I'm not Asian (I'm black) but I'll say this...if you find yourself in an Non-Asian Enclave, you can still hold on to your roots at home with your families. *Don't be ashamed of your looks and culture. Be proud of it. Hold your heads up high* 👍🏿🙏🏿✌🏿
@@ohdaUtube There are role models. You just don't know. Because you grew up in a country where they don't teach your people's history and awesome people in the past. I'm sorry for you.
@@ohdaUtube As for your culture being made fun of. People still to this day make fun of black culture, even going as far as hating it. People make fun of the way we talk, walk, dress, our lips, noses, hair, ass etc but we DON'T CARE. We keep it pushing and do what we have to do. And those same groups of people try to get what we have (lip injections and BBLs etc). As for the Asian community...do what we did and not give a F*#+ and do you. With representation, you got to find who you can. Create as many in the media as you can. It is getting better for the Asian community but realize this....y'all are cooler than y'all give yourself credit for.
I’m mostly European but I’m a mix of different European nationalities but I feel closest to Spanish and Portuguese culture. I grew up in a neighborhood that was mostly German, Irish and English although there was some Spanish people . Being a mix of European nationalities I was both an insider via my English, Irish, German and Dutch ancestry but I was an outsider via my Spanish, Portuguese, Slovakian, Croatian and Italian ancestry.
@ohdaUtube It all depends though because I went to school with a lot of diversity and for the most part the Asians over there were Americanized so a lot of them didn't really care too much only the ones that barely spoke English we're kind of ashamed but that wasn't really a problem in my area for instance my fiancee she's from the Philippines and her Accent is very strong along with her cousins that are over here so I mean I noticed that when I'm around the ones that don't speak English properly and that are proud of their culture they tend to be more a little bit nicer versus the American iced ones
There’s a large SEA community where I’m from, but went to schools where the student population was pretty diverse. I think it’s benefit me & helped me to become a more well-rounded individual.
It doesn't have to be a binary concept: have cultural enrichment at home, but make sure your child interacts with other kids from other cultures at school and some after-school activities. That way they can better assert themselves and know those organizational-interactive nuances.
The problem is also getting ingredients for your food, restaurants, and other important parts of the culture that being outside and not close to an enclave can happen.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 For me, it's kinda akin to an Italian American kid being aware of his grandma's cuisine, his family's catholic church, or the occasional trip to Sicily to meet his extended family. At the same time, he's on his school's football team, debate club, and he occasionally hangs out with his school friends outside of class. There are still stores, within the enclave, that sells the ingredients that his grandma's cooking requires. I see your point of view: it's a challenge, but not impossible.
@cqtaylor The vast majority of Italians in The U.S live in The Northeast which has a huge Italian population. Italians are nowhere near as evenly distributed throughout the rest of the country as the Irish, the English, the Scottish, and the Germans are. There are not a lot of Italians in Minnesota and Montana for example. The vast majority of Italian immigrants who landed on Ellis Island did not want to start a new life too far away from Ellis Island!
@cqtaylor no it is impossible. Imagine being the only asian not even the only specific asian within an hour and 30 drive. Then imagine being hours plane ride from family. So the availability of your own culture's food is impossible as ingredients are not available as most of our food requires freshness (to a certain extent). Italian food ingredients are easily available everywhere in the USA. It's basically just bread ingredients and then ingredients taken from the America's.
@@josephimperatrice5552 So you're saying that individual families lack the free agency to maintain their traditions within their households? Who's responsible for passing down recipes? Who's responsible for corresponding with relatives in "The Old Country?" Who's responsible for sustaining traditions and maintaining contact with cousins? Meanwhile, that same family can ensure their kids have the social skills to live in a heterogeneous community. Is it a challenge? Yeah. Is it impossible? No.
I grew up in China, but live in Australia. I find it is definitely more beneficial to live in a multiracial community as you are going to deal with people from all different backgrounds in real life.
I grew up in the sixties and seventies in an all white area. It would have been nice to know some Asians growing up to see some respectable examples because all I ever saw was the sad, weak, hated Asians on TV. All the war movies showed the Asians to be evil and in need of being killed (even though there were Asian allies of the US in every war, you never saw that shown on TV) and as far as romantic movies, Asian males were always absent or denigrated. The racism I experienced, without any countervailing examples to see, was debilitating and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Your childhood is the formative period of your life and only seeing denigration is cruel.
I'm a white guy around your age and I have seen what you describe. I will also admit that I had a very "white" upbringing and throughout my childhood and teenage years I was completely ignorant about Asian culture. After becoming an adult and meeting people from other cultures, I can now say that on average I prefer the company of Asians and would prefer to live in an Asian neighborhood.
@@user5812 Thank you for your honesty, understanding and kindness. I should also add that I had many white friends to whom my race didn’t matter and I am thankful, for without their friendship and camaraderie I would have become entirely cynical. They were great and true friends.
Really. I experienced little had couple of fights in high school.. racism seems to me always coming from losers in their race.. maybe that's is why I don't care that much..
I grew up in a working class area (with pockets of wealthier subdivisions where the Asians live), and my elementary and middle schools were really mixed. I'm glad I had this type of upbringing because I was able to experience many different cultures, while also being in tune with my own. The best thing is that I also learned how to be streetsmart, which is something those from more white areas or Asian enclaves might not have as much of.
Where the Asian families decide to settle is going to have a large impact on that city/suburb. Like there are some decent sized suburbs of a major Midwest city that is currently 27% Asian however if you take a look at the school district demographics then you see that the school district is 40-50% Asian which means that the suburb is going to become even more Asian. Understandably families tend to settle in areas with good school districts but it would be nice to have more investment in inner city schools (for comparison the major city is only 2% Asian).
I grew up in an all white area Nor Cal sub and it was generally inclusive and embraced us with no hate or prejudice. Most of my closest friends however, still ended up not being white. Somehow we just clicked better because we were minorities and shared an immigrant experience that whites would never understand.
Whites are not tight like us, I’m Arab and I’m in the same boat. That’s why you associate with whites and hang with the people with spirit. Now when it comes to girls, nothing like an American White girl.
I would think the ideal scenario would be to have your kids grow up in an area where they're able to befriend people across a wide variety of cultural backgrounds (ethnic heritages, religions, income levels, politics, careers, hobbies, etc.) as it provides added empathy / wisdom you may not get access to living in a bubble. You also have to make sure that you actively encourage your kids to befriend people different than they are (not talking about just ethnicity here, I mean in ALL categories). Being able to grow up in a diverse area is a privilege some of the kids I grew up with squandered it only hanging out with people like them and I always felt bad for those kids.
@@Kyotosomo i dont know much about black and white people, but as an asian( not chinese or japanese) i can guarantee everyone fights each other here , its just a moshpit of people trying to destory each other
Latino neighborhood are prob best in my perspective as an Asian in texas some of them can be racist but it’s better than Asian group isolation and white lack of consideration
Great topic! I moved around a lot until college, experiencing the highs and lows of both environments: Flushing/LA on one side, and Deep Virginia/San Bernardino County on the other. As much as it was a drag to move so much, I ultimately think it made me a more well-rounded person with the ability to feel comfortable in any professional and social setting. That said, I think there are more downsides than upsides to growing up in the far ends of each spectrum. For example, I have a friend who immigrated to Ktown LA in elementary school and, now in his 30s, still can't speak a lick of English. Ultimately, I agree with Andrew's take on mini-enclaves. Now, as a husband and father of two, we've settled in the growing mini-enclave that is North Austin. For me, it seems to have the best of both worlds.
@@Iluvmydogs128 For how long have you been familiar with Flushing? How many years? I lived there for a week back in March and April 2000 for work. How is it different from then?
@@1525boy I lived in bayside until 2007. Flushing has a lot of Korean restaurants and plenty of kareokee bars and stuff to do, but the crime rate is also much higher. If you are Asian then you would love the Bayside, bay terrace and little neck area. Lots of Asians but the neighborhood is also very safe. It’s mostly white and Asians that live there. I honestly don’t know how things have changed since then. I’ve moved to Georgia but I do remember feeling very comfortable in my own skin when I lived there.
