Ellen's New Stand-Up Special is... Bizarre
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Today we're looking at Ellen DeGeneres: For Your Approval. It's an incredibly bizarre piece of stand-up comedy history, as half of the special is dedicated to her removal from showbusiness. So in this video, I take a look at the controversial history of her career, her talk show, and the allegations that ultimately brought down the daytime television institution that was the Ellen DeGeneres Show. But 2 years after the show was taken off the air, Netflix has given the maligned Queen of Mean a Netflix Stand-Up Special, and we're gonna take a look and see if it's any good.
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I’m honestly surprised she didn’t just say fuck it and go full right wing lol.
I suspect she is extremely conservative in most ways, but also realizes the American right wing hates people like her and thinks her marriage is invalid. I bet she has strong opinions about single payer health care.
Give her time
She's probably waiting for Rosanne to die, so she gets all the attention.
She is in all the aspects that matter.
@@johnwrath3612 yeah I see that from her too. I figure Katelyn Jenner is trying to corner her corner of the right wing, there are gay minorities who somehow are still MAGA..just felt like it was perfect for her. N she’s rich so she might get a pass for being lesbian from them
Interesting that her argument isn't "I'm not mean," it's "I should be allowed to be mean because I'm in show business"
Girlboss tbh
Your hatchet job work, extrapolating that the presence of a toxic workplace behind the scenes of The Ellen Show meaning that it must automatically be the fault of Ellen herself is just truly not just disappointing, but infuriating. You got the ball started, and you ensured that the press would take the easy way out regarding the situation, and not dig in the right places.
You never considered the idea, nor did the staffers, that Ellen is kept in a silo by people who ensure that she doesn't see or hear about what is going on. Never consider the idea that people are going around, causing the problems, lying and claiming that "Ellen wants this," and then telling her something else, and that it's all the matter of a communication breakdown ensuring that the truth isn't coming to light.
For example, you ever see the My Little Pony episode The Mane Attraction, which features a pop star character who is perceived as snobby and difficult, but it's really her manager causing all the problems, claiming his client is responsible when she isn't, and then telling her something different? That could very well be the case with regards to Ellen.
In fact, it's especially likely when you consider the fact that Telepictures, the WB division that produced the show, has a reputation of being a boys' club, and that they have continuously caused problems on their female-led talk shows that don't happen with their male-centric ones, and always leave the female hosts on the hook. It happened in the past with Rosie O'Donnell, as they produced her show too, and helped lead to the problems regarding the magazines that led to her well-deserved truthful reputation for niceness being destroyed. In short, they did it once, they clearly did it again. "It's easy to pin everything on the lesbian."
You didn't dig or seek to hold those schmucks responsible, and just followed the path they wanted you all to, to pin everything on Ellen. And you all insist "If she just took responsibility for it all and made a real apology, it would all be done." So that's how "accountability" works now? Take responsibility for the things that aren't your fault? Things that you didn't do, but others did, and deliberately framed you for? You can't fight false allegations anymore, but are just supposed to lie down and play dead and never surface anymore, because "it's good for everyone?" All this because of...vibes?
And don't say "a real apology would solve things." If Ellen or anyone else flagellated themselves before you in person, flaying their backs with a cat-o'-nine-tails, you would say "they're not sorry enough, don't listen to them." No matter what, you'll just insist on crucifying them. "Where do I go to get my reputation back?" Nowhere.
Don Henley had it right. "Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down/Kick 'em when they're stiff, kick 'em all around."
Ellen more like yellen. Am I right
*thunderous applause
I kinda like Janet Yellen. Her macro class way back when was pretty good. So I'll pretend I've misread that as Yellin' and live happily with that.
I know, I know... just had to go off on a tangent. My moment of shame.
GOTTEM
I get it.
YEOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW😎
Im so glad u made this I did not want to have to watch an hour of Ellens standup
Luckily no-one was ever forcing you
Amateur comedian. Here. I have short jokes and half an hour of me tryna be funny
Second-hand hate watching is the best kind of hate watching ❤️
as a part of the "lesbians who consider themselves to be funny" community, ellen is not one of us because we sent her a formal complaint and letter of termination
She was also never funny
She can't sit with us.
