Sonicake Rude Mouse -and- ALL THE RATS AT THE SAME TIME! -then- 4 RATS INTO 4 AMPS! -
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Sonicake sent me their rat, BUT I ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF RATS! so i plugged them all in and did some experiments before deciding which will go on the used market.
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1 - Sonicake a definite AAB winner
2 - Woodcutter is the best Rat
3 - DEWM!!!
4 - I may need to get a 4 amp rig...
I'm gonna end up buying a Rat after all of your Rat vidz, Ryan 🤣
And likely a Baritone Tele, too! 👍 Can't wait til Monday. Amazon has had the TC Electronic 3rd Dimension for sale for $39 lately so I snatched one up before they sold out again and UPS is bringing it. I'll finally have a decent chorus pedal I hope. The last one I got, a chorus/vibrato univibe style pedal, is the one that pops extremely loudly when I stomp on it. It's usable as long as you don't keep turning it on & off. That popping bugs the crap out of me though. I usually try to turn it on with the output cable disconnected so it won't pop.
Just to share….. very recently bought me an Allen Eden Black Waves distortion. Metal enclosure. LM-308 chip. Sounds like a RAT. Full, Raw, scooped settings to get your tone fatter, louder, or modern(?) Cost was $54. To be truthful, my sonicake Fazy Cream gets a ton more stomp action. Just more to offer. So, it amazes me that this little used Allen Eden pedal has a bad on/off switch. Works:Doesn’t work. Staticky. Clean. Boo!!! Just too late to be able to return, but I can likely fix the switch.
My rating would be a 2 1/2 stars
I like the wood cutter setted to low gain. I think the rat is not only a great distortion and fuzz but also an absolutely underrated overdrive.
The RAT always reminds me of Nirvana.
Graham Coxon stacked two RATs to get the Song 2 sound. I think he would be impressed at the Quad RAT tone.
I saw an interview with him where he said that he bought a second RAT pedal when he was young because he noticed that the first one made his guitar sound louder so he assumed that having another one would make his guitar sound that much louder again. He's one of my favourite guitarists to watch videos on. So self-depreciating and humble.
@The Tired Horizon I remember that one. I could watch interviews with Graham Coxon all day, such a great story-teller. And he's hilariously funny without even trying to be.
from what I heard it started out as 2 DOD Punkifiers and eventually graduated to 2 Rats
Too bad his band were shite.
I'm from São Paulo, Brazil. Do you still have those Azor Reverb pedals? Would it be possible to send me one? I'm a huge fan, 60 Cycle Hum opened my ears to sound effects. It would be a honor to me to have something of this beloved show! As always, this episode was very nice! Thank you!
Given that the down setting on the Sonicake is louder, it's probably a Turbo Rat setting, clipping with red LEDs. My Mooer Black Secret (same form factor as Sonicake and Donner) has a Turbo mode in the down position and with the lights out you can actually see the red LEDs flickering inside.
Shout out to my fellow Black Secret user
Black Secret represent. Also, does anyone else feel like the Black Secret cuts down on the low end? Or is that just every RAT? I haven’t played the og in a while
@@JoelZephead the volume difference between my normal RAT and my Turbo is massive.
@@Bellocks1 I think that’s normal, I didn’t mean volume difference between rats but low end difference between Rat and Black Secret
@@JoelZephead oh! Sorry! I always associate RAT distortion as quite trebly anyway, so I haven’t noticed a massive difference.
The Secret Ingredient to the Woodcutter is love 💘. Its built with Love 💘.
And the mojo of the greatest RAT builder of all time, Mr. Woodcutter himself
This is the best demo of pedals I've heard in a long long long time! thanks... Wood cutter on my board for sure.
Ryan, the ending of this video was absolutely foolish, yet perfectly amazing! I listen too alot of doom metal, (monolord, electric wizard, sleep, ect) and you nailed the doom tone with that baritone! My favorite video you've done to date! Haha cheers
Mans was summoning Sunn O))) with that baritone
To be honest, the sonic ridiculousness is why I come here. You never dissapoint. 100 reverbs? Let's play them all at once!!! I have more than one Rat style pedal, so let's play them all at once!!!
