Kyle, when I tried to accept your kind invite, I got this reply: ‘Safari cannot open the page because the address is invalid.’ Don’t really know why but I cannot accept. Tried many times, and even closed down my VPN but still did not work. If you figure it out I still would like to join. Richard
Kyle, I guess it just does not want me to enter-the address that is. Don’t know why! I believe there must be some kinda typo in the address link; however, if you have used this address before and it worked in the past, I am flummoxed.
Man... The video production is an upgrade compared to your older videos over the years. Hope that you could reach 100k soon. Number might not mean much but I want more and more coffee people see how valuable you and your channel create to this niche community. Thank you Kyle.
I just started getting into lighter coffees and my faves have been medium-light Ethiopians. Learning that lemony acidity is good, compared to the sour acidity of just poorly made coffee.
I thought I hated lighter roasts all my life even after I upgraded to more and more expensive grinders. I felt insane finally picking up the P100 with Brews without having ever tried one anywhere, but it worked out, it turned out that I just hated the uneven extraction combo of sourness/+astringency that I really pick up on from less uniform grinders, and I've been enjoying the most nuanced clean juicy fruity noted beans of my life now. Never have to worry about stalled and weird tasting pourovers anymore that I can't fix through recipe, water yeets right through at lightspeed and yet it always comes out so well extracted without going under/over by a wide safe margin.
In another note, thanks for inviting me to your Barista but was not allowed to. Said that it was the wrong address. Don’t know why but that was the error message.
13:37 I think on the new P64 design they actually implemented an adjustable dial so you can adjust your 0 mark to your actual burr touch point if you like, and it locks in position (seems like a bit more work to calibrate it that way, but it's not something you need to do often, just when changing burrs most likely).
I too was surprised by how freely the adjustment wheel moved. It’s great to be able to reset the zero, but I would be constantly paranoid that I accidentally turned the ring and was on the wrong setting. I’m sure Option-O could figure out a way to lock down the ring while still making it easy to adjust the zero point.
I'm also optimistic on this but also can't help but feel slightly disappointed that my model doesn't have this feature if it ever is changed. Even adding more tension to reduce how easy it is to spin would be appreciated. It's not unlike the Niche zero's lower adjustment ring that can easily be moved but I find this one too easy to slide around.
Been using my P100 for a bit over a year now. Spot on on the cons - I have little dents in my counter from where the cup has fallen, and the silver ring does occasionally rotate. I also have to use a mirror to see the back of the dial, since the grinder sits under a shelf. Those are minor though compared to the pros - beautiful shots and filter coffee, and the grinder is truly a pleasure to to clean.
This is a great video Kyle. Huge fan of the updated setup and how your studio has grown as well! It's been cool to see your journey over the years and I'm hype to see where it goes from here! Also, Kenya or Ethiopia are the best origins 🔥
I actually like the ketchup dosing cup! It is light, has no sharp corners, so a very low chance of damaging the anodized finish when throwing the beans in the grinder. I dosed with a more hefty aluminium machined cup for a while, and always found myself having to be very careful to not touch the grinder with that cup to prevent damage. With the light ketchup cup I don't have to be so paranoid. I assume option-o chose this cup for this reason.
You're right... I'm being a little harsh. I think the materials used are very intentional and I've never had scratches on the grinder because of metal on metal or even beans overly sticking to the dosing cup because of too much RDT. But.... I have a hard time believing this is the only aesthetic possible for such a thoughtful experience.
I'm glad you love the p100. I was on the fence between it and the Versalab M4. Ultimately, I went with the M4 and I feel like it offers great clarity and body.
Seen some of your vids before, some of your shorts too. @ 7.38 in this video is when i decided to subscribe. Your genuine astonishment on why aren’t these 2 magnetic made me loled. I currently drink Ethiopian natural really light out of my 64 ssp unimodal v1 and it just taste like blueberry coulis.
I've got an AA Kenyan and a Nicaraguan from local rosters in heavy rotation, both light-ish roasts. But I'm honestly just now really getting into training my palate and discovering what I enjoy most.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video! I was at the Cafec Brewers' Cup a few days ago. Arrived super early so I went around to have a look at some of the sponsored equipment and saw this. I hadn't seen it yet and thought what in the P64 was this. Instantly looked it up when I saw the rpm dial! It really is such a beast!
Thanks for the overview! It's certainly a fantastic grinder in the 98mm space and would be my first choice if I went up to the big burrs. My guess is that Option O doesn't put the RPMs on the dial because if they did, it would be only be nominal i.e. under no load. With different roast levels and at different grind sizes, actual RPM would vary wildly. RPM then speeds up as you grind through and there are less beans in the hopper. Just a thought
@@KyleRowsell The only grinder I know of that does this is the EG-1 which is almost $2000 more expensive. Are there others that have this feature for a lower price?