OUCH lol
“She offends you as a lesbian?”
“No, she offends me as a comedian!”
I really totally agree with your take on Ellen and Rogan. Seems to be a running theme with these older anti-woke, poor me rich comedians who have lame, outdated material they expect all ages to appreciate today. Keep up the great work, Pat.🥰
Are you just Patrick to those who aren’t subscribed?
He's Patricia to me
the hawk tuah girl would have been on Ellen
you're right ,🫥
And unsubtlely shamed
we were robbed
I've never been so certain that something exists in an alternate timeline
So true
My mom made me sit through that show. Ellen's whole demeanor nauseated me.
I'm happy to report that I got Gaddafi on the Buzzfeed quiz, because I have a 1980s punching puppet doll of him on my bookshelf.
Its good to keep memory and likeness of the based colonel alive by displaying his likeness
You need to warn us if you're going to use the Momala clip. It causes so much pain to watch.
I think it's kinda funny, I have not seen the full context though, just the short clip
I'd take Kamala as my Momala before a proven adjudicated rapist as my "protector" 🤷🏽♀️, so I'm good with it. I think it's funny.
Ok Ellen, you make a joke about being “mean” in “mean” show business but the reason you’re hated is that you’re mean to people you perceive are below your status. You pick on people and bully them. Decent humans always treat the “small” people with respect and dignity.
She DOES treat them respect and dignity. You're deliberately missing the point, and you have to know that you're being deceptive. She's not saying "I'm supposed to be mean in show business," she's also saying, "But that's not me."
A male talk host doing far worse than Ellen has ever done would not be under attack the way she is, for things she never did, things that weren't her fault, but were done by the people at Telepictures who siloed her off, told her one thing, and told the staffers another. Exactly like Countess Coloratura in that MPL episode. Never considered that, did you?
Hearing that audience is depressing. I fear a room of circle-jerking narcissists having a literal pity party masquerading as a stand-up special
I watched as much of it as I could take(which was about ten minutes) and what I saw was an audience indulging in what I’ve heard described as clapter. It’s whenever audience feels they have to react to a joke but they can’t find the laughter so they applaud instead.
you skipped over the part where Ellen suggested that the reason she was "kicked out of show business" is because of misogyny and that if men get away with being shitty, she should have.
No, he didn't. He made that exact point when he brought it up at around the 18 minutes mark when he said her equivocating it to a man isn't an excuse
She's right though. It's a double standard. That's not an excuse, it's a fact.
@@brendajameson5093if a man built an audience on “being kind” and then behaved they way she did he would be a hypocrite just as she is.
@@tatata1543Kinda not really? Mister Rodgers could've gotten away with God knows what coasting on his image
@@tatata1543 Not true. Men with a "kind" reputation are given MORE grace - not immediately cancelled.
Did she hand pick the audience for maximum applause?
Lesbians don't know funny
I very much doubt they were chosen at random.
I was shocked that a staff member stated the audience was the loudest they’ve ever heard. I assumed that applause was added in post.
Everything about it is cringe.. The fake nervousness, the 'homely' clothes and playing the victim come first to the 'jokes'.. It's like if Harvey Weinstein came on stage and cried about prison food.
Listen I know this has nothing to do with the video but… a new Dinesh D’Souza “movie” is out in theaters right now Pat…. You know what you have to do.
I was unaware.
Thanks for ruining my day.
Damn
Razzie awards are getting ready
Nevermind I checked and he DOES actually already have a razzie award THAT HE ACCEPTED.
@@CordeliaAuroraall part of the persecution complex. If you (I mean Dinesh) claim the deep state controls all the companies, government officials, and common people, they will obviously boo and jeer your message of truth.
I do not care for that crackpot
What's it called? 2,000 mules was hilarious for all the wrong reasons but still funny
Her simplifying it to "I was mean" is so disgusting to me. No, Ellen, you weren't mean. You were abusive to multiple people for years
PAT MY HOMETOWN HAD FLAVOR AID. It's the ONLY TOWN i have found atm that has it
Is your hometown called Jonestown? i just gotta ask...
