I'm a retired British marine engineer officer. During my studies in the 1970s, we sometimes watched American training films such as these, just to illustrate further what we were drawing and calculating. Even though they were old films, they were as relevant then as the day they were made, and were superb. I think with this video, the only thing lacking is maybe a further explanation of Fwd and Aft perpendiculars, and LBP ( length between perpendiculars ), i.e. stem, stern post and the length between them at the summer load line. Very enjoyable to watch.
@@damonthomas8955 rather than me try to explain it, you might like to look at the link . It's Wiki, but the representations of perpendiculars and LBP are accurate. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Length_between_perpendiculars The Summer Load line is the basic datum of Plimsoll mark, seen on the side of ships. Again, if you look it up, you'll see there are other marks above and below - so for example WNA is Winter North Atlantic; this indicates that the ship can not be loaded as deeply during the winter in the North Atlantic, as it can be in the summer, due to potential storms.
@@Liberty2357 I rather think that today's training videos might possibly be even better, given what they can represent with CGI. But back then, they were only just starting to use cartoon animation as a training aid, and did brilliantly well. I believe the animation department at Walt Disney were very much involved.
I worked on Drillships and Semi-submersibles for may years. They are just massive and complex structures. This is helpful, wish I had seen it years ago.
I served on the USS Forrestal from '71-'74. After our 3rd Med cruise, we went into the "docks." Not they dry ones. Next to us was the America in "dry dock." I got down to the floor of the dock and looked up. I couldn't see the flight deck. The America is a "Forrestal-type class" carrier. That's when I realized just how big a ship I was on. The keel is simply amazing on these carriers.
Think how many tens of thousands of new war workers were shown this film. Be they working in a Kaiser shipyard building Liberty ships, or the multitudes that expanded the yards building the warships. Our ability to mobilize and train these thousands led to victory.
Yes,Everything or almost anyway had to be designed so an uneducated person could work on and assemble or repair it.Schools were set up to teach this stuff in the simplist way possible yet a quality product was a must.Its amazing how all this came together in such a short period of time.
Fascinating. I freely admit that I didn't know a thing about traditional ship construction before watching this. I wonder if these methods have been supplanted by the new sectional approach I've seen in more recent videos?
Correct me if I'm wrong is it not the commercial sea vessel is numbered 0 from the rudder stock/ tube frame going to aft aft - 1 to aft peak..and from O going to fwd as ID of frame lines ..and if war ship 0 frame lines starts from fwd going to aft...this is just inquiry based on what I read from Naval architectural book.
I wonder why they used sectional drawings looking both fore and aft? It seems to me as though they could have forestalled much confusion by sticking to one or the other.
People rip off their hard work if they don't have the timer were it is. You can get a copy from the National archives but I for sure would have no way the view them.
ere's the issue: Tens of thousands of films similar to this one have been lost forever -- destroyed -- and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like these online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes. In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous UA-cam users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content! We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to spend precious time dealing with policing thievery -- and not what we devoted ourselves to do. Love our channel and want to support what we do? You can help us save and post more orphaned films! Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/PeriscopeFilm Even a really tiny contribution can make a difference.
Here's the issue: Tens of thousands of films similar to this one have been lost forever -- destroyed -- and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like these online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes. In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous UA-cam users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content! We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to spend precious time dealing with policing thievery -- and not what we devoted ourselves to do. Love our channel and want to support what we do? You can help us save and post more orphaned films! Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/PeriscopeFilm Even a really tiny contribution can make a difference.
Liked the video content fine, but the counter was frequently obscuring important labels. Would it be possible to place the counter off to the side a bit, or have the "PeriscopeFilm.com" label and counter separate, say one at the top and one at the bottom of the video?
Here's the issue: Tens of thousands of films similar to this one have been lost forever -- destroyed -- and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like these online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes. In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous UA-cam users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content! We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to spend precious time dealing with policing thievery -- and not what we devoted ourselves to do. Love our channel and want to support what we do? You can help us save and post more orphaned films! Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/PeriscopeFilm Even a really tiny contribution can make a difference.
I'm a retired British marine engineer officer. During my studies in the 1970s, we sometimes watched American training films such as these, just to illustrate further what we were drawing and calculating. Even though they were old films, they were as relevant then as the day they were made, and were superb. I think with this video, the only thing lacking is maybe a further explanation of Fwd and Aft perpendiculars, and LBP ( length between perpendiculars ), i.e. stem, stern post and the length between them at the summer load line. Very enjoyable to watch.
Could you further elucidate those terms please.
@@damonthomas8955 rather than me try to explain it, you might like to look at the link . It's Wiki, but the representations of perpendiculars and LBP are accurate.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Length_between_perpendiculars
The Summer Load line is the basic datum of Plimsoll mark, seen on the side of ships. Again, if you look it up, you'll see there are other marks above and below - so for example WNA is Winter North Atlantic; this indicates that the ship can not be loaded as deeply during the winter in the North Atlantic, as it can be in the summer, due to potential storms.
It's amazing (and sad) how these films are better than anything produced today.
@@Liberty2357 I rather think that today's training videos might possibly be even better, given what they can represent with CGI. But back then, they were only just starting to use cartoon animation as a training aid, and did brilliantly well. I believe the animation department at Walt Disney were very much involved.
