Gauntlet Series - FINALE - Devialet Gemini II vs. Denon PerL Pro
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- What's good UA-cam?!? Today, the Gauntlet Series for the Devialet Gemini II earbuds comes to its end. The final opponent...the Denon PerL Pro earbuds. This should be a really great finale episode for this series... LET'S GO!!!!
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***Disclosure***: All earbuds in this video were purchased with my own money.
Unboxing videos:
Devialet Gemini II: • Devialet Gemini II Ear...
Denon PerL Pro: • Denon PerL Pro - Unbox...
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:47 - Fit & Aesthetics
05:11 - Mic Test - PerL Pro
05:31 - Mic Test - Gemini II
05:53 - ANC Test - PerL Pro
07:36 - ANC Test - Gemini II
10:16 - Sound Test - PerL Pro
15:33 - Sound Test - Gemini II
21:00 - Who Is My Pick?
27:11 - Outro
Where to purchase these earbuds:
Devialet Gemini II:
Devialet: tinyurl.com/DevialetGemini2
Amazon: tinyurl.com/RonzGemini2
Denon PerL Pro:
Denon: tinyurl.com/DenonPerLPro
Amazon: tinyurl.com/RonzPerLPro
#devialet #denon #amazon #gauntletseries #headtohead #earbuds
Just got the Gemini 2! OH SNAP!!!! THESE ARE MY NUMERO UNO!!! Don't hesitate! I have Sennheiser MTW 4, Beoplay EX, Jabra 10. These triumphed over them!!! Holy smokes ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Some say that Sennheiser MTW 4 are the real king of all, some don't!
I tried both and I think DPP are a slightly better than DG2 but just at the detail part ...
Both have are good but there's something in DPP of magical... Just a by a slightly bit...
Wow! Didn’t see that coming. I only have the Nura pro and haven’t bought the Denon. Agree, the Devialet Gemini ll are fantastic…
You’re absolutely right! The Gemeni are just unbelievable.. But crazy expensive.. Was lucky enough to find them second hand at 220$! SO SO happy !
Oh wow! Nice price!!
Where?
Nice work and informative info on the 2 HP’s
Glad you enjoyed it
Dude the way you explain your assessments, I love it. It's easy to follow and understand! I also like how you're so raw with your thoughts! Love it. God bless.
Awesome! Thank you!
Also didn't see that coming. I still vote DPP tho lol I also want to point out your sound profile looks WILDLY different than mines. Yours like quite default honestly (which sucked really really bad). I'm sure diffsound profiles per ear blah blah what I'm tryna say is try diff tip and run that sound test again. It took me like 10 tries (more lol) to really find something that just blew me away.
I knew it Ron haha i received mine yesterday and here's what i think:......... i am speechless hahaah the sound is so clear, precise, soundstage is wide, vocals are fantastic... Devialet hit a homerun with thos buds.
Are they better than Beoplay ex ? Thank you
@@hemalvyas9193 ahh honestly?!?! It's hard to say, because EX are my favorite one. BUT honestly, i must admit that the gemini 2 sound clearer, voices are way more clearer and in front. I have the feeling that the singer is in my head and each instruments are far from my shoulder. Soundstage is better with the gemini 2. Bass is similar on both. Beoplay ex have a terrible fit. If you listen music at home it's ok, but at the gym, i must replaced them oftenly. I don't like the fit. But with the gemini 2 the fit is excellent. I am at the gym right now and the fit is excellent !!!!
I dont know where you are, but here in Quebec city (canada), the EX cost me 600$ (taxes included). The gemini 2 cost me 745$ (taxes included). Is the extra 145$ worth it? Oh Yeahh !!! But it's up to you. I dont know your budget. If you have the money and you are willing to spend this amount of money, man, you will be blown away by the gemini 2.
I have over 50 earbuds and over 30 headphones (yeah it's my passion like Ron), and to be sincere, there are two earbuds and headphones that impressed me the most: gemini 2 and Focal Bathys (over the ear). To be honest, the gemini 2 sound better than my focal. So, yeah, if you are looking for gemini 2, take my word, they are the best of the best on the market.
If you want a budget earbuds, you can go with the Status audio between 3 anc. For the money, they are hard to beat. The sound is so hot!!! For 300$ they are unbeatable.
