I honestly wish Lefty was a Foxy suit and Scrap Chica was in the game so we had variations of the original 4. It could clear up confusion over the MoltenMCI theory and maybe explain why Funtime Chica seems to not be a danger to kids like the others. Maybe it’s because we saw the suits burn in FNAF 3 she wasn’t included to stop confusion but maybe whatever spirit in Golden Freddy put Susie’s spirit back together while the other 3 got taken to the bunker? It would line up with the amount of animatronics in Molten Freddy (cuz apparently Bon Bon doesn’t count as a Funtime for some reason despite having his own mind) Idk it just kinda sucks that we got 2 games in a row with no Chica and it was weird there were animatronics from every previous game except for the first and two were from SL. Chica was always my favorite and I’m glad Security Breach at least gave her a bigger role but really I wonder what more could’ve been for her
The fact that we've gotten to a point where people have to say "If UCN is to be trusted" shows just how much of a tangled mess the lore is at this point.
Fr that ending was so meaningful when it first came out. The fact that they've basically retconned it to be retroactively meaningless is really disappointing
@@jpcsdutra The thing is that it was presented as the definitive ending to the series, (IIRC) it was supposed to be the final game. They don't feel "alternate" due to the difficulty and presentation. Maybe it's just how other games do it, but they feel like the true ending. Pizzeria Simulator and Ultimate Custom Night have the exact same issue. It always feels sour for any series, it retroactively makes the story weaker. I get why, a franchise has to continue, this is a problem for a lot of stuff out there. It just makes it difficult to get invested, all that terror and sadness gets weaker the tenth time it happens y'know? And when the good things don't matter then, what's left? Series that use disconnected stories do it best. When the tragedy ends in peace or despair, it sticks. That means it'll always stick with you, no matter what's next.
Logbook Chica is such a cool character I honestly really wish that she would make a game appearance Also FNaF AR is shutting down. We'll never get Lefty released in it :(
@@kitdoesstufflmao yeah I know people has different perspectives but I don’t consider creepy as cool because cool when something looks really cool that makes someone go “WOW” but creepy makes things heavily disturbing and I have been a horror fan a long long time and I’ve seen some stuff that you don’t want to know cause it’s really creepy
@@kitdoesstufflmao (also a year ago someone was shot here and I saw his dead body but the police quickly covered luckily the person who shot him was arrested I wasn’t that terrified when I saw his body because I’m use to seeing those stuff on UA-cam, old creepy pastas, classic horror movies yeah it’s disturbing)
Watching this had made me realise how little of the mci children we actually know, Susie has her story and the minigame, Jeremy has that one line from Comedy Bot in Security Breach, Gabriel and Fritz get nothing, and Cassidy is debatable
Keep in mind I know it might be a theory but I don't think Jeremy Fitzgerald is casies father. Also, while I do believe cassies dad is in fact the person we play as in help wanted 2 and also one of the 4 bullies with the bonnie mask from fnaf 4. It's not Jeremy imo.
Well, Gabriel does get something-- in fact, he gets more than the other MCI kids (Cassidy excluded because atp we've no clue what the hell her role even is in the plot). He's all but confirmed to be the b-day boy of the MCI in Help Wanted-- he's the character we represent in the Pizza Party level and get who gets killed on his birthday by Glitchtrap (who obv represents Purple Guy) only to be stuffed in Freddy. Gabriel, as Withered Freddy, is the protagonist of SAVETHEM in FNAF 2, which is, imo, the most wasted plotline in the whole series, because it actively shows Freddy Fazbear as an actual plot-relevant protagonist, only to never be mentioned again. Finally, the very last Frights story (You're the Band) features Gabriel as the main antagonist and someone who wants "to save the others", meaning he has a sense of responsibility over the other MCI kids and is like their leader (that said, this too is completely trown out the window in the movie, where the Golden Freddy kid takes literally all the relevance from the other MCI kids)
It is so bizarre to me that Chica and the soul possessing her has so much information about her next to Charlie and the puppet and yet she's one of the most underrated characters
no matter what variation she is, Chica always ends up drawing the short straw. it's a shame, because most of the chica variants happen to be my favorite animatronics. classic chica, toy chica, funtime chica, rockstar chica, and especially glamrock chica
Come to think of it, was Susie originally meant to be TOYSNHK but was changed? Since she was the first one William killed, William literally using her dead dog lure her to her death, and possibly logbook Chica being cut from pizza sim maybe that’s why but Scott changed it to Cassidy/Golden Freddy (and it’s also why we get a backstory on her specifically)
it took me so long to figure wtf toysnhk meant lol. also the "I was the first I have seen everything" line is so vague you can't really make any firm conclusions about what it means. It wouldn't surprise me if Scott didn't even know what it meant and just thought it would be cool to give Chica something special lol
@@Sparkling34how is it ‘so vague’… its literally just shes either the first kid murdered in the mci or shes the first kid to possess an animatronic out of the mci.
Could it be possible that the midnight motorist minigame was supposed to link to Susie as well, but the dialogue was changed after scrap chica was cut? It would give an explanation of the color swap, the grave and the confusing footprints... or I'm just crazy which is also fine.
Coming home but in game? Interesting. But I think the grey couch potato says " *He* had a rough day" so the runner was a boy. I don't this was quite it, but maybe close.
@Hex.A.Decimal so does that mean that maybe it could've been Fitz (Foxy) who ran away? It said he was running so maybe he ran to where he thought he'd be safe?
@@destinyread4198 I don't think so. I kind of wrote off MM a long time ago, though. It's too vague. If anything I think it probably has to do with the Vengeful Spirit. The OG 5 being lured and killed inside the Pizzeria, and whatever this one is being kidnapped and killed from their own home.
Maybe Logbook Chica could've been a Scrapping Level tutorial, showing you how the mechanics work, and how to check for tells. She probably could've even replaced Scrap Baby at the opening bit.
Any new rendition of Classic Style Chica is a welcome addition in my book. Either way on a serious note I think that Chica shouldve had more of a send off considering the spirit inside "saw everything" plus the idea that the animatronic survived all those years too still seeing everything up until Pizza Sim. Persistence is that chickens best trait imo. Couldve been lore stuff and some minor dark humor too
Susie and Chica had to have been planned for something. Susie gets the most attention, she has a lot more humanisation compared to the rest of the kids, Chica is one of the few from the original cast to repeatedly come back. Why do they consider this character significant enough to constantly reference, yet not important enough to have a definitive answer for? They wanted to use her for something yet they chickened out for one reason or another. It's weird. What is it about Chica that makes her stand out? The creators to keep bringing her back only to not actually do anything with her.
The kids memories are tied to the Remnant so they posses whatever has the bulk of said remnant. The theory has the Remnant move from the Withered/Classics to the Funtimes when Afton reclaims the older Endos of the original 5. Ennard, Moltern Freddy and the Blob are all made of the funtime animations which has said remnant from the Funtimes which was sourced from the original 5. It's really not that complicated
well uh, the classics literally ARE the withereds, and the funtimes literally are ennard AND molten freddy. the blob is still a mystery and its unknown who, if anyone, is possessing it. so really its just saying the MCI kids possessed 2 sets of animatronics at different times, which isnt that much of a stretch
You know, this is a decent point really, especially since Pizza Sim opens with the Scrap Baby repair that goes no where and is just kinda randomly repeated. Would've fit perfectly with Chica appearing instead in her place then being active from Night 1 It's a Shame Scott doesn't really do content updates to his games, as I am certain this would be a nice addition to Pizza Sim if balanced right lol
The Scrap Chica idea also fits in with Chica’s absence in Sister Location. Molten Freddy being Ennard would include Freddy, Bonnie (via BonBon) and Foxy.
It's actually an embarrassing photo of William at a Christmas party which kickstarted the games events. The original mci kids saw it and he had to murder them to keep them silent.
@@brendanmuller7301 it's William in a bunny mask and a maid suit posing for Henry's brother, who was named Cassidy and was a midget, which is why he's put as a victim of Missing Children Incident, despite being an adult
5:34, you can also see Puppet ascending with the MCI kids, but we know Puppet is still active or else Lefty wouldn't need to exist 7:28, M1 are the Ads in Pizza Sim, they originally acted like a animatronic but could move faster & and the jumpscare was a popup, this was removed for a unknown reason being replaced with a timer & percentage system
@@RaisinHook Yeah, that's when Lolbit finally appeared in the main franchise (and SL as an easter egg) but it is a FNaF World character so existed before even that. I can't help but to assume, with how everything reads, that m1's original function was Lolbit and due to it being too difficult and thematically irrelevant it got cut and saved for UCN.
@@Hex.A.Decimal the FNAF World characters are different characters from the main ones (ie. Adventure Withered Bonnie is not Withered Bonnie), & Jack-O-Chica appeared in UCN so UCN has to take place sometime after the in-world FNAF Games where made (witch includes Sister Location Custom Nights)
It would've been cool if Logbook Chica was used to lure in the Puppet originally. Charlie's whole "No soul left behind" approach would drive the puppet to try and find Chica, only to turn to the left and find a bear trap waiting for them. Would've fleshed out both characters a bit more.
