Should we have had lockdowns? | Lord Jonathan Sumption

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • Lord Jonathan Sumption QC says "no society in history has made itself healthier by making itself poorer". This comes after series of COVID lockdowns across the world had serious negative effects on economies and populations - which younger generations are paying for.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 105

  • @bear-tv
    @bear-tv 2 роки тому +37

    I could listen to Lord Sumption all day. Pure reason and logic digested and presented in clear concise English.

  • @jpguthrie6669
    @jpguthrie6669 2 роки тому +33

    I live in Japan, which did not mandate any lockdowns, it did not mandate school or business closures, it did not mandate vaccines. The most the Japanese government did was strongly recommend these things. The Japanese people were free to move about as they liked during the pandemic, though some stores, restaurants, or shops closed or limited hours, many or most did not. This means that Japan's economy continued to run during the pandemic, albeit at a lower level. In regards to pandemic relief, Japan spent very little. Individuals received a one-time payment of $800, and businesses which complied with the government's requests were eligible for a subsidy. In Japan the ordinary people are assumed to adhere to certain level of responsibility, this means that they can find ways to support themselves in times of hardship, and indeed this was the case. Most Japanese save money, and this money came in handy for those who couldn't work, or were forced to work reduced hours. The government and the people both know that handing out money in the form of relief would result in inflation, which would eventually negate any short term benefit. Europeans and Americans are learning now what Japan knew two years ago, "there are no free lunches." Therefore, while Europe and America are experiencing high inflation or a "cost of living crisis," inflation in Japan remains at 1%. While Europe and America are dealing with the social fallout from the lockdowns, life in Japan is normal.

    • @SirPrancelot1
      @SirPrancelot1 2 роки тому +1

      Very interesting information. Thank you.

    • @laurengaskell2098
      @laurengaskell2098 2 роки тому +1

      Yes! And with all that in 2020 Japan had just like 2000 rona deaths for the nation of 130 million

    • @janetjacks3406
      @janetjacks3406 2 роки тому +1

      Good to hear Japan remained sensible in it's approach, not unlike Sweden. However I hear the Japanese Yen has fallen off a cliff so I am guessing there is big consequences for this. We all know all the western style economies are in the toilet and I am sure will all start to collapse at some point in the not too distant future.

    • @jpguthrie6669
      @jpguthrie6669 2 роки тому +1

      @@janetjacks3406 Yes, the yen has fallen off a cliff, but the consequences are counterbalanced by the benefits of being an export-driven economy. A single yen drop off in value against the dollar means literally billions per year in additional revenue for Japan's larger automakers. Japan's economic structure is built around a weak yen, and many people, myself included, are happy to see the yen come down to where it had been for most of the last 40 years.

    • @jpguthrie6669
      @jpguthrie6669 2 роки тому

      @@laurengaskell2098 Japan only counts people who die specifically "from" COVID. In early 2020 Yahoo News predicted that 250,000 Japanese would die by July of that year.

  • @stuartross4948
    @stuartross4948 2 роки тому +11

    Had Lord Sumption and others of his calibre been listened to by Govt from the outset, The UK would have been greatly better off. He wasn't. He did help keep me, and I suspect many others sane. I have a lot of respect for him.

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo 2 роки тому +38

    This was the most sane thing I’ve heard about Covid in two years

  • @Jonnyrockin71
    @Jonnyrockin71 2 роки тому +14

    Great definition of a ‘fanatic’!

  • @hemlock527
    @hemlock527 2 роки тому +22

    20 years imprisonment is the minimum fitting punishment for those like Dan Andrews.

    • @asic45
      @asic45 2 роки тому +3

      Not enough !

    • @hemlock527
      @hemlock527 2 роки тому +2

      Part of me agrees that a ye olde public four quartering would have a more lasting effect on elitist legalised crime. At the very least we can support any future William Wallaces.

    • @robertholland7558
      @robertholland7558 2 роки тому +1

      In a dungeon, with a daily serve of water, stale bread and a piece of “ past it’s best” fruit!

