How a panel is stored can cause it to warp. For example, leaning it against a wall can cause it to warp because of gravity. So placing it a frame where it will be held flat against the frame and hung vertically on a wall would be better. There are other reasons why a canvas panel might warp though. The board might absorb moisture from the paint which causes a situation where one side of the panel expands more than the other. Also, acrylics tend to shrink as they dry (I'm not sure which medium you're using) so it might cause paper or canvas boards to cup a little bit. The canvas panels that have cardboard cores are more prone to warping. Look for canvas panels that are made from wood, or you can make them- here's my demo: ua-cam.com/video/JQ6qkGVsB44/v-deo.html A cradled panel is the least likely to warp because it has wood bracing on the back as shown in this video ua-cam.com/video/H7IQa9fLzd8/v-deo.html
I'm blown away how difficult it is to find floater frames for standard canvas, with all the art classes happening you'd think you could find these everywhere.
Thanks, I try to edit out all of the fluff! 🙂 I recently published a couple of other picture framing videos. If you’re interested, they’re in my picture framing playlist.
Hi Chris, thanks for this helpful video. I was looking for the kind of frame in the first option -- the one with the wood backing. Where did you find that type of frame?
Thank you so much Chris for sharing the idea as to how to frame canvas paintings. I was really keen to learn it..thanks again..subscribed and liked too as you deserve it 😊👍👌
This was excellent information. Thank you! Where did you purchase the first drop-in option frame? I haven’t been able to find something similar to this.
@@ChrisBreier Unfortunately, my panel is 16 x 20, so just a bit bigger than the options they offer. When I search for "flat panel frame" or "plein air painting frames", I never see a backing on the options.
@@brielleschmidt8439 You might have to go with option 2 and use points to hold the panel in a regular frame. There are point drivers listed in the description. You might be able to make a frame with a back like the first option but the measurements are tricky-the frame would have to be larger than 16x20.
Where can we purchase the plein air frames in option 1? Cannot find these anywhere, not with a full 6x6 opening (what we are looking for). Thank you for any resource info you may have.
I'm a little curious, ist a standard to frame an artwork without a glass or a plexi glass, what if I feel I want to install one, was it out of the norm? I don't know anything about art so do I on framing those, but somebody's asking me to... help pls!
Generally speaking, works on paper such as drawings and watercolors are framed behind glass to protect them. Oils and acrylics on canvas are usually displayed without glass, although I have seen a few behind glass.
The first frame which has the wooden panel backing board is impossible to find. I've tried by looking up Plein air, as suggested but I find only standard canvas painting frames without the wood back panel. Where do they come from?
I updated the video description and it includes a link to the site for the plein air frames. Unfortunately, the site hasn't been accepting payments for years.When I contacted them in 2022 they said they were updating their site and they asked me what I would like to order. So maybe you can try contacting them to see if they still make these frames. It was such a simple way to frame a panel!
Small frames are difficult to find. I did see some at a big box craft store but I’m not sure if they’re deep enough to accept a mini canvas. I did a few mini canvases and I displayed them on a mini easel.
From what you said, it sounds the artist shipped the painting rolled. Oil paintings on canvas are usually stretched over a wood frame made from "stretcher bars." It's possible to stretch it yourself but that can be risky if you have never stretched a canvas before. I recommend taking it to a reputable framer and see if they can stretch it for you. Also, you might want to contact the artist who sold it to you and ask them for some advice.
If it’s made from wood, that might work if it’s deep enough. The problem with metal frames is you can’t drive points into it to secure the panel in place.
If you're asking about the risers then I assume that you're framing a flat panel so look for the floaterframe that says it fits flat and cradled panels up to 7/8" deep (which is what I used in this video). The deeper floater frames are for thicker canvases and panels. There's the thin edge and thick edge, I like the thin but that's just my preference! 🙂 The Ampersand website lists all of the different styles and colors.
@@ChrisBreier thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my comment!! If I wanted to buy my own ‘risers’ what are they called exactly? Google isn’t bringing up the results I want .
@@Erinba Oh, I see! I think something like a square wooden dowel might work. The ones that come with the frame are 15mm on one side and 19mm on the other.