As excited as I am about this grinder, honestly the fact that it's perpetually sold out is probably for the best. At least as far as my wallet is concerned :)
The sound test of the machines should be when they are doing work. The motor sound is indeed more pleasent on the P64 compared to especially the P100, but the sound of the beans is dominating. P100 gets good marks due to finishing the grinding much faster (and better)
I have a P100 for 3 months now, and I have somewhat of a background in product design / engineering. This leads me to understand some of your nitpicks, while also disagreeing. I prefer the grind cup on the P100 over the Mini’s magnetic catch. I agree that the Forks for espresso portafilter are not ideal and the cup should have been designed to fit within the forks - yet my assumption is that they tested models and may have found the current implementation was safer in the long run by avoiding misalignment of the forks (educated guess on my part). I dislike the design of the ketchup cup, however I completely understand why they made this choice - the size is perfect for 25g or less dosing while using the spray bottle. The metal of the ketchup cup is not impacted by distilled water, where as water would stick to the metals used by the grind cup. Great video - about time the P100 earns this level of praise from the community, its the best performance to dollar ratio on the market for a multi-option burr grinder !
So glad to hear this resonated with you! And yeah I understand the benefits of the dosing cup too. From my understanding it’s also a softer metal that will not scratch or dent the aluminum of the lagom grinders. So that’s cool. But I’m sure that can create something more beautiful?
@@KyleRowsell Something. Ore beautiful using a different metal that is milled just for Option O will also mean more $$$$$. With every “gimme” there is a “gotcha”, in a perfect world I agree with you - but truth is in the multiple years I have been spraying distilled water prior to single dose grinding, this cheap ketchup cup has been the best tool so far to assure even distribution. I’m sure there is better out there that will someday arrive, yet I am presently surprised how effective this cheap cup is! PS: I own 10 condiment cups that are similar in size and material that I bought from a restaurant supply company,. I wish I thought of this sooner, its certainly not pretty - but it is pretty smart!
Also, Kyle, I was weeks away from getting a check to get this grinder! A week before I got it, they sold out XD Decided to buy a used Ditting KR1203 and put 120mm SSPs in. Still not aligned, but I'm looking forward to what that can produce, too! Less than $1,500 to do it.
lagom p100 is my favorite grinder right now. 98mm flat mill is the end game. The taste is very clean I like it. Its workflow is wonderful. Relax and enjoy.
I enjoy Costa Rica Tarrazu. As a student that is limited in terms of Budget, I use a manual Hario MSS-1 and a Bialleti Moka Pot to brew my daily coffee.
Im all about the Ethiopian and Colombian coffees. A funky natural Ethiopian? Yes please! An experimental process Columbian? Yum! Great video as always, looking forward to P100 updates.
No idea about a favorite origin yet. I'm just starting my great coffee journey. Right now, if it has fruity notes, I want it in my cup. I'm over the standard chocolate notes that are everywhere.
Been loving Guatemalan coffees lately💜 I've been waiting for someone to release a review on this grinder, so I was excited to see this in my feed. What a beast.
Received my one about 2 months ago, absolutely amazing! Super low retention! The only thing I found is not so good is when I grind at higher RPM, the automatic stop function doesn’t work well, I have wait very very long time for it to stop. Sometimes I just manually stop it :(
Ketchup cup reasoning: they wanted a metal that had really low friction with the beans, even when wet, and which was soft enough not to scratch or dent the dosing area on the grinder.
@@KyleRowsell pretty sure Hayden said it on EAF some time ago. Just pulled up the comment: We sometimes get ‘complaints’ (cough cough James… cough) about that cup…There are many reasons why we provided that instead of something fancier, which we could’ve easily done! It’s most definitely not a cost-cutting measure. The shape of the cup is conducive to RDT without beans sticking too much on the wall (something some of you may have experienced), it’s got a bigger surface area at the top so beans could get wetted more evenly, and it’s light enough and not going to ding your grinder (sometimes you need to tap it), and the cup opening & size are perfect for single dosing espresso. Well, we could do worse with a plastic ketchup cup :ehhhh:
damn, you made my day with this! i am in love with the p100 and signed up for preorder, i'm tired of my niche and its taste profile and looks. going to get a rocket r nine one and the p100 will look totaly awesome side to side with the r9!
Kyle my bro. I haven't seen your videos for a while so when I saw this one I had a wow moment for the production quality upgrade. It really looks amazing and professional!! GOOD JOB. I have a question about when you reference "traditional espresso" and "modern style espresso" what is the difference and can milk drinks have modern style espresso made from P100 or P64? Also what do you think of P100 vs EG-1 if you have tried both I would love to hear about your experience. That would be an amazing video. Anyway you are doing good work and good luck with your business endeavors.
well i'm officially hooked to your channel buddy. You're doing an incredible job. I'm just starting taking coffee as a hobby thing... and what a universe. An incredibly expensive one too lol. cheers from Swizzy!
