Whoever wrote the line "I didn't know the cost of being pretty was your mind!" deserves a gold star. Wonderful writing, not too on the nose... very subtle. 10/10
i remember reading the first book of this series in 8th grade and i took this literally and pictured the characters as well... "ugly" up until i got to the point that clarified they were average in appearance and were just presumed to be ugly by Society until getting the surgery. but for that brief period i noticed my own judgment towards characters i pictured as being "ugly" and realized that said something about my own biases, and vanity in a way that made me earnestly self reflect. i feel like the fact the characters are not actually "ugly" in any meaningful sense kind of dulls the point the series could've made in quite a profound way. and of course, the live action characters are played by conventionally attractive people.
I read this book trilogy in like 8th grade. I remember really liking it. Its been years since I read it so I don't know if it still holds up. Just a minor correction. "Uglies" refers to anyone who hasn't had the pretty surgery. They aren't meant to look Ugly, just normal.
Yeah, a lot of people seems to miss that the actors casted are pretty on purpose, its a (really on the nose) critic on how even the pretty people are considered "ugly" and needed to change themselves in a society with such a high beauty standard
I read it in 8th grade too! All I remember is that I kinda liked it, but disliked the protagonist. And I haven’t watched the movie or even this video yet, lol
@@paulovitorsouzanunes4854I think the main criticism is that the point is so on the nose that it kinda fails as a metaphor and just isn’t clever. If the message of the movie is that outward beauty isn’t important, the message doesn’t resonate very well from people who are conventionally good looking. Kinda like listening to a billionaire telling you money isn’t important while remaining a billionaire.
@@daveyellick6685 oh, i agree, the delivery of the metaphor is utterly ridiculous, funny even, but all of the criticisms i heard until now are in the lines of "they arent even ugly" wich doesnt correspond to "this metaphor is shit and on the nose", i think most people just got the metaphor fly over their heads
Hollywood could never make Uglies work because Hollywood is what Uglies is making fun of. A better way to adapt this would have been an animated movie. The Uglies are drawn in standard western style while Pretties are drawn as anime characters.
@@Zarastro54there’s 2 types roughly speaking, one is less anatomical (think noodle arms and exaggerated shapes) with a focus on fluidity and distinction between characters over any realness. For examples look at adventure time, Chowder, Phineas and Ferb, or Amazing world of gumball. For the other type you have more standard proportions with characters usually following a base outline for ease of animation, and follow a simple realistic design with little to no real extra attachments or flair. I’d say look at the majority of adult cartoons, especially adult sitcom cartoons for this. Obviously there will be extravagance in this kind, but for the general set of characters it’s very uniform.
They didn't call it "Uglies Part 1" because that convention doesn't match that case. The movie seems to adapt the whole first book. So. It's not the first part of the adaptation of the book called "Uglies". It's the same reason they didn't called the second Hunger Games movie "The hunger games Part 2" and they used the title of the second book to refer to the movie adapting the second book.
It's too bad because, if handled well, I feel like this concept would have had some potential to be interesting if it really leaned in to absurdism and satire. In the right hands, it could even become commentary on something like eugenics or how ideologies (like fascism) create false and unachievable biological hierarchies where someone always needs to be the "undesirable" or "degenerate" at the bottom of the pyramid. Beauty standards are also really strange when you think about them. What do you mean some people are turned off if someone's nose is at a specific angle and size? Thats wild. I mean, there was a time where people thought tuberculosis was super sexy. And then there's the whole concept of pushing beauty standards onto literal children... I could go on but its a topic that has a lot of meat that the writers just ignored in favour of a script that would have felt cliche back in the 2010's
Honestly if you want a good story that touches on this concept the hunger games does a good job at it, especially the first book which was a criticism of Hollywood’s treatment of children. In that you have a whole realm of people that actively push in the absurdity of beauty with the capital.
I’m confused as to why they call them “uglies”. If everyone gets this surgery at 16, then aren’t all the pre-surgery people just “kids”? Why would anyone come up with a new term in this situation? “Ugliness” would just become part of the concept of “child”.
no, kids and uglies are separate categories in this world. people become 'uglies' once they begin puberty- thus losing the smooth skin and cuteness of children
It's crazy how the very premise of this movie shows how incredibly predictable the YA dystopian genre was. This movie is a damn time capsule. An anachronism.
The Giver made note that they were one of several colonies, and also noted that there are alternatives; this is because the book proposes what would happen if Nazi's managed to maintain control and build their utopia. That's why there's only one race. The basic idea of the society is removing the need to choose and thus the ability to question doing what you're told.
Yeah that book does do a better job of acknowledging the absurdity of the situation. It’s not that they didn’t want to see race so they got rid of color it was literally they didn’t want to see color for fear of there being a choice that could come with it even if it was as simple as do I eat the red apple or the green apple. Hell they got rid of weather and seasons because it lead to people feeling it helped/hurt them in some way, or at least that’s what we are told. Every kind of difference was taken away because it made it “more fair.”
1) I'm thirty-one, read this book in middle school, and when I saw a bunch of videos dunking on this movie in my recommended feed (the first time I knew they were even adapting the movie) thought, "Huh, that's funny. Why wait until *now* to make an adaptation? Who is this even for?" 2) Joey King has such a strange and inconsistent filmography. It's not that she's never done/been in anything good, it's just that it feels like her agent is playing Russian Roulette with her career. 3) I have nothing against Laverne Cox, but it did make me feel weird that a trans woman was cast as a nefarious adult who forces teenagers into life-altering surgeries during an election year in which trans people are thrown into a culture war with that kind of misinformation. I don't think it was intentional on the part of the people making this adaptation at all, just not something I could quite ignore. 4) I think a lot of people were more interested in Tally's relationship with Shay than Tally's canonical romantic interests. I was. 5) I hear this criticism a lot of the film--why call it The Uglies if the actors/actresses aren't ugly? I haven't seen the movie but I'm kind of surprised that I keep hearing it because it's pretty straightforward in the book: they're *not* ugly. They're non-augmented people who haven't yet been conformed into a mandatory plastic surgery that turns them into a homogenous standard of people who are all unsettlingly attractive in a uniform way (that carries some racist/antisemitic implications on the beauty standards for the Pretties.) There's a moment in the book in which Tally's browsing a magazine from the Before Times in which she looks at pictures of models and movie stars and still finds them unattractive because they don't fit a genuinely impossible standard that is corrected by the surgery. Maybe an animated adaptation would've made this message come across better? Goodness knows the weird IG filter doesn't help.
16:27 I'm sure the point you were trying to make here is that there are differences in how peer enforced heteronormativity presents itself across gender lines, but what you actually said is that girls don't worry about being accused of queerness while in their teenage years and just. No. Not true. Being a closeted lesbian in high school was not fun and was extremely anxiety inducing.
Wow, this unlocked a memory. I remember reading this trilogy (Uglies, Pretties, & Specials) maybe two decades ago. I can't imagine why they thought they could resurrect this series for a modern audience.