I get them from Blick, there's a link in the description under "wood frame". I also have a video on how to assemble them. ua-cam.com/video/tv5EJBgwtjI/v-deo.html
HI Chris, great video. The second option (easiest one with point driver) - Is that type of floater frame only available as a frame kit? or are there some pre made you can order online..Not sure what to search for that type of floater frame..Thank you
The floater frame is the 3rd option (with the salt shaker/tomato painting).The second option with the boat painting is just a regular wood frame which I believe is the link in the description that just says “wood frame”. You just glue the corners together and pound in the plastic pieces. There are wood frames like that which are already assembled but they’re usually only available in standard sizes like 8x10, 11x14 etc. The plain square frame profile is usually considered to be a “modern” or “contemporary” frame.
For the third option, do I need to attach the panel to wood or anything so it holds up with time? The back of my canvas board says “economy cotton canvas panel”. Primed w gesso. 100% recycled material. Thx in advance
The painting in the video was on gessobord which is a type of wood. Some canvas panels have a cardboard interior which may not as durable. Either way I don't think you need to attach the panel to an extra piece of wood or anything like that. The floater frames from Ampersand comes with instructions which is what I followed in the video. I hope this helps!
I bought it at the local home improvement center. It's GE premium waterproof silicone. The top of the tube says Silicone II and it's the clear version. I think they may have changed the packaging recently. Other brands will work too. I hope this helps!
I think the only issue is if the points are rigid you won't be able to bend them back to slip your artwork in the frame. In that case you would have to remove the points, put your painting in the frame, and then use a point driver to put in new points. Most inexpensive frames don't use the flexible points that I used in the demo.
Thank you so much for this informative video! Could you tell me the website you used for getting the wood frames that you assembled? I assume they're a good place to get abnormal sizes (which I seem to be a fan of unfortunately).
Thanks! I made an entire video on how I assembled the wood frame. Here's the link to that video which also has links to the wood frames in the description. ua-cam.com/video/tv5EJBgwtjI/v-deo.html. I try to work within the most common canvas sizes because there are a lot of benefits to doing so as I describe in this video, but sometimes a painting just requires a specific size and proportion! ua-cam.com/video/85Y9OcDpp7g/v-deo.html
Great video, but very frustrating trying to find the first option anywhere. The site that you recommend in the comments says "it's not accepting payments". Do you have any other places to find these?
Thanks! I just sent them an email asking if they're still taking orders. I will let you know what I find out. I haven't been able to find another source which is disappointing because these make it so easy to frame panels. It's possible to make your own, but it's a little complicated and the extra work kind of makes it not worth it. Anyway, it's basically a regular frame with a piece of wood attached to the back. The only issue is that the opening of a standard 8x10 frame is smaller than 8x10. Plus you want a little extra space around the painting too. So you would have to paint on custom sized panels that take all of that into account. Or you could order a custom frame that has an opening that is larger.
I found these which have an open back but they're designed so you can glue the panel to the frame. (I never tried them, and I have no affiliation with them). www.webpictureframes.com/product4/3349/black_panel_floater_frame.htm
The silicone is removable so it doesn't ruin the Gessobord. Foam tape is even easier to remove as I demonstrate in this video ua-cam.com/video/y7G-id_-Sck/v-deo.htmlsi=ai2nsnuBFKooWWjn
Any item suggestions for the floating frame spacers? I came across two frames with no spacers. I just need those. Got the canvas printed and stretched, its just too small for the frame and i cant find these at ANY local stores. Please help :(
That’s a tough one...I think you could figure out how tall the spacers need to be and then maybe you could find small wood blocks at a craft store. Or look for square wood dowels at a hardware store. They come in different sizes and maybe one would be close enough. I hope this helps!
Chris Breier thank you! I looked online and the closet thing I could find was plastic spacers, $8 for 60” and a 12pk for $55 😅 I’ll try the search for wood blocks! Thank you so much for this tutorial. We will definitely be using these methods in our print shop!
You can buy the wood or metal moulding by the inch and assemble the frame yourself. I've had good luck with westfall framing. Or you can take it to a frame shop. westfallframing.com/
Hi, would this stop the paintings from warping over time? I'm currently painting a canvas panel and it is warping and I haven't completed it yet.