I had it when I lived in Martinsburg WV
Be kind to one another. (genuine, unlike Ellen)
(Video idea) I’m no baseball fan BUT I’d be down to hear more from you about what went down with the Oakland A’s and your thoughts
I assume Ellen talks about You Know How Awkward It Is When You're Trying To Return Your Blockbuster Video? to show how much she understands - ugh - poor people.
I enjoy your vids man. Don't let up. Cheers.
At risk of sounding overly PC or whatever, I wish we as a society could stop throwing around the "drinking the Kool-Aid" reference entirely - it suggests people blindly going along with whatever thing but as you touch on here, the people at Jonestown literally had no choice. I remember one particular quote from a survivor that was pointing out how there wasn't a line for people that wanted to drink it and another line for people who didn't. Many of them were directly murdered and injected with the stuff and as the event unfolded, I would guess that, despite what they were forced to do, very few of the victims were "drinking the koolaid" in spirit. (I hope this does not come across the wrong way and that my memory serves me correctly, I'm just oddly passionate about Jonestown for some reason.) Also since you read every comment wanted to add this is not specifically aimed at you (you clearly know all this already)!! Just something I get the urge to bring up whenever the topic arises.
Yeah from what I've heard, it was much, much more of a mass murder than a suicide. And most of the people were sold on the idea of an idealic lifestyle and forced to work and give their money to Jim Jones with no real way of escape. They especially targeted people on social security, the most financially vulnerable people. It was criminal from the start and saying the people were just stupid followers is entirely wrong. They had no idea what they were getting themselves into. Also the leaders were former nazis of memory serves and one woman who was part of the leadership got no time because she acted like she was part of the enslaved victims. It's a bad situation all around but the victims shouldn't be laughed at like idiots that willingly walked off a cliff.
not to say these people weren’t victims, they were manipulated, there was always the vague threat of violence..but to say they couldn’t leave when a group of people did actually leave (even though they were followed and attacked at the plane) seems a bit misguided.
from all i’ve seen and read it was like severe stockholm syndrome, they didn’t have to drink the koolaid but they were made to believe they did have to. There was an opportunity to leave before drinking but a lot of people were too far gone. some were 100% willingly “drinking the koolaid” and that is who the saying is talking about.
except for the children, they killed those kids first and they never had the opportunity or maturity to make that decision on their own. their parents did that to them.
I'm inclined to agree. However, I do think the term serves a strong rhetorical purpose, as i cannot think of an equally emotionally shocking way to say "gleefully participating in your own deception and self-destruction because of a misplaced but strongly held belief"
I think that's an awesome and understandable point. Unfortunately language often gets away from itself, look at "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps", which has reversed meaning from its original intent which was doing an impossible thing. I think it's really cool that you explained it in an accessible and not rude way, and I don't think you should stop or anything. I like knowing something I didn't know about before. I'm just warning you even with the best intentions the change may not happen, though I will stop using it personally.
FINALLY someone who agrees with me... This is actually one of my biggest pet peeves, it's SO disrespectful! These people were held at gunpoint -- prior to that day they didn't even know guns were on the premises! That alone shows the majority did not choose this. People were shot if they ran in the forest. Many were injected from behind and against their will. They were screaming and crying, it's all recorded. It wasnt some jubilee where Kool aid was drunk like wine and everyone was merry.
Jim Jones murdered hundreds of activists who, according to all sources, were doing a GREAT JOB building up and running that village in the forest before he got there.
What's better than flavored powdered food dye that requires a cup of sugar to be palatable?
She still doesn't understand it was the "be kind" stuff that made this so much worse. She never mentions the hypocrisy.
As a person who speaks English as a second language, I for the longest time (until 17y/o) I thought cool aid was a chemical that had the opposite effect of anti-freeze.
I was pretty confused about people saying cool aid tastes good, I thought maybe it was like how cyanide smells like almonds.