@@mc5967"I had an idea for a new show!" "Great, that's why we hired you! What's your idea based on?" "Based on..? It's MY idea" "Great but what did you base it on?" "What do you mean?" "I mean is it an old TV show? A book? An old Movie?" "No, it's a NEW idea!" "You're fired."
It's so weird, because when the book came out in 2005, a lot of technology was more futuristic instead of just More Future Snapchat Filters, and the kind of brainless, party all the time, beautiful people living lavishly and not really caring about anything Pretties were actually almost jarringly odd back then, but now we call them Social Media Influencers. The book WAS a deeper look at this type of thing, when the concepts in the book were actually interesting and new ideas, which is why, even if the book was more accurate to the book instead of Netflixified into the same bland YA Dystopia Book to Movie adaptation formula. Basically, this movie gave the book the Pretty surgery from this movie, where it just makes you generically yassified and mostly brain dead.
I wasn't expecting a review of Uglies from you buddy. Nice one. I recommend to watch Netflix's previous Bomb: The Prom. You're likely gonna hate it and rant about it in a video. Or like it. I just wanna see a video of it made by you.
I struggled with this movie. Like down every plot path, it just was like this makes no sense. Advanced technical society can't find people in the woods? Dr. Cable needs a 16 yr old to find them? Are the smoke people nomadic? They get parents to raise them? Everyone under 16 is raised in the dorms? No one in the Pretty City knows that the enivronmental collaspe would end the world? The necklace wasn't tracking her already? It had to break before a signal could be sent? We have that technology right now... Like some people die in the pretty surgery? That happens now, in routine procedures, that's the risk. If Shay isn't into Tally why does she get super jealous of her with David? How did she get into the penthouse? She was allowed to sneak into the lab and then Pretty City folks were like here's your amazing room and belongings! I wish I would have seen this before I watched it myself. That's 2 hrs of my life I'll never get back. btw Great videos. I give it 2/5 Birchum's.... Uglies, not your video... (this vid is 5/5 Birchum's.)
5/5 Birchums we absolutely take those haha. Yeah generally in my experience it's good when a movie raises questions, but not when those questions are "none of this makes any sense at all."
IIRC, the genetically modified flowers in the book were a rare ornamental flower which was genetically modified to grow faster. It only took over the landscape by accident.
Sadly, I watched this review after having already watched uglies earlier this week. I agree with your review, all parts. The movie was just disappointing, and had a bunch of spots where I reacted out loud with things like “WTF???”. This movie seems like a poor ripoff on Equilibrium (that’s a movie you should review!), combined with pretty much any angsty YA movie of the last 10 years. I also thought that Tally and Shay were pretty obviously heading for a great lesbian relationship, and then later felt that Tally and David’s relationship felt fake vs her friendship/love interest with Shay. There were other points that broke me, while watching it - like realizing that 25-yr olds are playing as 16 year olds, or that how the f-k could you have a solar powered helo??? Or - if the pretty city has all of that tech for flying vehicles - and they see David and his group as a threat? They could carpet bomb them in a morning session and not even be late for lunch. And the greenscreen/cgi moment on the hoverboards on the course - that made me also WTF out loud, it looked like a sped up video game animation. Anyway, agreed - this movie was very disappointing, and I only watched it because netflix promoted it. And your video review is pretty awesome.
The book is a lot better with the concept, like the whole lesbian thing didn't exist in the book (I'm a lesbian myself and I don't see it in the book) and David was always meant to be the love interest. Also, in the book, they wanted to capture David and his group because they didn't like that they weren't under their control, not because of some weapon
yeppp I agree with you here. My perspective? There’s still value in watching movies that we end up disliking, even we end up disappointed, because we solidify our own taste and become better storytellers as a result, a skill useful in life even if you’re not personally not making movie. (or at least this is what I tell myself to cope with having spent 20+ hours of my life watching, writing, and editing something tied to a bad movie lol)
@@myfriendscallmepat - You have a good point. I’m a believer in that you can’t know what you like or love, unless you know what you dislike or hate as well; as you need something to judge against.
Love your videos pat. Wanted to chime in. The reason probably for waiting till 16 is there is enough frontal lobe and cortex development to target specific personality changes but there isnt so much future development in the brain to cause a rejection in the surgery in high numbers. If you did the surgery earlier, the plasticity of the brain might heal the area enough to not have the population controling effect they desire.
Oh I knew fundamentally there was a logical reason lol but I was assuming in the world of magical flowers I could bend the rules a tad. Thanks for the comment :)
In a film review, you call it VFX (Visual Effects) nor graphic design. A graphic designer designs elements of the title sequence, credits and other on screen graphics (for example when a news broadcast is show, the TV logos and transitions are graphic design). Visual effects are all encompassing, it includes CGI and practical effects. If you wanted to specifically critique the CGI, you'd say digital VFX, or computer VFX. I'm sure that many of the artists who worked on this terrible film are in fact talented and skilled in their art, but you've got to pay the bills somehow.
Yeah I saw this with the Birchum stuff, you can be as talented as you want but the key resources you'll always run into are gonna be how much budget and time is allocated for you to perform your best work. (And in my opinion I always get terrible video quality from streaming regardless of the quality of the original work). But thanks for the correction, I'll try to absorb it for future reference
If anyone wants to see an actually good movie with commentary on beauty standards (specifically, beauty standards that exist for women), you HAVE to go see The Substance!!!
I’d recommend checking out Final Girl Studios, she does a lot of videos covering movies with cool themes about beauty and the transition from girlhood to womanhood, you can get a lot of good film recs that way
So, I actually worked as a form of Teaching Assistant and sat in a class, where they read this book and discussed it. I was amazed that they made a film adaptation of it at all, to be honest. But honestly, it feels like the film adaptation is lacking what a lot of film adaptations lose from the book. A lot of Uglies is about the introspective of the characters. What being a pretty means to them and the mystery of what's going on with the friends who left them. I actually think this aspect of the books is relatable, because she spends so much time thinking about her friends who are pretty now and then she finds them and they don't remember her and the things that mattered and still matter to her just don't. I saw this as sort of allegorical of what it can be like, if you have older friends, who move onto college, without you and by the time you see them again, they've basically moved on and outgrown you. Whether that was intentional or not, the fact that I even thought that, whilst helping a dyslexic kid keep up with the story kind of highlights what I mean. I felt it was a story that was incredibly basic and wasn't very strong but it was more about the emotions of the characters and their processing of the world they were in. Was it the greatest thing I've ever read? No. Do I think that the merits of the book have been lost in this rushed adaptation that is trying to steal the Maze Runner audience, that no longer exists? Yes.
You forgot to mention that Shay leaves Tally a cryptic string of clues to lead her to the smoke camp. It consists of Tally riding a rollercoaster track on her hover board and losing control, accidently crashing onto a railway, that was the next clue in the string. She literally STUMBLES across on the tracks. Then she interprets "make the worst mistake" as "I should jump off this cliff". Let's not even mention the fact that Shay had never been to the smoke camp before, so how did she know how to guide Tally there? It didn't even ACTUALLY lead her to the camp, it lead her to a flower field that was scheduled to be set on fire by the smoke where David just happens to find her amidst a roaring fire and again it was pure dumb luck that she literally stumbled across this location like she did with the train tracks. So much of the movie simply made no sense. It's like it was written by a 13 year old girl.