Yeah, I dig it.
You should do a video where you play your ring tone sounding theme tune through your affordaboard.
I picked up a Sonicake looper pedal and have been really impressed, their stuff seems like an incredible value.
I recommended the Sonicake blues breaker! Can't beat a $29 OD that sounds great.
the Echo Rain is lovely - has a modulation switch built in (like a chorus)
The Wah is a bit noisy.
I got the Sonicake Rude Mouse for 30 bucks, which was cheaper than Donner's and its well worth the money
Wood Cutter sounded larger & fuller than all of them!🐀🧀
I’m thinking 4 amps and a “baratone” setup and I will be the guy everyone in the neighborhood is talking about. Great way to meet new people.
I just got the new Joyo "Splinter" distortion pedal based on the RAT (Splinter was the rat on Ninja Turtles). I havent tried a real RAT, but the Splinter is nice and has a Fat switch and a MOSFET switch. You might want to check it out, I think its pretty cool. Thanks for the video!
Es un clon del fat-rat pedal
This is the highest form of entertainment available on any platform 😂😂
You forgot the AZOR black distortion which is a mod-Rat clone.
The Sonicake has a whiteface label while the Donnor just has teeny tiny brackets. Obviously the Sonicake sounds better because of this.
Font has a greater affect on tone than any component ever could. Only thing that's anywhere near as important as font is knob style.
Taps into Sunn O))) at the end of the video. Very fun!
Also would you make a video where you split a transparent Distortion into 1 amp, and a nasty fuzz into a 2nd amp?
Bet if you open both the Donner and the Sonicake they would be identical….they sound the same.
Yeah, wish he gave us some gut shots of those two.
Which one of the cheap pedals is best for pink floyd? I know the rat is what gilmour used in the 90s , do the cheap ones have enough fuzz ?
*In my best Butthead voice* - This is the coolest thing, I’ve ever seen.
I sold my early 90s rat with the "good" chip because I could get my Line 6 Uber Metal pedal to sound exactly like it. The jhs is cool tho
Dude I just love your videos. Idk
Love your videos Ryan! They’re always so much fun. You always look like you’re having a blast
Have you ever considered using an A/B pedal for your comparisons, the same way Josh Scott does? Just a thought.
So many Dirty Lil Rats....... If you taste one you would get the plague.... Sorry Sonicake.
If we could wire the rude mouse classic/hot switch to a latching footswitch you'd have a pretty good solo boost built in.
Woodcutter Rules!!! It sounds the most natural and balanced of all.
"I dont need that many RATS"?!?!? THAT Ryan is absolute heresy!!!
Exactly. I want a RAT on all 3 of my pedalboards and at least one extra per board just in case. Can't be caught without a RAT
@@dylandenney3980 legitimately the RAT2, Turbo, and You Dirty Rat do different things... and they do them well. I love my Turbo, if I had to choose ONE that would be it.
@@daddyosink4413 I know that's why I have a pack rat in layaway right now. It'll go on my main board, my RAT2 will move to my doom board, and I'm probably getting a lil rat for my bass board. I desperately want a Deucetone too
i'm sure it's no surprise to you after recording this video, but Sunn O))) are really big into stacking Rats into Rats. i feel like you might've subconsciously realized this when you brought the baritone out!
Nothing is more (without a unintentional incident anyway) spinal tap then sunn O)))) live, saw them open for either Celtic frost or emperor (two of the best live bands I’ve ever seen) roughly 20 years ago and pretty much laughed the entire way through sunn O)))))’s set. My ex from then brings it up a lot.
It’s your Geico commercial 😂
Damn, you’ve been busy. I thought you slacked off during the Summer NAMM and beyond. You’re still lacking and slacking but we love you.
How have I been slacking?
@@60CycleHumcast Well for starters, I don’t see new videos coming out every day. Slothfulness is frowned up by the big fella you know.