I like the idea of logbook Chica being a possibly lost to time fnaf 6 aniamtorncis. Specially being one of the main from the scrap gang. Hell, I love logbook chica's design! Real cryptic gal. But sadly, Fnaf 6 can't have shit in this world :( (oh yeah Sammy Emily video lets gooooo!! I can't wait to hear rants abt him!!)
the ennard vent repair chica does actually appear in that level! her body is seen above the center vent during the gear section and her head appears somewhere else i cant remember off the top of my head
Chica (withered or not) has litterally said 'I was the first, I have seen everything' which is probably the most info we have gotten around, at least, Chica. Then it is never really expanded upon.
You know with susie having scrap chica and Charlie having lefty, I wonder if one of the remaining 3 where meant to have a massive story mini game like fruity maze or security puppet. Would this limit Down midnight motorist to one of the remaining 3 scraps?
I remember when I first saw this pic of logbook chica when it was floating around the internet same time when the scrap baby teaser came out I was curious as to why chica would come back since at the time she was dismantled but I summed it up to this is wha she looked like after Afton broke the animatronics in the fnaf 3 mini games. It would’ve been interesting to see what the other members looked like after getting dismantled.
noooooo u forgot logbook chica's small cameo in the faz fright story "what we found" although L-chica does make a pretty good candidate for m1 and could explain why henry thinks he lured the mci in the building, the quote from insanity ending "I don't know how those tiny breaths of life came to inhabit those machines. But they will never find rest now. Not like this. I have to call them all back. All of them. Together in one place." implies that most of the mci should still be in the building assuming molten mci wasn't true, under this theory, only L-chica would be in the building and the other potential mci spirits henry wanted to set free all unaccounted for, and it would be stranger lore wise to scrap logbook chica, since now chica isn't in the building anymore since henry didn't bring any of the mci back. of course there is still susie trapped in the fruity maze arcade, but that is optional which is strange since if its how henry gets to free susie, then it should fall under paragraph 4 and be a requirement to be burned in ur video u also said molten mci would be strange if the good ending set the spirits free during fnaf 3, i think that is true sus, but that also is strange for susie since she should've also been freed, either: -bad ending happened -happiest day takes place after fnaf 6 -the mci are all gone and not in fnaf 6 i personally think m1 is just mike, i think most people think that logbook chica was just to tease her inclusion into faz frights but the dates would be pretty weird, honestly no idea myself, it seems she probably was intended to be used in the games but her inclusion makes less sense in the game timeline since: -the illustration shows chica in an endo-02 model -her head is really broken down missing the top beak but her head in fnaf 3 in the good or bad endings has the top beak but missing the bottom beak -phone dude couldn't find any of the animatronics except springtrap so L-chica must've been adventuring or something
According to HW2, Chica died first, then the rest, *then Charlie.* Whatever Henry meant, we know Charlie was the *last* to die before Elizabeth. Either he meant something else, or he was wrong. If we're going to take so much from the books as well, we also have to accept that the MCI happened in 1985, so the canon order is CC, MCI, Charlie, then Elizabeth. A more interesting, perhaps more important, note is that Henry implies he helped William, and the suggestions that he had something to do with things like the Scooper and the Funtimes. After all, we do find the scooper down beneath the Pizza Sim location, and he *had those designs.* If Henry built that, why? More importantly, why is it that the games and the books keep suggesting Henry built Baby? *Did he help build them? Did he know?* I keep seeing suggestions that Henry was *not so innocent* and that if he wasn't just complicit, he might've been an *accomplice.*
HW2 makes a sizeable plothole when it comes to continuity, because suddenly dates are gonna be all sorts of screwy. And we can't take from the books, because they say Charlie died in 83. I'm gonna say that there might be a changeup of the line of succession for future plot purposes. ...Or there's two puppets, lol.
@@Dr_Damon_1111 If your entire basis is the idea that "Henry said so" when we've been told multiple times after that that Susie died first, then I'll simply inform you that you are incorrect and we'll move right along.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 I was more referring to the *6 bodies* we see in 1985 in ITP, rather than the absurdities of the Novels, in which I don't recall a puppet and, well, the fact Henry is *dead as fuck* without burning a certain rabbit corpse. However, even in the novels we are told outright the date is still 1985, and with Charlie being placed among the victims now by the most recent reveal, it's hardly a stretch to say that we have a date, an order, and a confirmation Especially given the additional focus ITP is getting with the next title focusing on it, and the inclusion of the puppet as a victim of the MCI, namely, the last victim, I don't see any version of the timeline that requires Charlie to die first, unless you are absurdly insistent on the line *"Not until I undo what he has done and heal this wound - a wound first inflicted on me, but then one that I let bleed out to cause all of this."* to exclusively mean his child's death, and not be relating to the reveal in that sentence that he knew William's actions and chose not to hold him accountable until now. The key phrase being "that I let bleed out" not "first inflicted on me" and suggesting more his awareness than his victimhood. All of that, and the fact we're told repeatedly that Susie was his first victim, not Charlie, and the level of importance placed on her, which you yourself brought up. Suggesting that Henry's vague line somehow wins out over a blatant *"I Was The First, I Have Seen Everything"* which leaves nothing to interpretation. Discarding one and clinging to the other is just cherry picking evidence to fit a predetermined outcome.
@@Dr_Damon_1111 I'm going to go on a limb and say you weren't paying attention to the graveyard in HW2, but also, you did, you just did the thing, you went out of your way to state that one vague piece of evidence fully supported what you had to say, and that the other was somehow not evidence because, for some reason, you have already decided your opinion is right with no evidence. As I've stated, Henry never says Charlie died first, that's fan interpretation. He says he was inflicted with a wound that he let spill out. As far as we know he could've been the first to learn of his child's death. We've been told by modern sources that Susie predates Charlie. We've been told repeatedly the date 1985. We've been told multiple times that Charlie was part of the MCI. At this point, it's not really up to be refuted.
I like this idea. This would have actually been a more logical explanation for what happened to the MCI kids than Molten MCI or Rockstar MCI ever could be. Yes, the latter does exist and it makes even less sense than Molten MCI, because why would anyone take the broken, demolished by Afton, probably burned in Fazbear's Frights parts of the FNAF 1 animatronics and build the Rockstar animatronics out of them?
The fact that a FNAF book teased the next game, but the animatronic wasn’t in it shows when the FNAF lore knows the right time to do a surprising twist.
Love to see Scrap Chica getting some attention, I always thought it was tragically poetic that she be lost to history but it’s nice to see a spotlight being put on her
The Fazbear Frights book “What We Found” has a brief cameo of a weird, destroyed Chica as a hallucination that the main character has. It’s possible that was also an allusion to Logbook Chica.
You always upload when I need you the most, you're the best I just finished an exhausting assignment in the last minute and as I was getting comfy this video popped up on my home page so thank you!
Considering the intro to the game with Scrapbaby, she could’ve been in night 1, instead of being introduced and only showing up at night 3 which makes no sense. If I was to order the nights the salvages would go: night 1 scrapbaby, night 2 lefty, nighty 3 molten, night 4 Afton, which would leave 1 final night salvaging Chica
I do feel like the concept of bringing back the missing children to fnaf 6 cut for time And my personal hot takes there wasn’t part of the video of yours the concept all the original MC and crying child possess golden Freddy/Fred bear animatronic become the fifth animatronic instead of that weird wooden paper pal standing How terrible fnaf 6 is I think that Chica/Susie dodge bullet right there
Great vid as always, I actually never heard of that character before, pretty nice to leard new stuff like that! Also, to be fair, I'd say it makes sense to not have her included in the game, because it would just be odd to have her return. She would be in Fnaf 6, but as the only missing children remaining? And I'm not even saying "why her instead of Freddy, Bonnie or Foxy", but "why would a singular missing children would be in the game instead of all 5 of them? If they all moved on in the Happiest day minigame before Fnaf 6, then not a single one of them is supposed to be here in Fnaf 6. If them moving on only happens at the end of Fnaf 6, then they would ALL be supposed to be in Fnaf 6. For both cases, isolating one of the missing children from the others just wouldn't make sense. Mayyyybe Cassidy would get a pass, but Susie wouldn't.
I feel like it seemed that Chica needed to be in fnaf 6 because of the mystery of her absence in SL, or Scott thought she needed to be. Honestly, logbook Chica and fruity maze are implications that Suzie was originally supposed to be a ringleader type character and possibly the vengeful spirit which would be later confirmed in UCN, but I think it gave way to much focus on the character and especially with the "I was the first" stichk and a vengeful nature would have had to force a cannon timeline of the deaths which would obviously be messy as it would mean for Suzie to be as vengeful as she is she would have had to die probably before 1983 to preceed both the crying child and Charlie in order to make her seem more independent and not needing Charlie to give her the gift of life, which would have been a solid story however a shitstorm of a mess since Chica wasn't given much importance or leadership implications up until mid-series with the very, VERY obscure "Chica's party world" text. I believe that this storyline was retconned as there wasn't proper buildup and it was more sensible to give the spotlight in UCN to the more menacing golden Freddy. BTW, I'd never heard of logbook/scrap Chica up until this video
Don't forget, the FNAF1 animatronics had plenty of duplicate shell pieces. Logbook Chica may be a production twin to Withered Chica. I suspect Susie can possess any Chica, since that's the mask she was given. A similar trait applies to the other mask-wearing ghosts. And I also don't believe the whole MoltenMCI theory. The Funtimes contain remnant from their own victims, not the MCI. By the time FFPS takes place, there are countless victims now possessing animatronics scattered around the area and Henry has to Catch Em All. It's more than just the 7 or 8 known victims.