I mean Kenya has to be my fav coffee origin. The range from stewed rhubarb and blackberry to beetroot juice and cold borscht soup is just stunning. I can drink it all year round, the issue is that it's hard to find really stellar ones.
Nice. I thought those burrs would be even less forgiving than the 64mm MP burrs a bit surprised about them being more forgiving. I love the P64s quiet motor and looks the best but the added features on the P100 would be very nice (they could add those to p64 too if they wanted). If someone wanted a more traditional coffee I thought the SSP cast burrs in DF64 and P64 is very traditional and conical like. Lots of body. But for the price of either of those combos you might just be better off getting the Lagom Mini or something similar.
Getting my P100 with HU burrs delivered in a few hours. I drink both espresso and milk-based everyday. I’ll see whether I’m a fan of milk-based drinks with this grinder (else I have a Niche Zero) and so glad I will really enjoy espresso with it
I tend towards Ethiopians because they’re pretty common with the roasters around me, but if I see a naturally processed Costa Rican I jump at it immediately. My favorite coffees have been naturally processed Costa Ricans and Ethiopians
Amazing amazing video Kyle. Would love to see you try different 98mm burrs (so we don't 😂) and share your thoughts on those. One more question, do you think p100 can be used in café setup also?
There is no way I could say what my favorite coffee origin is!!! There are so many great coffees produced from various origins that all have their place. That being said its a toss up for me between Colombia and Ethiopia, however I have had some delicious Rwanda's lately and I encourage more people to give Rwandan coffees a chance! I think for me it's more of a question of what's your favorite processing method? I've really been digging the newer experimental processes like Carbonic Maceration ☕🤘
Thanks for validating my p100 purchase lol. I pull traditional espresso shots on the p100 and drink both espresso and milk based drinks. The espresso is still well textured / thick / syrupy. After speaking with Option O, it appears the HU burrs are still the best burr set for achieving those goals. I just want to live in a world where I have high clarity and great gooey mouth feel. Thanks for the video.
Haven't gotten it yet? I found even with the 64mm MP burrs in a Europoccola lever machine at least with a long pre infusion and more of a ristretto shot you CAN get really good clarity and texture. I do like 16g in about 28g out 20 or 30 second pre infusion!
I'm on the fence between a P64 and P100. I really enjoy milk drinks, but also love fruity and sweet flavors in my coffee. Would the P100 be worse than the P64 with HU burrs for those needs?
@@CafecitoToday get the p64 with ssp MP burrs (or p100) and another grinder like a Df83 or Niche zero which is great for more chocolatey profile and milk drinks.
@@CafecitoToday I dont think this is a question about burrs, but rather a question about coffee. You should be purchasing light to medium roasts from Ethiopia or Kenya. Some Colombian coffees have great fruit notes too. The P100 and P64 are both great at extracting those flavors! If you like milk drinks, the HU might be the set for you.
The redesigned P64 had a really neat way of changing the zero point. I think the lack of specific rpm on the dial is just part of their K.I.S.S. design aesthetic. Heck, they don’t even have the company name anywhere on the grinder!
Any plans to play around with different 98mm burrs? Brian Quan seems to really love the SSP 98mm ultra low fines curious what other people think, there just arent enough 98mm videos out there right now. Hoping to see more p100 content from you and others, I absolutely love my p64 and I'm def eyeing the p100 one day.
Cheers mate, great content again! Would've loved to see a blind taste test between the p64 and p100 to remove any bias that exists of wanting to like the more expensive one ;) My p64 is due to arrive any day now, so maybe that's just me wanting validation for choosing it over the p100 haha
@@KyleRowsell Yeah i getcha, that's fair. Oh in answer to your Q about origins, I'll try be succinct haha... In the past 12-ish months in Australia, for me, we're getting lots of great coffees from Columbia - namely a producer called Jairo Arcila - everything I've had from this producer across a couple different local roasters have been great. On the other end of the scale, Ethiopians have generally been underwhelming in the last year or so for me - I can only really recall one that was interesting, others have been boring or ordinary.
you asked about which coffee we like brewing I brew a lot of Philippine coffee from BACOFA, Mt. Apo (coz I live in philippines) I have very little experience with coffee from outside Philippines, only got to try filter and not espresso but I would like to hear your thoughts on the specialty coffee grown in my locality and also, Philippines is going to have a Coffee Expo on september 14 wherein many specialty coffee shops and roasters from the whole nation, as well as guests from outside will gather together to experience Philippine coffee
hey kyle, long time subscriber here. i like your content in general but idk if anyone has told you anything similar but the audio of the video is a bit muffled(?) idk how to describe it. it's like the microphone is way too close something like that.
Hello and thank you for the review. Curios what roast level you prefer- just confused why you say the P100 is sweet and balanced and forgiving yet Brian Quan claims “battery acid” clear, and unforgiving. Perhaps you prefer dark roast?