@@Iluvmydogs128 I was going to Flushing as well as Jackson Heights, Woodside, and Elmhurst on regular basis from 2005 through 2010. I saw how Queens and other parts of New York City (really most of the city) declined drastically over the years. Are you Korean-American? I remember seeing a lot of Koreans in Queens back in 2000 and 2001. I don’t think that’s the case anymore. I don’t think there are that many Koreans that still live in the city anymore. They now seen to be concentrated in New Jersey.
Our Filipino parents chose to raise us in a predominately white neighborhood and we attended white schools, but our social life was all Asian (Filipino and Chinese). Our parents spoke Tagalog at home and we responded in English and our food was 90% Filipino. I believe we had the best of both worlds because my brother and I are comfortable in both settings and we have a diverse group of friends.
Oh this is an extremely easy answer. Your environment does dictate your ability to be successful so if you are in a rich neighborhood, you will see multiple examples of what success looks like and how they probably came from either a poor neighborhood or just came from an established linage of people who were successful before them so you rapidly learn what it means to be on the right path from the get go. Notice I didn't say "white", "asian", or "black" neighborhood. Just rich people. I say this on purpose because while y'all get hung up on political correctness instead of how the really rich people operate which is just making moves with each other and perhaps influencing the conversations you have about each other caring too much about those words instead of what they are doing with their actions, they are making the moves to win long term. Think y'all, think...
Need to keep this kind of discussions going. I came to the US in my high school years, so didn’t experience many crude adolescent environment in elementary and middle schools. We live in a predominately white community, but we have many Asian friends outside of immediate neighborhood. I think that balance out a little. But I have to let my kids say how they feel. But I think there is always that grass is greener in the neighbors lawn mentality. So growing up in an Asian enclave may see all the problem there and want to experience as kid in a white neighborhood, and vice versa.
2:01 That could be the Fung brothers because they grew up in..Seattle? props guys. They have interacted with a lot of different cultures so they didn't stay isolated only in an all asian community in unites states.
I grew up in the Mission District of San Francisco, a primarily low-income and mixed-race/Latino neighborhood. But I went go to school and did all my dining and shopping in the Sunset/Richmond/Chinatown districts, predominantly Asians. I feel that I got the best of both worlds. I feel very Asian, Latino, and American. Most of my friends were Asian but I also had a lot of Latino, Black, and surprisingly only some White friends. I think it had something to do with income stratification. However, I feel comfortable interacting with all races, and I'd say I'm very comfortable and happy with who I am. At home, I'll speak Cantonese and watch Hong Kong movies with my parents as well as dining out with them at Asian restaurants. But I also have both a diverse friend group with whom we'll do whatever with as well as an all-Asian friend group who may be on the more stereotypical reserved side. I'll be honest though, I can feel a little awkward/not comfortable if I were to go to a "White restaurant" as I grew up with the mom and pops shops of both Asian and Latino restaurants. It has definitely been a unique experience but one that I wouldn't have exchanged anything else for.
Yes, SF is the best place to be born and raised. You feel culturely diverse internally. It’s such a melting pot here. I love and celebrate as many cultural holidays as possible
@@josephimperatrice5552 For me it’s when the waiter constantly checks up with how we’re doing. The first thing that came to my mind was Olive Garden. Apple Bees too. I originally wasn’t used to that type of service. I’ve grown up with the order food and eat, skip the chit chat kinda service which were more traditional in the types of restaurants I frequented with my parents.
Asian enclave is best if you plan on staying within that community, and starting a career and/or family there.. However, it can be a tad problematic if you ever decide to branch out and live/work elsewhere. You'll have very little to no experience interacting with other races/ cultures, which can lead to a plethora of issues & shortcomings going forward.
It is better to raise your child in a MIXED, AFFLUENT environment. One has to consider the neighborhood's socioeconomic state. Low income neighborhoods, although mixed, don't guarantee a positive life. The neighborhood's socioeconomic status is important regarding raising children. The socioeconomic status of a neighborhood is more important as to rather a neighborhood is mixed or ethnic.
I've recently made a Google Map of my 90's memory of LA/OC neighborhoods at that time. It was very judgemental, LOL. But fr, mixed neighborhoods are more fun to be around-between Brentwood vs SGV there are a lot of options. And yes, many of the Gen. 1 K-pop stars did come from Diamond Bar in adjacent to Walnut and Rowland Hts. -Some dude born and raised in L.A.
I born in in the ghetto and lived in a dangerous area then we moved to white suburbia and it was quieter and nicer. But I have a multi cultural and multiracial family so that kind of taught me to respect people of different beliefs and walks of life.
Even if you grow up in a non Asian area a lot of people are really into Kpop, Jpop, Cpop, Korean movies and dramas. So the experience might be a little better compared to the previous generations.
Interesting, I'm a immigrant and just had a converstaion about this with an American Chinese elder doctor. He told me "Do not buy House in the Chinese neighborhood. The price would go down quickly in the future". I told him I've heard the same story about black house owner backs to 60s or 70s. I guess the world didn't change so much...
personally I wouldn’t live in a black neighborhood due to violence white neighborhood due to racism or Asian neighborhood due to group isolation I strongly recommend Latino neighborhoods as even in Asian neighborhoods theirs a divide between East Asians and sea leading to separated groups
Didn't get a truly Asian American experience until I transferred into a UC lol. I spent my childhood in the SGV before it became Asian and it was a totally different experience than what it is now (or even going back to the 90s, 00s, 10s).
@@biker944 man I'd didn't even notice the picture. I would say you look ambiguous but since it looks like you can grow facial hair, I would say Filipino if you said you were asian. Honestly you look like a darker version of one of my cousins. (I'm vietnamese, Polynesian, and white).
I'm not Asian, but I grew up in an Asian enclave, and just me personally I prefer to be in an Asian enclave or at least near one simply because I can't live without the food.
i live adjacent to a white neighborhood. it has a reputation of being very racist. I think i'll rather stay in my low income predominately minority (black, Dominican, some whites) neighborhood even though the quality of life is not the highest then risk my family being racially abused and assaulted
I grew up in all white European neighborhood and it is pros and cons. The one I remember the most is loving the blonde girls and getting no love back…everyone thinking I had to hook up with Chinese…when all I wanted was Barbie…ha ha.
I used live in a asian enclave. I hung out with only asian friends, older asian people hung out with asian people. I honestly felt I could relate to asians a lot better. I moved to White suburb and then a Hispanic majority community. I would not want to live in a asian only enclave since you just live in a bubble and cut off "other" people. Its just too racial. I want to hang out with friends, not just "asian friends." In the past, I felt uncomfortable being asian when I'm outside my bubble. Now, I'm comfortable with being know as a good guy; Being "asian" is not a priority to me
They'd be accepted for the most part as white culture and standards of attractiveness tend to be idealized pretty much everywhere. They might be bullied growing up in a white neighborhood depending on how Asian they look.
I grew up in a white area. I have one friend in socal who grew up in an enclave. This friend was extremely curious about my experiences growing up in the midwest and when I told her she did seem "sheltered" but in a way where she pretty much took it as natural that the midwest was a super racist place where asians ended up depressed and self hating. I have a lot of issues with the midwest, but I felt like she exaggerated it a bit. Like she had no idea of life outside her asian bubble. But me I get confused when asians come up to me clinging for dear life because i'm the only other asian in the room and when they treat white people like they're some superior beings. people say that whitewashed asians put white people on a pedestal but i personally think asians who grew up in the bubble put them on a pedestal more. simply because they just don't know that many. for us, white people are just white people. of course there are exceptions, but it makes sense because the more you are exposed to something, the better you know and understand it. i think there are pros and cons to both types of areas. of course i don't want to spend my life experiencing and tolerating daily racism but i also don't want to grow up unknowing to life outside my own community. However, I do also think my asian friends in the midwest tolerate white peoples bs more, which I hate. They even choose wine over soju, which I do not approve. so if I had to choose, I would probably choose an enclave.
As an asian who grew up being the only asian family in the deep south, nah I hated it. I truly hated so many of them. They were racist and okay with it. Both black and white people. This is not to say most people but the fact the others just let it happen made it worst. Granted it changed when puberty hit (racism still there) as I started dating and that made me stop caring (dated non asian women as there were none around). I would say it made me tougher but I don't think I would have survived to puberty without my older brother.