Yeah, logbook Chica is a real strange case. It's kind of disappointing the only question that Scott was asked about FNAF 6 was just about the minimal teasing. It really does feel like Scott stitched the 5 kittens worth of ideas into one coffin to release the game. I'd love to know what happened with the development of this game besides the intentional lack of build up. With Logbook Chica specifically, there's this big question of how? Her whole animatronic body was completely torn apart to the point her spirit was able to leave it and help trap William in the safe room. Even if she didn't actually move on but the other spirits did, how on earth would she get her old body back? Did she just do a GLADOS and just pull her body parts back like magnets through science magic? The other characters in this game who have survived anything close to this kind of fate, have had either a new suit or otherwise completely reconstructed themselves. This design change, with the possibly redesigned endoskeleton, is closer to the glamrocks going from security breach to ruin really than the scraps. In general it's fairly clear, to me at least, the game's trying to incorporate and clarify a few of the consistencies between the books and games continuity, you know with Henry being the Cassete Man and everything (Side Note: I do kind of wish the reveal that he was Henry was held off somehow because that name really should've lasted longer than it did.) so the lorekeeper ending, having the graves with the 3 matching names and Fruity Maze does make sense.
So, to my knowledge, Cassidy's name was hidden in the Logbook word search through a series of random numbers as coordinates, with the it's mes a lean towards Golden Freddy. (And was the first thing to stump Matpat 6 years ago) With people aligning 6's gravestones to 3's bad ending heads, both the grass one and Bonnie are furthest right which may explain that move in TFC. Also despite that brunette pic from the graphic novel you use for Cassidy, the original release said she had black hair, hence many uses the cake Puppet page as reference. But then, the Susie in Coming Home was said to have brown eyes and hair, whereas the Ultimate Guide illustration has her blonde. And of course there's Into the Pit with 'half a dozen kids', we believe it's 6 (graphic novel also doing 6), but the new game sets 5. (Still kinda bummed the Withered designs aren't shown for it) From what I heard about Frights 2nd comic release, the artists kinda just do their own thing. Feels like questionable quality control compared to something like Gravity Falls books.
Notably, Scott was running out of space when it came to the animations of Pizza Sim. This is why it didn't have a custom night. He didn't have space for it. (Presumably he was going to include the actual simulator animatronics which is why they take up so much of UCN's roster.) The office jumpscares look so horrible because of the lack of space. Clickteam as an engine is really bad at animation and can't hold many high resolution images. Everything running on prerendered frames means that there's not much you can actually implement. (This is why FNaF as a series generally limits the amount of animation present as well.)
Freddy Fazbear: What the heck happened to Chica? Captain Foxy the Fox: Oof, she got roasted. Bonnie the Rabbit: Really Foxy? Captain Foxy the Fox: Lol(Bit) SpringBonnie: Well…I don’t know. I guess we can, put her back togetherrrre. Freddy Fazbear: Hush boi, we’ll just throw her out. Bonnie the Rabbit: Wow Freddy, what a great leader. Freddy Fazbear: Indeed Captain Foxy the Fox: You’d make a better captain than me. You may take my hat. Freddy Fazbear: Ahh, thank you Foxy, I’ll give you my hat. Captain Foxy the Fox: No thanks, it looks crappy. Freddy Fazbear: Well screw yours too *bites a chunck of the hat* Captain Foxy the Fox: Give me your hat, I’ll make us even. Freddy Fazbear: Here Captain Foxy the Fox: *Bites Freddy’s hat* Bonnie the Rabbit: Weren’t we gonna throw out Chica or something? Freddy Fazbear: Oh yeah *throws Chica through a window*
6:24 yeah I never thought Molten MCI was really convincing mainly because it logistically makes no sense. So William gos to Freddy’s, scraps the OG band, goes to the sister location to inject the Funtimes with the remnant, only to go back to Freddy’s to get springlocked? Yeah, makes perfect sense.
@@Dr_Damon_1111 is that explicitly in the game somewhere or are you just say he could have happened. I’m sorry but the follow me mini game doesn’t show what you’re say from what I remember. He scraps them and then gets chased into the spring lock suit. It just seems it was all happened at the same time, or at least that’s how it’s presented.
@@CheshireCatMysticthe fact that the follow me minigames are spread out for each night could also be an indication that it’s on separate occasions, right?
@@melsxteaxcake ok I’ll give you that it COULD be, but I honestly feel that it’s still odd to go back and forth scraping one at a time. But mostly why go back after scraping the last one? He would have already had gotten most of the parts and gotten the a lot of remnant by then so why go back for a few extra pieces. Ultimately I just don’t think there’s enough evidence to suggest molten MCI is accurate.
@@CheshireCatMystic well, to be fair in the minigames we never got to play as golden freddy right? perhaps GF was the last one he needed to scrap but upon doing so or before he could scrap golden freddy, the souls group up. I don’t believe what I wrote myself but I’m just throwing that out there in case someone finds this and latches on to it to make a bigger theory. Edit: if we DO play as golden freddy that’s my bad my memory is fuzzy on the follow me minigame, I only remember the first 4 cast and on the 5th night i can only imagine it’s the souls..does 6th night count??
if i had to guess why Chica was cut.. it was because of FNAF 3. whiles the concept of Chica (or one of the original 4) returning is a amazing idea and should've been executed.. it couldn't have been.. why? because she was already dismantled, broken, torn apart.. unless another Chica of the same fnaf 1 model was made (which's unlikely given teh state of fazebear entertainment in that part of the story) chica had no reason to show back up in anything more than a box of parts that William A. cut down. from there we see her head & half beak in fazbear frights, and subsequently.. burnt. although i suspect that, if they were pondering about including her, they changed her design from the logbook to more accurately represent how she would look in the game sense.. what with the upper half of her beak staying instead of the lower half, along with more of the limbs being cut off rather than.. seemingly melted
I mean ennard is 5 if you count bon bon Edit: according to this one UA-camr who went through the code of Pizzaria simulator, character #1 would unlock if you got all of the sponsorships
Hahah, yes. Susie was the first. She had seen everything. Though where would she fit in pizza sim? There would need to be an extra night or brought in before you started the first night. Or maybe she would always be there from the start “for parts”, so you wouldn’t play any night without at least one animatronic. …. Also lol, that last frame 😆.
I like to imagine that the amount of backstory susie gets is a meta way to make up for chica getting pushed aside in general, especially since she was entirely absent from sl
about the help wanted chicas, the first one was just a bug that was the result of a withered chica animation being applied to classic chica accidentally (which is why withered chica replaced her when she got removed) and the second one isn't actually unused, but the head and body are separate models and appear in different spots (the body appears in the section with the gears above the middle conveyor and the head is sitting against the wall on the left below that section)
It’s fair to assume that removing one animatronic would also help with game balance a bit. Since the animatronics behave so similarly anyway, having five of them probably made the game a bit too difficult.
Hear me out, what if scraptrap wanted to preserve himself, and went to the pizzarea, not to kill, but to upload himself safely, or maybe he was looking for the mimic for parts? Baby does say she wants to make him proud, but we dont hear any of this from will strangly, so what was his goal? Im shootin in the dark with this, have fun!
Considering how it appears Logbook Chica would've been the only one of the Classic gang to return, its pretty sad how we'd never get "scrap" designs of the other Classics. It would've been cool to see the whole gang one last time. At the very least, there are high quality models of "broken" versions of the Classic Animatronics (including logbook Chica), made by UFMP that are basically scrap models. They aren't official, but that doesn't stop them from looking amazing. So while Logbook Chica most likely will never be in another piece of official FNAF media ever again, at least she has a really high quality model, even if it is unofficial.
logbook chica ODDLY looks similar to ignited bonnie. considering shes the only one with that type of design,i imagine shes like golden freddy. she was the first.. i figure MOST of the animatronics have moved on, including her 3 band mates. but she cant move on, though she cant move, shes waiting to make her own move against Afton. yet she doesn’t even know where he is now. i hope we get to see more of her.not a main game but i could see a short film or book of her story.
Is it just me or do a lot of female characters in this series get the short end of the stick? Chica... Vanessa/Vanny... Circus Baby... I'm sensing a pattern here, and I don't like it.
I love Chica. She always deserves more attention. She is in an odd place where we have more information and appearances of her than some other animatronics but not really anything big or lore relevant. Enough to keep us wanting, but not enough to satisfy.
My comment dissapeared. m1 is tied to the ads. Probably Lolbit at one point, that mechanic got cut and saved for UCN. Or it could be a placeholder for the ad structure and I misread it... Opps. Sorry if so. Logbook Chica is interesting, but imo probably a book teaser. LadyFiszi is the one that illustrated the Logbook, and was planned to have illustrated Frights iirc.... But bad things came out. Logbook Chica was never used because it is off model. It has the shell of FNaF 1 Chica and an Endo 02. Which could never happen. That said, it is a net loss to FFPS that a Scrap Chica wasn't in the roster. A Salvage based on the Logbook design would have been fire.