Just to give you an idea on how gemini 2 sound good, here is what i think. I have some iems at home. I bought the 7hz timeless ae (wired), with a dragonfly dac dungle(it cost me 800$). If i compare the two, they are neck to neck for sound quality and details. But man, the bass on the gemini is wayyy more powerful!!! So i prefer thr gemini and they are bluetooth 😄
I hope this help :)
Oh by the way i speak french so sorry for bad english :)
They amazed me too! This was a great head to head. The whole series was a lot of fun!
I think they are. Sound is a brighter and clearer.
@@ronontech can’t wait to listen your review between Gemini 2 vs Beoplay EX 🙌
Hey, brother, I’ve been following you for a long time. I just ordered a pair of Denon Derl Pro yesterday. I hope they will live up to my expectations and don’t have any issues at this price range.
Let me know what you think of them.
What you think about the denon Perl pro?
@@tracer073 bro the sound is unmatched but I sold them because it was so painful to fit them on my ears
@@Myonean bro did you try the different size ear tips, the one that came stock was too big for me, when i size down it fits perfect, its the only earbuds i have ever fall asleep with and woke up with it in my ears still. it fits perfect for me.
Like clockwork, I pick a pair based on call/mic quality and you pick the opposite. I talk on the phone a lot and the mic quality is just as important as sound quality. I got the Az-80s after watching your review. Might try the perl pro next. Keep on doing what you do brother
Sorry about that. I based my decision on sound quality as a lot of people ask for that. Thanks for the support.
Let me add, the DG2’s sound amazing with a great soundstage but I believe the DPP’s take it up a notch overall! There’s a section in the Back to the Future theme at the 1:44 mark where the Bass and Cello’s are gliding on their low strings where you are supposed to hear the build accompanied by the other stringed instruments with the expressive spurts of the horns creating intensity, where the DG2’s can’t quite capture with the level of effectiveness and excitement precision that the DPP’s accomplish! This makes the DPP’s better, while the DG2’s may give you more top end sizzle, some things may be too bright and harsh! Just listen to it in a better location with more controlled echoes in the room, then you’ll get it.
your profile on the Denon was almost a perfect circle, your ears have very little weakness compared to mine that has lumps and bumps on the display
I end up with a great sound though and that's what it's all about, I love my Denons
I used to have a set of Nuratrue but dropped and broke them, happy that I could replace them with the Denon
Thanks for sharing!
thank you for your answers please tell what about neckbands? can it compete with earbuds ? will sennheiser do neckband models ? what about beats will they do new models? why there are a lot of videos and reviews neackbands?
I prefer earbuds to neckbands. Some can compete with earbuds. I have no idea if Sennheiser or any other brand will do neckband models. Check out their websites to see what they offer.
I had some Sony neck bands style and I could hear the rubbing of the band on my clothes , from a listening to music point of view
Denon is better than my Senheiser ear buds, better than my Letshouer or Simgot IEMs and Shure headphones
Hmm, are the Deviale Gemini 2s really worth it?
I'm looking for the best, of the best, of the best headphones after three broken pairs of Sennheiser Momentum TWS 3, a Sony WF-1000XM4 and a 5.
Unfortunately, I don't have AptX Adaptive and above, as I'm currently using Pixel 6.
What's important to me is the best possible sound, wireless charging, ANC and decent microphones as I'm using earphones on the train. Nothing else matters. For now, I'm looking at the Denon PerL PRO, Deviale Gemini 2, Master & Dynamic MW09, Technics EAH-AZ80s and Jabra Elite 10.
Of these, I'm most curious to see how the Jabras actually sound. Is it as bad as it was in the previous headphones or is there a definite upgrade?
What would you recommend to me if I don't have AptX Adaptive for now?
In your case, I would recommend the Status Between 3ANC. They don't support aptX but the tuning on the triple drivers make them sound amazing.
Great video, Thanks! Does the Gemini II support a high Res codec like LDAC?
No they only have aptx from snapdragon
@@Patrickmathieu0482 I wonder if that includes aptx lossless.
They support aptX codec
No LDAC Qualcomm aptx
love this vid! by the way, do you have any recommendation to buy as alternative to denon perl pro in terms of sound quality? because denon perl pro is not available to buy here in my country. :(
Thanks! I would recommend the Status Between 3ANCs. They're right there with the PerL Pros, IMO.