Respect to you Aaron. I went through the same thing but in Indiana. Soju is awesome. If I rank the rice wines it would be in this order: 1. Com Ruou 2. Soju 3. Sake
What matters is the quality of the school system regardless of racial makeup. The quality of education far exceeds the fact that the neighborhood doesn't have many Asians.
if you are a visitor to asian zones, and not born and raised here. who you meet will not be a good general survey of who we are. a visitor is more likely to meet the ones who go clubbing every other day, hit the bar everyday etc. many people here, just like everywhere else, is just grinding. also many are less likely to even hang out with people who arent in the established friend group that has been around for decades since childhood.
Asian neighborhood hands down. And I'm not Asian, at least I don't appear to be so. I'm actually part Central Asian but I'm pretty much considered a white person with a bit of "something" like Keanu Reeves or something. So I don't say this because I'm Asian-appearing, but through experience. I grew up in Hawaii and Asian neighborhoods were always more peaceful, and the people really cared about their kids, had them in Scouts, things like that. I'm on the mainland US now and my preference I shop at Asian markets and my favorite neighborhood by far is "Japan Town" where I do a lot of things but also where I prefer the atmosphere by far. And ... the parents tend to have their kids in Scouts and other wholesome activities, small businesses are passed down to kids (one coffee shop used to be the parents' gas station) and the atmosphere is just wonderful. There are also areas here that are heavily Vietnamese or Chinese or Korean, and they're just nice places. People go out and walk, and it's peaceful. Things that are considered A-OK in mainstream American culture like having tattoos, drinking and drugs, rowdy shading into criminal behavior are things that are considered shameful in Asian cultures so you see far less of these things. The regular people in these areas are ... regular people living regular lives. You can talk to them without having to worry if they'll hustle you for spare change, try to rob you, or any crazy things like that.
"American culture like having tattoos, drinking and drugs, rowdy shading into criminal behavior".. then please leave America you communist, and stay in your communist country where you have no tattoos, drinking and drugs hahaha democrats clown
I actually would never raised my kids in an enclave of any kind. mainly for the reason that most enclaves tend to have race gangs or if there's intra-racial crimes it's left to fester. it is nice to have people who will "look after their kind" and stuff but honestly I rather not do with the negative aspects of an enclave.
I used to live in Ireland in the 70s to 80s. I grew up being mad at my parents cuz there was no other Asian kids around and the nearest Chinatown was in the UK. I had cousins in the UK and I always wondered why they brought us to Ireland and not UK, LOL. Then I moved to Canada and lived in both Asian enclaves and white/Jewish neighbourhoods. IMO, if there;s a proper Chinatown in your city where you can go visit once in a while, you should be OK.
The problem with isolating yourself in an ethnic enclave or a community that is extremely racially homogenous is that it doesn't lend well to interacting with those that are different than you. Think about first-gen immigrants that stayed in Chinatown their whole life and never even tried to learn any English and therefore can't communicate with anyone who isn't Chinese. If you're in a diverse country like America, you should take active steps to assimilate to American culture, otherwise, why not just stay in the motherland? Being in a racial bubble is like being in an echo chamber online. You're depriving yourself of outside perspectives.
Take it from me moving from houston and SoCal to North dakota to a small city because of my husbands job where there are only 3% of asian and 84% of white there is racisim here that is not spoken of and i stick out like a sore thumb to my white colleagues. Promotion or oppurtunities are not even heard of for my race. Only caucasians are on managerial position. In general yeah its better to be in a city where there are minorities. Especially asian minorities who can understand your family values and cultures. Example i had a co worker literally made fun of my food because its shreded bbq floss and they said they would never eat anything that looks like hair. Which in my opinion thats ignorant and plain rude. Yeah if i have to choose i rather live and raise my kids where there are a lot of minorities. So they can be well rounded and cultured. People are so stuck in their small bubble that its so sad how they don't know anything at all especially their behavior is just plain rude and uncalled for. I will say there are few people who are not like this but majority are and im just sick of it. I can't be myself and feel like a recluse living here. I can't wait to leave this place next year I'm counting down the months and days.
I was born in Cali, grew up in Vegas. I do sometimes wish I grew up where I was born. People really have done me wrong over the years and I’ve gotten to the point of not trusting anyone in my college. If you can afford it, move your kids to a more Asian neighborhood.
Everyone talking about holding onto your identity at home as if that wasn't already a thought before. When you're a child, social pressures have a much stronger hold on you and that's why so many second generation kids refuse to learn their heritage language. Also parents accept the assimilation as a part of life.
I grew up in a non asian enclave. Trust me on this, in an asian enclave you are a person, in a non asian enclave you are the stereotypical asian. I would rather be around people thar understand asian culture. So No, I would never want to grow up out of the enclave. I've seen people influence by other cultures and hanging out with different people and they have become losers.
Definitely live and raise kids in Asian zones that are safe with good schools and food. People growing up in non-Asian zones often seem broken. Look at how the panda YY and LeLe were mistreated and you know how cruel some people are in the US.
Asian neighbors 10000000% I have 4 and I don’t know what they look like lol, that’s how much they mind there own business. I love it, f-ck that fake nice sheet.
I grew up in a city near Sydney in Australia called Cabramatta that was almost a majority Asian area in the 80s and 90s, it now is by far majority. At the time I would have loved to live in an all white area because of the crime at the time, due to drugs. Thankfully the state managed to stop the major crime there and its quite nice now. Still, I now live in a upper middle class neighbourhood. Diverse area, still probably 40% white and good police funding.
I like to live in an Asian Enclave for the authentic selection of Asian food. I've lived in an area where there's hardly Asians and I can only enjoy white american food for so long. I love steak, fried chicken, pizza, mash potatoes etc. but I need my authentic Banh mi, Pho, Chow fun, Dim Sum, and Thai curry.
You don’t want to be a FOB. Better non Asian like the black guy before me said in the comment section you can still keep your roots and cultural traditions.
Live in an immigrant Asian neighborhood and have it easy working in a restaurant or some other business starting in elementary school and be expected to get all A’s.
If you're Asian, it's best to live by Asian people. That's where the food is, culture is, and less hate/racism! Unless, you plan to open a Restaurant then, a good location is a good location.
I strongly disagree with the advice to raise your child in an ethnic enclave if you have the option and the means. Limiting yourself to tiny bubbles of extremely similar thought and culture is ultimately going to hurt the child's ability to compete in a multicultural country like ours, and an increasingly multicultural world. I've noticed my Asian friends (2 Chinese, 1 Indian, 1 Phillipino) that grew up in my mixed black and hispanic neighborhood are a LOT more confident and comfortable in spaces compared to my friends I met in college whose parents are from the same countries but raised them in enclaves. Now, if you're a Chinese national that's only really here because your wealthy parent is paying for you western education I understand completely. You don't want to interact with non-Asians, don't really care about the country and its culture, and are not living here long term. Surrounding yourself with your own people makes sense from that angle.
Problem with filipinos being raised in mixed black hispanic areas is that they choose to adopt one of those identities even though they have no relation whatsover. Their language, style of dress, personality all morph into what they are exposed to. Its a major problem with filipino youth that nobody talks about. They have identity crises. On the flip side if they are raised in a filipino enclave they act lame and FOBish. And I can say this sheit cause Im filipino who has seen both sides so I aint going back and forth with yo ass
I'm native American but outside our nation, I felt out of place. However, I found Asians always welcomed me. So I got to be pretty comfortable around them. Hawaii is the best. Everyone can fit in. So aside from being with my people and that includes indigenous folks from everywhere with of the border, ( 1st) Hawaiians (2nd) I'd choose a friendly Asian, preferably South East Asian or ABC, ABJ, enclave over everyone else but got to be strivers no hood rats. After that middle class professional black folks. Black folks get special merit for close friendships.
Immigrant enclave. My whole neighborhood was mix with Latinos, Asians, blacks but all our parents were brand new to the USA . Not one of our parents were engineers or teachers etc. but were in manufacturing, factory workers etc.
I’m south Asian, and grew up in a Caucasian majority area. I thought it was much better for my development. I’m way more comfortable hanging out and relating to my Caucasian coworkers than my south Asian and Asian coworkers who grew up in ethnic enclaves. A lot of them seem scared to speak up against their white bosses and coworkers and just go along with the flow.
Not scared and especially not because of skin color. It's part of the culture to respect the person in senior position. Don't confuse the two. As you didn't spend much time in mixed or enclaves, you missed out on learning, experiencing and understanding different cultures, thus proving detrimental to your personal development. Your development and experience appears skewed. I'm east Asian and I grew up in a majority cauasian city, then I moved to a mixed area, then to East Asia. Only after I left the majority cauasian city, did I really start learning and becoming global because I experienced the deep ends of the entire spectrum. Open, adapt and grow.