@@Liberty2357 now a days they just use these cause its cheaper than making a new one every year
Im proud to say Im a shipbuilder and know my frames and longs, fwd and aft, This is an excellent training film!
I have to respect the artist(s) who created the graphics for this. No convenient computers back then.
all this video done without computer ! Amazing analog work.
Love these simple to understand visuals and animations.
I worked on Drillships and Semi-submersibles for may years. They are just massive and complex structures. This is helpful, wish I had seen it years ago.
I served on the USS Forrestal from '71-'74. After our 3rd Med cruise, we went into the "docks." Not they dry ones. Next to us was the America in "dry dock." I got down to the floor of the dock and looked up. I couldn't see the flight deck. The America is a "Forrestal-type class" carrier. That's when I realized just how big a ship I was on. The keel is simply amazing on these carriers.
I Worked at Todd shipyard Seattle’78-‘83 on the FFG Program . Shipfitter on FFG-17 and FFG-31 . I really enjoyed this work . Very satisfying.
I was a field boilermaker for Local 502 for 10 years between' 79- '89. I met a few guys from Todd back in the day.
You musta worked on the USCG Healy before?
OMG damage control flashbacks, I sometimes miss my old boat. (:
Interesting and informative info on basic ship design.
Shipfitters know this all to well 💪
Think how many tens of thousands of new war workers were shown this film. Be they working in a Kaiser shipyard building Liberty ships, or the multitudes that expanded the yards building the warships. Our ability to mobilize and train these thousands led to victory.
Yes,Everything or almost anyway had to be designed so an uneducated person could work on and assemble or repair it.Schools were set up to teach this stuff in the simplist way possible yet a quality product was a must.Its amazing how all this came together in such a short period of time.
I wish I had seen this before joining my ship over 50 years ago. Would have saved a lot of confusion in the first couple of days,
Now I know how Noah felt or had to think, I wonder if he herd God in the same manner... Love these videos.
useful. they should produce stuff like this today
0:56 "If you're in the navy" ... Come on, who could resist?
"You can sail the seven seas..."
Fascinating. I freely admit that I didn't know a thing about traditional ship construction before watching this. I wonder if these methods have been supplanted by the new sectional approach I've seen in more recent videos?
They are built in sections, but all of the components are very much the same.
Wonderful video!
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Watching this makes me want to try my hand at drafting fantasy blueprints for spelljammer vessels. I'm going to see how that turns out.
Wow.. it is very interesting video
Next week: We explore the superstructure, stay tuned.. :-)
0:40 USS Lexington or Saratoga, 0:47 Brooklyn class cruiser
fascinating! thank you!
amazing.
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@@PeriscopeFilm Okay I will! I am hoping to learn how to navigate and sail a battleship from these videos. Don't let me down!
And in Japan if you don't Bow you get a stern look
Obi Wan has taught you well.
Correct me if I'm wrong is it not the commercial sea vessel is numbered 0 from the rudder stock/ tube frame going to aft aft - 1 to aft peak..and from O going to fwd as ID of frame lines ..and if war ship 0 frame lines starts from fwd going to aft...this is just inquiry based on what I read from Naval architectural book.
I wonder why they used sectional drawings looking both fore and aft? It seems to me as though they could have forestalled much confusion by sticking to one or the other.
All that steel n time for a couple torpedos. Brave men building and sailing.
They invented the cursor see! in 1943!
Excellent
Need more
Do I get my UA-cam shipwright's license after watching?
You have the right to remain salilin, anything you crew can and will be used against you.
Interesting
Can you please relocate the time counter to somewhere else in the frame? It frequently conflicts with content. Thanks.
People rip off their hard work if they don't have the timer were it is. You can get a copy from the National archives but I for sure would have no way the view them.
ere's the issue: Tens of thousands of films similar to this one have been lost forever -- destroyed -- and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like these online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes.
In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous UA-cam users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content! We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to spend precious time dealing with policing thievery -- and not what we devoted ourselves to do.
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.....this is an iceberg gash, we call this the British hubris line, note the minimal damage......
What was the intended audience for this film? New shipyard workers, drafted seamen, undergraduate naval engineers, w.h.y.?
It is a basic introduction to ship structure for anyone who will be working in, on or around a ship.
I particularly like the big, obtrusive watermark, it's an invaluable addition to this public domain film.
Here's the issue: Tens of thousands of films similar to this one have been lost forever -- destroyed -- and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like these online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes.
In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous UA-cam users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content! We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to spend precious time dealing with policing thievery -- and not what we devoted ourselves to do.
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@@PeriscopeFilm - seems fair enough.
I guess it was so hot working down in the tank tops that the men were down to their singlets?
I won't bore you with the details, so, shirt answer: yes.
Bulkhead retaining pin = a nail 😁
the arrow is the same as my pc !!
Ships are shipped.
Liked the video content fine, but the counter was frequently obscuring important labels. Would it be possible to place the counter off to the side a bit, or have the "PeriscopeFilm.com" label and counter separate, say one at the top and one at the bottom of the video?
Here's the issue: Tens of thousands of films similar to this one have been lost forever -- destroyed -- and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like these online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes.
In the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous UA-cam users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content! We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to spend precious time dealing with policing thievery -- and not what we devoted ourselves to do.
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... Buttock lines. HEY HONEY. GUESS WHAT.
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The narrator gets $6 million per picture.
6:24 "Its symbol is C. Be gay". Auto subtitles ^_^