@@ronontechNice reply and great reviews Ron! I’ve got 3ANC and love them yet would you say Denon is an upgrade to 3 ANC? Thanks for your suggestion on that
@@ronontechI bought them and had manufacturing issues. Return them right away
Ron please which spinfit tip do you use with theM&D MW 09...
I use the CP360 eartips with the MW09s.
i think so too, gemini II is the best, I had Denon true pro but i don't hear the detail(some), and which gemini II , i hear that as easy but the sound's dimenstion ain't massive
Thanks for sharing!
Beoplay Vs Denon .....what you think Ron?
Cause they r about the same price range.
I would go with the Denon. You get a brighter sound from the PerL Pros. The EQ/EX sound great, but the natural volume is low.
How have geminis held up after couple months after this review? Still stuck between these two in the video
Sorry for the late response.
They have held up very nicely so far. I'm very happy with them.
Can you please tell me which of these two truly wireless earbuds have the best sound quality?
1)devialet Gemini 11
And
2)Denon Perl Pro True Wireless Earbuds?
It's very, very close, IMO. But I think the Devialet Gemini IIs have the best sound.
@@ronontech hey buddy i'm just looking for call quaility. its really important for me. which buds i have to pick up?
What do you advise me to buy? 🤔
IMO, you can't go wrong either way.
Hey buddy, I lovebclear sound and extra bass. Should I go sony xm5 or Status 3anc ?I NEED HELP
I really like the XM5s, but in your case, go with the 3ANC.
Don't buy Sony at any cost...
Their build quality is simply bad. And their support is the worst I've ever seen...
Had to fight with them for over 3 months to replace my obviously broken unit. Never Sony again.
Besides they have a lot of small issues that I can list you if you want.
@@filipakaguptak5557Please do...
@@ronontech I personally had several problems with the connection on my devices. dropping connection, always using the lowest possible sound quality on LDAC, multipoint connection not working/freezing. Also no LC3 on non-Sony devices and huge problems on them.
Sony app is very unstable, crashes, freezes, and software on earbuds can cause ANC to not work at all (ANC is a popular topic on Reddit).
The buds often don't recognise that they're in the case, and will continue to play and not charge (also a popular issue on Reddit). Strange background noise such as clicking or white noise on one of the earbuds. Cases that wear off really quickly (the black mat after a while starts to shine). Loose thin plastic lid.
Foam tips that break after two weeks of use.
Pseudo-piano black buds that cause difficulties when taking them out of the case (sounds stupid, but it's really annoying in some situations).
On top of this, the microphones in my unit broke after less than a month. Support that falsified the repair reports. Long repairs, once I waited a month for a reply from them. Gives the worst experience I have ever had.
Luckily for me they broke the law and I had the Consumer Ombudsman on my side to help me. Without the ombudsman they would have completely ignored my messages and calls... So after three months of waiting and fighting I got my money back.
And just so it's not just me, I had similar problems with the Sennheiser Momentum TWS 3 and they replaced my buds within 4 days. And I also really liked my XM4 unit until the Sony updated and fried the battery.
I had good support and the build quality is holding up for my XM4s, trust me I dropped them more than I am proud of and I bought them on release. I did have some random temporary Bluetooth issues and volume issues though but they still sound good. Even left them in a hot car and briefly dropped them in water. Anyway I was having serious battery drain issues so I contacted Sony and after going through some steps Sony was willing to refund me the whole price, nearly $300 US! So now I'm browsing again for a new pair of earbuds/headphones. I started looking at the XM5 but I'm still deciding. I'm really liking this channel.
Following the exciting gauntlet series is like Game of throne for earbuds. Coming back from the 2023 top 5 to the finale, I realized the finale were between two 10mm Titanium dynamic driver, and only one candidate with BA driver enter (the Status Between ANC) and two (Noble, A&K) in the honorable mention. I don't think that is a coincident. What your list interpret to me is, the implementation of BA in TWS earbuds is still some challenge ahead, in term of amp power, positions, etc. unlike the already mature application on the IEM. But while almost all the brands are rush into mix the BA to their configuration, the day a single dynamic driver reign may be ending soon. I have all the combination, Free Byrd, Perl Pro, Liberty 3 pro and 4, Status Between pro, Jlab Epic lab, MTW3, and I can't agree with you more, the best of them are still the single dynamic driver buds, except the surprising balance and wide sound stage from Status Between. The Jlab epic lab is nice for their first attempt, but still long way to be refined.