7:06 This was a really interesting thing in the book, and the movie butchered it! The flowers weren't modified to be renewable! They were rare flowers modified to grow much faster so that they would be easier to cultivate, but they grew too fast and took too many nutrients, so anywhere they grew, they spread like wildfire and stripped the land of its resources so much that eventually even the flowers themselves died, leaving barren dirt. They're supposed to be unsustainable, and probably a metaphor about how taking something unique and mass producing it ruins it or something! It's late and I can't remember the metaphor, but it was so much better in the book, and the movie butchered something that would have been so easy to include!
I hate when people try to excuse things being poorly written as "Oh, it's for children!". Unlike what a lot of people think, children DO know when something sucks.
In the books, Shay has a crush on David and conveys that to Tally, leading to some tension, but that's a bit bleh and stale. Meanwhile in the movie, they seemed to understand a "friends fighting over the same guy" plot-line would be boring, ONLY TO CONVERT THAT INTO "Tally has to pick between two guys" WHICH IS SILLY SINCE PERIS ISN'T REALLY A CHARACTER IN THE BOOKS IN THAT WAY? I'm happy to have more Peris, but essentially sidelining him to a potential love interest with a hinted redemption arc is so boriiiiiiiing, when Tally has infinitely more chemistry with Shay. Honestly, if they continue these movies, having Tally be with David as a sorta comphet situation, only to eventually end up with Shay would be how I'd do....I mean, Tally literally goes through a major operation that changes her brain chemistry, all for the chance to reverse Shay's Pretty procedure....GAY AS HELL, IMHO!!!
You know, one of the reasons I really dislike almost all war movies is that in real war nobody is pretty. In real war people are dirty, malnourished, gaunt. Nobody in a real war looks like a Hollywood star which is why watching Tom Hanks, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt etc. play in war movies always feels like an involuntary glorification of war. I never thought I would have almost the exact problem with a YA teen drama, albeit with much lower sakes. A difference in quality but a sameness in kind.
11:46 you’re literally gonna make me cry /hj- I got diagnosed with intractable (not easily managed with meds) myoclonic epilepsy just 2 months before I was old enough to start driver’s training (14 yr 9 mo in my state) And since then I’ve gotten like six 24-hour long EEGs and have tried several different doses of four different medications and I’m still not seizure free. I don’t notice my seizures anymore, but if just one eyelid flutter is caught on an EEG it sets back the time I can start driving And oml I just started taking daytime classes at the community college and the campus is across town, so I have to take two buses home and the nearest bus stop is still a mile away from my damn house. Today I walked a mile uphill in like 70 degree heat (too hot for this time of year in this place) and I wanted to die I envy literally anyone my age with a license yall are so lucky Anyway thanks for listening to my rant 💕
I enjoyed this movie personally because I expected from it nothing more than a silly generic YA dystopia. I read this trilogy a few years ago when I was depressed and found it, well, fine, silly but enjoyable and it helped me kill time. When I found out about the movie I was like oh so my mind didn't make this up- It was fun and nostalgic experience. A lot looked like I imagined in the book, I liked how they pulled the "pretty but scary" thing with the Specials. I am cringe but I am free
Have done that once or twice after getting back from the bars, there are definitely parts that aged poorly but overall it did bring me back with a heavy dose of nostalgia
20:23 You have to give credit to the movie/book here. We live in an economic model that 1) continues with practices that destroy the planet even though there are efficient/ecological alternatives to them and 2) capitalism crushes any and all systems that are minimally opposed to it, small producers and traditional communities, for example, are victims constants of large companies. So the logic behind the government in the film is unfortunately very close to reality.
Netflix isn’t done with Scott Westerfeld, they’re making an anime adaptation of “Leviathan” with Studio Orange, a YA Steampunk novel from 15 years ago (really betting the farm on old media here) where the original fans are now 30 years old and if you thought “Uglies” was queerbaiting, well, ok it’s not technically that but, you really need to read it to know what I’m talking about. (Or not. You don’t need to read it)
Netflix making a movie called “Uglies” sounds like the reaction from Cuties made Netflix look for anything they could find named Uglies and just picked this because of the name.
The reference to the Trap trailer made me laugh way harder than it had any right to! Now I want a video about it! Please, I beg of you, that movie is literally one of my all time "so bad it's good" favorites!!!
I really love Trap, maybe when it comes out on streaming I'll revisit it. It definitely isn't objectively good, but I had a great time watching it. Like Twisters.
commentary is getting better and better keep it up pat! also best most real review on this movie. you articulated my feelings towards it perfectly. everyone’s giving it a pass imo
I really wish I had seen this video before watching this film. Also you were absolutely spot on with the whole "they are definitely vibing with each other with Tally and Shay". Then suddenly it's all David all the time out of nowhere.
Finding this channel has been one of the better things I've discovered this last month. Also, is the book somewhat inspired by that awesome Twilight Zone episode?
Glad you're here my friend! I don't know if there was any direct inspiration from the Twilight Zone episode, but IMO I think at least on a subconscious level it had to be there. That episode is one of the most influential pieces of media to come out of the Twilight Zone and that era of media in general. Especially things that talk about beauty, society, conformity, etc. In any event, I'd still recommend people watch that before they watch Uglies lol, if they watch it at all.
This book was good when I was 12 and super into it. And maybe just for it being early 2000s in general. If they had made this movie then it would have been decent, but literally all I can think of is that it went the way of the Artemis Fowl film adaptation
You mentioned the music and I had this flashback to watching Starship Troopers and discovering later that the cool future prom dance song is in face just a David Bowie cover with the tiniest bit of sci-fi flavor added to the lyrics.
You need a glowing wand for the heart lol About Gypsy I think she got jail time because they were able to show that she knew right from wrong. She knew murder was a crime and had access to reach out and escape her abuser without plotting murder. And also part of it was covering up the murder. It was all totally messed up and she was a victim in a horrible situation.
Pat, I adore your obscure references so much, never stop doing them! Considering energy, solar panels and wind farms are not really efficient. And still harmful for the environment all the same, due to manufacturing and recycling. The most efficient alternative energy source is atomic energy. No it is not dangerous, especially with modern technology, just don't build it in earthquake prone areas, have enough staff and train them well. No, the leftover stuff is not that much and can be safely disposed of and there are recycling technologies in the works.
You're so right about "telling a complete story within a movie even if part of a multi-move arc" - that's FUNDAMENTAL. Hence why the two most recent examples, Fast X and the Casting of Frank Stone pissed me the eff off.