How a panel is stored can cause it to warp. For example, leaning it against a wall can cause it to warp because of gravity. So placing it a frame where it will be held flat against the frame and hung vertically on a wall would be better. There are other reasons why a canvas panel might warp though. The board might absorb moisture from the paint which causes a situation where one side of the panel expands more than the other. Also, acrylics tend to shrink as they dry (I'm not sure which medium you're using) so it might cause paper or canvas boards to cup a little bit. The canvas panels that have cardboard cores are more prone to warping. Look for canvas panels that are made from wood, or you can make them- here's my demo: ua-cam.com/video/JQ6qkGVsB44/v-deo.html A cradled panel is the least likely to warp because it has wood bracing on the back as shown in this video ua-cam.com/video/H7IQa9fLzd8/v-deo.html
I'm blown away how difficult it is to find floater frames for standard canvas, with all the art classes happening you'd think you could find these everywhere.
Some art stores carry them in the most popular sizes. If not, you can order them online.
Thank you Chris for showing how to frame flat panels.
I have been searching for exactly this! 🙏THANK YOU!
THANK YOU FOR THIS. Exactly what I was looking for.
When i mount my panels in floater frames i also paint the spacers (blocks) with black acrylic. Great demo though!
Your paintings are beautiful! Good video. I am always trying to find a way to frame mine.
Wow! A very concise, informative and short tutorial...thank you sooo much!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you, Chris for making this video! Exactly the information I needed. Subscribed. Beautiful work too. 😁
iron60arts Thanks for the complements, good luck with the picture framing!
Thank You for the valuable Info. The Tip with the Silicone for the Spacers was really clever.
Good information. Good presentation. Direct, to the point and well done. Subscribed.
Thanks, I try to edit out all of the fluff! 🙂 I recently published a couple of other picture framing videos. If you’re interested, they’re in my picture framing playlist.
Chris, thnx so much for your vids! I just started showing and entering into gallery shows and your mounting, wiring etc. is all very very helpful!
This was great information! Thank you, Chris!
Thanks. This was detailed and really helpful.
Thank you so much for this much needed video!!!!
Hi Chris, thanks for this helpful video. I was looking for the kind of frame in the first option -- the one with the wood backing. Where did you find that type of frame?
ua-cam.com/video/tv5EJBgwtjI/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Thank you Chris. That made things easier for me. I appreciate it.
Legend! Thank you for this. Great video.
your tips are the best.thank you
Thanks, was informative! Will assist in framing canvas board paintings :)
Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks
I looked a couple of days before I finally happened on this clear explanation of ways to frame my canvas panels. Thank you!!
You’re welcome Vickie, I’m glad you found it useful!
Much obliged, thank you for the tips.
Really helpful, thank you!
Thank you so much Chris for sharing the idea as to how to frame canvas paintings. I was really keen to learn it..thanks again..subscribed and liked too as you deserve it 😊👍👌
Hi Ranjana, I look forward to reading your comments, thanks for subscribing!
Thank you, this video was very helpful 🙌✨
Thanks, I'm glad that you found it helpful!
This is exactly what I was look for thank you
This was excellent information. Thank you! Where did you purchase the first drop-in option frame? I haven’t been able to find something similar to this.
Thanks! I think this is the one that I used in the video, they have other styles of frames too. www.dailypaintersframes.com/1687.html
Chris Breier Yes, that’s it. Thank you, Chris!
Excellent video. Super useful info, thank you so much for sharing
Great video! Thank you for showing the different options.
You're welcome Sarah!
This was very helpful! Thank you so much. :D
This video was SUPER helpful! Thank you! Just stumbled upon your channel and have subscribed!
Welcome to my channel Jenny Fowler! I look forward to reading your comments, thanks for subscribing.
Great tutorial hanging panel tools
This was really helpful. Thanks for posting.
Great tutorial! I'm having a difficult time finding frames with backings like your first option. Could you provide some helpful links? Thanks!
😊 This is where I bought them www.dailypaintersframes.com/1687.html
@@ChrisBreier Unfortunately, my panel is 16 x 20, so just a bit bigger than the options they offer. When I search for "flat panel frame" or "plein air painting frames", I never see a backing on the options.
@@brielleschmidt8439 You might have to go with option 2 and use points to hold the panel in a regular frame. There are point drivers listed in the description. You might be able to make a frame with a back like the first option but the measurements are tricky-the frame would have to be larger than 16x20.
@@brielleschmidt8439 Did you ever find one? Sounds like you and I are looking for exactly the same thing, same size.
Exactly what I was looking for! Subscribed. :)
Thank you so very much. It’s very helpful and well done video. I needed it!
Thanks, I'm glad it helped!
Yay thank you so much!!! I’ve been painting a lot of canvas panels because I’m also painting oil and I was like well how do I get it in a frame
You’re welcome, I’m glad you found it useful!