Great analysis. Thanks for the support.
Great review Ron! I know you rate 3ANC right up there as well but would you say Denon Pearl Pro is an upgrade to 3ANC? Thanks for you take on that
Honestly, I consider them both on the same level. Neither is an upgrade over the other, IMO.
@@ronontech ❤️
I have both and yes, It is an upgrade! Once you use the Denon's "special sauce" so to speak. Nothing really beats it, not even the 3ANC.
in the picture on your phone with the Denon in your ear, the word Denon is upside down. is this normal?
Yeah. I noticed that too.
@@ronontechnot normal. Curius
If you see the Denon upside down, so this test is NOT CREDIBLE ! I have the pearl pro, are excellent and better compared to Sony or Devialet II (which I also have) You should be a little more serious
@@rolandj2650 Are the Pearl Pro better than the Bose Qc ultra?
I am trying to pick out a new pair of headphones. What makes you feel like the other pair is better?
Seems like overall call quality is better on other brands. But i didn't see much else
Final audio ze8000 or the upcoming ze8000 mk2😊
I'll try to get those in.
Waiting for MW09 vs Denon
Stay tuned. I'm working on it.
And how about Devialet Gemini 2 vs Final ZE8000 MK2?
I was very disappointed in the ZE8000 MK2. I returned them shortly after reviewing them.
@@ronontech mean’s that the Devialet are really a lot better between Final, Denon, Technics?
Gemini 1 sounds a little clearer than Gemini 2 from what I heard.
I returned my pair of Geminis shorly after I got them. Too many issues for me.
@@ronontechYou mean you returned the Gemini 2’s?
@@ronontechoriginal gemini?
The Gemini II has an impressive sound, but not a natural one. Denon has natural. In addition, Gemini II has unpleasant peaks. I liked the Denon better.
JLab Epic Lab Edition True Wireless Earbuds are the truth!
I'll have to check those out.
I wasnt a fan of the pp2, they have a very dynamic sound and it is tailored to my personal hearing... but something still lacks. It just doesnt sound very real to me. I even did the soundID app instead of the perl's sound test and it just was significantly more underwhelming compared to the ex. I havent heard the gemini 2, but im not paying 500 bucks for tech that will become obsolete in 2 to 3 years. Ill take the battery life of the mw09 because even if it degrades, whats the worst you'll get in 3 years, 8hrs of battery life?? 😂
Thanks for sharing.
I to disagree with you Ron my dude, though I like the sound of the Gemini 2’s, the Denon’s are just a step above in a few area’s when it comes to the overall, including the sound! I tried to hear you out but as an audiophile guy, I hear the sizzle that you hear and like on the top end of the DG2’s, that sizzle on the DPP’s is smoother and melted together with the blending of the overall sound and the low end can really be adjusted to your liking, at infinite point on the immerse fader it’s very accurate but with adjustments to rising the level it’s like you get surrounded by the sound and it really gives you the sense of space “Spatial Audio” with the soundstage. Now out of the box the DG2’s would win no doubt but after the AAT does it’s measurements, man, it’s like 2 different sets of earbuds. Let me put it this way, though out of the box the DPP’s still have that DTS 7.1 type sound, the AAT turns it into Dolby Atmos 9.2.4 which is the true definition of Spatial Audio! I listened to a few songs, some with a Beat, some without a beat, with just music and vocals, some orchestral like John Williams & London Symphony Orchestra from Superman Movies and Home Alone. Or Cincinnati Pops Orchestra with Back to the Future theme song, it’s crazy how much definition you hear when it’s not over shadowed by the beat. Also I think the Denon’s open up more pass the point that place your volume, maybe it’s just my Semi-Audiophile ears. But listen to how the strings and horns connect in the Back to the future them with the DPP’s, I think they might separate too much in the sizzle of the DG2’s because you don’t get the depth of what low end bass is suppose to create! But I guess folks are going to say it’s subjective, I do think that may be a cop out, if you really listen without talking and in a relaxed place with your eyes closed, you will hear it, not laying down but in a seated position. Good luck, oh and the battery makes another problem for the DG2’s, I’m just saying.