This movie wouldn't even hold up during the time when YA novels were being adapted into movies. They already didn't really have much to go on with world building, at least in the first book (which I'm rereading because I loved the book). I like the concept and it's definitely something that fits in today's society that if you don't look a certain way, you're ugly, but they didn't do a good job with that
Gotta say I appreciate all the reviews of stuff that I probably was never going to watch but had a morbid curiousity about. I don't envy the task of subjecting yourself to this stuff and the least I can do is show thanks.
I started watching this when the video came out. Got frustrated, went and speedread the book again to check my nostalgia blindness, and finally finished the video. Obviously most of the criticisms are fair and I agree with them, but I feel like a lot of the people watching and reviewing this movie aren't giving it the suspended disbelief and benefit of the doubt that book adaptations need. Why don't the energy flowers make sense? Well, unfortunately, that's explained in the third book of the series. Books have the luxury of holding some of the world building to their chest for future installments in a way that movies can't get away with, but if they sat us down to explain all the context we finally get in Pretties, Specials, and maybe even Extras, the movie would be bloated and exposition heavy. There's not really any winning and while I don't think the movie is Artistic or Necessarily Good, I think it's a faithful adaptation that, while lacking anything resembling a beating heart, is making an effort to get across a story that's extremely dated at this point. Great review! Really made me think about the film critically and got to revisit a childhood favorite that was so much worse than I remembered. In the unlikely event it gets a sequel, please GOD I hope they don't put in Shay's Pretty Cult and the infamous snowy soccer field scene.
Explaining basic world building elements in the third book of a trilogy is a mistake. The movie (and I guess the first book) failed to make the society shown feel functional. We know how teenagers are treated in that society and pretty much nothing about everything else. Where does the power of Special Circumstances come from? Where are they getting their food and water? Where are the adults? How does that society relate to work? Anything that explain how that society actually works. As it's shown in the movie, that society works by magical means. But there's no magic in that world. It's hard to suspend disbelief when basically nothing gets explained about that world. In "the Hunger Games" how Panem works as society is pretty clear from the beginning of the first book. We know Panem got created by war. The Capitol represent the winners of that war. We have a sense where Snow got his power. Panem as a society get their resources from violently exploiting the people from the districts. And I could go on and on. But the reality is that "Uglies" failed completely to make that society feel real, because it didn't do any of that work. All I know it's the magic flower exists and the procedure exist and a city where people go to do nothing when they are 16 and take the procedure exists and adults are somewhere doing something unexplained. That's not enough world building.
I absolutely shrieked "FFS!" when the "you're beautiful" line was uttered. This could have been a campy good time but it's so ineptly written and directed it's just a slog. Only Laverne Cox knows what she got herself into. And she's the best part of this.
I am fascinated by terrible worldbuilding, because it's such a fertile ground for the imagination to point out every flaw and follow through with every logical strand left arbitrarily unaddressed as the whole thing falls apart.
"erm actually the uglies aren't supposed to be ugly theyre just supposed to look like normal people but--" If I have to watch another movie where the main theme is about self-love and body issues where some of the actors are also MODELS ima jump off a cliff
As a fan of the books, back in the day, I am baffled that this movie would be made now. The YA dystopia trend is in the odd spot of being too old to be relevant, but not old enough to cash in on nostalgia.
Whoever wrote the line "I didn't know the cost of being pretty was your mind!" deserves a gold star. Wonderful writing, not too on the nose... very subtle. 10/10
i remember reading the first book of this series in 8th grade and i took this literally and pictured the characters as well... "ugly" up until i got to the point that clarified they were average in appearance and were just presumed to be ugly by Society until getting the surgery. but for that brief period i noticed my own judgment towards characters i pictured as being "ugly" and realized that said something about my own biases, and vanity in a way that made me earnestly self reflect. i feel like the fact the characters are not actually "ugly" in any meaningful sense kind of dulls the point the series could've made in quite a profound way. and of course, the live action characters are played by conventionally attractive people.
Do NOT abbreviate Marjorie Taylor Greene again!!! I cannot be associating her with one of my favorite games!!!
It's a small intersection of nerd games and politics that we're in.
I forgot about Magic The Gathering for a second and was like Metal Tear Golid?
@@thunder-san1377 im glad someones elses mind forced Metal Gear Solid even though it knew it was wrong
@@thunder-san1377literally same lmfao
Pinkertons, don't forget.
I read this book trilogy in like 8th grade. I remember really liking it. Its been years since I read it so I don't know if it still holds up. Just a minor correction. "Uglies" refers to anyone who hasn't had the pretty surgery. They aren't meant to look Ugly, just normal.
Yeah, a lot of people seems to miss that the actors casted are pretty on purpose, its a (really on the nose) critic on how even the pretty people are considered "ugly" and needed to change themselves in a society with such a high beauty standard
I read it in 8th grade too! All I remember is that I kinda liked it, but disliked the protagonist. And I haven’t watched the movie or even this video yet, lol
Yeah, I remember those books. They were pretty good, however uglies the movie was just... eh- it wasn't awful, but it was not interesting
@@paulovitorsouzanunes4854I think the main criticism is that the point is so on the nose that it kinda fails as a metaphor and just isn’t clever. If the message of the movie is that outward beauty isn’t important, the message doesn’t resonate very well from people who are conventionally good looking. Kinda like listening to a billionaire telling you money isn’t important while remaining a billionaire.
@@daveyellick6685 oh, i agree, the delivery of the metaphor is utterly ridiculous, funny even, but all of the criticisms i heard until now are in the lines of "they arent even ugly" wich doesnt correspond to "this metaphor is shit and on the nose", i think most people just got the metaphor fly over their heads
Hollywood could never make Uglies work because Hollywood is what Uglies is making fun of.
A better way to adapt this would have been an animated movie. The Uglies are drawn in standard western style while Pretties are drawn as anime characters.
LOVE THIS
What is “standard western style” anyway?
@@Zarastro54there’s 2 types roughly speaking, one is less anatomical (think noodle arms and exaggerated shapes) with a focus on fluidity and distinction between characters over any realness. For examples look at adventure time, Chowder, Phineas and Ferb, or Amazing world of gumball. For the other type you have more standard proportions with characters usually following a base outline for ease of animation, and follow a simple realistic design with little to no real extra attachments or flair. I’d say look at the majority of adult cartoons, especially adult sitcom cartoons for this. Obviously there will be extravagance in this kind, but for the general set of characters it’s very uniform.
Replace "standard western style" with "generic adult animation"
and "anime" with "stereotypical 6th grader anime style"
Then you have my vote
I'm so glad someone is here to watch movies that I don't want to watch so I don't have to wonder if it's actually good
He…he watches it…so….s-so you….so you don't…h-h….have…to.
Hunch: They didn't sub this as a part 1 beginning of a saga because Netflix are notorious for killing franchises days after they air.
They didn't call it "Uglies Part 1" because that convention doesn't match that case. The movie seems to adapt the whole first book. So. It's not the first part of the adaptation of the book called "Uglies". It's the same reason they didn't called the second Hunger Games movie "The hunger games Part 2" and they used the title of the second book to refer to the movie adapting the second book.
@@Paulxl Mostly just goofing in my comment, but that makes sense
Yo has anyone ever noticed that Pat has never repeated a single outfit in all of the videos so far?