This is a super cool theory! I enjoyed listening and it does help tie things up. And if Chica was there, we’d have one animatronic from each fnaf game before(excluding 4) returning.
IT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE THAT SUSIE SHOULDVE BEEN TOYSHK. Like don’t get me wrong this is a hottake but... It would make sense if she was. •She actually has a character.
Just wanna point this out, cause i just think it's funny: The thumbnail looks like Suzy's arguing with Chica about the logbook chica design, And Chica just looking at her, and speaking in such a deadpan reaction and saying: "Yeah. Okay. Uh huh.😐" Like, she's seen this so many times, it doesn't even phase her anymore 😂 And Suzys pissed, cause she's trying to get some kind of reaction out of her!!!😂
I would’ve loved if Logbook Chica was in FNAF PS & had a more similar design to withered chica, IMO. One of the most terrifying designs in the series in my opinion & the withereds are literally THE vent animatronics!! Like if she looked like withered chica, but even MORE in disarray it would’ve been terrifying to see that thing hulking through the vents. Especially since I feel like Scrap Baby is the only one who tries to look… you know…. Scary. The rest just look goofy or off-putting. A GIGANTIC hulking EVEN MORE WITHERED version of withered chica would’ve literally made me shit my pants.
"how many children are in golden freddy" i will stand by the fact that it is ONE and ONE ALONE and it is the CRYING CHILD (fnaf 4) cassidy in golden freddy ONLY became a thing in UCN and was a SHITTY retcon
That final picture is so good. It really does feel like that sometimes. Chica is outside. I'll get me matches. Afton is back. I'll get me matches. A new Freddy's opened up. I'll get me matches. NotRealName posted a new video. I'll get me snacks. There's some more dead kids. I'll get me matches.
If UCN is to be believed, that chica *saw* everything that would explain Logbook Chica's missing eyes. Shes been around for so long she lost sight of what really happened, being blinded by the rage which is why shes also the one missing child we get so much for!
I apologize, I am back. But I wanna throw this out there because MoltenMCI is something I just personally really dislike. I think the MCI came in through the Rockstars. They were so important at one point in the story that they got the title card art. I think Scott just kinda forgor in favour of things he found more visually interesting and so never put any extra emphasis on the connection. Or they could have even been tracked in through Spingtrap, extra remnent he injected into himself at some point to becomed god. (But I personally think he used the DCI for that and that is why he carries around Phantoms. Also William is a remnant junkie change my mind.) Order of events and why I think this- Canon FNaF 3 bad ending and "It burns!"> Henry buys the masks seen at the The End at auction> Henry fixes up the old animatronics into the Rockstars, and slowly figures out what is really going on about 30-40 years too late> Pizza Sim Candy Cadet's stories are about three different events and star three people. Henry, Micheal, and Charlie. So I assume the 5 becoming 1 are three different instances of this happening. Haunting causes the same events to happen in a loop in the FNaF universe. I also think GF (so one or two souls depending on what source you follow, honestly idk either. BV in this case, at the least.) came in with Mike and is keeping him alive post scup. Very TSE. But makes the logbook make some sense in universe. (Mike draws Nightmare Fredbear, and there is no way he should have seen him unless some memory sharing is going on.) Plus it would be a great end to the brothers' arc. Forgiveness and cooperation. Again, 100% my take. There are absolutely some leaps in logic here. But it just makes for a much more satisfying story imo. Less threads left dangling.
Damn! We almost got a lore relevant chica! We have a lore relevant freddy (golden), bonnie (springtrap), and foxy (mangle, if it’s to believed they caused the bite). Still no important chica : (
I havent seen anyone mention this, but before fnaf 6 came out, scott released behind the scenes images of the first game for the anniversary. Each image had somthing hidden in the background, specifically the scrap animatronics. In one of the images, there is a weird chica looking head hiding behind the employee only door in parts and service. I have speculated chica was a cut character for years now, but i havent seen anyone talk about it until you did.
i always thought logbook chica was supposed to be help wanted's fix chica minigame like, the blacklight version of the minigames was originally supposed to be with more broken animatronics but it ended up being cut for budget/time reasons
After watching your pizzeria simulator perfect final or flop video you pretty much spit out the reason why William should’ve been glitchtrap and burntrap because Henry’s speech may have been awesome but it wasn’t truly deserved yet so yeah
It makes sense. Scrap Baby was the first character we see in FFPS, yet we end up doing an actual salvage on her later. So maybe this was supposed to be a Chica reveal.
This is going to be a weird comparison. But in a lot of ways, FNAF feels like it has a similar problem to when Kinoko Nasu writes the Fate series. It feels like internal consistency isn't a high priority and instead, decisions are made by whatever feels cool/right in the moment. Case in point, the timeline fuckery that HW2 caused
I feel like having scrap chika would make a couple issues. The first is how scrap chika got in, the point is that you have to willingly risk the animatronics entering through the interview process, which is designed to happen at the end of nights. It works a lot better at the end of nights as well as it's thr scariest part of the game. Additionally, I think it'd mess with the story a bit as the missing children's souls are meat to be free as of Fnaf 3
just imagined scott getting rid of logbook chica simply bc the final night would be too hard and im gonna believe that because its funny
Lore aside, i think its really cool that you come to the comments and actually discuss people's theories and ideas with them
I honestly wish Lefty was a Foxy suit and Scrap Chica was in the game so we had variations of the original 4. It could clear up confusion over the MoltenMCI theory and maybe explain why Funtime Chica seems to not be a danger to kids like the others. Maybe it’s because we saw the suits burn in FNAF 3 she wasn’t included to stop confusion but maybe whatever spirit in Golden Freddy put Susie’s spirit back together while the other 3 got taken to the bunker? It would line up with the amount of animatronics in Molten Freddy (cuz apparently Bon Bon doesn’t count as a Funtime for some reason despite having his own mind) Idk it just kinda sucks that we got 2 games in a row with no Chica and it was weird there were animatronics from every previous game except for the first and two were from SL. Chica was always my favorite and I’m glad Security Breach at least gave her a bigger role but really I wonder what more could’ve been for her
The fact that we've gotten to a point where people have to say "If UCN is to be trusted" shows just how much of a tangled mess the lore is at this point.
In your opinion and yes it can be trusted
@@SuperSonicbros4 Nah, Fam. Save Him was retconned to a girl. The trust is broken. XD
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 while yes, okay
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Nah Save him is actually telling Cassie to save Gregory the mimic has been here the whole time Kappa
Dynamic storytelling in action
Ruined Chica: You’re weak
Logbook Chica: I’m you
in reality:
ruined chica: EAAAAAEHAUEHAUHERASHRAEHREAHURHEARHAEHREA
Logbook chica: wAERHASURHEWREHAKRHEJSHBGFSUFEASIFBEAEWQEAEAQQ
Every time someone asks, the puppet puts another child in Golden Freddy.
Ok but who is it
@@TheGayestAspenaaaaaaand another kid for golden freddy.
@@swayzeetheking not enough kids for golden freddy
@@TheGayestAspenIt’s you
@@PhoenixMerlyn69 Yay! Im a sacrifice!
I don't like how fnaf 3's good ending's canonity gets disproven by theories and the lore itself.
Fr that ending was so meaningful when it first came out. The fact that they've basically retconned it to be retroactively meaningless is really disappointing
The Fnaf 3 happiest's minigame was also retconned.
I mean... it's a horror story and a tragedy. Whenever there's multiple endings, you can more or less count on the good one being the non-canon one.
Scott said which ending of fnaf 3 was canon had a complicated answer
@@jpcsdutra
The thing is that it was presented as the definitive ending to the series, (IIRC) it was supposed to be the final game. They don't feel "alternate" due to the difficulty and presentation. Maybe it's just how other games do it, but they feel like the true ending.
Pizzeria Simulator and Ultimate Custom Night have the exact same issue.
It always feels sour for any series, it retroactively makes the story weaker. I get why, a franchise has to continue, this is a problem for a lot of stuff out there.
It just makes it difficult to get invested, all that terror and sadness gets weaker the tenth time it happens y'know? And when the good things don't matter then, what's left?
Series that use disconnected stories do it best. When the tragedy ends in peace or despair, it sticks. That means it'll always stick with you, no matter what's next.
Logbook Chica is such a cool character I honestly really wish that she would make a game appearance
Also FNaF AR is shutting down.
We'll never get Lefty released in it :(
Imagine if the “Final Delivery” IS Lefty, that would be cool
Same but I don’t think logbook chica as a cool character but a creepy one
@@Some_random_Stickman I usually think creepy = cool. Like CatNap from Poppy Playtime. He's creepy (imo) so I think he's pretty cool
@@kitdoesstufflmao yeah I know people has different perspectives but I don’t consider creepy as cool because cool when something looks really cool that makes someone go “WOW” but creepy makes things heavily disturbing and I have been a horror fan a long long time and I’ve seen some stuff that you don’t want to know cause it’s really creepy
@@kitdoesstufflmao (also a year ago someone was shot here and I saw his dead body but the police quickly covered luckily the person who shot him was arrested I wasn’t that terrified when I saw his body because I’m use to seeing those stuff on UA-cam, old creepy pastas, classic horror movies yeah it’s disturbing)
Chica is one the most underutalize Character in the whole of Fnaf.