Omg that's really funny 😂 you wouldn't have been far off, antifreeze does actually taste good
@megand12345 I think I also only knew of the existence of antifreeze because of the Simpsons episode where if I'm remembering it right a chimp mother whose kids were separated from her took a liking to Bart and treated him like he was her baby and does not let him leave her enclosure. Homer puts antifreeze into an apricot or peach in order to poison the ape, but Homer ends up eating the fruit himself and I think becomes unconscious.
I am old enough to have seen Ellen when she was a completely unknown stand-up comedian. It was at a really small club in SF, and she bombed horrifically. It was very awkward and painful in such a small room. I wonder sometimes now if some of her resentment stems from all those nights grinding it out in front of crowds who didn't appreciate her (like every other comic has to experience).
If you’re really that old, you should probably think her resentment stems from when she had her show cancelled and was blacklisted for six years over her sexuality in the 90s.
@@dumbumbumbum8649 Yes, "you should probably think"
@@dumbumbumbum8649 - Except that's not what happened at all. Her show was cancelled in 1998 because, after she came out, it immediately ceased being funny. I remember vividly, because I had been a fan of it since it was called 'These Friends of Mine'. It just became completely boring after the coming out episode.
She did guest spots on 'Will and Grace' a year or so after 'Ellen was cancelled; she had ANOTHER show called 'The Ellen Show' a few years later in 2000 or 2001, that also flopped (and which NOBODY remembers because it was so bad), then she then did the voice of Nemo in Finding Nemo in 2003 before her talk show started that same year. She was NEVER blacklisted for any reason or for any amount of time, let alone because of her sexuality.
@@dumbumbumbum8649 I'm "really that old" and I think it can be both things. and that you were weirdly rude for no reason here.
Ellen truly embodies the "deposed dictator" vibe
Seems mire like the mom who has been abandoned by the children she abused and complains about it with no self-awareness every single time she hangs out with her friends.
@@brookejon3695
And all her friends vocally support her, while shooting each other discreet little 👀
Susan Sarandon got dropped from her agency for supporting Palestine and you don't see her moaning like this
An Ellen special is so two thousand LATE!
The edited Book of Mormon clip made me spit out my ramen
I'm more of an udon guy myself, but OK.
Ok but why would I listen to the soccer mom from the one bit talk for a good long while -
It’s 12:30 in the morning, I need to get up for my first day of my fall term of my first year of college in 6 and a half hours, and yet, I am watching this
Its giving very Rosanne Barr return for some reason. Like 'look how victimized I am, isnt that funny?'
isnt she billionaire? why cant ultra rich people just realise they have more money than they'll ever need and just stop their failing careers?
They could give away money day and night and never run out. Seems like they would get more approval that way.
we saw a glimpse of it during the pandemic.. they desperately need approval and attention at all times. and for number to go up at any cost!
Algorithm, let's have a talk. You and I, man to algorithm. More Pat. Good talk.
i love how thry all scream “ive been canceled” as they get paid millions for speaking on a giant platform
“I’ve been cancelled” is a much better dogwhistle than “I was found to be a creep/weirdo/abusive, and I’m suffering social consequences as a result, and I REALLY dont like that”
I was EAGERLY awaiting this. Thank you Pat for 3AM entertainment!
EDIT: That eulogy to the A’s was beautiful. I had no idea that was happening and I’m stunned. I can’t imagine watching your team ripped away from you. I’m sorry to hear that, man.
We use Kool-Aid like Kleenex or Xerox. It’s a word that covers all sugary powder drinks.
You’ve really quickly become one of my favourite channels, up there with other comfort channels I’ve had for ages like Jarvis Johnson
What I don't really understand is why it took so long before her being a shitty human being came out. Like, I'm 35, and my mom in 2005, maybe 2006 said, "Oh I don't watch Ellen anymore. She's incredibly rude to restaurant staff regularly, from what I've read."
My mom also supports Trump.
It was hard to get the word out back then because the Internet was NOTHING like it is now. The "ME TOO" movement didn't take off until 2017, people like Wienstein and Cosby got away with their behavior for several years even though it was an "open secret" in Hollywood.
Ellen was so beloved that when anyone said she wasn't so nice no one believed them because Ellen was the "Queen of Nice." You can't get away with toxic behavior now because it's easier (NOT easy) to spread the word.