He is flexing his drip
Bro doesn’t know about the infinite Pat wardrobe
haha guilty
theorheticaly you can determine which video a clip is from throgh the outfit
I also noticed that he looks like Aisa Butterfield
It's too bad because, if handled well, I feel like this concept would have had some potential to be interesting if it really leaned in to absurdism and satire. In the right hands, it could even become commentary on something like eugenics or how ideologies (like fascism) create false and unachievable biological hierarchies where someone always needs to be the "undesirable" or "degenerate" at the bottom of the pyramid. Beauty standards are also really strange when you think about them. What do you mean some people are turned off if someone's nose is at a specific angle and size? Thats wild. I mean, there was a time where people thought tuberculosis was super sexy. And then there's the whole concept of pushing beauty standards onto literal children... I could go on but its a topic that has a lot of meat that the writers just ignored in favour of a script that would have felt cliche back in the 2010's
Eugenics is a topic beyond the YA scope.
Nha, we have plenty of books and movies which handle with such topics with much more nuance, depth, care and complexity than this comment sugests.
Honestly if you want a good story that touches on this concept the hunger games does a good job at it, especially the first book which was a criticism of Hollywood’s treatment of children. In that you have a whole realm of people that actively push in the absurdity of beauty with the capital.
I’m confused as to why they call them “uglies”. If everyone gets this surgery at 16, then aren’t all the pre-surgery people just “kids”? Why would anyone come up with a new term in this situation? “Ugliness” would just become part of the concept of “child”.
no, kids and uglies are separate categories in this world. people become 'uglies' once they begin puberty- thus losing the smooth skin and cuteness of children
It's crazy how the very premise of this movie shows how incredibly predictable the YA dystopian genre was. This movie is a damn time capsule. An anachronism.
society: *exists*
protag: "so i had a problem with this!"
the wild part is this actually came out before the hunger games and all the rest
The Giver made note that they were one of several colonies, and also noted that there are alternatives; this is because the book proposes what would happen if Nazi's managed to maintain control and build their utopia.
That's why there's only one race. The basic idea of the society is removing the need to choose and thus the ability to question doing what you're told.
Yeah that book does do a better job of acknowledging the absurdity of the situation. It’s not that they didn’t want to see race so they got rid of color it was literally they didn’t want to see color for fear of there being a choice that could come with it even if it was as simple as do I eat the red apple or the green apple. Hell they got rid of weather and seasons because it lead to people feeling it helped/hurt them in some way, or at least that’s what we are told. Every kind of difference was taken away because it made it “more fair.”
that Too Many Cooks jumpscare though
AND THE NEW VEGAS JUMPSCARE OMGGGGGG
TOO MANY COOKS
1) I'm thirty-one, read this book in middle school, and when I saw a bunch of videos dunking on this movie in my recommended feed (the first time I knew they were even adapting the movie) thought, "Huh, that's funny. Why wait until *now* to make an adaptation? Who is this even for?"
2) Joey King has such a strange and inconsistent filmography. It's not that she's never done/been in anything good, it's just that it feels like her agent is playing Russian Roulette with her career.
3) I have nothing against Laverne Cox, but it did make me feel weird that a trans woman was cast as a nefarious adult who forces teenagers into life-altering surgeries during an election year in which trans people are thrown into a culture war with that kind of misinformation. I don't think it was intentional on the part of the people making this adaptation at all, just not something I could quite ignore.
4) I think a lot of people were more interested in Tally's relationship with Shay than Tally's canonical romantic interests. I was.
5) I hear this criticism a lot of the film--why call it The Uglies if the actors/actresses aren't ugly? I haven't seen the movie but I'm kind of surprised that I keep hearing it because it's pretty straightforward in the book: they're *not* ugly. They're non-augmented people who haven't yet been conformed into a mandatory plastic surgery that turns them into a homogenous standard of people who are all unsettlingly attractive in a uniform way (that carries some racist/antisemitic implications on the beauty standards for the Pretties.) There's a moment in the book in which Tally's browsing a magazine from the Before Times in which she looks at pictures of models and movie stars and still finds them unattractive because they don't fit a genuinely impossible standard that is corrected by the surgery. Maybe an animated adaptation would've made this message come across better? Goodness knows the weird IG filter doesn't help.
your entire comment is 100% on point
@@bunnyellabellshe used the word "antisemitic." Nothing surrounding that can be taken seriously.
Praying for Joey King to get a good role so we can see her actually attempt real acting
16:27 I'm sure the point you were trying to make here is that there are differences in how peer enforced heteronormativity presents itself across gender lines, but what you actually said is that girls don't worry about being accused of queerness while in their teenage years and just. No. Not true. Being a closeted lesbian in high school was not fun and was extremely anxiety inducing.
Wow, this unlocked a memory. I remember reading this trilogy (Uglies, Pretties, & Specials) maybe two decades ago. I can't imagine why they thought they could resurrect this series for a modern audience.
Lack of ideas for slop content im guessing
@@mc5967"I had an idea for a new show!"
"Great, that's why we hired you! What's your idea based on?"
"Based on..? It's MY idea"
"Great but what did you base it on?"
"What do you mean?"
"I mean is it an old TV show? A book? An old Movie?"
"No, it's a NEW idea!"
"You're fired."
It's so weird, because when the book came out in 2005, a lot of technology was more futuristic instead of just More Future Snapchat Filters, and the kind of brainless, party all the time, beautiful people living lavishly and not really caring about anything Pretties were actually almost jarringly odd back then, but now we call them Social Media Influencers.
The book WAS a deeper look at this type of thing, when the concepts in the book were actually interesting and new ideas, which is why, even if the book was more accurate to the book instead of Netflixified into the same bland YA Dystopia Book to Movie adaptation formula.
Basically, this movie gave the book the Pretty surgery from this movie, where it just makes you generically yassified and mostly brain dead.
McG is famous for getting Christian Bale to go off on during filming of Terminator Salvation
One genre I wish would come back is surfer movies. I feel like the last one of those to come out was happy feet...
Do you mean Surfs Up? Happy Feet is the dancing penguin movie.
@@WilliamTice haha yeah I totally meant surfs up 🤦
@@Mr.MovieMountaini also get happy feet and surfs up confused oml
omg i was obsessed with teen beach movie when i was little
My dude you’re gonna have to stop being so consistently awesome, you’re making the rest of UA-cam look bad
lol fr fr
He is so underrated fr. 💯@@hiim4212
nahhh you’re too kind
18:03 I was so ready for you to say ‘it strikes fear into the hearts of Goliaths’.
I read the title, and was worried that this would be a "Cuties" sequel. Thankfully, the movie wasn't NEARLY that bad.
Ugh the cuties joke was right there but I cut it from my draft lol
When i saw the trai!er i was like. Wasnt this a Twilight Zone plot (Eye of the Beholder)
Number 12 looks like you.
Yes, and it was done much better.
@@nicholasprakash3411damn beat me to it.