I'm not sure where the battery acid comment comes from. I've had great extractions form the 98mm SSP's. They are after all burrs that have been used for a long time in the EK43.
IMHO, I consider the P-64 by far the most esthetically pleasing BUT I WOULD LOVE IT if the P-100 was of the same design as the P-64 and I would pay the price of admission if they did.
What's the use of holding 100g in the funnel if there's no way to set a grind time? Should they have bothered with this? Is it practical as an on-demand grinder? (I would have to fill the funnel ever 2 days or so)
It was between these two for me. I thought the P100 provided the more unique experience and knowing and loving option O made it an easy choice. But the EG-1 is also a masterpiece
can you share your process for filter coffee with P100? I don’t brew a lot of filter, so have dialed in my espresso, but still can’t seem to find an optimal recipe for filter?? Thanks for the vid. Cheers
Ps. Come join the Home Barista Discord. It’s free. And I’d love to chat with you there! discord.gg/UFm5xDBj8J
Kyle, when I tried to accept your kind invite, I got this reply: ‘Safari cannot open the page because the address is invalid.’ Don’t really know why but I cannot accept. Tried many times, and even closed down my VPN but still did not work. If you figure it out I still would like to join.
Richard
@@richardbutler9466 try it now?
Same error still, Kyle. I am still trying to accept then invite on the original link. Same error-address is invalid.
Kyle, I guess it just does not want me to enter-the address that is. Don’t know why! I believe there must be some kinda typo in the address link; however, if you have used this address before and it worked in the past, I am flummoxed.
Hey Kyle, could you take a look on the AnZa Espresso Machine, because I can't find a review on the whole internet :(
Should have gotten it in silver and put some googly eyes on it and just referred to it as Bender the entire video
Lol This made me laugh
Second this
You are just like me in terms of humour! Lol.
Man... The video production is an upgrade compared to your older videos over the years. Hope that you could reach 100k soon.
Number might not mean much but I want more and more coffee people see how valuable you and your channel create to this niche community. Thank you Kyle.
Mike thank you.
Hit 100k!🎉
I just started getting into lighter coffees and my faves have been medium-light Ethiopians. Learning that lemony acidity is good, compared to the sour acidity of just poorly made coffee.
Welcome to the light side!!! 😄
I thought I hated lighter roasts all my life even after I upgraded to more and more expensive grinders. I felt insane finally picking up the P100 with Brews without having ever tried one anywhere, but it worked out, it turned out that I just hated the uneven extraction combo of sourness/+astringency that I really pick up on from less uniform grinders, and I've been enjoying the most nuanced clean juicy fruity noted beans of my life now. Never have to worry about stalled and weird tasting pourovers anymore that I can't fix through recipe, water yeets right through at lightspeed and yet it always comes out so well extracted without going under/over by a wide safe margin.
In another note, thanks for inviting me to your Barista but was not allowed to. Said that it was the wrong address. Don’t know why but that was the error message.
13:37 I think on the new P64 design they actually implemented an adjustable dial so you can adjust your 0 mark to your actual burr touch point if you like, and it locks in position (seems like a bit more work to calibrate it that way, but it's not something you need to do often, just when changing burrs most likely).
Oh they have a new dosing cup with a built in Weber like tumbler now too!
I too was surprised by how freely the adjustment wheel moved. It’s great to be able to reset the zero, but I would be constantly paranoid that I accidentally turned the ring and was on the wrong setting. I’m sure Option-O could figure out a way to lock down the ring while still making it easy to adjust the zero point.
I'm also optimistic on this but also can't help but feel slightly disappointed that my model doesn't have this feature if it ever is changed. Even adding more tension to reduce how easy it is to spin would be appreciated. It's not unlike the Niche zero's lower adjustment ring that can easily be moved but I find this one too easy to slide around.
Been using my P100 for a bit over a year now. Spot on on the cons - I have little dents in my counter from where the cup has fallen, and the silver ring does occasionally rotate. I also have to use a mirror to see the back of the dial, since the grinder sits under a shelf. Those are minor though compared to the pros - beautiful shots and filter coffee, and the grinder is truly a pleasure to to clean.
Road to 100k! Lets go!!! Also great video! Nice hoodie!
We’re so close I can smell it 🥲
This is a great video Kyle. Huge fan of the updated setup and how your studio has grown as well! It's been cool to see your journey over the years and I'm hype to see where it goes from here! Also, Kenya or Ethiopia are the best origins 🔥
So appreciate that Brandon!
I actually like the ketchup dosing cup! It is light, has no sharp corners, so a very low chance of damaging the anodized finish when throwing the beans in the grinder. I dosed with a more hefty aluminium machined cup for a while, and always found myself having to be very careful to not touch the grinder with that cup to prevent damage. With the light ketchup cup I don't have to be so paranoid. I assume option-o chose this cup for this reason.