Yayyy Pat is back (I hope u will forgive my use of “Pat,” as I am only a friend in that I enjoy your content)
I swear any time Whil Wheaton gets brought up these days, I think someone yelling "Shut up Wesley" at him is once more applicable. Larry David beating on Elmo was absolutely hysterical and even my young cousins, who are in the age demographic for Elmo, thought it was goofy fun.
Look, with Elmo, in all honesty, you've got to have questions about somebody well known for asking minors to tickle them.
Maybe if she partnered with Joe Rogan they could they could create a truly funny love child.
Another great vid, im so glad you started this channel. (comment for the algorithm)
Dammit why did you have to pick on Gary? lol. was just listening at that point and it broke the fourth wall for me lol. (My name is Gary)
I could watch a whole video essay on Wil Wheatons response to the Elmo thing.
christopher nolan wrote “you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain” about ellen Actually
Except Nolan wrote that about how someone's morals and ideology can be corrupted over time and Ellen was the villain the whole time but her public perception slowly changed from hero to villain
No, I'm with Wheaton on this. You don't go assaulting a beloved children's television icon as a gag. You just don't.
Who knew that strength is taking out your frustrations on people that are dependent upon you for their professional survival and then complaining about being canceled while getting paid millions of dollars to do a comedy routine?
The opening reminds me of Taylor Swift's Reputation tour where she played media portraying her as a villain, the difference is Taylor actually didn't do anything wrong
I got Muammar Gaddafi in that Buzzfeed quiz! ZENGA ZENGA ZENGA!
I was shocked when I saw her come up on my Netflix today. Mainly because most don’t care for her anymore since she showed who she really was to the world.
Pat may have uploaded at 1:30 am but I’m here 🔥🔥
I love the musical memes and clips. I need more in my life
Your life must be AMAZING if you have enough time to write a whole page complaint about an old comedian fighting a puppet on TV.
A comment a few above yours wrote several paragraphs about how lesbians are mean. 😂😂😂 People have tons of time these days!
Ok buuuut what kind of shitty restaurant fires someone for chipped nail polish? I'm not defending Ellen, I'm positing that the restaurant boss is also a villain here.
Maybe more because a very rich customer complained but yeah. Cartoon evil boss.
what if her polish got chipped after she got to work, too? I'd be like "either you're an installing a nail tech at this restaurant, or I'm not fired."
Just got a massive flashback to my friend reading it ends with us from the intro and my god I need better friends
Oh hey the Mr Birchum guy has uploaded a new video.
I'm sorry but that's who he will always be to me lol.
Comedians lose their sense of humor once they become rich
9:23 I will absolutely use that phrase from now on, thank you Patrick
I just want to know what is wrong with her audience. Are they in a cult? It’s disturbing.
My mom did not like Ellen. My mother worked and even when she wasnt at work she had MUCH better ways to use her time instead of sitting around with daytime TV.
I swear every comedian who's ever been called out for shitty behaviour proceeds to make a comedy special called 'cancelled' where they throw themselves a massive pity party and give sad eyes to the camera like their whole job isn't to be funny and make people laugh
i feel so famous im here at 10 minutes
Oh, I saw "Relateable". She spends the first 5 minutes talking about unrelatable stuff while the audience stares.
I feel like...
There's a lot worse people in show business, and people whose behavior is just accepted as normal. Like, I do not buy those stories of Ellen specifically Ellen herself's behavior as being "some of the most difficult to work with", when there's utter lunatics in TV.
Like, HOW DOES JON VOIGHT STILL GET WORK?
But it was the shock of Ellen, the "Be Kind" lady, having these moments that led to quite as much backlash.
Jon doesn't get any meaningful work. The vast majority of his time now is circling the outer rim of the Magaverse - he's toxic to the vast majority of everyone else. Francis Ford Coppola, oddly, giving him a role in his new flop was an aberration - he's otherwise never seen anywhere now except in social media screeds yelling that there are Commies sending him mind control messages through his TV, or something.
When I saw posters for Ellen in my city, they just said "Last Stand Up Show", and it really felt like a reassurance.