I was not expecting the Too Many Cooks jumpscare lol
It takes a lot to make a stew, after all
I wasn't expecting a review of Uglies from you buddy. Nice one. I recommend to watch Netflix's previous Bomb: The Prom. You're likely gonna hate it and rant about it in a video. Or like it. I just wanna see a video of it made by you.
I struggled with this movie. Like down every plot path, it just was like this makes no sense. Advanced technical society can't find people in the woods? Dr. Cable needs a 16 yr old to find them? Are the smoke people nomadic? They get parents to raise them? Everyone under 16 is raised in the dorms? No one in the Pretty City knows that the enivronmental collaspe would end the world? The necklace wasn't tracking her already? It had to break before a signal could be sent? We have that technology right now... Like some people die in the pretty surgery? That happens now, in routine procedures, that's the risk. If Shay isn't into Tally why does she get super jealous of her with David? How did she get into the penthouse? She was allowed to sneak into the lab and then Pretty City folks were like here's your amazing room and belongings!
I wish I would have seen this before I watched it myself. That's 2 hrs of my life I'll never get back. btw Great videos. I give it 2/5 Birchum's.... Uglies, not your video... (this vid is 5/5 Birchum's.)
5/5 Birchums we absolutely take those haha. Yeah generally in my experience it's good when a movie raises questions, but not when those questions are "none of this makes any sense at all."
IIRC, the genetically modified flowers in the book were a rare ornamental flower which was genetically modified to grow faster. It only took over the landscape by accident.
Nuclear plants > solar and wind
Sadly, I watched this review after having already watched uglies earlier this week. I agree with your review, all parts. The movie was just disappointing, and had a bunch of spots where I reacted out loud with things like “WTF???”. This movie seems like a poor ripoff on Equilibrium (that’s a movie you should review!), combined with pretty much any angsty YA movie of the last 10 years. I also thought that Tally and Shay were pretty obviously heading for a great lesbian relationship, and then later felt that Tally and David’s relationship felt fake vs her friendship/love interest with Shay. There were other points that broke me, while watching it - like realizing that 25-yr olds are playing as 16 year olds, or that how the f-k could you have a solar powered helo??? Or - if the pretty city has all of that tech for flying vehicles - and they see David and his group as a threat? They could carpet bomb them in a morning session and not even be late for lunch. And the greenscreen/cgi moment on the hoverboards on the course - that made me also WTF out loud, it looked like a sped up video game animation. Anyway, agreed - this movie was very disappointing, and I only watched it because netflix promoted it. And your video review is pretty awesome.
The book is a lot better with the concept, like the whole lesbian thing didn't exist in the book (I'm a lesbian myself and I don't see it in the book) and David was always meant to be the love interest. Also, in the book, they wanted to capture David and his group because they didn't like that they weren't under their control, not because of some weapon
yeppp I agree with you here. My perspective? There’s still value in watching movies that we end up disliking, even we end up disappointed, because we solidify our own taste and become better storytellers as a result, a skill useful in life even if you’re not personally not making movie. (or at least this is what I tell myself to cope with having spent 20+ hours of my life watching, writing, and editing something tied to a bad movie lol)
@@myfriendscallmepat - You have a good point. I’m a believer in that you can’t know what you like or love, unless you know what you dislike or hate as well; as you need something to judge against.
Was Laverne Cox being cartoonishly evil as fun as it looked though?
Love your videos pat. Wanted to chime in. The reason probably for waiting till 16 is there is enough frontal lobe and cortex development to target specific personality changes but there isnt so much future development in the brain to cause a rejection in the surgery in high numbers. If you did the surgery earlier, the plasticity of the brain might heal the area enough to not have the population controling effect they desire.
Oh I knew fundamentally there was a logical reason lol but I was assuming in the world of magical flowers I could bend the rules a tad. Thanks for the comment :)
@myfriendscallmepat right? X3c, anyway, lovely videos. I'm happy you do read comments.
In a film review, you call it VFX (Visual Effects) nor graphic design. A graphic designer designs elements of the title sequence, credits and other on screen graphics (for example when a news broadcast is show, the TV logos and transitions are graphic design).
Visual effects are all encompassing, it includes CGI and practical effects.
If you wanted to specifically critique the CGI, you'd say digital VFX, or computer VFX.
I'm sure that many of the artists who worked on this terrible film are in fact talented and skilled in their art, but you've got to pay the bills somehow.
Not having a go, just thought this would be useful to know
Yeah I saw this with the Birchum stuff, you can be as talented as you want but the key resources you'll always run into are gonna be how much budget and time is allocated for you to perform your best work. (And in my opinion I always get terrible video quality from streaming regardless of the quality of the original work). But thanks for the correction, I'll try to absorb it for future reference
If anyone wants to see an actually good movie with commentary on beauty standards (specifically, beauty standards that exist for women), you HAVE to go see The Substance!!!
I’d recommend checking out Final Girl Studios, she does a lot of videos covering movies with cool themes about beauty and the transition from girlhood to womanhood, you can get a lot of good film recs that way
Thank you for all of your hard work on these videos Pat. I thoroughly enjoy watching your channel and all of your snark.
Great video, Patthew!
Fits always going crazy
Netflix queerbaiting, you say?
*School for Good and Evil has entered the chat*
So, I actually worked as a form of Teaching Assistant and sat in a class, where they read this book and discussed it.
I was amazed that they made a film adaptation of it at all, to be honest.
But honestly, it feels like the film adaptation is lacking what a lot of film adaptations lose from the book. A lot of Uglies is about the introspective of the characters. What being a pretty means to them and the mystery of what's going on with the friends who left them.
I actually think this aspect of the books is relatable, because she spends so much time thinking about her friends who are pretty now and then she finds them and they don't remember her and the things that mattered and still matter to her just don't.
I saw this as sort of allegorical of what it can be like, if you have older friends, who move onto college, without you and by the time you see them again, they've basically moved on and outgrown you.
Whether that was intentional or not, the fact that I even thought that, whilst helping a dyslexic kid keep up with the story kind of highlights what I mean. I felt it was a story that was incredibly basic and wasn't very strong but it was more about the emotions of the characters and their processing of the world they were in.
Was it the greatest thing I've ever read? No.
Do I think that the merits of the book have been lost in this rushed adaptation that is trying to steal the Maze Runner audience, that no longer exists? Yes.
Hey Pat, you're the best! Thanks for reading my comment 🤗
Of course!
I’m enjoying your channel can’t wait to see it grow 👏🏽
Thanks friend!
Seeing how the subsequent entries in the source material glorify the fuck out of self-harm...it's best this doesn't move forward.
You forgot to mention that Shay leaves Tally a cryptic string of clues to lead her to the smoke camp. It consists of Tally riding a rollercoaster track on her hover board and losing control, accidently crashing onto a railway, that was the next clue in the string. She literally STUMBLES across on the tracks. Then she interprets "make the worst mistake" as "I should jump off this cliff". Let's not even mention the fact that Shay had never been to the smoke camp before, so how did she know how to guide Tally there? It didn't even ACTUALLY lead her to the camp, it lead her to a flower field that was scheduled to be set on fire by the smoke where David just happens to find her amidst a roaring fire and again it was pure dumb luck that she literally stumbled across this location like she did with the train tracks. So much of the movie simply made no sense. It's like it was written by a 13 year old girl.