Besides toy chica
All of them other than Bonnie. Too many rabbits.
Scott Lucas: "Chica is the key to all of this"
@@Hex.A.DecimalFreddy and Bonnie have alot of versions. Chica and Foxy, we don't know much about.
such a baddie tho @@AlexBryant-bq4zu
Watching this had made me realise how little of the mci children we actually know, Susie has her story and the minigame, Jeremy has that one line from Comedy Bot in Security Breach, Gabriel and Fritz get nothing, and Cassidy is debatable
Gabriel MIGHT have the pizza party ending in help wanted
We're the size of the child and we end up stuffed in Freddy after all
Keep in mind I know it might be a theory but I don't think Jeremy Fitzgerald is casies father. Also, while I do believe cassies dad is in fact the person we play as in help wanted 2 and also one of the 4 bullies with the bonnie mask from fnaf 4. It's not Jeremy imo.
Well, Gabriel does get something-- in fact, he gets more than the other MCI kids (Cassidy excluded because atp we've no clue what the hell her role even is in the plot). He's all but confirmed to be the b-day boy of the MCI in Help Wanted-- he's the character we represent in the Pizza Party level and get who gets killed on his birthday by Glitchtrap (who obv represents Purple Guy) only to be stuffed in Freddy.
Gabriel, as Withered Freddy, is the protagonist of SAVETHEM in FNAF 2, which is, imo, the most wasted plotline in the whole series, because it actively shows Freddy Fazbear as an actual plot-relevant protagonist, only to never be mentioned again.
Finally, the very last Frights story (You're the Band) features Gabriel as the main antagonist and someone who wants "to save the others", meaning he has a sense of responsibility over the other MCI kids and is like their leader (that said, this too is completely trown out the window in the movie, where the Golden Freddy kid takes literally all the relevance from the other MCI kids)
Fun fact: in some fan circles, Logbook Chica is referred to as Furnace Chica.
It is so bizarre to me that Chica and the soul possessing her has so much information about her next to Charlie and the puppet and yet she's one of the most underrated characters
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this
no matter what variation she is, Chica always ends up drawing the short straw. it's a shame, because most of the chica variants happen to be my favorite animatronics. classic chica, toy chica, funtime chica, rockstar chica, and especially glamrock chica
I mean, Bonnie got the shorter straw in security breach
@@bestaround3323 he kinda didn't? He's literally one of the more popular characters of the game, despite being a broken carcass with no personality
Come to think of it, was Susie originally meant to be TOYSNHK but was changed? Since she was the first one William killed, William literally using her dead dog lure her to her death, and possibly logbook Chica being cut from pizza sim maybe that’s why but Scott changed it to Cassidy/Golden Freddy (and it’s also why we get a backstory on her specifically)
HW2 seems to imply now that she was the first one killed too. Before even Charlie. 🤷♀️
@My_pfp_beats_all_dog_breeds.perhaps she remained as a lost soul until ghost Charlie came around and figured they could posses the robots. 🤷♂️
@My_pfp_beats_all_dog_breeds. Technically it's off of death-order instead of "animatronic-possession" order
it took me so long to figure wtf toysnhk meant lol. also the "I was the first I have seen everything" line is so vague you can't really make any firm conclusions about what it means. It wouldn't surprise me if Scott didn't even know what it meant and just thought it would be cool to give Chica something special lol
@@Sparkling34how is it ‘so vague’… its literally just shes either the first kid murdered in the mci or shes the first kid to possess an animatronic out of the mci.
Could it be possible that the midnight motorist minigame was supposed to link to Susie as well, but the dialogue was changed after scrap chica was cut? It would give an explanation of the color swap, the grave and the confusing footprints... or I'm just crazy which is also fine.
Coming home but in game? Interesting.
But I think the grey couch potato says " *He* had a rough day" so the runner was a boy.
I don't this was quite it, but maybe close.
@Hex.A.Decimal so does that mean that maybe it could've been Fitz (Foxy) who ran away? It said he was running so maybe he ran to where he thought he'd be safe?
@@destinyread4198 I don't think so. I kind of wrote off MM a long time ago, though. It's too vague. If anything I think it probably has to do with the Vengeful Spirit. The OG 5 being lured and killed inside the Pizzeria, and whatever this one is being kidnapped and killed from their own home.
No Susie connections detected
@@Hex.A.Decimal "…but the dialogue was changed after scrap chica was cut?…"
Sure, just ignore that
Maybe Logbook Chica could've been a Scrapping Level tutorial, showing you how the mechanics work, and how to check for tells. She probably could've even replaced Scrap Baby at the opening bit.
Any new rendition of Classic Style Chica is a welcome addition in my book. Either way on a serious note I think that Chica shouldve had more of a send off considering the spirit inside "saw everything" plus the idea that the animatronic survived all those years too still seeing everything up until Pizza Sim. Persistence is that chickens best trait imo. Couldve been lore stuff and some minor dark humor too
I just want a Chica that doesn't have an overly sexualized design is that too much to ask??
For real life.
I guess you can say, the new design is a good addition to your LOGbook?
@@AFNAFworldfan *Metroid Prime Recording to Logbook voice*
Susie and Chica had to have been planned for something. Susie gets the most attention, she has a lot more humanisation compared to the rest of the kids, Chica is one of the few from the original cast to repeatedly come back. Why do they consider this character significant enough to constantly reference, yet not important enough to have a definitive answer for? They wanted to use her for something yet they chickened out for one reason or another. It's weird. What is it about Chica that makes her stand out? The creators to keep bringing her back only to not actually do anything with her.
Her story in the Fazbear Frights books is really good.
You could say she was scrapped in more ways than one
6:03 That's what I'm saying
MCI kids possess Withereds, Classics, Funtimes, Ennard, Molten Freddy, and now Blob.
What's next? The Mimic?
The kids memories are tied to the Remnant so they posses whatever has the bulk of said remnant. The theory has the Remnant move from the Withered/Classics to the Funtimes when Afton reclaims the older Endos of the original 5. Ennard, Moltern Freddy and the Blob are all made of the funtime animations which has said remnant from the Funtimes which was sourced from the original 5. It's really not that complicated
DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS!
@@theanOnyOmus heeeelp😭
@@thepainsight thanks a lot 🙏🏻
well uh, the classics literally ARE the withereds, and the funtimes literally are ennard AND molten freddy. the blob is still a mystery and its unknown who, if anyone, is possessing it. so really its just saying the MCI kids possessed 2 sets of animatronics at different times, which isnt that much of a stretch
You know, this is a decent point really, especially since Pizza Sim opens with the Scrap Baby repair that goes no where and is just kinda randomly repeated. Would've fit perfectly with Chica appearing instead in her place then being active from Night 1
It's a Shame Scott doesn't really do content updates to his games, as I am certain this would be a nice addition to Pizza Sim if balanced right lol
The Scrap Chica idea also fits in with Chica’s absence in Sister Location. Molten Freddy being Ennard would include Freddy, Bonnie (via BonBon) and Foxy.
I think we all know what was actually in the box at this point. An embarrassing photo of freddy at the Christmas party!
this is now my headcannon answer to the box, amazing
No, it was obviously Sammy, possessing the right leg toe of golden freddy
@@pipisochkaaaai thought he possesed the fnaf 2 celebrate posters toy freddys nose though
It's actually an embarrassing photo of William at a Christmas party which kickstarted the games events. The original mci kids saw it and he had to murder them to keep them silent.
@@brendanmuller7301 it's William in a bunny mask and a maid suit posing for Henry's brother, who was named Cassidy and was a midget, which is why he's put as a victim of Missing Children Incident, despite being an adult
5:34, you can also see Puppet ascending with the MCI kids, but we know Puppet is still active or else Lefty wouldn't need to exist
7:28, M1 are the Ads in Pizza Sim, they originally acted like a animatronic but could move faster & and the jumpscare was a popup, this was removed for a unknown reason being replaced with a timer & percentage system
I think m1 was Lolbit. An ad animatronic with said jumpscare structure.
@@Hex.A.Decimal Lolbit isn’t cannon until sometime after UCN
@@RaisinHook Yeah, that's when Lolbit finally appeared in the main franchise (and SL as an easter egg) but it is a FNaF World character so existed before even that.
I can't help but to assume, with how everything reads, that m1's original function was Lolbit and due to it being too difficult and thematically irrelevant it got cut and saved for UCN.
@@Hex.A.Decimal the FNAF World characters are different characters from the main ones (ie. Adventure Withered Bonnie is not Withered Bonnie), & Jack-O-Chica appeared in UCN so UCN has to take place sometime after the in-world FNAF Games where made (witch includes Sister Location Custom Nights)
How is M1 the ads? I don't see anything like that in the code, but maybe I'm missing something.
It would've been cool if Logbook Chica was used to lure in the Puppet originally. Charlie's whole "No soul left behind" approach would drive the puppet to try and find Chica, only to turn to the left and find a bear trap waiting for them. Would've fleshed out both characters a bit more.