Also, this is the opposite of reality. I'm south asian, grew up in a majority east + south asan area. I'm way more comfortable asserting myself against whites than most US asians I've seen. This is also a trend I've noticed among other asians, regardless of type growing up in a white majority environment is bad since they're naturally more aggressive/defensive.
Oh dear what to do if my Korean boyfriend and I (Columbian and Puerto Rican) have any children. I know I definitely don’t want predominantly black neighborhoods due to my many bad experiences with blacks but I’m skeptical of predominantly white neighborhoods because not too many whites like me either and there’s always going to be some Karen harassing me and any mixed children I have. I don’t know about Asian neighborhoods. My boyfriend and I never lived in one. I’m afraid some Asian Karen is going to call the police on me and Asian passing kids. Definitely something to think about.
Latino neighborhood are prob best in my perspective as an Asian in texas some of them can be racist but it’s better than Asian group isolation and white lack of consideration
It is easier to raise a Chinese American boy in an East Asian enclave than a White or Black neighborhood - especially during a time of war. A multicultural multiethnic community where no ethnic group make up more 40 percent would be the third best child rearing environment ( for chinese boys: chinese > far east asian > multicultural > [white or black]) The concern is the racial and ethnic tolerance in American society tends to drop when the USA is fighting a war in Asia because the educational and socialization process of American society is prone to xenophobia. Disclosure: I am a 4th generation American Born Chinese Male - I experienced the after effects of World War II , the Korean War, and the Vietnam War- which made many non Asian descent Americans Xenophobic wrt to Asian descent people. Should America be drawn into another Asian War - I would expect that the Asian American community will bear a significant burden of a negative socio political and economic reactions by the non Asian American communities. An example, would be the anti Chinese foreign policy has triggered some States like Texas and Florida to propose single out Chinese descent immigrants living in America with racially discriminatory laws.
Latino neighborhood are prob best in my perspective as a Vietnamese in texas some of them can be racist but it’s better than Asian group isolation and white lack of consideration
Modern Whites do have good traits though like orderliness, respect for others property and time, aesthetic design, politeness, work/life balance, cleanliness. These traits are missing in Asians not exposed to Whites lol. But if I had to choose I will choose Asian traits every time.
@@bobcol1424 our parents came for the opportunities not because they liked white people and wanted to surround themselves with them. All people are racist to a degree but I gotta say that white people really are genuinely racist.
I grew up in a all white neighborhood, I'm in therapy now , working on the harm that caused me. However I understand white people in a way others don't. Good and bad. I would never raise my own children in an all white area, I prefer a area that is truly diverse. Where there are lots of people of many races and no one group is actually the majority.
1st of all you must shower and keep yourself odor free. In western countries I worked and visited, due to the Abcc11 gene that’s one thing I could not stand. In japan if you have BO you might get fined. Also no knives and daggers on the table, chopsticks and porcelain spoons only when eating and most Asians don’t like body hair. Sign of regression. In some parts of the world body hair and BO represent youth and virility so very different.
I have an Asian cousin who grew up in a white neighborhood and I think at this point she accepts her heritage around family but ignores it around her friends. She didn't grow up in an environment where Asian things were embraced so she sees it as subpar unfortunately. I hope she doesn't see her culture as an embarrassment or something to hide from her peers as she grows up.
If Black people are behind all the Asian hate, my question is why do they still have their businesses in Black neighborhood? I think they would leave the all Black neighborhood,just asking.
Because the Chinese that open those restaurants do not have weak mentality. they have super high internal resilience. Just like all immigrants who come to US are the strongest and smartest of their kind
When I first moved here people did double takes when they saw me. Now all my local politicians are AAPI. Just don't move someplace where you'll get stared at like you're a 👽. I'm so 🍌 that I couldn't survive in a 🤙✌️🤙. I'm older and I don't act like an Asian my age.
As pro Asian as I am, I actually agree with this because I have met amazing Whites and Blacks too and they have good traits that we don’t have. They also keep us on edge and we improve internally. Without them, I think Asians will be corrupt and no one can stop us when we do become corrupt to our own selves lol
If you raise your kids in an Asian neighborhood, they are likely to be more successful. One reason is that Asian parents discipline their kids, so your children's peers will be influenced by kids with parental guidance. Also, Asians are the most paid ethnicity, so you will most likely be in a good neighborhood. I may let them go to public school in a good environment but will go private if the kids around them pressure them to do drugs, cut classes or lose their virginity.
When in Rome do as the Roman's do. I would raise my kids in a white neighborhood and I rather grow up in a white neighborhood. You speak the language better lol
Aiya, its simple lor. Live where you want to and recognize the Asian need to be smut and being one up. As a first gen, asian community would be attractive. As an American who knows Asia from books...nuff said. Where we come from, Malibu is a snickering Asian joke. Its scold your mama in our dialect. Got money everywhere is great. GTR forever.
Welp umm Ikm about to leave my majority Asian neighborhood and literally be among mostly White College kids….. welll this is going to be….interesting…?
I'm not Asian (I'm black) but I'll say this...if you find yourself in an Non-Asian Enclave, you can still hold on to your roots at home with your families.
*Don't be ashamed of your looks and culture. Be proud of it. Hold your heads up high* 👍🏿🙏🏿✌🏿
@@ohdaUtube There are role models. You just don't know. Because you grew up in a country where they don't teach your people's history and awesome people in the past. I'm sorry for you.
@@ohdaUtube As for your culture being made fun of. People still to this day make fun of black culture, even going as far as hating it. People make fun of the way we talk, walk, dress, our lips, noses, hair, ass etc but we DON'T CARE. We keep it pushing and do what we have to do. And those same groups of people try to get what we have (lip injections and BBLs etc).
As for the Asian community...do what we did and not give a F*#+ and do you.
With representation, you got to find who you can. Create as many in the media as you can. It is getting better for the Asian community but realize this....y'all are cooler than y'all give yourself credit for.
I’m mostly European but I’m a mix of different European nationalities but I feel closest to Spanish and Portuguese culture. I grew up in a neighborhood that was mostly German, Irish and English although there was some Spanish people . Being a mix of European nationalities I was both an insider via my English, Irish, German and Dutch ancestry but I was an outsider via my Spanish, Portuguese, Slovakian, Croatian and Italian ancestry.
@ohdaUtube It all depends though because I went to school with a lot of diversity and for the most part the Asians over there were Americanized so a lot of them didn't really care too much only the ones that barely spoke English we're kind of ashamed but that wasn't really a problem in my area for instance my fiancee she's from the Philippines and her Accent is very strong along with her cousins that are over here so I mean I noticed that when I'm around the ones that don't speak English properly and that are proud of their culture they tend to be more a little bit nicer versus the American iced ones
@@arturohull14161 what even is that. that's all just europe, or northwest eurasian.
There’s a large SEA community where I’m from, but went to schools where the student population was pretty diverse. I think it’s benefit me & helped me to become a more well-rounded individual.
It doesn't have to be a binary concept: have cultural enrichment at home, but make sure your child interacts with other kids from other cultures at school and some after-school activities. That way they can better assert themselves and know those organizational-interactive nuances.
The problem is also getting ingredients for your food, restaurants, and other important parts of the culture that being outside and not close to an enclave can happen.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 For me, it's kinda akin to an Italian American kid being aware of his grandma's cuisine, his family's catholic church, or the occasional trip to Sicily to meet his extended family. At the same time, he's on his school's football team, debate club, and he occasionally hangs out with his school friends outside of class. There are still stores, within the enclave, that sells the ingredients that his grandma's cooking requires. I see your point of view: it's a challenge, but not impossible.
@cqtaylor
The vast majority of Italians in The U.S live in The Northeast which has a huge Italian population. Italians are nowhere near as evenly distributed throughout the rest of the country as the Irish, the English, the Scottish, and the Germans are. There are not a lot of Italians in Minnesota and Montana for example. The vast majority of Italian immigrants who landed on Ellis Island did not want to start a new life too far away from Ellis Island!
