FYI: Unwatering is removing water from where it's never supposed to be. Dewatering is removing water from where it is supposed to be, but you have to remove it for some reason.
20 years later the pumps where ok. P250s where more finicky than the P500s, never saw a Billy run. However, our OBAs (oxygen breathing apparatus) fell apart on our faces, from dry rot. Ca148, De1085. Cheers Chris
Very interesting! I have some knowledge of portable water pumps from being a recreational goldminer. I’ve been a club menber since 2007 and have rigged up several home made systems for underwater dredging. I have always wanted to get my hands on a surplus navy pump that I heard about, (probably the P-500 mentioned) it was manufactured by OMC or Evinrude. It’s been said that its engine is a modified outboard motor. Engine. Great stuff, this!
I took a slide rule class in college. Still have an aluminum and a bamboo slide rules along with the book. Bamboo slide rules were supposed to be more accurate because of less expansion and contraction.
Funny. My father called it "dewatering" and he served in the 50s. I served in the 80s and it was also called "dewatering." I also learned the Handy Billy and the P250.
Would be cool to see just how well this is implemented in trying to raise a sunken ship in shallow water like they did back in WW2 at Pearl Harbor. Also a fire suppression video would be nice to see as well.
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My first instructor was Philippino. P2pipty pump! Always remembered that. Great guy just sounded funny. Awe puk you.... Note: proper doning of dogfood bowls. 4.0
I worked with a Philippino electrician. He told me, "Go to the tool room and get the Coleslaw!" "Closlaw?That guy's crazy I said!" " It took me a week to figure out that he wanted a "Hole Saw"!
9:34 "4 banger 2 stroke" wow..... ive got a 900cc, 3 cylinder, 2 smoker in my jet ski..... and it sounds MEAN and hauls ass a 4 cylinder must sound crazy!
It is to be said that induction pumps, while clever are quite ingenious, are so counter intuitive at first glance. "So we're going to get water OUT of a space where we don't want water by pumping water INTO said space?"
Since unwater and dewater have been commented upon a few times here's a little history of words. Do you dedo an error or undo a mistake? :) Un- is the modern spelling and pronunciation of the Old English on- prefix. It has been used in English as a privative (meaning it reverses the meaning of the word to which it is attached) for over 1000 years. De- comes from the Latin where it was, amongst other things, also a privative functioning like un-. De- was imported into English via French which itself was derived from Latin. So, we undo a mistake because do and un- both evolved from Old English and, being so useful and common and simple, they haven't changed much. (Mistake is itself from Old Norse but that's still a Germanic language like Old English, and take comes Old English so it works here.) However, we could de-effect an error. (Effect and error are from Latin, with the 'fect' part meaning to make or to do. I don't know if anyone uses de-effect commonly. We do use defect for something lacking or made poorly. Curiously, we also use unaffected where un- is from Old English yet affect is from similar Latin roots to effect, so it's a hybrid.) Since water comes from Old English, unwater is a perfectly sensible, and arguably the more correct, term. I think confusion arises because nowadays some people appear to have the idea that, especially where the sane word can be prefixed by un- and de-, un- means without, and de- means had a change made/had a property reversed. For example, some people might say an unwatermarked video is a video that has no watermark in it, regardless of whether it was made without a watermark or it it had one removed. (Compare this with unwater-marked paper. Unwater-marked paper is paper that is made without a water-mark, not paper that has had a water-mark removed.) A dewatermarked video is explicitly one that had a watermark but that mark was removed. An unwatermarked video might be a watermarked video that was dewatermarked. This is is probably easier to understand than: an unwatermarked video is a watermarked video that has been unwatermarked (using unwatermarked in two different but correct ways) .
Huh, I thought that at some point they would close all doors to a flooded compartment and pump in pressurized air to push the water out through the same hole it came in.
Running a gas motor indoors may cause toxic gas buildup... This is almost as obvious as flooding may sink a ship. If you have to explain this... Do not leave that sailor untended.
FYI: Unwatering is removing water from where it's never supposed to be.
Dewatering is removing water from where it is supposed to be, but you have to remove it for some reason.
Watched this in the sea scouts about '67-68. Bet a lot of this stuff is still current. I just Tripped over this.
60 years later i was using th same PeriJet pumps and electric submercble pump in the Aussie navy... Not broke dont fix it! 👍
There's something to be said (a great deal actually) for a piece of heavily-tested and reliable gear!
20 years later the pumps where ok. P250s where more finicky than the P500s, never saw a Billy run.
However, our OBAs (oxygen breathing apparatus)
fell apart on our faces, from dry rot.
Ca148, De1085. Cheers Chris
Very interesting! I have some knowledge of portable water pumps from being a recreational goldminer. I’ve been a club menber since 2007 and have rigged up several home made systems for underwater dredging. I have always wanted to get my hands on a surplus navy pump that I heard about, (probably the P-500 mentioned) it was manufactured by OMC or Evinrude. It’s been said that its engine is a modified outboard motor. Engine. Great stuff, this!
I took a slide rule class in college. Still have an aluminum and a bamboo slide rules along with the book.