Very informative. Thank you.
Awesome, great video - thanks!
Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful!
Never knew Michael Stipe was an artist
I'll take that as a compliment 🙂
It was meant that way, great framing btw!@@ChrisBreier
Ty! So helpful.
This is great, thanks so much!
Thank you!
Thanking you 😁😁😁
Where can we purchase the plein air frames in option 1? Cannot find these anywhere, not with a full 6x6 opening (what we are looking for). Thank you for any resource info you may have.
This is where I bought them from. I think they’re working on the site. You might have to contact them. www.dailypaintersframes.com/1687.html
great info thanks
I'm a little curious, ist a standard to frame an artwork without a glass or a plexi glass, what if I feel I want to install one, was it out of the norm?
I don't know anything about art so do I on framing those, but somebody's asking me to... help pls!
Generally speaking, works on paper such as drawings and watercolors are framed behind glass to protect them. Oils and acrylics on canvas are usually displayed without glass, although I have seen a few behind glass.
so chris when are you gonna start a master class!
The first frame which has the wooden panel backing board is impossible to find. I've tried by looking up Plein air, as suggested but I find only standard canvas painting frames without the wood back panel. Where do they come from?
I updated the video description and it includes a link to the site for the plein air frames. Unfortunately, the site hasn't been accepting payments for years.When I contacted them in 2022 they said they were updating their site and they asked me what I would like to order. So maybe you can try contacting them to see if they still make these frames. It was such a simple way to frame a panel!
Thank you so much for this informative video...
Joined u.. Stay blessed.. 👍
Elegant Art You’re welcome! 😀
Instead of silicone adhesive you could use double sided adhesive tape.
Just what i needed!!
I’m glad it helped! 😁
Very helpful! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I'm looking for Ideas to frame a 3x4 mini canvas painting..
Small frames are difficult to find. I did see some at a big box craft store but I’m not sure if they’re deep enough to accept a mini canvas. I did a few mini canvases and I displayed them on a mini easel.
Thanks
Thanks for the super thanks! I will put it towards my next art supply haul! 😀
Hi..
I have a oil painting without any edges done on a cloth (not pannel) I received it as rolled ...
How to fram this into a frame ?!
From what you said, it sounds the artist shipped the painting rolled. Oil paintings on canvas are usually stretched over a wood frame made from "stretcher bars." It's possible to stretch it yourself but that can be risky if you have never stretched a canvas before. I recommend taking it to a reputable framer and see if they can stretch it for you. Also, you might want to contact the artist who sold it to you and ask them for some advice.
Can you just use a photo frame and remove the glass?
If it’s made from wood, that might work if it’s deep enough. The problem with metal frames is you can’t drive points into it to secure the panel in place.
Thank you so much. How do you chose the right floater frame with the risers?
If you're asking about the risers then I assume that you're framing a flat panel so look for the floaterframe that says it fits flat and cradled panels up to 7/8" deep (which is what I used in this video). The deeper floater frames are for thicker canvases and panels. There's the thin edge and thick edge, I like the thin but that's just my preference! 🙂 The Ampersand website lists all of the different styles and colors.
@@ChrisBreier thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my comment!! If I wanted to buy my own ‘risers’ what are they called exactly? Google isn’t bringing up the results I want .
@@Erinba Oh, I see! I think something like a square wooden dowel might work. The ones that come with the frame are 15mm on one side and 19mm on the other.
Can you tell me exactly what kind of gun in the second video? What brand what size? Please
It's made by Fletcher, there's a link to it in the description. Logan makes one too.
Here's a link to a short video where I use the one made by Logan ua-cam.com/users/shortslsFQPJ_lzFo?si=aEZ-CxCy1zDlx57P
Thank you so much!
I need to know more about that second option. Where do you get those? I can't find them
I get them from Blick, there's a link in the description under "wood frame". I also have a video on how to assemble them. ua-cam.com/video/tv5EJBgwtjI/v-deo.html
@@ChrisBreier thank you!
HI Chris, great video. The second option (easiest one with point driver) - Is that type of floater frame only available as a frame kit? or are there some pre made you can order online..Not sure what to search for that type of floater frame..Thank you
The floater frame is the 3rd option (with the salt shaker/tomato painting).The second option with the boat painting is just a regular wood frame which I believe is the link in the description that just says “wood frame”. You just glue the corners together and pound in the plastic pieces. There are wood frames like that which are already assembled but they’re usually only available in standard sizes like 8x10, 11x14 etc. The plain square frame profile is usually considered to be a “modern” or “contemporary” frame.