@cqtaylor no it is impossible. Imagine being the only asian not even the only specific asian within an hour and 30 drive. Then imagine being hours plane ride from family. So the availability of your own culture's food is impossible as ingredients are not available as most of our food requires freshness (to a certain extent). Italian food ingredients are easily available everywhere in the USA. It's basically just bread ingredients and then ingredients taken from the America's.
@@josephimperatrice5552 So you're saying that individual families lack the free agency to maintain their traditions within their households? Who's responsible for passing down recipes? Who's responsible for corresponding with relatives in "The Old Country?" Who's responsible for sustaining traditions and maintaining contact with cousins? Meanwhile, that same family can ensure their kids have the social skills to live in a heterogeneous community. Is it a challenge? Yeah. Is it impossible? No.
I grew up in China, but live in Australia. I find it is definitely more beneficial to live in a multiracial community as you are going to deal with people from all different backgrounds in real life.
Hot Pot Boys always breaking down the most interesting subjects. Glad to hear your thoughts and the internet's thoughts on this!
I grew up in the sixties and seventies in an all white area. It would have been nice to know some Asians growing up to see some respectable examples because all I ever saw was the sad, weak, hated Asians on TV. All the war movies showed the Asians to be evil and in need of being killed (even though there were Asian allies of the US in every war, you never saw that shown on TV) and as far as romantic movies, Asian males were always absent or denigrated. The racism I experienced, without any countervailing examples to see, was debilitating and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Your childhood is the formative period of your life and only seeing denigration is cruel.
I'm a white guy around your age and I have seen what you describe. I will also admit that I had a very "white" upbringing and throughout my childhood and teenage years I was completely ignorant about Asian culture. After becoming an adult and meeting people from other cultures, I can now say that on average I prefer the company of Asians and would prefer to live in an Asian neighborhood.
@@user5812 Thank you for your honesty, understanding and kindness. I should also add that I had many white friends to whom my race didn’t matter and I am thankful, for without their friendship and camaraderie I would have become entirely cynical. They were great and true friends.
it's almost as if one race controls the country, and they're your enemies
Really. I experienced little had couple of fights in high school.. racism seems to me always coming from losers in their race.. maybe that's is why I don't care that much..
They made the eastern Europeans look that way too like they were all psychopathic and scheming
As a Latino man I will always respect East Asians as all East Asians have my respect.
I grew up in a working class area (with pockets of wealthier subdivisions where the Asians live), and my elementary and middle schools were really mixed. I'm glad I had this type of upbringing because I was able to experience many different cultures, while also being in tune with my own.
The best thing is that I also learned how to be streetsmart, which is something those from more white areas or Asian enclaves might not have as much of.
Where the Asian families decide to settle is going to have a large impact on that city/suburb. Like there are some decent sized suburbs of a major Midwest city that is currently 27% Asian however if you take a look at the school district demographics then you see that the school district is 40-50% Asian which means that the suburb is going to become even more Asian. Understandably families tend to settle in areas with good school districts but it would be nice to have more investment in inner city schools (for comparison the major city is only 2% Asian).
I grew up in an all white area Nor Cal sub and it was generally inclusive and embraced us with no hate or prejudice. Most of my closest friends however, still ended up not being white. Somehow we just clicked better because we were minorities and shared an immigrant experience that whites would never understand.
Whites are not tight like us, I’m Arab and I’m in the same boat. That’s why you associate with whites and hang with the people with spirit. Now when it comes to girls, nothing like an American White girl.
@Slavic Melodies We would probably get along then. I meant Americans, you can be white and still be a foreigner.
I would think the ideal scenario would be to have your kids grow up in an area where they're able to befriend people across a wide variety of cultural backgrounds (ethnic heritages, religions, income levels, politics, careers, hobbies, etc.) as it provides added empathy / wisdom you may not get access to living in a bubble. You also have to make sure that you actively encourage your kids to befriend people different than they are (not talking about just ethnicity here, I mean in ALL categories). Being able to grow up in a diverse area is a privilege some of the kids I grew up with squandered it only hanging out with people like them and I always felt bad for those kids.
That would be cool expect, no one really loves eachother behind if theyre of diffrent cultures
@@Kjswifttt Strongly disagree
@@Kyotosomo i dont know much about black and white people, but as an asian( not chinese or japanese) i can guarantee everyone fights each other here , its just a moshpit of people trying to destory each other
That's definitely ideal.
Latino neighborhood are prob best in my perspective as an Asian in texas some of them can be racist but it’s better than Asian group isolation and white lack of consideration
Great topic! I moved around a lot until college, experiencing the highs and lows of both environments: Flushing/LA on one side, and Deep Virginia/San Bernardino County on the other. As much as it was a drag to move so much, I ultimately think it made me a more well-rounded person with the ability to feel comfortable in any professional and social setting. That said, I think there are more downsides than upsides to growing up in the far ends of each spectrum. For example, I have a friend who immigrated to Ktown LA in elementary school and, now in his 30s, still can't speak a lick of English. Ultimately, I agree with Andrew's take on mini-enclaves. Now, as a husband and father of two, we've settled in the growing mini-enclave that is North Austin. For me, it seems to have the best of both worlds.
What part of Virginia were you in? What did you think of Flushing?
@@1525boyrather than Flushing I would look into Bayside or Little neck. It is close to flushing but then have much better schools.
@@Iluvmydogs128 For how long have you been familiar with Flushing? How many years? I lived there for a week back in March and April 2000 for work. How is it different from then?
@@1525boy I lived in bayside until 2007. Flushing has a lot of Korean restaurants and plenty of kareokee bars and stuff to do, but the crime rate is also much higher. If you are Asian then you would love the Bayside, bay terrace and little neck area. Lots of Asians but the neighborhood is also very safe. It’s mostly white and Asians that live there. I honestly don’t know how things have changed since then. I’ve moved to Georgia but I do remember feeling very comfortable in my own skin when I lived there.
@@Iluvmydogs128 I was going to Flushing as well as Jackson Heights, Woodside, and Elmhurst on regular basis from 2005 through 2010. I saw how Queens and other parts of New York City (really most of the city) declined drastically over the years.
Are you Korean-American? I remember seeing a lot of Koreans in Queens back in 2000 and 2001. I don’t think that’s the case anymore. I don’t think there are that many Koreans that still live in the city anymore. They now seen to be concentrated in New Jersey.
Our Filipino parents chose to raise us in a predominately white neighborhood and we attended white schools, but our social life was all Asian (Filipino and Chinese). Our parents spoke Tagalog at home and we responded in English and our food was 90% Filipino. I believe we had the best of both worlds because my brother and I are comfortable in both settings and we have a diverse group of friends.
Oh this is an extremely easy answer. Your environment does dictate your ability to be successful so if you are in a rich neighborhood, you will see multiple examples of what success looks like and how they probably came from either a poor neighborhood or just came from an established linage of people who were successful before them so you rapidly learn what it means to be on the right path from the get go. Notice I didn't say "white", "asian", or "black" neighborhood. Just rich people. I say this on purpose because while y'all get hung up on political correctness instead of how the really rich people operate which is just making moves with each other and perhaps influencing the conversations you have about each other caring too much about those words instead of what they are doing with their actions, they are making the moves to win long term. Think y'all, think...
Need to keep this kind of discussions going. I came to the US in my high school years, so didn’t experience many crude adolescent environment in elementary and middle schools. We live in a predominately white community, but we have many Asian friends outside of immediate neighborhood. I think that balance out a little. But I have to let my kids say how they feel.
But I think there is always that grass is greener in the neighbors lawn mentality. So growing up in an Asian enclave may see all the problem there and want to experience as kid in a white neighborhood, and vice versa.
2:01 That could be the Fung brothers because they grew up in..Seattle? props guys. They have interacted with a lot of different cultures so they didn't stay isolated only in an all asian community in unites states.
Much love to the Asian community 🇲🇽
I grew up in the Mission District of San Francisco, a primarily low-income and mixed-race/Latino neighborhood. But I went go to school and did all my dining and shopping in the Sunset/Richmond/Chinatown districts, predominantly Asians. I feel that I got the best of both worlds. I feel very Asian, Latino, and American. Most of my friends were Asian but I also had a lot of Latino, Black, and surprisingly only some White friends. I think it had something to do with income stratification. However, I feel comfortable interacting with all races, and I'd say I'm very comfortable and happy with who I am. At home, I'll speak Cantonese and watch Hong Kong movies with my parents as well as dining out with them at Asian restaurants. But I also have both a diverse friend group with whom we'll do whatever with as well as an all-Asian friend group who may be on the more stereotypical reserved side. I'll be honest though, I can feel a little awkward/not comfortable if I were to go to a "White restaurant" as I grew up with the mom and pops shops of both Asian and Latino restaurants. It has definitely been a unique experience but one that I wouldn't have exchanged anything else for.