Of course I kid you Ryan, I’ve enjoyed watching your channel, and even kept watching it after you made me waste a darn postage stamp, and got nothing in return…
Someone call pest control! Too many rats up in here!
The dual Princeton amps sound cool for sure.
How are you recording them. A DI? Mics? Be curious to know what mics (or whatever) you're using to record their audio. (I am actually looking to buy a Princeton right now), so any info you can provide would be great. Thanks and nice video...
Phil
NYC Area
I use cascade fat head ribbon mics
@@60CycleHumcast Thanks for that info. Looking for a good way to get into a DAW for recording, so your info is very helpful. Of course having 2 Princeton amps is pretty cool. I love the look of the white one also...Do you EQ them differently? Thanks.
Phil
This was amazing, thank you.
I'm pretty sure the "mod" in the first pedal switches between classic rat and turbo rat with LED clipping. On my Mosky black rat the same two modes, you can even see the diodes glowing inside there. The distortion structure and volume changes, the equalization stays the same, I tested this using pink noise.
your missing the biyang mouse a chip shy of being the very original rat but then again if i want a good rat tone i just link a crunch pedal to a fuzz if i want step it up ill also add a hi gain meatal pedal to them OK, I'll try to be brief. I have owned and used RAT distortion pedals since the early 80's. I know them for what they are. The best dirt box you can get. Don't agree? Fine with me, as we all have choices and mine is the RAT. Now enter the Mouse by Biyang. This is a discontinued product from them. It does have the LM308 chip inside and is wired like a RAT. The 3-way switch is handy. Normal is like an average RAT2 pedal. The Max and Turbo positions are simply the icing on the cake as they give you more drive options. Good deal.
Inside, the board is populated with some good quality components and this is impressive. The Achilles heel here is the in and outs from this box. Being PC mounted, they are plastic barrels with metal exterior nuts to hold them in place. One can, and will, pull one apart if they're a might loose, or it will give you a weak signal if loose. Must keep them, now get this, "hand tight" as a nut driver can easily strip the plastic. Some have the correct 560 ohm resister in the filter circuit, some have a 56K instead. A mix up at the factory? Maybe, but with the 56K in there, the pedal is weak. Mine had the 560 and it sounds about 95% RAT when used.
Bottom line: This is a well built pedal (note the I/O) and has some good quality components inside. You roll the dice when it comes to the filter resistor and if you're not into electronics and can replace the 56K with the 560, and you get one with the 56K, then it's not a nice pedal. Get one with the 560 and you're golden as they say. If you like to do mods to pedals then this is a good one to do so with. It's well laid out inside and the options are many. The box is well made and has more fasteners than a small car, so it's not going to fall apart on ya barring the I/O's that was mentioned above. For the price and the potential of many mods, it's a good deal. It has a larger footprint than the RAT2. Personally, I like it because one can get the classic RAT tone and then go further with the Max and Turbo options with the switch atop the box. The prospects of mods to this unit makes me happy as I can do many things with this circuit as it's built with plenty of room for anything imaginable. this clone was made in 2013
So, ended up buying a You Dirty Rat. The Wood Cutter was my favourite but it's US$220 and I got a brand new YDR (my 2nd favourite) from my local shop for C$150 (because every buyer simply bought the Rat2 in price). Thaks for the great demo and for using a Princeton.
Awesome..lol..nice to here somebody open things up a bit..just got the packrat is an awesome pedal ,,well built,clean,excellent guitar frequency(s)Have Fender deluxe do i need two..of course i do...great work dude
especially why buy the Sonicake/Donner (and I assume Joyo) when Proco has the new Lil Rat for $70 MSRP and sounds identical to the Rat2
Rat infestation....only way to rid of this is to crank up the volume and shred hard!!! 🎸🎶
Awesome Vid, Ryan! 👍🏻
What a great way to end a video, surround yourself with a pack of screaming rats.👍🐭🐭🐭🐭
Hey Ryan! What strings gauge do you normally use in your guitars? Which one do you recommend for surf music? I've got a Mexican Fender Jaguar btw. Cheers!