You're right... I'm being a little harsh. I think the materials used are very intentional and I've never had scratches on the grinder because of metal on metal or even beans overly sticking to the dosing cup because of too much RDT. But.... I have a hard time believing this is the only aesthetic possible for such a thoughtful experience.
I'm glad you love the p100. I was on the fence between it and the Versalab M4. Ultimately, I went with the M4 and I feel like it offers great clarity and body.
Good choice! enjoy Alex!
Seen some of your vids before, some of your shorts too. @ 7.38 in this video is when i decided to subscribe. Your genuine astonishment on why aren’t these 2 magnetic made me loled. I currently drink Ethiopian natural really light out of my 64 ssp unimodal v1 and it just taste like blueberry coulis.
Haha it took that to subscribe? Good to know. I’ll rant about dosing cups more often 😅
For now i'd say my favorite origin is Ethiopia, but I still have a lot to discover!
I've got an AA Kenyan and a Nicaraguan from local rosters in heavy rotation, both light-ish roasts. But I'm honestly just now really getting into training my palate and discovering what I enjoy most.
Great choice Kenyan coffee is the best. 😜
Espresso is in deed an expensive hobby to keep up, yet I love it!
Doesn’t have to be. But the rabbit hole is a dark place
Thoroughly enjoyed this video! I was at the Cafec Brewers' Cup a few days ago. Arrived super early so I went around to have a look at some of the sponsored equipment and saw this. I hadn't seen it yet and thought what in the P64 was this. Instantly looked it up when I saw the rpm dial! It really is such a beast!
Thanks for the overview! It's certainly a fantastic grinder in the 98mm space and would be my first choice if I went up to the big burrs. My guess is that Option O doesn't put the RPMs on the dial because if they did, it would be only be nominal i.e. under no load. With different roast levels and at different grind sizes, actual RPM would vary wildly. RPM then speeds up as you grind through and there are less beans in the hopper. Just a thought
Likely the case. Regardless it would be helpful to know a rough estimate of where it may be.
The only good way to do it, that I can see, would be to have a built in tach and a display and/or Bluetooth to your phone/tablet.
@@KyleRowsell The only grinder I know of that does this is the EG-1 which is almost $2000 more expensive. Are there others that have this feature for a lower price?
@@Ywaarde The Kopi Deva have but still only delievered for kickstarter.
@@scider2 Looks like that has variable grindspeed but nothing that indicates the actual rpm under load.
As excited as I am about this grinder, honestly the fact that it's perpetually sold out is probably for the best. At least as far as my wallet is concerned :)
Great upload. Thank you for sharing your knowledge to the coffee community. I'm currently roasting single origin green beans from Brazil!
Right on! Enjoy those!
The sound test of the machines should be when they are doing work. The motor sound is indeed more pleasent on the P64 compared to especially the P100, but the sound of the beans is dominating. P100 gets good marks due to finishing the grinding much faster (and better)
Thank you for your reviews. Very easy to listen to and informative. I have a mini, P64 and P100 is next. 😊
I have a P100 for 3 months now, and I have somewhat of a background in product design / engineering. This leads me to understand some of your nitpicks, while also disagreeing. I prefer the grind cup on the P100 over the Mini’s magnetic catch. I agree that the Forks for espresso portafilter are not ideal and the cup should have been designed to fit within the forks - yet my assumption is that they tested models and may have found the current implementation was safer in the long run by avoiding misalignment of the forks (educated guess on my part). I dislike the design of the ketchup cup, however I completely understand why they made this choice - the size is perfect for 25g or less dosing while using the spray bottle. The metal of the ketchup cup is not impacted by distilled water, where as water would stick to the metals used by the grind cup. Great video - about time the P100 earns this level of praise from the community, its the best performance to dollar ratio on the market for a multi-option burr grinder
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So glad to hear this resonated with you! And yeah I understand the benefits of the dosing cup too. From my understanding it’s also a softer metal that will not scratch or dent the aluminum of the lagom grinders. So that’s cool. But I’m sure that can create something more beautiful?
@@KyleRowsell Something. Ore beautiful using a different metal that is milled just for Option O will also mean more $$$$$. With every “gimme” there is a “gotcha”, in a perfect world I agree with you - but truth is in the multiple years I have been spraying distilled water prior to single dose grinding, this cheap ketchup cup has been the best tool so far to assure even distribution. I’m sure there is better out there that will someday arrive, yet I am presently surprised how effective this cheap cup is!
PS: I own 10 condiment cups that are similar in size and material that I bought from a restaurant supply company,. I wish I thought of this sooner, its certainly not pretty - but it is pretty smart!
Also, Kyle, I was weeks away from getting a check to get this grinder! A week before I got it, they sold out XD Decided to buy a used Ditting KR1203 and put 120mm SSPs in. Still not aligned, but I'm looking forward to what that can produce, too! Less than $1,500 to do it.