Yes, SF is the best place to be born and raised. You feel culturely diverse internally. It’s such a melting pot here. I love and celebrate as many cultural holidays as possible
What's a White restaurant? Golden Corral? Applebee's?
@@josephimperatrice5552 For me it’s when the waiter constantly checks up with how we’re doing. The first thing that came to my mind was Olive Garden. Apple Bees too. I originally wasn’t used to that type of service. I’ve grown up with the order food and eat, skip the chit chat kinda service which were more traditional in the types of restaurants I frequented with my parents.
Or Denny’s!!! I love frickin Denny’s tho.
@@zaddyzach7965really I'm white there's more minorities half the time at Applebee's than whites
Asian enclave is best if you plan on staying within that community, and starting a career and/or family there.. However, it can be a tad problematic if you ever decide to branch out and live/work elsewhere. You'll have very little to no experience interacting with other races/ cultures, which can lead to a plethora of issues & shortcomings going forward.
It is better to raise your child in a MIXED, AFFLUENT environment. One has to consider the neighborhood's socioeconomic state. Low income neighborhoods, although mixed, don't guarantee a positive life. The neighborhood's socioeconomic status is important regarding raising children. The socioeconomic status of a neighborhood is more important as to rather a neighborhood is mixed or ethnic.
I've recently made a Google Map of my 90's memory of LA/OC neighborhoods at that time. It was very judgemental, LOL.
But fr, mixed neighborhoods are more fun to be around-between Brentwood vs SGV there are a lot of options.
And yes, many of the Gen. 1 K-pop stars did come from Diamond Bar in adjacent to Walnut and Rowland Hts.
-Some dude born and raised in L.A.
I born in in the ghetto and lived in a dangerous area then we moved to white suburbia and it was quieter and nicer. But I have a multi cultural and multiracial family so that kind of taught me to respect people of different beliefs and walks of life.
Good for you man
3:50 this was my approach for years. In the end you either follow one of the two heritage legacy groups or you go back to Asia.
Even if you grow up in a non Asian area a lot of people are really into Kpop, Jpop, Cpop, Korean movies and dramas. So the experience might be a little better compared to the previous generations.
Really depends, but it is a superficial level and is definitely in the zone of fetish. Midwest women can be weird.
Interesting, I'm a immigrant and just had a converstaion about this with an American Chinese elder doctor.
He told me "Do not buy House in the Chinese neighborhood. The price would go down quickly in the future".
I told him I've heard the same story about black house owner backs to 60s or 70s.
I guess the world didn't change so much...
I'm in an Asian enclave in Canada and it's very safe and clean and everything good. But I did grow up in a smaller all white city and it wasn't bad.
personally I wouldn’t live in a black neighborhood due to violence white neighborhood due to racism or Asian neighborhood due to group isolation I strongly recommend Latino neighborhoods as even in Asian neighborhoods theirs a divide between East Asians and sea leading to separated groups
Didn't get a truly Asian American experience until I transferred into a UC lol.
I spent my childhood in the SGV before it became Asian and it was a totally different experience than what it is now (or even going back to the 90s, 00s, 10s).
I'm always been in mostly mixed towns with a little of every but I'm a mix of native Taiwanese, Han Chinese Scottish and German.
Got a feeling you just look Filipino.
@Aaron Montgomery no my picture is in the profile my step mom Filipino
@@biker944 man I'd didn't even notice the picture. I would say you look ambiguous but since it looks like you can grow facial hair, I would say Filipino if you said you were asian. Honestly you look like a darker version of one of my cousins. (I'm vietnamese, Polynesian, and white).
I'm not Asian, but I grew up in an Asian enclave, and just me personally I prefer to be in an Asian enclave or at least near one simply because I can't live without the food.
If I had a kid I would bring them into a diverse area, an asian and non asian community. This way they can be exposed to different type of cultures.
I like this idea the best. A good mixture is best, but you should be around your own race/ethnicity also.
Im black but asian neighborhoods in my area always have tons of fruit trees, and neighbors are always giving ❤
Wow 😲 🍎
Where do you live ?
@@arunanarina1316prob Cali some cities have free small land to farm
i live adjacent to a white neighborhood. it has a reputation of being very racist. I think i'll rather stay in my low income predominately minority (black, Dominican, some whites) neighborhood even though the quality of life is not the highest then risk my family being racially abused and assaulted
I grew up in all white European neighborhood and it is pros and cons. The one I remember the most is loving the blonde girls and getting no love back…everyone thinking I had to hook up with Chinese…when all I wanted was Barbie…ha ha.
It comes down to how you can adapt or adjust to current situations thats put infront of you.
The first "Fast & Furious" movie back in 2001 reflected the Asian enclave of Southern California.
Rick Yune nailed the part of a "Kevin Nguyen".
I used live in a asian enclave. I hung out with only asian friends, older asian people hung out with asian people. I honestly felt I could relate to asians a lot better. I moved to White suburb and then a Hispanic majority community.
I would not want to live in a asian only enclave since you just live in a bubble and cut off "other" people. Its just too racial. I want to hang out with friends, not just "asian friends." In the past, I felt uncomfortable being asian when I'm outside my bubble. Now, I'm comfortable with being know as a good guy; Being "asian" is not a priority to me
Does a Canto and Italian neighborhood count?? Got the best of both worlds and similarities are a bit uncanny. Must be the Marco Polo thing.
Great topic! I wonder a lot about how my mixed race kids would do in an enclave?
They'd be accepted for the most part as white culture and standards of attractiveness tend to be idealized pretty much everywhere. They might be bullied growing up in a white neighborhood depending on how Asian they look.
@@tonegrail650 They are in a white neighborhood now and the bullying mainly happens when they bring Chinese food to school.
@@lamerica5219 the bullying wont stop, im a mixed kid in a white neighbourhood and the bullying got worse the older i got.
This is a very important subject! Its a topic I go back and forth but yeah ideally the best place would be a nice area that's asian friendly
I grew up in a white area. I have one friend in socal who grew up in an enclave. This friend was extremely curious about my experiences growing up in the midwest and when I told her she did seem "sheltered" but in a way where she pretty much took it as natural that the midwest was a super racist place where asians ended up depressed and self hating. I have a lot of issues with the midwest, but I felt like she exaggerated it a bit. Like she had no idea of life outside her asian bubble. But me I get confused when asians come up to me clinging for dear life because i'm the only other asian in the room and when they treat white people like they're some superior beings.
people say that whitewashed asians put white people on a pedestal but i personally think asians who grew up in the bubble put them on a pedestal more. simply because they just don't know that many. for us, white people are just white people. of course there are exceptions, but it makes sense because the more you are exposed to something, the better you know and understand it. i think there are pros and cons to both types of areas. of course i don't want to spend my life experiencing and tolerating daily racism but i also don't want to grow up unknowing to life outside my own community. However, I do also think my asian friends in the midwest tolerate white peoples bs more, which I hate. They even choose wine over soju, which I do not approve. so if I had to choose, I would probably choose an enclave.
As an asian who grew up being the only asian family in the deep south, nah I hated it. I truly hated so many of them. They were racist and okay with it. Both black and white people. This is not to say most people but the fact the others just let it happen made it worst. Granted it changed when puberty hit (racism still there) as I started dating and that made me stop caring (dated non asian women as there were none around). I would say it made me tougher but I don't think I would have survived to puberty without my older brother.
"Like she had no idea of life outside her asian bubble. "
and whites have no idea of life outside their white bubble. What's the problem exactly?
Respect to you Aaron. I went through the same thing but in Indiana. Soju is awesome. If I rank the rice wines it would be in this order:
1. Com Ruou
2. Soju
3. Sake
@@aaronmontgomery2055are you referring to Georgia? If so I would have to agree lol.
@@aaronmontgomery2055are you referring to Georgia? If so I would have to agree
What matters is the quality of the school system regardless of racial makeup. The quality of education far exceeds the fact that the neighborhood doesn't have many Asians.