Ya shoulda said the woodcutter sounded best because of the genuine LM308 IC chip then put your feet with some popcorn!
I wonder if the turbo setting would be useful for people running into clean Fender amps or using single coils. If you figure that the typical configuration for RAT users back in the day was probably something with humbuckers into a Marshall stack, you might need that turbo mode for an extra push to get you in the ballpark when you don’t have that exact equipment.
I have a Mosky Black Rat on one of my boards. I think they're all identical circuits.
Buy the JHS packrat and you got all the classics in one pedal.
Waiting for a botique company come up with The 7 Deadly Rats. Waaaay better than I expected
I agree, the Wood Cutter definitely does sound the most amp like. IMO, it has the most clarity too. Enjoyed the video Ryan.
I wish more Rat clones had the You Dirty Rat as an option, trying to find the Little Bear one for a decent price
That's a BF'in' Skynner Rat 35:28 on sounds incredible!
I got a "Rat" extermination commercial because the word rat is in the title.🤣
Why not just get all the rats in one box, gee wonder who might have made something like that?
One of them is do the job nicely. No real difference i think
15:05 I was waiting for that joke. It had to happen at some point.
The Dron‘o‘Rat Tremolo was awesome!
Love the rat2 with my squier jaguar short scale bass and peavey maxbass amp.
The studio reminds me of 8 bit guy
So the Donner & Sonicake are identical?
Witch is your favorite rat ryan?
That was one deathly baritone.
rat created for doom shit, yeah!
Man - i think that Pack Rat is amazing...
The Greer Amps Gorilla Warfare is a great Rat style distortion...as is Electrofoods Nepenthes...lots of options out there for rodent riffage.
Fun fact: Nepenthes is the genus of pitcher plants.
I got the joke Ryan
Willllll it chugggggggg?
Taste the Shark !
Rats!
James Herbert would be proud 😇
I'm proud too
The Donner looks like a rebranded Sonicake
Other way around? How long has sonicake been around?
@@DoctorRevers years
RATs are the coolest. of course i expected 7 at once to sound way more fuc ked up than that, but hey, now we know right? A+ vid.
Yes, the 7 RATS sounded remarkably tight.
What a sh*tty demo. Horrible, I sat through all of it and took a dump, and now I think I’m gonna get a rat, maybe the wood cutter. I’m gonna get those patch cables, too.
Great job dude!
Ah, to be able to spend $70 on a whim...
I think the Sonicake: and Donner are just obvs rips off the Mooer Black Secret, which I have and consider the best sounding Rat I've had, and I had a ProCo Rat 2. The Mooer is such a best seller, yet on every channel I have watched about Rats and all these new vids feat the JHS pedal, the Mooer is NEVER mentioned. Incredible. One thing that also doesn't get talked about is the Mooer runs off a normal 9v power supply but you need a different cable for the ProCos.
They are all made in the same automated pedal factory, so the Mooer, Donner, and Sonicake are probably identical.
My RAT 2 uses the standard 9v power jack
@@dylandenney3980 no "3.5mm cable - tip positive (standard)" or whatever? have they changed it? I bought a Rat 2 about 7 yrs ago and I had to sell it cos of that
Mooer got too expensive, I don't even consider them anymore.
@@solomonsanchez1897 Identical boards, but only the Mooer has the lm308. Which I honestly don't think makes a difference for the price hike. Personally I would just get a Lil Rat because the logo/enclosure are cute lol
I hate the Woodcutter ...because of why you like it ...they cleaned it up. Why??? If you want that get a Boss OD or even a MIAB. The whole point of a Rat is its big open grainy dirt. I have 2 Rats that do the Woodcutter thing and they sit on the shelf.
Frequent viewer here that got the rude and nasty 🐀 joke
I don’t know if I’m rat curious but let’s not forget Richard gere and how he’s hamster curious. Now to add to the drama use your dirty ray to create the soundtrack of those poor hamsters journey. You can use South Park footage as a reenactment of sorts.
Rat infestation shirt?