Yeppp I had this same thought while watching but ended up cutting my thoughts on that from the script. Didn't make any sense lol
7:06
This was a really interesting thing in the book, and the movie butchered it! The flowers weren't modified to be renewable! They were rare flowers modified to grow much faster so that they would be easier to cultivate, but they grew too fast and took too many nutrients, so anywhere they grew, they spread like wildfire and stripped the land of its resources so much that eventually even the flowers themselves died, leaving barren dirt. They're supposed to be unsustainable, and probably a metaphor about how taking something unique and mass producing it ruins it or something! It's late and I can't remember the metaphor, but it was so much better in the book, and the movie butchered something that would have been so easy to include!
Its based off the book and I barely got far in it bc it was soo....of its time
I hate when people try to excuse things being poorly written as "Oh, it's for children!". Unlike what a lot of people think, children DO know when something sucks.
In the books, Shay has a crush on David and conveys that to Tally, leading to some tension, but that's a bit bleh and stale. Meanwhile in the movie, they seemed to understand a "friends fighting over the same guy" plot-line would be boring, ONLY TO CONVERT THAT INTO "Tally has to pick between two guys" WHICH IS SILLY SINCE PERIS ISN'T REALLY A CHARACTER IN THE BOOKS IN THAT WAY? I'm happy to have more Peris, but essentially sidelining him to a potential love interest with a hinted redemption arc is so boriiiiiiiing, when Tally has infinitely more chemistry with Shay. Honestly, if they continue these movies, having Tally be with David as a sorta comphet situation, only to eventually end up with Shay would be how I'd do....I mean, Tally literally goes through a major operation that changes her brain chemistry, all for the chance to reverse Shay's Pretty procedure....GAY AS HELL, IMHO!!!
Hello, Patrick. Can I call you Pat?
I'm enjoying your videos. Thank you for suffering through shows so I don't have to wonder or suffer!
My subscribers can hehe
New to this channel but loving every video I watch! Awesome humor and entertaining content! Thanks for the laughs, Pat!
Glad you're here my friend!
My GF and I watched it and both thought that Shay was gonna end up dating the protagonist but were ultimately baited.
You know, one of the reasons I really dislike almost all war movies is that in real war nobody is pretty. In real war people are dirty, malnourished, gaunt. Nobody in a real war looks like a Hollywood star which is why watching Tom Hanks, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt etc. play in war movies always feels like an involuntary glorification of war.
I never thought I would have almost the exact problem with a YA teen drama, albeit with much lower sakes. A difference in quality but a sameness in kind.
In my head canon this whole thing was started to tackle a growing problem of pedophilia
what whole thing was started
@@bunnyellabellthe whole "everybody is ugly until 16"
11:46 you’re literally gonna make me cry /hj- I got diagnosed with intractable (not easily managed with meds) myoclonic epilepsy just 2 months before I was old enough to start driver’s training (14 yr 9 mo in my state)
And since then I’ve gotten like six 24-hour long EEGs and have tried several different doses of four different medications and I’m still not seizure free. I don’t notice my seizures anymore, but if just one eyelid flutter is caught on an EEG it sets back the time I can start driving
And oml I just started taking daytime classes at the community college and the campus is across town, so I have to take two buses home and the nearest bus stop is still a mile away from my damn house. Today I walked a mile uphill in like 70 degree heat (too hot for this time of year in this place) and I wanted to die
I envy literally anyone my age with a license yall are so lucky
Anyway thanks for listening to my rant 💕
I love your Fruity Pebbles hoodie
I enjoyed this movie personally because I expected from it nothing more than a silly generic YA dystopia. I read this trilogy a few years ago when I was depressed and found it, well, fine, silly but enjoyable and it helped me kill time. When I found out about the movie I was like oh so my mind didn't make this up-
It was fun and nostalgic experience. A lot looked like I imagined in the book, I liked how they pulled the "pretty but scary" thing with the Specials. I am cringe but I am free
pat i swear youre gonna get huge on here soon
You're too kind lol. Just focused on taking it day by day and getting good videos out for y'all
Now I want to rewatch 6Teen
Have done that once or twice after getting back from the bars, there are definitely parts that aged poorly but overall it did bring me back with a heavy dose of nostalgia
20:23 You have to give credit to the movie/book here. We live in an economic model that 1) continues with practices that destroy the planet even though there are efficient/ecological alternatives to them and 2) capitalism crushes any and all systems that are minimally opposed to it, small producers and traditional communities, for example, are victims constants of large companies. So the logic behind the government in the film is unfortunately very close to reality.
Haven’t finished the video cause it’s longer than it’s been out but I gotta know where the great sweatshirt is from
Thrifted from NYC, L Train vintage
NOOOOO HOW COULD YOU NOW IT WILL BE STUCK IN MY HEAD FOR EIGHT MORE YEARS
Netflix isn’t done with Scott Westerfeld, they’re making an anime adaptation of “Leviathan” with Studio Orange, a YA Steampunk novel from 15 years ago (really betting the farm on old media here) where the original fans are now 30 years old and if you thought “Uglies” was queerbaiting, well, ok it’s not technically that but, you really need to read it to know what I’m talking about. (Or not. You don’t need to read it)
Well. When the YA dystopia craze ended like almost a decade ago, the works that are still available are at the bottom of the barrel.
Netflix making a movie called “Uglies” sounds like the reaction from Cuties made Netflix look for anything they could find named Uglies and just picked this because of the name.
Cats are in fact quite good at chess…
They care about chess? Mine mostly cares about finding sunny spots. Set up a chess board, and she's flipping the pieces off the board.
The reference to the Trap trailer made me laugh way harder than it had any right to! Now I want a video about it! Please, I beg of you, that movie is literally one of my all time "so bad it's good" favorites!!!
I really love Trap, maybe when it comes out on streaming I'll revisit it. It definitely isn't objectively good, but I had a great time watching it. Like Twisters.
commentary is getting better and better keep it up pat! also best most real review on this movie. you articulated my feelings towards it perfectly. everyone’s giving it a pass imo
Thanks boss!
I really wish I had seen this video before watching this film. Also you were absolutely spot on with the whole "they are definitely vibing with each other with Tally and Shay". Then suddenly it's all David all the time out of nowhere.
i just found your channel but it is one of my favorites now
Appreciate it :) comments like this always make me smile
Dude..felt the same way- shay and tally were supposed to be a couple
talking heads mentioned omg we all cheered!! love your videos
Thanks friend :)
Wait, McG, isn't that the director of Terminator Salvation? The only .... good sequel after Terminator 2?
I can’t believe they tried to do a WMD plot line. I was so excited until it showed that it was just an antidote :/
Finding this channel has been one of the better things I've discovered this last month. Also, is the book somewhat inspired by that awesome Twilight Zone episode?
