Our two starters are coming back. He knew he wouldn't start so he transfered. The transfer portal is beyond ridiculous. It's ruining college football. Kids don't want to sit, so how the heck do you build depth anymore?
A lot of these dudes have no intention of playing at Bama. They come to boost their brand by wearing the A, then wanna parlay that into a bigger contract somewhere else. Its time to start making these players sign legally binding 3 year contracts.
The fact is NIL is good but the transfer portal is trash it’s time these kids start signing contracts. You wanna transfer then there is repercussions like giving back NIL money
A team is only as good as the depth behind the starters. It’s a long season so we have to have quality depth. And majority of that is in the transfer portal.
The key in the future will be to recruit a couple of 4-5 stars..and then a plethora of 3 stars that will stay and be developed. The key will be to have a lot of older more mature 3 stars who have been in the system and have played with each others..then add a couple key 4 or 5 stars at critical skill positions ie QB and WR..and go win a championship..Penn State and ND did it this year and Auburn did it with Cam. Oh..and CKD did it that way at Washington..
Great analysis, smh about 70% of our fan base does not want to hear that. They get too caught up in star rankings not realizing the recruiting strategy that helped Bama and UGA win is now 5 years outdated
The Transfer Portal should be restricted to 1 unconditional transfer; but then if a player wants to transfer again, the old rule applies - must sit out 1 year. This “Wild West” portal system is an escalating mess 😮
@ he popped on film a lot, he had natural football skills that can’t be taught. He had an impressive frame long but with the speed to play sideline to sideline. He was a good special teams guy as well. He was a year away from being a good player with tremendous upside.
Yall just be tlkn if these players where as good as people saying they'd be noticeable.. you can't keep good talent off the field... the newcomers that got it played heavy
Personally, I would have preferred developing him behind JJ and DL and trying to keep him as a longer term asset to the team than running him off with a transfer. The numbers would have worked out the same way, only with a potential 2-3 year contributer rather than a 1.
WTF? Didn't it close on the 5th? Okoronkwo, Odom, Justice and Devonta are the only ones that have hurt so far, IMO. (Devonta is only 50/50 hurt) -- let's see where OKO lands...
Why are people freaking out? He was such a raw player and may have been passed by Metz, Sanders, and Johnson by A day. Metz and Johnson were already practicing.
Transfer portal isn’t ruining football .. the players now have leverage. If you never p,Syed college football , you’ll never know how it feels to miss reps and opportunities , these kids wanna play and they’re getting paid now.
How quickly my fellow Bama fans forget about what the culture was like around here Pre-Saban!! Saban had to come in here & change the mindset of everyone!! Which is not easy to do….Mal Moore knew that he needed someone, Nick Saban, to save this program!! But u had too many Bama fans, alumni, boosters still living in the past, the Bear Bryant glory days, thinking that we just win because we are Bama. It doesn’t work that way!! Now this 🤡 in my opinion, Greg Byrne, hasn’t had to face the adversity that Mal Moore had been through with probation, bad hire after bad hire & a program that was a dumpster fire!! And this 🤡 goes & hires a coach that is taking over a gold mine. A program that was set up for success unlike when Mal Moore hired Saban. This guy does not understand the culture at Bama. Or the SEC culture…There is no way he can. And quite frankly Greg Byrne does not understand the culture of Bama football because he has not faced the hard times like Mal Moore did!! Mal Moore nor Bill Battle would have hired this coach, especially in this current landscape of CFB. They would have hired someone that they trusted from the Saban or SEC tree that has the right experience. Even if it was a former assistant!!
I agree, almost entirely with your sentiments… The only quibble I would have is the very last part where you say, get someone from the Saban tree… Having been a Bama fan since 1966… Although not an alumnus… I went through the wilderness years 1983 to 2007… Most of the coaches hired during that perod had to pass the “was he one of Bears boys ?” criteria… a connection to Sabin alone is tantamount to living in the past, and is not the way forward… Although I wouldn’t hold it against any former assistant, having established their own bona fides, becoming Alabama’s head coach Understanding the culture in Alabama is one thing… And a very important thing… But understanding the new world of college football(which frankly I despise) is something else entirely
You're nothing but a spoiled fan. People like you aren't Bama fans you're a Saban fan. Hop off the bandwagon, I hear the Auburn bandwagon is hiring help you'll be more welcome there
I was an Alabama fan a little bit before the Mike Debose season started. It was hard being a Bama fan during those days. The only ( AND THE ONLY ) coach that was worse than Debose himself was Jennings Bryan "Ears" Whitworth. That's how bad Mike Debose was.
Not being ranked in the top 25. So when you win 4 in a row you get to 15 but lose 1 game and you are back at 20. Now you have a problem breaking the top 12.
SO, you don't want players to Transfer through Portal, then the Seniors and Juniors need to go Pro. All those 8 returning Starters on Defense should all go Pro and have the Young Guys play. So, when they return, the Freshmen will Transfer.
They do. Most of us can take a higher paying job tomorrow. We just don't hold the same value these kids have. I cant think of many people I know that could get a substantial increase tomorrow, but our choosing not to.
Jackson Arnold had the worst QBR of all SEC QBs last season. I don't know that Freeze can do much with him. Payton Thorne literally regressed under Freeze
Thanks for the admission Luke. I have been mad at you since the lost. From here on out, drop the fan boy evaluation. We can handle the truth. At the end of the year you just look like a fanboy.
Hate the game not the player?… Neither… Hate the system This current system has been produced by the big money guys… My feelings, maybe like a lot of other old school college football fans… After the 94 strike in major league baseball, I realized… I love the game of baseball, but I don’t love the League, MLB… The problem for MLB is a lot of the people who love baseball all their lives no longer watch it Is that where college football is headed?… If college football goes down… I’m pretty much out of sports. They’ve all been ruined.