Top answer right here. Most people in these comments are lost
if you are a visitor to asian zones, and not born and raised here. who you meet will not be a good general survey of who we are. a visitor is more likely to meet the ones who go clubbing every other day, hit the bar everyday etc. many people here, just like everywhere else, is just grinding. also many are less likely to even hang out with people who arent in the established friend group that has been around for decades since childhood.
Asian neighborhood hands down. And I'm not Asian, at least I don't appear to be so. I'm actually part Central Asian but I'm pretty much considered a white person with a bit of "something" like Keanu Reeves or something. So I don't say this because I'm Asian-appearing, but through experience. I grew up in Hawaii and Asian neighborhoods were always more peaceful, and the people really cared about their kids, had them in Scouts, things like that. I'm on the mainland US now and my preference I shop at Asian markets and my favorite neighborhood by far is "Japan Town" where I do a lot of things but also where I prefer the atmosphere by far. And ... the parents tend to have their kids in Scouts and other wholesome activities, small businesses are passed down to kids (one coffee shop used to be the parents' gas station) and the atmosphere is just wonderful.
There are also areas here that are heavily Vietnamese or Chinese or Korean, and they're just nice places. People go out and walk, and it's peaceful. Things that are considered A-OK in mainstream American culture like having tattoos, drinking and drugs, rowdy shading into criminal behavior are things that are considered shameful in Asian cultures so you see far less of these things. The regular people in these areas are ... regular people living regular lives. You can talk to them without having to worry if they'll hustle you for spare change, try to rob you, or any crazy things like that.
"American culture like having tattoos, drinking and drugs, rowdy shading into criminal behavior".. then please leave America you communist, and stay in your communist country where you have no tattoos, drinking and drugs hahaha democrats clown
Asians came from Shem, the best of Noah’s children
I actually would never raised my kids in an enclave of any kind. mainly for the reason that most enclaves tend to have race gangs or if there's intra-racial crimes it's left to fester. it is nice to have people who will "look after their kind" and stuff but honestly I rather not do with the negative aspects of an enclave.
I used to live in Ireland in the 70s to 80s. I grew up being mad at my parents cuz there was no other Asian kids around and the nearest Chinatown was in the UK. I had cousins in the UK and I always wondered why they brought us to Ireland and not UK, LOL. Then I moved to Canada and lived in both Asian enclaves and white/Jewish neighbourhoods. IMO, if there;s a proper Chinatown in your city where you can go visit once in a while, you should be OK.
The problem with isolating yourself in an ethnic enclave or a community that is extremely racially homogenous is that it doesn't lend well to interacting with those that are different than you. Think about first-gen immigrants that stayed in Chinatown their whole life and never even tried to learn any English and therefore can't communicate with anyone who isn't Chinese. If you're in a diverse country like America, you should take active steps to assimilate to American culture, otherwise, why not just stay in the motherland? Being in a racial bubble is like being in an echo chamber online. You're depriving yourself of outside perspectives.
Take it from me moving from houston and SoCal to North dakota to a small city because of my husbands job where there are only 3% of asian and 84% of white there is racisim here that is not spoken of and i stick out like a sore thumb to my white colleagues. Promotion or oppurtunities are not even heard of for my race. Only caucasians are on managerial position. In general yeah its better to be in a city where there are minorities. Especially asian minorities who can understand your family values and cultures. Example i had a co worker literally made fun of my food because its shreded bbq floss and they said they would never eat anything that looks like hair. Which in my opinion thats ignorant and plain rude. Yeah if i have to choose i rather live and raise my kids where there are a lot of minorities. So they can be well rounded and cultured.
People are so stuck in their small bubble that its so sad how they don't know anything at all especially their behavior is just plain rude and uncalled for. I will say there are few people who are not like this but majority are and im just sick of it. I can't be myself and feel like a recluse living here.
I can't wait to leave this place next year I'm counting down the months and days.
Yeah then you get plastered with a trait like introversion when you really are extrovert lol
I recommend Latino suburbs Asians there usually aren’t the recluse that goes to work and then home with no sense of community the
I was born in Cali, grew up in Vegas. I do sometimes wish I grew up where I was born. People really have done me wrong over the years and I’ve gotten to the point of not trusting anyone in my college. If you can afford it, move your kids to a more Asian neighborhood.
Everyone talking about holding onto your identity at home as if that wasn't already a thought before. When you're a child, social pressures have a much stronger hold on you and that's why so many second generation kids refuse to learn their heritage language. Also parents accept the assimilation as a part of life.
Assimilation IS the goal. Parents didn't migrate to this country to try to turn chunks of it into the old country.
I’m from Vancouver Canada, lots of Asians here
I grew up in a non asian enclave. Trust me on this, in an asian enclave you are a person, in a non asian enclave you are the stereotypical asian. I would rather be around people thar understand asian culture. So No, I would never want to grow up out of the enclave. I've seen people influence by other cultures and hanging out with different people and they have become losers.
Definitely live and raise kids in Asian zones that are safe with good schools and food. People growing up in non-Asian zones often seem broken.
Look at how the panda YY and LeLe were mistreated and you know how cruel some people are in the US.
Asian neighbors 10000000% I have 4 and I don’t know what they look like lol, that’s how much they mind there own business. I love it, f-ck that fake nice sheet.
But when you finally do encounter them, they are truly nicer than the average non Asian neighbor too
I grew up in a city near Sydney in Australia called Cabramatta that was almost a majority Asian area in the 80s and 90s, it now is by far majority. At the time I would have loved to live in an all white area because of the crime at the time, due to drugs. Thankfully the state managed to stop the major crime there and its quite nice now. Still, I now live in a upper middle class neighbourhood. Diverse area, still probably 40% white and good police funding.
I like to live in an Asian Enclave for the authentic selection of Asian food. I've lived in an area where there's hardly Asians and I can only enjoy white american food for so long. I love steak, fried chicken, pizza, mash potatoes etc. but I need my authentic Banh mi, Pho, Chow fun, Dim Sum, and Thai curry.
agreed totally!
You don’t want to be a FOB. Better non Asian like the black guy before me said in the comment section you can still keep your roots and cultural traditions.
We make fun of FOB but now FOB is where it’s at. It’s the only attractive stability going on
Raise them in a mixed area ! Like Queens. Let them have both .
Never actually thought of this, I usually only look at crime stat, transportation, and amenities nearby
I Live in an Asian Enclave. I Love it.
YOU BROS ARE GREAT . .
Live in an immigrant Asian neighborhood and have it easy working in a restaurant or some other business starting in elementary school and be expected to get all A’s.
If you're Asian, it's best to live by Asian people. That's where the food is, culture is, and less hate/racism!
Unless, you plan to open a Restaurant then, a good location is a good location.
I might want to raise my kids in Irvine, CA 😆 you get the best of all worlds in SoCal
I strongly disagree with the advice to raise your child in an ethnic enclave if you have the option and the means. Limiting yourself to tiny bubbles of extremely similar thought and culture is ultimately going to hurt the child's ability to compete in a multicultural country like ours, and an increasingly multicultural world. I've noticed my Asian friends (2 Chinese, 1 Indian, 1 Phillipino) that grew up in my mixed black and hispanic neighborhood are a LOT more confident and comfortable in spaces compared to my friends I met in college whose parents are from the same countries but raised them in enclaves.
Now, if you're a Chinese national that's only really here because your wealthy parent is paying for you western education I understand completely. You don't want to interact with non-Asians, don't really care about the country and its culture, and are not living here long term. Surrounding yourself with your own people makes sense from that angle.
Problem with filipinos being raised in mixed black hispanic areas is that they choose to adopt one of those identities even though they have no relation whatsover. Their language, style of dress, personality all morph into what they are exposed to. Its a major problem with filipino youth that nobody talks about. They have identity crises. On the flip side if they are raised in a filipino enclave they act lame and FOBish. And I can say this sheit cause Im filipino who has seen both sides so I aint going back and forth with yo ass
I'm native American but outside our nation, I felt out of place. However, I found Asians always welcomed me. So I got to be pretty comfortable around them. Hawaii is the best. Everyone can fit in. So aside from being with my people and that includes indigenous folks from everywhere with of the border, ( 1st) Hawaiians (2nd) I'd choose a friendly Asian, preferably South East Asian or ABC, ABJ, enclave over everyone else but got to be strivers no hood rats. After that middle class professional black folks. Black folks get special merit for close friendships.