But is it... JoJo's Bizarre, perchance? Is this some kind of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure?
Come for the Ellen roast, stay for the Kool-Aid slander debunk (🤯), and the remaining 20 minutes of the video.
my favorite gay youtuber and there are a lot
When you said “drink the Kool Aid” I started to murmur to myself…”it was flavor aid!” So when you started to defend Kool Aid’s reputation and dispel the whole Jonestown thing I let out a nice audible cheer.
never read Percy Jackson, but I was a Greek mythology kid and Medusa was (and still is) my favorite story ever. it's actually really sad. Medusa was a priestess in one of Athena's temples. she was then s3xually assaulted by Poseidon in Athena's temple, and for some unfathomable reason Athena was like "how dare you, you had s3x in my sacred temple when you were supposed to be a virgin priestess, I'm going to turn you into a horrible monster." when Medusa's sisters, Stheno and Eurayle, tried to help Medusa, they were also turned into gorgons (the name for the hideous beasts with snakes for hair that Medusa had previously been turned into) although they didn't have the whole turning people to stone thing. it's actually a horribly tragic story about a woman who was abused and then blamed for it and punished severely for the actions of a literal god.
so sad to learn Athena isn't a girl's girl. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the (g)rapey father tree huh
Gotta love the victim complex from wealthy and powerful people that will always be wealthy and powerful.
Did someone go into her bank and take all her money, property and investments?
Yikes it's too early for that much hair. Are you related to Robin Williams? He was a famously hairy comedian.😅
Unpopular opinion as a gay man myself - I never found Ellen particularly funny or interesting. She just wasn’t that funny ever INMHO.
I'm not sure what old Ellen DeGeneres stand up you watched, but that's how I remember her act. It was never happy.
It's that her screen personality and her actual personality didn't match at all. Howard Stern gets to do his type of thing, because he spent decades cultivating a fanbase who are into that. Ellen cultivated a fanbase who are not into her things.
Are "comedy specials" just a coping tool for disgraced celebs now?
Honestly it's the best way to vent out anger, I just don't have enough money or influence to have a bigger crowd than my geckos... And that's for the best.
Between this and the Joe Rogan “special,” I’m inclined to agree with you lol
@@johntodd6413*starts calculating cost of ongoing therapy vs hiring crowds*
I always despised her talk show and could never figure out why people thought she was nice when all of her “jokes” were humiliating people with no money lol like really
You could always tell Ellen was fake by the dancing. Ain't no way you love to dance and dance all the time and still dance like that after all those years
seeing that subscribed viewer percentage tick a little bit higher with each new video always makes me smile :)
also fuck john fisher
I like this guy
4:28 reminded me that I, a trans masc, was a Harry Potter kid :(
Same. So glad I got out of that phase lmao
The Angela clip is so goated LMAO, sadly BB died this year when Tucker was evicted.
Bro, why do you decide to upload at 1AM ?
I love how Pat really does read all the comments. If you pay attention you'll catch it 😉
I was fully expecting the “cancelled” to right wing grift pipeline
You had me at the "complicated" line about the middle east. 👍🏾
The Angela BB26 reference!! RIP to a queen 😭😭😭😭
Great breakdown, don't have netflix, too much of this, comedy is dead except youtube, you rock, also Ellen's comment that everyone is on the spectrum is offensive dumbassness. Hey, at least she's not Rogan, I guess.
Comedy is absolutely not dead. The netflix specials of out-of-touch millionaires do not represent the scene in any way.
Comedy is funny. Rich people whining to large audiences isn't comedy.
What you mean to say is that things that aren't comedy aren't comedy.
remember her as dory? I think she's still just as clueless.
thank you for informing me about the koolaid problem
The 'applause for your age' joke is a Louis CK joke.
Well I got Mohamed Morsi, for whatever it's worth
2003-2022. That is a long run for a network to finally cancel based on the host being “mean”. There has to be more to the story. The egocentrism and entitlement in Hollywood is off the charts crazy so it’s not surprising.
The ratings were nosediving.
I've been so excited waiting for you to cover this
In b4 the inevitable copy strike 😭😭