why should EU countries remain deprived of the freedom of choice concerning immigrants? Considering especially the fact that automatisation is spreading like wildfire in all industries, so much fewer workers will be needed in 10-20 years' time...
INTEGRATION !!!! KEY WORD.
As far as I can tell after only few sentences, and much non-perfect in English myself, your written English is at least different to that of other Americans and probably it sounds strange accent to them or is not used decently enough for academic purpose. You should either make it more even or learn to deal with the handicap. That's life. No matter there you from, learning decent English is not really difficult when you really use it on a daily basis, read the NYT two hours every day.
Far more turkish people live in Germany than in north america so many of them move to Germany because they have relatives already living there.
I empathize with their pain and isolationism. Help these poor useless people find their way home.
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Send them Israel, they need diversity.
Integration of migrants continues to be a problem across major cities in Europe, the situation is similar in the UK where some asian ethnic groups live in segregated communities (mainly Pakistani, Somali and Bangladeshi), but it is only through equal employment opportunities for all and fair education can these issues be resolved. The Indian community in the UK is well integrated within British society, first arriving in 1950s they are in all the top levels of politics, science, medicine, media and business.
Not everyone in the Indian community is intergrated. Of course. But im making the point that its taken subequent generations 50 years+ since they first arrived to become better intergrated. All it takes is time, education and equal opportunity which countries like Britain and the US have provided. The first indians that arrived in England worked manual labour in historic english textile mills or industrial factories. Now their grand kids are doctors, politicians, bankers and entrepreneurs. The CEO of Google today is of Indian Origin for example.
You've lost me. Give me some hard facts before you make such sweeping statements. Google, Microsoft, Diageo, Adobe, Mastercard, Pepsico, Reckitt Benkiser, I've just named a few but all these global giants have Indian CEOs and not because someone has given them an envelope stuffed with cash. They are globally listed companies on the stock market with strict regulations and auditing practices. These companies are the face of capitalism.
Ok but then the deeper issue of "pro american capitalism" you're pointing out isn't down to the fault of foreign new generation migrants is it?? Which makes me question the relevancy of your arguement given the context of my original statement about intergration? What are you trying to say exactly? The world may be a corrupt place but people are progessing whilst others fall back. Thats the nature of western capitalism. Not the fault of migrants but politicians and rich industrialists who pay these puppets to serve them. The white man invented it and the non-whites mastered it.
Somali people are not asians. You have a lot to learn from geography. Somalia and Greater Somalia( inhabited by somali ethnic people) are in Africa especially in Horn of Africa.
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Thanks god i live in Turkey..
We dont see anyone as foreign because of their religion or race,
We only consider if they live Turkey.
+Adrian Piotr I'm sure Greeks and Armenians would beg to disagree.
rightwingreactionary Yes you are right if we talk about the Greeks and Armenians who live in Greece/Armenia..
But i mentioned Turkish citizens (includes Turks, Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Laz and many others)
Turkish is not equivalent to Turks.
Adrian Piotr Listen, mate. I don't hate the Turks. I have Turkish friends and neighbors. But your country is definitely not known as a haven of religious and racial tolerance. Check your track record so far.
rightwingreactionary Yes , not perfect at all.I mean just people.There is not much people here who generalize people by considering their religion, race or something..Here is multiculturel.We consider person individually.But europeans are not lıke that.I have been in many of EU Countries.There is prejudice.You know that.
Adrian Piotr Western Europeans are tolerant to the point of being annoying. No one is more tolerant than them.
And you should hear what some of my Turkish friends and acquaintances think about the Kurds. They consider them to be barely human.
So no. I can't agree with your analysis.
Live and let Live
Dolan is do beautiful
There is no such thing as Germany 😂
Trust me when you come here the only real language is english even in school, german doesn't really exist anymore
Not in Würzburg - as of 2013 or 2014!
And no, I am not German, but Roumanian - went there as tourist.
These Turkish girls are very pretty and I'm glad that they can live free in Germany, but they mustn't let their grandparents try to force the black dogma of Islam upon them!!
shut up, idiot
just keep ur mouth shut
Ali Rafiq What!?? Better than having polygamy!
Tochtochtoch i told u to shut up
so plz shut up
Waqas Hussain The Prophet Muhammad should have shut up, because it's his murderous policies that led to so much suffering in the world through his shit cult called Islam.
Now you fuck off!!
immigrants per se aren't the problem... WHERE they come from, is important! asians and people from other first world countries are totally ok but turks or muslims in general are the best example of negative immigrants in germany.
there are exceptions (as shown in the video), however the statistics speak a clear language.
what do you think about eastern european immigrants?
DaKka BaNderro
I am fine with immigrants of any place from earth, as long as they are willing to actually integrate into their host's society and respect the values and rules of the country. how things stand however, the trouble-makers in germany and whole europe are as good as allways turks or other muslims. that is because they come from the regeions in which the islam is the main religion, or they are born into families who live in their own world inside their host country. in germany we have no problem with russian or vietnamese ghettos, nor italian, french or english ones... it's allways turks and other muslims, who act as if they can do what ever they like, live by their own rules which they know from home and fully ignore the values and laws in some cases even of germany!