Glad you're here my friend! I don't know if there was any direct inspiration from the Twilight Zone episode, but IMO I think at least on a subconscious level it had to be there. That episode is one of the most influential pieces of media to come out of the Twilight Zone and that era of media in general. Especially things that talk about beauty, society, conformity, etc. In any event, I'd still recommend people watch that before they watch Uglies lol, if they watch it at all.
If you read every comment, that means you have to read this one:
I really like your videos. You're pretty funny.
Take that!
a welcome change from the meaner comments lol. Thanks boss!
@@myfriendscallmepat I want to say that's as mean as I get, but that would be a lie.
McG is also an executive producer on Supernatural which makes it extremely baffling how successful that show was with him backing it
pat, you have the exact sense of elite humor that I love. Your insight is amazing and your goofs make the vids even better 👍
Every time I hear "Whatever, whatever," I start involuntarily writing a Shakira parody in my head.
Huh, maybe my laundry can wait
aigis
Always hehe
my teacher had us read uglies in 8th grade so seeing this video on my fyp didnt even feel real
This book was good when I was 12 and super into it. And maybe just for it being early 2000s in general. If they had made this movie then it would have been decent, but literally all I can think of is that it went the way of the Artemis Fowl film adaptation
You mentioned the music and I had this flashback to watching Starship Troopers and discovering later that the cool future prom dance song is in face just a David Bowie cover with the tiniest bit of sci-fi flavor added to the lyrics.
You need a glowing wand for the heart lol
About Gypsy I think she got jail time because they were able to show that she knew right from wrong. She knew murder was a crime and had access to reach out and escape her abuser without plotting murder. And also part of it was covering up the murder. It was all totally messed up and she was a victim in a horrible situation.
Wait murder is a crime? Fuck.
rocky horror reference gets you an instant subscribe
It's that time of year
Perfect video to comment how handsome Pat is 👌👌❤❤
la chimera is an incredible movie, love to see that it reached the US too
Pat, I adore your obscure references so much, never stop doing them!
Considering energy, solar panels and wind farms are not really efficient. And still harmful for the environment all the same, due to manufacturing and recycling. The most efficient alternative energy source is atomic energy. No it is not dangerous, especially with modern technology, just don't build it in earthquake prone areas, have enough staff and train them well. No, the leftover stuff is not that much and can be safely disposed of and there are recycling technologies in the works.
I really wish a character in this movie would've said "Hey stupid face! You just roll in from the Ugly academy?"
Oh my gods the 6teen bit hit me like a freight train. Haven’t seen that show in a while lol
Commenting for the algorithm, i enjoy your commentary.
You're so right about "telling a complete story within a movie even if part of a multi-move arc" - that's FUNDAMENTAL. Hence why the two most recent examples, Fast X and the Casting of Frank Stone pissed me the eff off.
If pat really reads every single comment then he's read that I called him a cute peanut butter mascot and that makes me happy
Can confirm I did read that you called me a cute peanut butter mascot and that it makes you happy
@@myfriendscallmepat Haha I wasn't doubting you... But you put a smile on my face today :0
This movie wouldn't even hold up during the time when YA novels were being adapted into movies. They already didn't really have much to go on with world building, at least in the first book (which I'm rereading because I loved the book). I like the concept and it's definitely something that fits in today's society that if you don't look a certain way, you're ugly, but they didn't do a good job with that
Gotta say I appreciate all the reviews of stuff that I probably was never going to watch but had a morbid curiousity about. I don't envy the task of subjecting yourself to this stuff and the least I can do is show thanks.
Nothing to do with the movie, but love that hoodie.
@31:06 Pat giving, "Flames! Flames on the side of my face!" energy.
The more you talked about the movie the more I realized I read these books back like 12~13 years ago lmao
Just started watching your videos and I love your delivery. You're hilarious and great to watch!!
I started watching this when the video came out. Got frustrated, went and speedread the book again to check my nostalgia blindness, and finally finished the video. Obviously most of the criticisms are fair and I agree with them, but I feel like a lot of the people watching and reviewing this movie aren't giving it the suspended disbelief and benefit of the doubt that book adaptations need. Why don't the energy flowers make sense? Well, unfortunately, that's explained in the third book of the series. Books have the luxury of holding some of the world building to their chest for future installments in a way that movies can't get away with, but if they sat us down to explain all the context we finally get in Pretties, Specials, and maybe even Extras, the movie would be bloated and exposition heavy. There's not really any winning and while I don't think the movie is Artistic or Necessarily Good, I think it's a faithful adaptation that, while lacking anything resembling a beating heart, is making an effort to get across a story that's extremely dated at this point.
Great review! Really made me think about the film critically and got to revisit a childhood favorite that was so much worse than I remembered. In the unlikely event it gets a sequel, please GOD I hope they don't put in Shay's Pretty Cult and the infamous snowy soccer field scene.
Explaining basic world building elements in the third book of a trilogy is a mistake. The movie (and I guess the first book) failed to make the society shown feel functional. We know how teenagers are treated in that society and pretty much nothing about everything else. Where does the power of Special Circumstances come from? Where are they getting their food and water? Where are the adults? How does that society relate to work? Anything that explain how that society actually works. As it's shown in the movie, that society works by magical means. But there's no magic in that world. It's hard to suspend disbelief when basically nothing gets explained about that world. In "the Hunger Games" how Panem works as society is pretty clear from the beginning of the first book. We know Panem got created by war. The Capitol represent the winners of that war. We have a sense where Snow got his power. Panem as a society get their resources from violently exploiting the people from the districts. And I could go on and on. But the reality is that "Uglies" failed completely to make that society feel real, because it didn't do any of that work. All I know it's the magic flower exists and the procedure exist and a city where people go to do nothing when they are 16 and take the procedure exists and adults are somewhere doing something unexplained. That's not enough world building.
I absolutely shrieked "FFS!" when the "you're beautiful" line was uttered. This could have been a campy good time but it's so ineptly written and directed it's just a slog. Only Laverne Cox knows what she got herself into. And she's the best part of this.
"You won't be able to think clearly, but you'll kind of just be vibing along with existence, anyway." - me on 20mg of Lexapro.
I am fascinated by terrible worldbuilding, because it's such a fertile ground for the imagination to point out every flaw and follow through with every logical strand left arbitrarily unaddressed as the whole thing falls apart.
There's barely any world building there.
"erm actually the uglies aren't supposed to be ugly theyre just supposed to look like normal people but--" If I have to watch another movie where the main theme is about self-love and body issues where some of the actors are also MODELS ima jump off a cliff
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Jared Fogle: I thought Uglies was the sequel to that other Netflix film…Cuties.
0:30 no way you dissing the masterpiece that is Alita Battle Angel
Bro cyberpunk is goated now, absolutely recommend playing it, and the dlc is insanely good to.
As a fan of the books, back in the day, I am baffled that this movie would be made now. The YA dystopia trend is in the odd spot of being too old to be relevant, but not old enough to cash in on nostalgia.