That's so unfortunate! But also congrats! enjoy my friend
the stock KR1203 burrs are also pretty legendary
lagom p100 is my favorite grinder right now. 98mm flat mill is the end game. The taste is very clean I like it. Its workflow is wonderful. Relax and enjoy.
Well said. We’re in the endgame now Kevin.
I enjoy Costa Rica Tarrazu. As a student that is limited in terms of Budget, I use a manual Hario MSS-1 and a Bialleti Moka Pot to brew my daily coffee.
Im all about the Ethiopian and Colombian coffees. A funky natural Ethiopian? Yes please! An experimental process Columbian? Yum! Great video as always, looking forward to P100 updates.
Rwanda. Those funky strawberry laces are amazing
No idea about a favorite origin yet. I'm just starting my great coffee journey. Right now, if it has fruity notes, I want it in my cup. I'm over the standard chocolate notes that are everywhere.
That dosing cup *ping* sound on the Lagom Mini is pure bliss
That sound is the definition of satisfaction 💥
Been loving Guatemalan coffees lately💜 I've been waiting for someone to release a review on this grinder, so I was excited to see this in my feed. What a beast.
Sure is 💥
Received my one about 2 months ago, absolutely amazing! Super low retention! The only thing I found is not so good is when I grind at higher RPM, the automatic stop function doesn’t work well, I have wait very very long time for it to stop. Sometimes I just manually stop it :(
Ketchup cup reasoning: they wanted a metal that had really low friction with the beans, even when wet, and which was soft enough not to scratch or dent the dosing area on the grinder.
Hm. Good to know. Source?
@@KyleRowsell pretty sure Hayden said it on EAF some time ago. Just pulled up the comment:
We sometimes get ‘complaints’ (cough cough James… cough) about that cup…There are many reasons why we provided that instead of something fancier, which we could’ve easily done! It’s most definitely not a cost-cutting measure. The shape of the cup is conducive to RDT without beans sticking too much on the wall (something some of you may have experienced), it’s got a bigger surface area at the top so beans could get wetted more evenly, and it’s light enough and not going to ding your grinder (sometimes you need to tap it), and the cup opening & size are perfect for single dosing espresso.
Well, we could do worse with a plastic ketchup cup :ehhhh:
damn, you made my day with this! i am in love with the p100 and signed up for preorder, i'm tired of my niche and its taste profile and looks. going to get a rocket r nine one and the p100 will look totaly awesome side to side with the r9!
You're very welcome. And that will be a great combination!
I'm from Mexico and I just love your videos.
Kyle my bro. I haven't seen your videos for a while so when I saw this one I had a wow moment for the production quality upgrade. It really looks amazing and professional!! GOOD JOB. I have a question about when you reference "traditional espresso" and "modern style espresso" what is the difference and can milk drinks have modern style espresso made from P100 or P64? Also what do you think of P100 vs EG-1 if you have tried both I would love to hear about your experience. That would be an amazing video. Anyway you are doing good work and good luck with your business endeavors.
well i'm officially hooked to your channel buddy. You're doing an incredible job.
I'm just starting taking coffee as a hobby thing... and what a universe. An incredibly expensive one too lol.
cheers from Swizzy!
New company 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 love all black color grinders 🥰
Matte black is bae
That’s actually huge 😲 great review as always!
Ethipoian coffee is my personnal favourite!
Thanks friend. Much appreciated
I mean Kenya has to be my fav coffee origin. The range from stewed rhubarb and blackberry to beetroot juice and cold borscht soup is just stunning. I can drink it all year round, the issue is that it's hard to find really stellar ones.
Agreed
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Nice. I thought those burrs would be even less forgiving than the 64mm MP burrs a bit surprised about them being more forgiving.
I love the P64s quiet motor and looks the best but the added features on the P100 would be very nice (they could add those to p64 too if they wanted).
If someone wanted a more traditional coffee I thought the SSP cast burrs in DF64 and P64 is very traditional and conical like. Lots of body. But for the price of either of those combos you might just be better off getting the Lagom Mini or something similar.
The cast has been heavily praised. I need to get a set. And yes I’ve personally found it more forgiving. That my experience over the past 6 weeks
Getting my P100 with HU burrs delivered in a few hours. I drink both espresso and milk-based everyday. I’ll see whether I’m a fan of milk-based drinks with this grinder (else I have a Niche Zero) and so glad I will really enjoy espresso with it
Thanks for the review! how would the P100 compare to the MAX/MAX2,did you do any comparisons?
Me with a tiny hand grinder: oh shit.
Gotta say I've been loving Rwandan coffees as of late, acidic fruity juicy goodness with some african florality is an awesome combo
Couldn't agree more!
Bourbon Arabica from Lake Itasy in Madagascar. Of course being in Madagascar makes access to it easy. But we need to get this out to the world.
Guatemala gotta be overall fav. Loving the hoodie kyle!