Bamboo slide rules were supposed to be more accurate because of less expansion and contraction.
Funny. My father called it "dewatering" and he served in the 50s. I served in the 80s and it was also called "dewatering." I also learned the Handy Billy and the P250.
Thank for your service sir.
I've only heard of dewatering in mining. Unwatering maybe specific to offshores
I'm in now. I'm not a deck rate or anything but I believe it's still called dewatering.
Its still called dewatering
4:09 - the old faithful buckets 😅
Would be cool to see just how well this is implemented in trying to raise a sunken ship in shallow water like they did back in WW2 at Pearl Harbor. Also a fire suppression video would be nice to see as well.
Here you go Blue Jacket. ua-cam.com/video/QhVC-xvr2Vg/v-deo.html Enjoy. ua-cam.com/video/iplSc0TCcvA/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/zLyBO_7Xbqk/v-deo.html I know I am getting a bit carried away. :)
I was hoping to see methods of stopping water intrusion as well.
"Flooded compartments have sunk ships" Well duuuhhh!
Oh really do you think !!😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
A water pump that works on water pressure. Great idea
I was the DCPO on my last ship. It's called dewatreing the compartment!
Why are you trying to claim copyright on a public domain film? As a work of the US government, this is NOT copyrightable.
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My first instructor was Philippino.
P2pipty pump! Always remembered that. Great guy just sounded funny.
Awe puk you....
Note: proper doning of dogfood bowls.
4.0
I worked with a Philippino electrician. He told me, "Go to the tool room and get the Coleslaw!" "Closlaw?That guy's crazy I said!" " It took me a week to figure out that he wanted a "Hole Saw"!
9:34 "4 banger 2 stroke"
wow..... ive got a 900cc, 3 cylinder, 2 smoker in my jet ski..... and it sounds MEAN and hauls ass
a 4 cylinder must sound crazy!
Love that PeriJet 😎
Guys we're taking on water pretty fast. I looked up this video, I'll let you know how we go
I laughed out loud when he let the venturi thing slurp up a rag and then what looked like a dang wooden board
I work in hydroelectric powerhouses and we "dewater" regularly...
"Condition Yoke is No Joke"!
It is to be said that induction pumps, while clever are quite ingenious, are so counter intuitive at first glance.
"So we're going to get water OUT of a space where we don't want water by pumping water INTO said space?"
Since unwater and dewater have been commented upon a few times here's a little history of words.
Do you dedo an error or undo a mistake? :)
Un- is the modern spelling and pronunciation of the Old English on- prefix. It has been used in English as a privative (meaning it reverses the meaning of the word to which it is attached) for over 1000 years.
De- comes from the Latin where it was, amongst other things, also a privative functioning like un-. De- was imported into English via French which itself was derived from Latin.
So, we undo a mistake because do and un- both evolved from Old English and, being so useful and common and simple, they haven't changed much. (Mistake is itself from Old Norse but that's still a Germanic language like Old English, and take comes Old English so it works here.)
However, we could de-effect an error. (Effect and error are from Latin, with the 'fect' part meaning to make or to do. I don't know if anyone uses de-effect commonly. We do use defect for something lacking or made poorly. Curiously, we also use unaffected where un- is from Old English yet affect is from similar Latin roots to effect, so it's a hybrid.)
Since water comes from Old English, unwater is a perfectly sensible, and arguably the more correct, term.
I think confusion arises because nowadays some people appear to have the idea that, especially where the sane word can be prefixed by un- and de-, un- means without, and de- means had a change made/had a property reversed.
For example, some people might say an unwatermarked video is a video that has no watermark in it, regardless of whether it was made without a watermark or it it had one removed.
(Compare this with unwater-marked paper. Unwater-marked paper is paper that is made without a water-mark, not paper that has had a water-mark removed.)
A dewatermarked video is explicitly one that had a watermark but that mark was removed. An unwatermarked video might be a watermarked video that was dewatermarked. This is is probably easier to understand than: an unwatermarked video is a watermarked video that has been unwatermarked (using unwatermarked in two different but correct ways) .
Im glad I know this now but not my scales
Shouldn't it be DE-watering, rather than UN-watering?
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Huh, I thought that at some point they would close all doors to a flooded compartment and pump in pressurized air to push the water out through the same hole it came in.
Wut just hit the r key, fixes all problems If not on cooldown
Running a gas motor indoors may cause toxic gas buildup... This is almost as obvious as flooding may sink a ship. If you have to explain this... Do not leave that sailor untended.
"Unwatering" - is that the same as "drying"?
First time I ever heard the term "un water"
(Even my spell checker didn't like it!)
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I see drips constantly running down this video. It needs dewatering!
Unwatering is unaccurate, after passing Grade 6.
Unwatering is technically accurate not inaccurate.
De-Watering !
Unwatering????? Has this been translated from some other language? Certainly not English!
Translated from US Navy.
My thoughts exactly. It was called "dewatering" when I went through DC training in the 80s.
It is a US Navy film... Why would it be translated?
Language constantly changed. People will laugh about your english 80 years from now.