Ngl I can’t wait for the Sammy Emily video
Me too because I have literally never heard of them!
I can’t wait for the 2 second long recap of his character
What would she even make the vid on? From what I remember he doesn’t do much in the books
Oh, you'd be surprised what I can drum up when I'm on a roll.
@@Master_Of_Machinesthe only reason I know of this man is because I like books (i am definitely not fucking insane)
I like the idea of logbook Chica being a possibly lost to time fnaf 6 aniamtorncis. Specially being one of the main from the scrap gang. Hell, I love logbook chica's design! Real cryptic gal.
But sadly, Fnaf 6 can't have shit in this world :(
(oh yeah Sammy Emily video lets gooooo!! I can't wait to hear rants abt him!!)
Logbook Chica? Ngl I never heard of this
Me either man.
Uncultured 😂
When I heard logbook Chica, I swear she meant the infamous dabbing Chica not going to lie.
the ennard vent repair chica does actually appear in that level! her body is seen above the center vent during the gear section and her head appears somewhere else i cant remember off the top of my head
Chica (withered or not) has litterally said 'I was the first, I have seen everything' which is probably the most info we have gotten around, at least, Chica. Then it is never really expanded upon.
Can u make a video on what ballora was saying in sl night 2? It just feels like everyone glanced over it
You know with susie having scrap chica and Charlie having lefty, I wonder if one of the remaining 3 where meant to have a massive story mini game like fruity maze or security puppet. Would this limit Down midnight motorist to one of the remaining 3 scraps?
the most popular midnight motorist theory is that orange guy is Afton, and..Afton is one of the scraps so it definitely checks out.
@@melsxteaxcake pluses the sl two had the website chat so they are technicly taken care of
@@Crystal-pro-2024 that’s right! woah
@@melsxteaxcake well now I'm convinced of mmafton
I remember when I first saw this pic of logbook chica when it was floating around the internet same time when the scrap baby teaser came out I was curious as to why chica would come back since at the time she was dismantled but I summed it up to this is wha she looked like after Afton broke the animatronics in the fnaf 3 mini games. It would’ve been interesting to see what the other members looked like after getting dismantled.
Logbook Chica would be PERFECT for FNAF 6 instrad of NOT having a deadly Chica instead.
noooooo u forgot logbook chica's small cameo in the faz fright story "what we found"
although L-chica does make a pretty good candidate for m1 and could explain why henry thinks he lured the mci in the building, the quote from insanity ending "I don't know how those tiny breaths of life came to inhabit those machines. But they will never find rest now. Not like this. I have to call them all back. All of them. Together in one place." implies that most of the mci should still be in the building
assuming molten mci wasn't true, under this theory, only L-chica would be in the building and the other potential mci spirits henry wanted to set free all unaccounted for, and it would be stranger lore wise to scrap logbook chica, since now chica isn't in the building anymore since henry didn't bring any of the mci back. of course there is still susie trapped in the fruity maze arcade, but that is optional which is strange since if its how henry gets to free susie, then it should fall under paragraph 4 and be a requirement to be burned
in ur video u also said molten mci would be strange if the good ending set the spirits free during fnaf 3, i think that is true sus, but that also is strange for susie since she should've also been freed, either:
-bad ending happened
-happiest day takes place after fnaf 6
-the mci are all gone and not in fnaf 6
i personally think m1 is just mike, i think most people think that logbook chica was just to tease her inclusion into faz frights but the dates would be pretty weird, honestly no idea myself, it seems she probably was intended to be used in the games but her inclusion makes less sense in the game timeline since:
-the illustration shows chica in an endo-02 model
-her head is really broken down missing the top beak but her head in fnaf 3 in the good or bad endings has the top beak but missing the bottom beak
-phone dude couldn't find any of the animatronics except springtrap so L-chica must've been adventuring or something
I read What We Found and I don't think it was Logbook Chica. I think it was just Phantom Chica/some random broken Chica.
According to HW2, Chica died first, then the rest, *then Charlie.*
Whatever Henry meant, we know Charlie was the *last* to die before Elizabeth. Either he meant something else, or he was wrong.
If we're going to take so much from the books as well, we also have to accept that the MCI happened in 1985, so the canon order is CC, MCI, Charlie, then Elizabeth.
A more interesting, perhaps more important, note is that Henry implies he helped William, and the suggestions that he had something to do with things like the Scooper and the Funtimes. After all, we do find the scooper down beneath the Pizza Sim location, and he *had those designs.* If Henry built that, why? More importantly, why is it that the games and the books keep suggesting Henry built Baby? *Did he help build them? Did he know?*
I keep seeing suggestions that Henry was *not so innocent* and that if he wasn't just complicit, he might've been an *accomplice.*
HW2 makes a sizeable plothole when it comes to continuity, because suddenly dates are gonna be all sorts of screwy.
And we can't take from the books, because they say Charlie died in 83.
I'm gonna say that there might be a changeup of the line of succession for future plot purposes.
...Or there's two puppets, lol.
@@Dr_Damon_1111 If your entire basis is the idea that "Henry said so" when we've been told multiple times after that that Susie died first, then I'll simply inform you that you are incorrect and we'll move right along.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 I was more referring to the *6 bodies* we see in 1985 in ITP, rather than the absurdities of the Novels, in which I don't recall a puppet and, well, the fact Henry is *dead as fuck* without burning a certain rabbit corpse. However, even in the novels we are told outright the date is still 1985, and with Charlie being placed among the victims now by the most recent reveal, it's hardly a stretch to say that we have a date, an order, and a confirmation
Especially given the additional focus ITP is getting with the next title focusing on it, and the inclusion of the puppet as a victim of the MCI, namely, the last victim, I don't see any version of the timeline that requires Charlie to die first, unless you are absurdly insistent on the line *"Not until I undo what he has done and heal this wound - a wound first inflicted on me, but then one that I let bleed out to cause all of this."* to exclusively mean his child's death, and not be relating to the reveal in that sentence that he knew William's actions and chose not to hold him accountable until now. The key phrase being "that I let bleed out" not "first inflicted on me" and suggesting more his awareness than his victimhood.
All of that, and the fact we're told repeatedly that Susie was his first victim, not Charlie, and the level of importance placed on her, which you yourself brought up. Suggesting that Henry's vague line somehow wins out over a blatant *"I Was The First, I Have Seen Everything"* which leaves nothing to interpretation. Discarding one and clinging to the other is just cherry picking evidence to fit a predetermined outcome.
@@Dr_Damon_1111 I'm going to go on a limb and say you weren't paying attention to the graveyard in HW2, but also, you did, you just did the thing, you went out of your way to state that one vague piece of evidence fully supported what you had to say, and that the other was somehow not evidence because, for some reason, you have already decided your opinion is right with no evidence.
As I've stated, Henry never says Charlie died first, that's fan interpretation. He says he was inflicted with a wound that he let spill out. As far as we know he could've been the first to learn of his child's death.
We've been told by modern sources that Susie predates Charlie. We've been told repeatedly the date 1985. We've been told multiple times that Charlie was part of the MCI.
At this point, it's not really up to be refuted.
But didn't Charlie die in 1983? While the rest in 1985?
Sorry mb i used her for my latest recipe of deep fried chicken breast
Wait you can cook Mr.Watterson? Did it taste good?
I told you to use the gator! D8
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 I'm allergic to green
I like this idea. This would have actually been a more logical explanation for what happened to the MCI kids than Molten MCI or Rockstar MCI ever could be.
Yes, the latter does exist and it makes even less sense than Molten MCI, because why would anyone take the broken, demolished by Afton, probably burned in Fazbear's Frights parts of the FNAF 1 animatronics and build the Rockstar animatronics out of them?
The fact that a FNAF book teased the next game, but the animatronic wasn’t in it shows when the FNAF lore knows the right time to do a surprising twist.
Huh? You think misleading your fans to expect something cool that never happens is a good thing?
@@caldercockatoo2234 It was probably sarcasm lol
I think the Phantom would be cooler if they looked more like Logbook Chica
I like your profile picture
Love to see Scrap Chica getting some attention, I always thought it was tragically poetic that she be lost to history but it’s nice to see a spotlight being put on her
Poor chica, always cast aside for some bear or rabbit
The Fazbear Frights book “What We Found” has a brief cameo of a weird, destroyed Chica as a hallucination that the main character has. It’s possible that was also an allusion to Logbook Chica.
Yeah, I saw that. But I read it as a reference to Phantom/Classic. There wasn't really any indication that it was Logbook Chica except 'broken Chica'.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 that’s true, I always say it as a Phantom Chica cameo but the wiki said otherwise so I thought it was worth bringing up
You always upload when I need you the most, you're the best
I just finished an exhausting assignment in the last minute and as I was getting comfy this video popped up on my home page so thank you!
Considering the intro to the game with Scrapbaby, she could’ve been in night 1, instead of being introduced and only showing up at night 3 which makes no sense. If I was to order the nights the salvages would go: night 1 scrapbaby, night 2 lefty, nighty 3 molten, night 4 Afton, which would leave 1 final night salvaging Chica
I do feel like the concept of bringing back the missing children to fnaf 6 cut for time
And my personal hot takes there wasn’t part of the video of yours the concept all the original MC and crying child possess golden Freddy/Fred bear animatronic become the fifth animatronic instead of that weird wooden paper pal standing
How terrible fnaf 6 is I think that Chica/Susie dodge bullet right there
Great vid as always, I actually never heard of that character before, pretty nice to leard new stuff like that!