Thanks! They’ll be for sale soon 🤭
I tend towards Ethiopians because they’re pretty common with the roasters around me, but if I see a naturally processed Costa Rican I jump at it immediately. My favorite coffees have been naturally processed Costa Ricans and Ethiopians
Kyle: “It’s almost the same height but twice as thick”.
Me: “I’m gonna need an extra 1k for my grinder bugdet”.
thic boi
Amazing amazing video Kyle. Would love to see you try different 98mm burrs (so we don't 😂) and share your thoughts on those.
One more question, do you think p100 can be used in café setup also?
Ha... another rabbit hole to dive into. And yes I do. 100%. With a single dose setup it would be perfect. For batch brews it would also be great.
Have a special place in my heart for good Mexican coffee
Enjoy coffee from Kenya the most! 😋
But Im born in Ecuador and would love to see more coffes from there, so Im happy you mentioned it in the video 🙌
Thanks for watching Jacob! I appreciate your input here!
@@KyleRowsell Btw, have you had an opportunity to test out the new Moonshine burrs for the Lagom Mini?
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@@KyleRowsell Haha! Yeah, I saw it right after asking the question 😆 Thanks!
Is this a video or a short film? Quality is 💯
Thank you :) Hope the UA-cam algorithm sees it the same way! Lately some of our channels have been compressed from viewership by the algorithm
Kenya! It was the first coffee that blew my mind! And i love tomatos :))
There is no way I could say what my favorite coffee origin is!!! There are so many great coffees produced from various origins that all have their place. That being said its a toss up for me between Colombia and Ethiopia, however I have had some delicious Rwanda's lately and I encourage more people to give Rwandan coffees a chance! I think for me it's more of a question of what's your favorite processing method? I've really been digging the newer experimental processes like Carbonic Maceration ☕🤘
Nice thanks for sharing! I love a good washed coffee. But that's me. :)
Awesome review as always.
Favorite coffee : Ethiopian Natural
Thank you friend!
been on their waitlist forever ... would love to see it with a magnetic burr set similar to the EG-1 and yes magnetic catch cup and walnut lid
It would be nice but then no 98mm alternatives would work
The the whispered "you can do better" at the ketchup cup was devastating.
It’s tough love.
If I find a Guatemalan Huehuetenango at any roaster, I’ll almost always try it. Although Ethiopians have been my favorite lately.
Nice work! 👍
The P-100 is my current dream grinder.
Thanks for watching!
Hi Kyle. What espresso glass are you using? It's gorgeous!
Its 1150pm and I'm trying to wind down and fall asleep, so I'm watching youtube vids. After watching this vid, now I want a damn coffee......lol
Sorry bout that 😅
Thanks for validating my p100 purchase lol. I pull traditional espresso shots on the p100 and drink both espresso and milk based drinks. The espresso is still well textured / thick / syrupy. After speaking with Option O, it appears the HU burrs are still the best burr set for achieving those goals. I just want to live in a world where I have high clarity and great gooey mouth feel. Thanks for the video.
Honesty the 98mm hu does this better than any other burr. Enjoy
Haven't gotten it yet? I found even with the 64mm MP burrs in a Europoccola lever machine at least with a long pre infusion and more of a ristretto shot you CAN get really good clarity and texture. I do like 16g in about 28g out 20 or 30 second pre infusion!
I'm on the fence between a P64 and P100. I really enjoy milk drinks, but also love fruity and sweet flavors in my coffee. Would the P100 be worse than the P64 with HU burrs for those needs?
@@CafecitoToday get the p64 with ssp MP burrs (or p100) and another grinder like a Df83 or Niche zero which is great for more chocolatey profile and milk drinks.
@@CafecitoToday I dont think this is a question about burrs, but rather a question about coffee. You should be purchasing light to medium roasts from Ethiopia or Kenya. Some Colombian coffees have great fruit notes too. The P100 and P64 are both great at extracting those flavors! If you like milk drinks, the HU might be the set for you.
The redesigned P64 had a really neat way of changing the zero point.
I think the lack of specific rpm on the dial is just part of their K.I.S.S. design aesthetic. Heck, they don’t even have the company name anywhere on the grinder!
I get it but... cmon. :)
Nice video. Studio upgrades look great!
Thanks! So glad you like it
Favorite origin at the moment is Costa Rican honeys especially a red honey. Super balanced best of both worlds coffee
Guatemala Huehuetenango is my favorite origin. I’m really just commenting to say I see that dope GA-2100 on your wrist. :)
Ugandan coffee is my favourite! Looooooove it! Sipi falls specifically. Love your work Kyle
Thanks Liam!
Hey Kyle, great video.
I’m really interested in the Odyssey Argos. I’d love it if you could somehow get your hands on one for a review.
Yeah would love to
Any plans to play around with different 98mm burrs? Brian Quan seems to really love the SSP 98mm ultra low fines curious what other people think, there just arent enough 98mm videos out there right now. Hoping to see more p100 content from you and others, I absolutely love my p64 and I'm def eyeing the p100 one day.