Immigrant enclave. My whole neighborhood was mix with Latinos, Asians, blacks but all our parents were brand new to the USA . Not one of our parents were engineers or teachers etc. but were in manufacturing, factory workers etc.
I’m south Asian, and grew up in a Caucasian majority area. I thought it was much better for my development. I’m way more comfortable hanging out and relating to my Caucasian coworkers than my south Asian and Asian coworkers who grew up in ethnic enclaves. A lot of them seem scared to speak up against their white bosses and coworkers and just go along with the flow.
Not scared and especially not because of skin color. It's part of the culture to respect the person in senior position. Don't confuse the two.
As you didn't spend much time in mixed or enclaves, you missed out on learning, experiencing and understanding different cultures, thus proving detrimental to your personal development. Your development and experience appears skewed.
I'm east Asian and I grew up in a majority cauasian city, then I moved to a mixed area, then to East Asia. Only after I left the majority cauasian city, did I really start learning and becoming global because I experienced the deep ends of the entire spectrum. Open, adapt and grow.
South asia is Caucasian with brown skin
@@aiswaryabersan7983 europe is India with white skin
Also, this is the opposite of reality.
I'm south asian, grew up in a majority east + south asan area. I'm way more comfortable asserting myself against whites than most US asians I've seen. This is also a trend I've noticed among other asians, regardless of type
growing up in a white majority environment is bad since they're naturally more aggressive/defensive.
Asian enclave, I am living and most of my life in a non-Asian enclave. my squeeze would love it!
I'm asian and proud of it and would never change it.
Before I was born I remember choosing two traits: the highest wisdom and the correct path. I was born as a Viet/Chinese
It could just be a false memory
Oh dear what to do if my Korean boyfriend and I (Columbian and Puerto Rican) have any children. I know I definitely don’t want predominantly black neighborhoods due to my many bad experiences with blacks but I’m skeptical of predominantly white neighborhoods because not too many whites like me either and there’s always going to be some Karen harassing me and any mixed children I have. I don’t know about Asian neighborhoods. My boyfriend and I never lived in one. I’m afraid some Asian Karen is going to call the police on me and Asian passing kids. Definitely something to think about.
Asian Karens marry White men and want to live in White neighborhoods so you’re actually safer in all Asian neighborhoods
Latino neighborhood are prob best in my perspective as an Asian in texas some of them can be racist but it’s better than Asian group isolation and white lack of consideration
It is easier to raise a Chinese American boy in an East Asian enclave than a White or Black neighborhood - especially during a time of war. A multicultural multiethnic community where no ethnic group make up more 40 percent would be the third best child rearing environment ( for chinese boys: chinese > far east asian > multicultural > [white or black]) The concern is the racial and ethnic tolerance in American society tends to drop when the USA is fighting a war in Asia because the educational and socialization process of American society is prone to xenophobia. Disclosure: I am a 4th generation American Born Chinese Male - I experienced the after effects of World War II , the Korean War, and the Vietnam War- which made many non Asian descent Americans Xenophobic wrt to Asian descent people. Should America be drawn into another Asian War - I would expect that the Asian American community will bear a significant burden of a negative socio political and economic reactions by the non Asian American communities. An example, would be the anti Chinese foreign policy has triggered some States like Texas and Florida to propose single out Chinese descent immigrants living in America with racially discriminatory laws.
Latino neighborhood are prob best in my perspective as a Vietnamese in texas some of them can be racist but it’s better than Asian group isolation and white lack of consideration
Why would you immigrate in the states if you still want to live in an Asian neighborhood?
Modern Whites do have good traits though like orderliness, respect for others property and time, aesthetic design, politeness, work/life balance, cleanliness. These traits are missing in Asians not exposed to Whites lol. But if I had to choose I will choose Asian traits every time.
@@mattparke4370yeah for the most part they are more orderly they just lack consideration of asians
@@gametri-eq6lj I find the lack of eye contact to us be rather rude. Lots of white people around me are nice but sometimes they do this.
@@Iluvmydogs128 yeah that’s no good
@@bobcol1424 our parents came for the opportunities not because they liked white people and wanted to surround themselves with them. All people are racist to a degree but I gotta say that white people really are genuinely racist.
simple q....if you feel that "endangered" that you can't exist outside an asian enclave.....why are you in the western world?
Asians in a white enclaves can face a lot of prejudice and bullying. I know someone's whose Asian son is facing this...😢
Well I was raised in Chicago and it was mixed which I am grateful for because now when I visit my old neighborhood it's all white.
enclave only! don't traumatise your kids. they can go on school trips outside.
I think it depends
I grew up in a all white neighborhood, I'm in therapy now , working on the harm that caused me. However I understand white people in a way others don't. Good and bad. I would never raise my own children in an all white area, I prefer a area that is truly diverse. Where there are lots of people of many races and no one group is actually the majority.
ima need to know who the girl on the left on the thumbnail is
Did you just say Toronto? Toronto's in Canada don'cha-know? (I'm a Torontonian)
1st of all you must shower and keep yourself odor free. In western countries I worked and visited, due to the Abcc11 gene that’s one thing I could not stand. In japan if you have BO you might get fined. Also no knives and daggers on the table, chopsticks and porcelain spoons only when eating and most Asians don’t like body hair. Sign of regression. In some parts of the world body hair and BO represent youth and virility so very different.
Reach higher highs for lower Lows😊
Y'all missed San Diego
I have an Asian cousin who grew up in a white neighborhood and I think at this point she accepts her heritage around family but ignores it around her friends. She didn't grow up in an environment where Asian things were embraced so she sees it as subpar unfortunately. I hope she doesn't see her culture as an embarrassment or something to hide from her peers as she grows up.
Don’t worry, some White peeps will pick up aspects of your friend’s culture, make it cool, and the White world will seek after it
SFV! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
So, what's up with Chris Curtis and ESPN personality Mina Kimes calling Nips? he only gets suspended for a week, this is bullshit. He should be fired.
Only matters where the good schools are
If Black people are behind all the Asian hate, my question is why do they still have their businesses in Black neighborhood? I think they
would leave the all Black neighborhood,just asking.
Because the Chinese that open those restaurants do not have weak mentality. they have super high internal resilience. Just like all immigrants who come to US are the strongest and smartest of their kind
As a Christian you should be defending those Asians
Asian because you have better food options that’s not Chick Fil A, Chipotle or Wawa
When I first moved here people did double takes when they saw me. Now all my local politicians are AAPI. Just don't move someplace where you'll get stared at like you're a 👽. I'm so 🍌 that I couldn't survive in a 🤙✌️🤙. I'm older and I don't act like an Asian my age.
I'm against one race neighborhood's
All neighborhood's should be multi racial in the us
As pro Asian as I am, I actually agree with this because I have met amazing Whites and Blacks too and they have good traits that we don’t have. They also keep us on edge and we improve internally. Without them, I think Asians will be corrupt and no one can stop us when we do become corrupt to our own selves lol
WMAF -We live in the wealthy suburbs of Tampa Bay Fl.
We have a lot of diversity here and a lot of foreigners imigrate here.
If you raise your kids in an Asian neighborhood, they are likely to be more successful. One reason is that Asian parents discipline their kids, so your children's peers will be influenced by kids with parental guidance. Also, Asians are the most paid ethnicity, so you will most likely be in a good neighborhood. I may let them go to public school in a good environment but will go private if the kids around them pressure them to do drugs, cut classes or lose their virginity.
Asians are white but ethnically Asian. I don’t see a difference.
When in Rome do as the Roman's do. I would raise my kids in a white neighborhood and I rather grow up in a white neighborhood. You speak the language better lol
The racism in a white neighborhood is not worth it
@@MelodiousRhyme She doesnt care; she just wants those white dudes to clap her cheeks.
Aiya, its simple lor.
Live where you want to and recognize the Asian need to be smut and being one up.
As a first gen, asian community would be attractive.
As an American who knows Asia from books...nuff said.
Where we come from, Malibu is a snickering Asian joke. Its scold your mama in our dialect.
Got money everywhere is great.
GTR forever.
Welp umm Ikm about to leave my majority Asian neighborhood and literally be among mostly White College kids….. welll this is going to be….interesting…?
I live with dogs. Much better than any humans 😁😁😁
I find this channel very ASIAN
asian enclave is better