Also, to be fair, I'd say it makes sense to not have her included in the game, because it would just be odd to have her return.
She would be in Fnaf 6, but as the only missing children remaining? And I'm not even saying "why her instead of Freddy, Bonnie or Foxy", but "why would a singular missing children would be in the game instead of all 5 of them?
If they all moved on in the Happiest day minigame before Fnaf 6, then not a single one of them is supposed to be here in Fnaf 6.
If them moving on only happens at the end of Fnaf 6, then they would ALL be supposed to be in Fnaf 6.
For both cases, isolating one of the missing children from the others just wouldn't make sense. Mayyyybe Cassidy would get a pass, but Susie wouldn't.
I feel like it seemed that Chica needed to be in fnaf 6 because of the mystery of her absence in SL, or Scott thought she needed to be. Honestly, logbook Chica and fruity maze are implications that Suzie was originally supposed to be a ringleader type character and possibly the vengeful spirit which would be later confirmed in UCN, but I think it gave way to much focus on the character and especially with the "I was the first" stichk and a vengeful nature would have had to force a cannon timeline of the deaths which would obviously be messy as it would mean for Suzie to be as vengeful as she is she would have had to die probably before 1983 to preceed both the crying child and Charlie in order to make her seem more independent and not needing Charlie to give her the gift of life, which would have been a solid story however a shitstorm of a mess since Chica wasn't given much importance or leadership implications up until mid-series with the very, VERY obscure "Chica's party world" text. I believe that this storyline was retconned as there wasn't proper buildup and it was more sensible to give the spotlight in UCN to the more menacing golden Freddy. BTW, I'd never heard of logbook/scrap Chica up until this video
Don't forget, the FNAF1 animatronics had plenty of duplicate shell pieces. Logbook Chica may be a production twin to Withered Chica. I suspect Susie can possess any Chica, since that's the mask she was given. A similar trait applies to the other mask-wearing ghosts. And I also don't believe the whole MoltenMCI theory. The Funtimes contain remnant from their own victims, not the MCI. By the time FFPS takes place, there are countless victims now possessing animatronics scattered around the area and Henry has to Catch Em All. It's more than just the 7 or 8 known victims.
Yeah, logbook Chica is a real strange case. It's kind of disappointing the only question that Scott was asked about FNAF 6 was just about the minimal teasing. It really does feel like Scott stitched the 5 kittens worth of ideas into one coffin to release the game. I'd love to know what happened with the development of this game besides the intentional lack of build up. With Logbook Chica specifically, there's this big question of how? Her whole animatronic body was completely torn apart to the point her spirit was able to leave it and help trap William in the safe room. Even if she didn't actually move on but the other spirits did, how on earth would she get her old body back? Did she just do a GLADOS and just pull her body parts back like magnets through science magic? The other characters in this game who have survived anything close to this kind of fate, have had either a new suit or otherwise completely reconstructed themselves. This design change, with the possibly redesigned endoskeleton, is closer to the glamrocks going from security breach to ruin really than the scraps.
In general it's fairly clear, to me at least, the game's trying to incorporate and clarify a few of the consistencies between the books and games continuity, you know with Henry being the Cassete Man and everything (Side Note: I do kind of wish the reveal that he was Henry was held off somehow because that name really should've lasted longer than it did.) so the lorekeeper ending, having the graves with the 3 matching names and Fruity Maze does make sense.
So, to my knowledge, Cassidy's name was hidden in the Logbook word search through a series of random numbers as coordinates, with the it's mes a lean towards Golden Freddy. (And was the first thing to stump Matpat 6 years ago) With people aligning 6's gravestones to 3's bad ending heads, both the grass one and Bonnie are furthest right which may explain that move in TFC. Also despite that brunette pic from the graphic novel you use for Cassidy, the original release said she had black hair, hence many uses the cake Puppet page as reference. But then, the Susie in Coming Home was said to have brown eyes and hair, whereas the Ultimate Guide illustration has her blonde. And of course there's Into the Pit with 'half a dozen kids', we believe it's 6 (graphic novel also doing 6), but the new game sets 5. (Still kinda bummed the Withered designs aren't shown for it) From what I heard about Frights 2nd comic release, the artists kinda just do their own thing. Feels like questionable quality control compared to something like Gravity Falls books.
logbook chica DABBING is the only think that came up with my mind 🤣🤣🤣
Logbook chica would’ve been a sick AR skin
Notably, Scott was running out of space when it came to the animations of Pizza Sim. This is why it didn't have a custom night. He didn't have space for it. (Presumably he was going to include the actual simulator animatronics which is why they take up so much of UCN's roster.) The office jumpscares look so horrible because of the lack of space. Clickteam as an engine is really bad at animation and can't hold many high resolution images. Everything running on prerendered frames means that there's not much you can actually implement. (This is why FNaF as a series generally limits the amount of animation present as well.)
Freddy Fazbear:
What the heck happened to Chica?
Captain Foxy the Fox:
Oof, she got roasted.
Bonnie the Rabbit:
Really Foxy?
Captain Foxy the Fox:
Lol(Bit)
SpringBonnie:
Well…I don’t know.
I guess we can, put her back togetherrrre.
Freddy Fazbear:
Hush boi, we’ll just throw her out.
Bonnie the Rabbit:
Wow Freddy, what a great leader.
Freddy Fazbear:
Indeed
Captain Foxy the Fox:
You’d make a better captain than me.
You may take my hat.
Freddy Fazbear:
Ahh, thank you Foxy, I’ll give you my hat.
Captain Foxy the Fox:
No thanks, it looks crappy.
Freddy Fazbear:
Well screw yours too *bites a chunck of the hat*
Captain Foxy the Fox:
Give me your hat, I’ll make us even.
Freddy Fazbear:
Here
Captain Foxy the Fox:
*Bites Freddy’s hat*
Bonnie the Rabbit:
Weren’t we gonna throw out Chica or something?
Freddy Fazbear:
Oh yeah *throws Chica through a window*
6:24 yeah I never thought Molten MCI was really convincing mainly because it logistically makes no sense. So William gos to Freddy’s, scraps the OG band, goes to the sister location to inject the Funtimes with the remnant, only to go back to Freddy’s to get springlocked? Yeah, makes perfect sense.
@@Dr_Damon_1111 is that explicitly in the game somewhere or are you just say he could have happened. I’m sorry but the follow me mini game doesn’t show what you’re say from what I remember. He scraps them and then gets chased into the spring lock suit. It just seems it was all happened at the same time, or at least that’s how it’s presented.
@@CheshireCatMysticthe fact that the follow me minigames are spread out for each night could also be an indication that it’s on separate occasions, right?
@@melsxteaxcake ok I’ll give you that it COULD be, but I honestly feel that it’s still odd to go back and forth scraping one at a time. But mostly why go back after scraping the last one? He would have already had gotten most of the parts and gotten the a lot of remnant by then so why go back for a few extra pieces. Ultimately I just don’t think there’s enough evidence to suggest molten MCI is accurate.
Yes Afton returns. Either for the parts he left behind or for his costume since that’s important for controlling the spirits.
@@CheshireCatMystic well, to be fair in the minigames we never got to play as golden freddy right? perhaps GF was the last one he needed to scrap but upon doing so or before he could scrap golden freddy, the souls group up. I don’t believe what I wrote myself but I’m just throwing that out there in case someone finds this and latches on to it to make a bigger theory.
Edit: if we DO play as golden freddy that’s my bad my memory is fuzzy on the follow me minigame, I only remember the first 4 cast and on the 5th night i can only imagine it’s the souls..does 6th night count??
if i had to guess why Chica was cut.. it was because of FNAF 3. whiles the concept of Chica (or one of the original 4) returning is a amazing idea and should've been executed.. it couldn't have been.. why? because she was already dismantled, broken, torn apart.. unless another Chica of the same fnaf 1 model was made (which's unlikely given teh state of fazebear entertainment in that part of the story) chica had no reason to show back up in anything more than a box of parts that William A. cut down. from there we see her head & half beak in fazbear frights, and subsequently.. burnt. although i suspect that, if they were pondering about including her, they changed her design from the logbook to more accurately represent how she would look in the game sense.. what with the upper half of her beak staying instead of the lower half, along with more of the limbs being cut off rather than.. seemingly melted
I mean ennard is 5 if you count bon bon
Edit: according to this one UA-camr who went through the code of Pizzaria simulator, character #1 would unlock if you got all of the sponsorships
Hahah, yes. Susie was the first. She had seen everything.
Though where would she fit in pizza sim? There would need to be an extra night or brought in before you started the first night.
Or maybe she would always be there from the start “for parts”, so you wouldn’t play any night without at least one animatronic.
…. Also lol, that last frame 😆.