  • @UKtoUSABrit
    @UKtoUSABrit 2 роки тому +15

    Brilliantly put 👍👍👍

  • @chrishewitt1165
    @chrishewitt1165 2 роки тому +14

    There was plenty of discussion but politicians weren't listening

    • @62Cristoforo
      @62Cristoforo 2 роки тому +6

      .. nor was the news media. Any hint of opposition, even raising the questions was quickly extinguished with outlandish accusations of ridicule, anti-science and selfishness.

    • @rogerwoodhouse7945
      @rogerwoodhouse7945 2 роки тому

      It was a panic reaction led by a irrational fear generated by the WHO.Fear amongst world leaders and politicians and an underlying desire for power.

    • @ewanc1
      @ewanc1 2 роки тому

      No-one was listening really. Other countries locked down, the media went on and on about the UK doing the same thing and the government, so desperate to be popular, just went along with it. As a result of all the Covid-related folly over the last 2 years, you end up with the situation we find ourselves in today. I remember saying a lot of what Lord Sumption said in this video to friends, family etc, especially the economic impacts, and guess what, I was right.

    • @rogerwoodhouse7945
      @rogerwoodhouse7945 2 роки тому

      @@ewanc1 Yes indeed.What ( another) weak government we have here in the UK.In fear of the 'left' and other cranky groups which are prepared to 'take to the streets 'in support of any halfbaked latest 'end of the world' bandwaggon.

  • @davidchurchland7406
    @davidchurchland7406 2 роки тому +32

    I believe that some of the people who did this ARE profoundly wicked people. Many profoundly wicked people have done profoundly wicked things all the while telling everyone of the good they were doing. Wicked is as wicked does, and yes I am thinking of Daniel Andrews.

    • @craigroberts1957
      @craigroberts1957 2 роки тому +5

      I agree. These people were warned of the collateral damage but they did it anyway and continued for nearly two years.

    • @robertholland7558
      @robertholland7558 2 роки тому +4

      Wicked? I would suggest some far more stronger terminology, but that likely would not pass the UA-cam standards.

    • @aindriubradleymarshall6226
      @aindriubradleymarshall6226 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed. The reality and magnitude of evil is yet to dawn on the majority .............................

    • @WayneLynch69
      @WayneLynch69 2 роки тому

      In the U.S. it's taken as a gotcha, but the multiplicity of videos of govt., entertainment
      and academic elites associating unmasked in groups speaks very volubly to the
      modus of the lockdowns: the hoi polloi need managing by we the superiors.

    • @amandadangerfieldpiano
      @amandadangerfieldpiano 2 роки тому

      "Wicked" was the word in the video.

  • @redundantlyuseful3366
    @redundantlyuseful3366 2 роки тому +13

    Seriously!!! No Way! Also no vaccine mandates!

  • @margaretmcgee361
    @margaretmcgee361 2 роки тому +8

    Never any cost benefit analysis. Why? It is standard requirement .

  • @enzosperandio9481
    @enzosperandio9481 2 роки тому +10

    Is this even a serious question. Never should have happen. This is the biggest crime against humanity

  • @mbb--
    @mbb-- 2 роки тому +12

    In the U.S., in addition to the things he listed, drug overdoses went up, domestic abuse increased, and elementary school children started killing themselves

    • @LeeGee
      @LeeGee 2 роки тому +2

      That last point is heart-breaking. I didn't know.

    • @jmwoods190
      @jmwoods190 2 роки тому +2

      Ditto in UK & Australia!

    • @mbb--
      @mbb-- 2 роки тому

      @@LeeGee It is. One sixth-grade boy shot himself on video during his remote learning class. Suicides and emergency room visits for suicide attempts and ideation increased significantly among young children

    • @Pacdoc-oz
      @Pacdoc-oz 2 роки тому

      @@jmwoods190 fake news. Suicide either remained at expected levels or dropped during lockdown. Fear, frustration, anger are normal responses to experiences and are NOT MENTAL ILLNESS.
      55 years as a doctor with finger on the pulse of our community and with free access to all the data tells me that this IS fake news.