Not currently. The HU are insane. I'll likely try the cast EK43 burrs at some point.
Awesome video Kyle! and I know it's about the P100...but damn, everytime I look at that Mini I just want to get one hahaha
It’s so great 😅
Cheers mate, great content again! Would've loved to see a blind taste test between the p64 and p100 to remove any bias that exists of wanting to like the more expensive one ;) My p64 is due to arrive any day now, so maybe that's just me wanting validation for choosing it over the p100 haha
I did blind test! Dozens of times. But Blind tests on videos can be silly, it’s one test rather than hundreds of tastings.
@@KyleRowsell Yeah i getcha, that's fair. Oh in answer to your Q about origins, I'll try be succinct haha... In the past 12-ish months in Australia, for me, we're getting lots of great coffees from Columbia - namely a producer called Jairo Arcila - everything I've had from this producer across a couple different local roasters have been great. On the other end of the scale, Ethiopians have generally been underwhelming in the last year or so for me - I can only really recall one that was interesting, others have been boring or ordinary.
My current end game dream grinder.
Yours and mine both
The best coffee I ever had was from Colombia (Wilton Benitez anaerobic pink bourbon) I saved the bag so I can always remember.
you asked about which coffee we like brewing
I brew a lot of Philippine coffee from BACOFA, Mt. Apo (coz I live in philippines)
I have very little experience with coffee from outside Philippines, only got to try filter and not espresso
but I would like to hear your thoughts on the specialty coffee grown in my locality
and also, Philippines is going to have a Coffee Expo on september 14 wherein many specialty coffee shops and roasters from the whole nation, as well as guests from outside will gather together to experience Philippine coffee
Kenya all day! - great video as always. That is a beast of a grinder.
Thanks Shayne!
Favorite coffee origin: If money isn’t a concern, Hawaii. If we are looking for something affordable, it’s got to be Ethiopia.
East African coffees are preferred. Hard to really pin that down but probably Ethiopia.
Any rumor of upgrades the next Gen, including blind burrs?
What's the large grey machine in the back corner of the room? Just curious...
M10 Roaster
My current favourite coffee is a light roast Ethiopian with notes of stone fruit and cumin.
hey kyle, long time subscriber here. i like your content in general but idk if anyone has told you anything similar but the audio of the video is a bit muffled(?) idk how to describe it. it's like the microphone is way too close something like that.
Hello and thank you for the review. Curios what roast level you prefer- just confused why you say the P100 is sweet and balanced and forgiving yet Brian Quan claims “battery acid” clear, and unforgiving. Perhaps you prefer dark roast?
I'm not sure where the battery acid comment comes from. I've had great extractions form the 98mm SSP's. They are after all burrs that have been used for a long time in the EK43.
@@KyleRowsell and what roast level coffee were you using when you did your test?
Missed the Washington vs. Obama Monument joke when comparing the Mini with P100
IMHO, I consider the P-64 by far the most esthetically pleasing BUT I WOULD LOVE IT if the P-100 was of the same design as the P-64 and I would pay the price of admission if they did.
Fair enough. P64 is bae!
Favorite origin…Ethiopia. More often than not, Ethiopians hit my preferred flavor profile and mouthfeel.
Ethipopia Naturals. Interested in these new processing methods though. Anerobic and what not. .
They’re fascinating for sure
I would love to see a blind tasting competition with you, lance and james! Guessing grinders from a cup!
That would be a blast. I'm sure we will Collab on something someday. At least I hope! :)
Why not add Hames Joffman too? 🤔
😂
3 Guys, One Cup!
Did you have to change your Slayer brew times with the high uniformity burrs?
Do you think the p100 cN produce good shots for milk drinks of you grind at lower RPM?
Is this a grinder that can be used single dose in a cafe or is it not buiot for that ?
What's the use of holding 100g in the funnel if there's no way to set a grind time? Should they have bothered with this? Is it practical as an on-demand grinder? (I would have to fill the funnel ever 2 days or so)
I love my P100 and EG1, time to get and review the WW EG1..
It was between these two for me. I thought the P100 provided the more unique experience and knowing and loving option O made it an easy choice. But the EG-1 is also a masterpiece
Would you be able to review Weber EG1 and compare with this P100 someday?
Those fruity, natural processed Ethiopian beans always win hands down for me.
I love all African coffees, but my favorite nowadays is Columbia
Is the P100 only intended for light roasts? Is there a burr set for it that can work with medium to dark roasts and give a more traditional shot?
The cast burrs are a bit better for this
Thanks
You’re welcome
What, pray tell is that transformer chilling on the bench in the back of your studio? :P
more on that soon :)
Colombian and Costa Rican for sure
can you share your process for filter coffee with P100? I don’t brew a lot of filter, so have dialed in my espresso, but still can’t seem to find an optimal recipe for filter?? Thanks for the vid. Cheers