I like to imagine that the amount of backstory susie gets is a meta way to make up for chica getting pushed aside in general, especially since she was entirely absent from sl
Oh hi fresh upload in my suggestion box, how nice to see you 🐥
about the help wanted chicas, the first one was just a bug that was the result of a withered chica animation being applied to classic chica accidentally (which is why withered chica replaced her when she got removed) and the second one isn't actually unused, but the head and body are separate models and appear in different spots (the body appears in the section with the gears above the middle conveyor and the head is sitting against the wall on the left below that section)
It’s fair to assume that removing one animatronic would also help with game balance a bit. Since the animatronics behave so similarly anyway, having five of them probably made the game a bit too difficult.
Havent heard of em, but im sure itll be a great vid as always. Edit: yep it was.
When I was a kid, I'd always imagined that Scott would just drop a 6 page long Reddit post explaining all the lore when the series ended
Hear me out, what if scraptrap wanted to preserve himself, and went to the pizzarea, not to kill, but to upload himself safely, or maybe he was looking for the mimic for parts?
Baby does say she wants to make him proud, but we dont hear any of this from will strangly, so what was his goal? Im shootin in the dark with this, have fun!
Considering how it appears Logbook Chica would've been the only one of the Classic gang to return, its pretty sad how we'd never get "scrap" designs of the other Classics. It would've been cool to see the whole gang one last time.
At the very least, there are high quality models of "broken" versions of the Classic Animatronics (including logbook Chica), made by UFMP that are basically scrap models. They aren't official, but that doesn't stop them from looking amazing.
So while Logbook Chica most likely will never be in another piece of official FNAF media ever again, at least she has a really high quality model, even if it is unofficial.
logbook chica ODDLY looks similar to ignited bonnie. considering shes the only one with that type of design,i imagine shes like golden freddy. she was the first.. i figure MOST of the animatronics have moved on, including her 3 band mates. but she cant move on, though she cant move, shes waiting to make her own move against Afton. yet she doesn’t even know where he is now. i hope we get to see more of her.not a main game but i could see a short film or book of her story.
Why do you sound like the perfect voice for Chica?!
I want there to be a version of fnaf 6, that’s similar to fnaf sister location, with log book chica in it.
Idk if this is said anywhere but Chica could have been the character in the opening of the REAL fnaf 6 after the fake minigame to throw the player off
I knew absolutely nothing about this, but ur explanation makes total sense n I completely agree.
Is it just me or do a lot of female characters in this series get the short end of the stick? Chica... Vanessa/Vanny... Circus Baby... I'm sensing a pattern here, and I don't like it.
I love Chica. She always deserves more attention. She is in an odd place where we have more information and appearances of her than some other animatronics but not really anything big or lore relevant. Enough to keep us wanting, but not enough to satisfy.
Suzy is precious definitely my favourite human character
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m1 is tied to the ads. Probably Lolbit at one point, that mechanic got cut and saved for UCN.
Or it could be a placeholder for the ad structure and I misread it... Opps. Sorry if so.
Logbook Chica is interesting, but imo probably a book teaser. LadyFiszi is the one that illustrated the Logbook, and was planned to have illustrated Frights iirc.... But bad things came out.
Logbook Chica was never used because it is off model. It has the shell of FNaF 1 Chica and an Endo 02. Which could never happen.
That said, it is a net loss to FFPS that a Scrap Chica wasn't in the roster. A Salvage based on the Logbook design would have been fire.
It disappeared? O.o That's weird, because I remember replying to it.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 mobile YT is wild lately. I expect it to NOT work.
right before watching this i got a easter ad and it involved someone in a rabbit suit
This is a super cool theory! I enjoyed listening and it does help tie things up. And if Chica was there, we’d have one animatronic from each fnaf game before(excluding 4) returning.
my fnaf brainrot is so immense that i knew instantly who this character is
IT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE THAT SUSIE SHOULDVE BEEN TOYSHK.
Like don’t get me wrong this is a hottake but... It would make sense if she was.
•She actually has a character.
Never been this early, and idk abut Logbook Chica, imma have some fun :D
Is she a spring-lock?
Genuinely hate how Chica, the FIRST one is kinda nobody, when some random dork in the Yellow suit is THE IMPORTANT ONE
Just wanna point this out, cause i just think it's funny:
The thumbnail looks like Suzy's arguing with Chica about the logbook chica design,
And Chica just looking at her, and speaking in such a deadpan reaction and saying: "Yeah. Okay. Uh huh.😐"
Like, she's seen this so many times, it doesn't even phase her anymore 😂
And Suzys pissed, cause she's trying to get some kind of reaction out of her!!!😂
I would’ve loved if Logbook Chica was in FNAF PS & had a more similar design to withered chica, IMO. One of the most terrifying designs in the series in my opinion & the withereds are literally THE vent animatronics!! Like if she looked like withered chica, but even MORE in disarray it would’ve been terrifying to see that thing hulking through the vents. Especially since I feel like Scrap Baby is the only one who tries to look… you know…. Scary. The rest just look goofy or off-putting. A GIGANTIC hulking EVEN MORE WITHERED version of withered chica would’ve literally made me shit my pants.
Love this. Chika being the 1st on the 1st night of the next game makes sense
"how many children are in golden freddy"
i will stand by the fact that it is ONE and ONE ALONE and it is the CRYING CHILD (fnaf 4)
cassidy in golden freddy ONLY became a thing in UCN and was a SHITTY retcon
That final picture is so good. It really does feel like that sometimes.
Chica is outside. I'll get me matches.
Afton is back. I'll get me matches.
A new Freddy's opened up. I'll get me matches.
NotRealName posted a new video. I'll get me snacks.
There's some more dead kids. I'll get me matches.
If UCN is to be believed, that chica *saw* everything that would explain Logbook Chica's missing eyes. Shes been around for so long she lost sight of what really happened, being blinded by the rage which is why shes also the one missing child we get so much for!
I apologize, I am back. But I wanna throw this out there because MoltenMCI is something I just personally really dislike.
I think the MCI came in through the Rockstars. They were so important at one point in the story that they got the title card art. I think Scott just kinda forgor in favour of things he found more visually interesting and so never put any extra emphasis on the connection.
Or they could have even been tracked in through Spingtrap, extra remnent he injected into himself at some point to becomed god. (But I personally think he used the DCI for that and that is why he carries around Phantoms. Also William is a remnant junkie change my mind.)
Order of events and why I think this-
Canon FNaF 3 bad ending and "It burns!">
Henry buys the masks seen at the The End at auction>
Henry fixes up the old animatronics into the Rockstars, and slowly figures out what is really going on about 30-40 years too late>
Pizza Sim
Candy Cadet's stories are about three different events and star three people. Henry, Micheal, and Charlie. So I assume the 5 becoming 1 are three different instances of this happening.
Haunting causes the same events to happen in a loop in the FNaF universe.
I also think GF (so one or two souls depending on what source you follow, honestly idk either. BV in this case, at the least.) came in with Mike and is keeping him alive post scup.
Very TSE. But makes the logbook make some sense in universe. (Mike draws Nightmare Fredbear, and there is no way he should have seen him unless some memory sharing is going on.)
Plus it would be a great end to the brothers' arc. Forgiveness and cooperation.
Again, 100% my take. There are absolutely some leaps in logic here. But it just makes for a much more satisfying story imo. Less threads left dangling.
Damn! We almost got a lore relevant chica! We have a lore relevant freddy (golden), bonnie (springtrap), and foxy (mangle, if it’s to believed they caused the bite). Still no important chica : (
There's a fangame with Logbook Chica in it! It's called FNAF 6 Freakshow. Unfortunately the full release has been cancelled but there is a demo
I havent seen anyone mention this, but before fnaf 6 came out, scott released behind the scenes images of the first game for the anniversary. Each image had somthing hidden in the background, specifically the scrap animatronics. In one of the images, there is a weird chica looking head hiding behind the employee only door in parts and service. I have speculated chica was a cut character for years now, but i havent seen anyone talk about it until you did.
Another video I don't understand by the title. I am ready to be enlightened!
i always thought logbook chica was supposed to be help wanted's fix chica minigame
like, the blacklight version of the minigames was originally supposed to be with more broken animatronics but it ended up being cut for budget/time reasons
After watching your pizzeria simulator perfect final or flop video you pretty much spit out the reason why William should’ve been glitchtrap and burntrap because Henry’s speech may have been awesome but it wasn’t truly deserved yet so yeah
It makes sense. Scrap Baby was the first character we see in FFPS, yet we end up doing an actual salvage on her later. So maybe this was supposed to be a Chica reveal.
This is going to be a weird comparison. But in a lot of ways, FNAF feels like it has a similar problem to when Kinoko Nasu writes the Fate series. It feels like internal consistency isn't a high priority and instead, decisions are made by whatever feels cool/right in the moment.
Case in point, the timeline fuckery that HW2 caused
Perhaps Foxy isnt given as much focus as Chica in this situation because Michael fills the role as the "foxy" character?
I feel like having scrap chika would make a couple issues. The first is how scrap chika got in, the point is that you have to willingly risk the animatronics entering through the interview process, which is designed to happen at the end of nights. It works a lot better at the end of nights as well as it's thr scariest part of the game. Additionally, I think it'd mess with the story a bit as the missing children's souls are meat to be free as of Fnaf 3