  • @Politicallyhomeless957
    @Politicallyhomeless957 2 роки тому +11

    One word answer - NO

  • @martthvdb9701
    @martthvdb9701 2 роки тому +14

    I agree with what is being said, but one could stretch it even broader: has human live itself been helped by the freedom destroying lockdowns? IOW: was it worth it to effectively destroying 2 years free living for everybody for the sake of elongating maximum a couple months of the lives of the those whose lives effectively already were pretty much over? Living in residential homes; no longer able to do anything with their lives due to all kinds of underlying issues.
    I would say no. It wasn't worth it, and it has been clear already after a couple of months after de Covid outbreak started.
    The responsible statesmen should be prosecuted.

  • @heasley1971
    @heasley1971 Рік тому +1

    Logic, reason, and rational thought are signs of intelligence. Lord Sumption has them in abundance.

  • @NickHewlettTHATCHIT
    @NickHewlettTHATCHIT 2 роки тому +4

    Thumbs-up to Lord Sumption. 👍💥👍🙏🤺

  • @richardabbot8724
    @richardabbot8724 2 роки тому +7

    Good people don’t do wicked things.
    People with a moral compass don’t do wicked things.
    People with wisdom and understanding don’t do wicked things.
    And if they did, once, they wouldn’t do them over and over again.
    Evil has been at play throughout this.

  • @douglashouston81
    @douglashouston81 2 роки тому +6

    lord sumption was shut down during lockdown as with many dr,s, youtube as much to blame as anyone

  • @GulfIslandRock
    @GulfIslandRock 2 роки тому +4

    No lockdowns

  • @helgividar
    @helgividar 2 роки тому +4

    These measures were a disaster.

  • @alongsleep
    @alongsleep 2 роки тому +8

    Undemocratic.

  • @machtnichtsseimann
    @machtnichtsseimann 2 роки тому +6

    Answer: No.

  • @JohnR22926
    @JohnR22926 2 роки тому +3

    It became a left/right issue. And, sadly, for many people their politics have became a replacement for religion. Therefore it was a moral debate over good and evil, and logic and reason were thrown out the window.

  • @littletime8849
    @littletime8849 2 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.

  • @steveplc2003
    @steveplc2003 Рік тому

    This is the main voice I listened too from day 1. Msm suppressed him. No surprise there.

  • @amandadangerfieldpiano
    @amandadangerfieldpiano 2 роки тому +1

    I love hearing an intelligent man speak.

  • @LeeGee
    @LeeGee 2 роки тому +2

    Imagine still asking this question in 2022. Some people are beyond help.

  • @nunyabusiness646
    @nunyabusiness646 2 роки тому +2

    No we should have not.

  • @acfalk3
    @acfalk3 2 роки тому +2

    What is disconcerting now is this: There has not been a high level academic and international summit resulting in an agreed list of lessons of what has been learned from the most recent pandemic. What I fear is that the same sort of state and federal regimes led by fanatics repeating the same lockdowns and other errors committed during the early 2020 to early 2022 period. The harms created by these errors are omnipresent today, and yet there is not even a vague consensus on the evidence of what was learned. This coming autumn and winter: are we to repeat the nonsense again? We can't all move to Florida and similarly minded states.

  • @egrif9303
    @egrif9303 Рік тому

    The NHS was in meltdown. It would have been worse if we hadn't locked down.

  • @kerilockwood7819
    @kerilockwood7819 Рік тому

    Hear hear

  • @robertjohnsontaylor3187
    @robertjohnsontaylor3187 8 місяців тому

    I live in Milton Keynes and I an a lot of others ignored the lockdown, and I would in the future, and that goes for face mask.

  • @ian111
    @ian111 2 роки тому

    If only Lord Sumption could see the parallel pernicious activities happening in the Climate Crisis story

  • @kaylenehousego8929
    @kaylenehousego8929 2 роки тому +1

    Given that I am learning to play nicely with the other children - I offer no comment.

  • @Mpr47276
    @Mpr47276 2 роки тому +6

    “Covid fanatic…someone who only has room for one idea in his head at a time.”
    Please let me introduce Tony Fauci.

  • @johnfoster7596
    @johnfoster7596 2 роки тому

    John would you or Mr Sumpton if you need medical attention in the future like to submit yourself to lesser medical or immunological attention for a surgical or other medical procedure? I think this channel is now not markedly different from Sky or Fox!