I appreciate your point of view. Thanks for sharing and the support!
Gemini 2 really are better?
Slightly better...yeah.
@@ronontechso i need buy the Gemini 2. Thank you.
I love your channel Ron... But unfortunately I have to tell you that the Gemini 2 are not even better for me!!! I listened to the Denon Pro and the Gemini 2 myself and for me the Denon are clearly the winners overall. My friends also listened to Denon and Devialet... But the Denon are just a little better! But everything is fine...so Ron keep it up...
well i think you must also consider that denon cost little more than 300 euro and gemini around 450 !!!
Thanks for sharing. But I have to disagree. I love the PerL Pro's sound but IMO, the Gemini's are a little better.
@kyrst75 I would consider that, if I was comparing the overall package.
@kyrst75 I just bought the Gemini 2 for €355 (through a deal from my bank), and the PerL pro's are €322.
So because you're even saying to keep the price difference in mind, it's basically saying the Gemini's are better and if the price is basically the same, it's a no brainer for me
I disagree, Bub.
Want to see a shootout between the MW09 and the Gemini 2.
Stay tuned..
Hello Ron!
I purchased both from a company in my country with good return policy
ANC on Denon was non existent for me - I did not want to believe it
Gemini 2 is similar to Airpods2 pro - I instantly felt it
While for Denon, anc walking outside next to cars or next to a fan or steam sweeper was hardly anything - when transparency was one it was the same just a different artifical sound
I did not want to believe its so crap, I really wanted to like the Denon
I am confused as everybody sais ANC is so good for Denon
Gemini 2 is zero occlusion, very good anc, nice sound. I do get windnoise. Funny that you experienced no windnoise and consider anc mediocore
My issue with g2 now is connecting from laptop to phone. For example I was unalbe to accept a call on phone when I was in a teams meeting on the laptop, but I will need to test more
Thanks for your work
Are you using the proper earbuds tip size for your ears? I prefer foam tips over silicone all day, so I’m using the foam tips and the ANC is great, like my former Sennheiser TW3’s but the Denon’s may be better. I’m also using the larger winged clips with the foams. I have both the Devialet G2’s and the Denon PP’s and I’m returning the G2’s, because they also are not comfortable, it seems too close in my ear but the tip area is not long enough to seal for the ANC on the G2’s!
Yes I have been trying out
Crazy how different these products feel for differrent people
Not easy to rely on reviews for earbuds , really need to see for yourself
So you consider the Denon’s ANC to Mom3? Did you bave any chance to compare to like ap2, xm5, az80?
Best!
@@istvanfodor8704 don’t know if you’re speaking to me or Ron, but I compared the SennMTW3’s to the Sony’s and I preferred the Senn’s regarding sound and thought they were close to the Sony’s regarding the ANC even if Sony was better (ANC) but the sound of the Senn’s were top tier for my taste! Now the Denon Perl Pro are on another level with Sound and The DG2’s were next on the list!
@@RodizellMusicalOne thank you
I'm sorry to hear that you didn't have a great experience with the PerL Pros. Did you try other eartips with them? I swapped the stock ones with a pair of SpinFits and they improved there anc and sound quality.
Wind Noise reduction and ANC are different. I have earbuds and headphones that have good ANC but the WNR isn't that great.
As for your connection issue with the G2s, are you still having that issue? Have you tried resetting them?
Sorry for the late response.
I just got the Devialet and they suck compared to Denon, not even close. They just have bass. The sound stage is even worse than sennheiser mtw3-4. Spatial audio non existent. They don't fit well in the ears and the sound is not clear (maybe same level as the sony xm5). Finally from 60% volume there is a lot of distortion especially in high frequency. Def not worth the price. I would pay 200$ for Devialet not more. I even thought I got a defective model but I will not give them a second chance.
So my top 5 is Denon Perl Pro >> Sennheiser mtw4 >> xm5 > devialet gemini 2 >> Bose qc ultra
I listened to all kind of music when I tested them : Trap, US Rap, Electronic/Dubstep for (sub) bass and vocals and Classical music for instrument separation and sound stage. And I use apple music lossless for test with the highest aptx codec
I appreciate your opinion. And you have a nice top 5. Thanks for sharing.
S23U gang 💪