Non-ethnic Europeans encounter resistance from german people. They won't accept you into their culture. So rather than integrate into a culture that hated him, they searched for a bubble to live in.
Jomana maronite you’re beautiful 😍
That's right. Multiculturalism is not necessarily bad but it must be selective and accept only valuable cultures.
lol their last name is Erdogan
joker12346969 erDOGan??? 😂😂😂
5:10 but that's what she is. it's not a stereotype or racist if it's actually true.
swunt10 How is she an immigrant if she was born and raised in Germany and never immigrated?
I also have dark skin and hair and I don't believe the stuff that's written in the Quran.
eitkoml she said at one point "us muslims" and her family is an immigrant family and the official term for her is person with immigration background.
Regardless of her religion (a small proportion of ethnic Germans have converted to islam). Is she classified as an immigrant, citizen or something else?
eitkoml Person mit Migrationshintergrund is the german term the government uses in official statistics and the census.
+swunt10 WoW! T
Sorry, I meant " TO be uneducated".
There are so many turkic originated groups in europe but islam islam is not the main issue the front turks too had lived so many ten thousand years ago today in hungary fin bulgaria etc almost every part of the continent there are turks and turks dont destroy cultures !like some christians or jew-arabic saudia
+John Smith you really have a problem with people don't you Mohammed?
My friend, don't waste too much energy discusing with miserable people like him whose main goal in life is envying people he considers to be inferior. It must hurt so much to see minorities getting succesful while you are in your house jobless and lifeless. I'm moroccan living in Spain so I know what I'm talking about :)
criticizing people according to their ethnicity was never a good ideology we should leave these kind of thinking in the past
multiculturalism is the means of reaching a better human evolution in the future
(im turk if youre curious)
Germans are very generous and open minded
Turkish girls are pretty. Send them to America.
Why?
You can have all the illegal Strangers in Germany!!!No Problem!😒😏😂😂😡
@@emmapeel7283 illegal strangers? You mean gastarbeiter?
Point out where the Quran says this. Cite your sources
ive never said that
why would i say that
Immigrants are immigrants
islam will take over the german father land.. im worried about the piggery business.
they have germanic ''demeanors'' if not genes...genetics and genetic karma is difficult for any race of man, or nation to deal with, or get over...but we all moved out of africa and then to what was once china and are now where we are.
Intergenerational problems because their granddaughters are perfectly comfy with being german ?
And problems with fitting into this culture themself ?
Looks to me the muslim takeover completely backfired.
Paul hocadan gelen bahçeşehirliler +1 lesin
Those old fashioned traditions just have to be waekened out and also there has to be a western version of islam tollerating different religions to marry without converting.
it won't not unless quatar, UAE, and Bahrain opens it borders to their immigrants. The E.U cause all this mess. Its nice to live in nice countries but if your countries have opportunitys then your countries would attract immigrants. YOu can't stop Europe immigrant problem not unless Japan, Mexico, China, Brazil gets their act right and start attracting their own immigrants. Japan is already devoloped but this countries need immigrants.
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Kulwinder Singh kidda
..ice cream van ones for 50p with snakes n ladders on the back
FREE GERMANY!
don't make a fool of yourself
Nativism is part of the nation state anachronism. So don't think is only in Germany, only the destruction of the notion of the nation state and creation of free world with just world government will nativism become what really is not reflective of reality. We are all human born with the same biology with the same aspirations.
Nativism leads to fascism
@@normalhuman6581 nativism is necessary thats why we dont have more foreigners citizens in asia
You did that to yourself, write well next time
Loooooool
pfff...
bu 2 kız kardes cok guzel, . turkiyede bu kadar guzel kız cok nadiren cıkar, nasıl gocmende olur hayret
Hiç odandan dışarı çıktın m? Veya Kürt bölgelerinde mi yaşıyorsun?
This is exactly what happened with my family when the the they left Turkey and went to Saudi Arabia.
***** my grandfather spoke Turkish perfectly and my father too. but not as good as my grandfather. but the third generation barely can say one sentence in Turkish. and we are very familiar with Arabic traditions and costumes. I remember couple of years ago we went to turkey to meet our relatives but it was the most awkward situation that ever happened to me, I couldn't communicate with them which really was very sad, because we are relatives and we cant understand each other. I felt I didn't belong there anymore :(
+isolwi1 do you compare saudi arabia to germany ??LOL
Id never immigrate to germany if i was middle eastern.
Thank you!!!
We're would you go though? (Just asking)
@@comedylyfe2113 Afghanistan sharia yeah😂
pfff..funny boy
Germany is going to Turkmany
dark hair? isn't that common in germany?
NO!!!
wow yonca is hot!!
I can understand a bit german, und Ich will sagen dass die rassismus in Deutschland soll kaputt sein. Ich bin die mensch mit aserbaidschanisch blut in mir, and I like everything related to turkish and turkic cultures.
THE FUTURE IS TURKISH!!!
False!The Future in Germany is German!!!
This was time when I thought we will have caliphate, I was wrong we are going to pharma faschism.
Too many Syrians in Europe. Go home. What about the Germans jobs??
don't make a fool of yourself
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