@@ChrisBreier Thank you!
For the third option, do I need to attach the panel to wood or anything so it holds up with time? The back of my canvas board says “economy cotton canvas panel”. Primed w gesso. 100% recycled material. Thx in advance
The painting in the video was on gessobord which is a type of wood. Some canvas panels have a cardboard interior which may not as durable. Either way I don't think you need to attach the panel to an extra piece of wood or anything like that. The floater frames from Ampersand comes with instructions which is what I followed in the video. I hope this helps!
thanks!
What's the name of the gun sir that u used to lock the edges
It’s a fletcher point driver, it’s a little pricey but worth it. I list all of the tools etc in the description. 🙂
What is the silicone glue you used on the floater frame? Thank you!
I bought it at the local home improvement center. It's GE premium waterproof silicone. The top of the tube says Silicone II and it's the clear version. I think they may have changed the packaging recently. Other brands will work too. I hope this helps!
in the second tutorial with the point gun, is it just as effective to use a regular photo frame with the points already in place?
I think the only issue is if the points are rigid you won't be able to bend them back to slip your artwork in the frame. In that case you would have to remove the points, put your painting in the frame, and then use a point driver to put in new points. Most inexpensive frames don't use the flexible points that I used in the demo.
Thank you so much for this informative video! Could you tell me the website you used for getting the wood frames that you assembled? I assume they're a good place to get abnormal sizes (which I seem to be a fan of unfortunately).
Thanks! I made an entire video on how I assembled the wood frame. Here's the link to that video which also has links to the wood frames in the description. ua-cam.com/video/tv5EJBgwtjI/v-deo.html. I try to work within the most common canvas sizes because there are a lot of benefits to doing so as I describe in this video, but sometimes a painting just requires a specific size and proportion! ua-cam.com/video/85Y9OcDpp7g/v-deo.html
@@ChrisBreier thank you so much!
Great video, but very frustrating trying to find the first option anywhere. The site that you recommend in the comments says "it's not accepting payments". Do you have any other places to find these?
Thanks! I just sent them an email asking if they're still taking orders. I will let you know what I find out. I haven't been able to find another source which is disappointing because these make it so easy to frame panels. It's possible to make your own, but it's a little complicated and the extra work kind of makes it not worth it. Anyway, it's basically a regular frame with a piece of wood attached to the back. The only issue is that the opening of a standard 8x10 frame is smaller than 8x10. Plus you want a little extra space around the painting too. So you would have to paint on custom sized panels that take all of that into account. Or you could order a custom frame that has an opening that is larger.
I found these which have an open back but they're designed so you can glue the panel to the frame. (I never tried them, and I have no affiliation with them). www.webpictureframes.com/product4/3349/black_panel_floater_frame.htm
3:45, instead of ruining you art board, why not glue the blocks inside the frame? 👍🏽
The silicone is removable so it doesn't ruin the Gessobord. Foam tape is even easier to remove as I demonstrate in this video ua-cam.com/video/y7G-id_-Sck/v-deo.htmlsi=ai2nsnuBFKooWWjn
Any item suggestions for the floating frame spacers? I came across two frames with no spacers. I just need those. Got the canvas printed and stretched, its just too small for the frame and i cant find these at ANY local stores. Please help :(
That’s a tough one...I think you could figure out how tall the spacers need to be and then maybe you could find small wood blocks at a craft store. Or look for square wood dowels at a hardware store. They come in different sizes and maybe one would be close enough. I hope this helps!
Maybe contact Ampersand support and see if you could buy some spacers.
Chris Breier thank you! I looked online and the closet thing I could find was plastic spacers, $8 for 60” and a 12pk for $55 😅 I’ll try the search for wood blocks! Thank you so much for this tutorial. We will definitely be using these methods in our print shop!
Do you know where I can get a frame 52x38?
You can buy the wood or metal moulding by the inch and assemble the frame yourself. I've had good luck with westfall framing. Or you can take it to a frame shop. westfallframing.com/
Hi Chris, where can I buy a frame like yours in the 2nd approach?
There are links in the description, look for the one that says “wood frame.” It’s easy to assemble.
Great, found it ... Ayous Wood Frame Kits, thank you for sharing your knowledge!