😂 no reason to follow if you’re Bama fan. If you’re Texas, Ohio, Oregon and any other school with $$$. Then you will definitely follow recruiting 😂 Its over! Get used to your new reality. Youre probably a top 20 team. You’re a middle of the pack team. You will be for years to come! If you’re luck you will make a playoff spot every 4-6yrs
You guys have ZERO clue HOW this thing really works....lol.....The chance of this young man not being" recommended " to move on is SLIM and NONE and SLIM left the building....
The NIL AND TRANSFER PORTAL HAS RUINED COLLEGE FOOTBALL! I, for one, willn't be paying my hard earned money to go to another college football game. Good luck paying those spoiled teenagers! 😡
Calm Down about players leaving. This is the new Landscape until SEC and Big Ten Commish change the rules. I am not losing sleep. I will continue to donate $150 monthly to YEA Alabama and hope they figure it out
Just gotta buy good players now, player development is dead, might as well not take high school kids anymore cause they are gonna be gone by the time they can play, just buy new experienced players from other teams every year
@@darnellrtr252yeah but it’s Jackson Arnold. If I’m not mistaken he had the lowest qbr in the sec. Also keelon could start day 1 and be better than Arnold ever was. That shit is just disrespectful and you still have Time to delete this bullshit😂
Our two starters are coming back. He knew he wouldn't start so he transfered. The transfer portal is beyond ridiculous. It's ruining college football. Kids don't want to sit, so how the heck do you build depth anymore?
There’s literally NO reason to follow recruiting anymore. CFB is cooked until rules are changed
Which really means alabama can't horde talent anymore... Alabama can't have 5stars riding the bench until their junior year
A lot of these dudes have no intention of playing at Bama. They come to boost their brand by wearing the A, then wanna parlay that into a bigger contract somewhere else. Its time to start making these players sign legally binding 3 year contracts.
Riding the bench? No player "ride" the bench unless they are ready. They are being developed, getting their bodies ready.
@@MrKeydeveiousi We have Ty Simpson who is a Junior this next coming season. If I'm not mistaken.
@@MrKeydeveiousi This young man is NOT and was NEVER a 5-Star....Hell he has played VERY little football.....
Luke, I appreciate a man who has a flair for the dramatic.
I Live Literally walking distance from Bishop state, and did not know they had a Baseball team, learn sumthin new everyday thanks Jimmy!
I didn't think any of the other transfers mattered all that much but I can't say that about this one.
He was going to be a terrific player.
How in the hell do you know that?....Answer....You dont....
@@jamesniday9236 Probably because my IQ is about 60 points higher than yours.
I, for one, am excited about the '25 defense!! ROLL TIDE
The fact is NIL is good but the transfer portal is trash it’s time these kids start signing contracts. You wanna transfer then there is repercussions like giving back NIL money
There would be a lot less portaling if they made them sit a year again
That really speaks on how bad the offense was. Best defense since Pruitt but lost the most games since 2007.
That defense wasn’t that good lmao
A team is only as good as the depth behind the starters. It’s a long season so we have to have quality depth. And majority of that is in the transfer portal.
We need to hope our juco guys we signed and some of the younger guys pop on defense.
What are the incoming LB’s??
The key in the future will be to recruit a couple of 4-5 stars..and then a plethora of 3 stars that will stay and be developed. The key will be to have a lot of older more mature 3 stars who have been in the system and have played with each others..then add a couple key 4 or 5 stars at critical skill positions ie QB and WR..and go win a championship..Penn State and ND did it this year and Auburn did it with Cam. Oh..and CKD did it that way at Washington..
Great analysis, smh about 70% of our fan base does not want to hear that. They get too caught up in star rankings not realizing the recruiting strategy that helped Bama and UGA win is now 5 years outdated
Has anyone looked at the portal losses over the last 2 seasons, really since Saban retired? Have we surpassed 50 yet? Feels like more than that.
Roster now consists of Starters and 1st year players who hope/assume to be 2nd Team at worst... No?
Jimmy hinted at this last night..22-27 starters..20-25 signees..and then everyone else…
I, for one, am excited about the '25 defense!! ROLL TIDE! I am nervous about the offense...
The Transfer Portal should be restricted to 1 unconditional transfer; but then if a player wants to transfer again, the old rule applies - must sit out 1 year. This “Wild West” portal system is an escalating mess 😮
Next man up. RTR 💯💪🔥
I think Mike Shula stepping into the role of offensive coordinator has been a big plus for Bryce
Shula at SC
@hattymay-ms7ml just checking if you're paying attention
@williamhughes2193 lol good one sir! Hope you have a blessed new year
It affects us now because of injuries and experienced depth.
Luke is the kiss of death
Losing okoronkwo is a big loss because he was developing into a really good player
Based on what?
@ he popped on film a lot, he had natural football skills that can’t be taught. He had an impressive frame long but with the speed to play sideline to sideline. He was a good special teams guy as well. He was a year away from being a good player with tremendous upside.
@ you see he didn’t even play in the states and was already ahead of highly rated recruits.
Yall just be tlkn if these players where as good as people saying they'd be noticeable.. you can't keep good talent off the field... the newcomers that got it played heavy
@ gotta have good players for depth too bro. Just like when saban was coaching he had good players coming off the bench
Personally, I would have preferred developing him behind JJ and DL and trying to keep him as a longer term asset to the team than running him off with a transfer. The numbers would have worked out the same way, only with a potential 2-3 year contributer rather than a 1.
Luke, don't act as though these roster spots are all locked in for 2025. We may lose more in Spring Portal
We will
WTF? Didn't it close on the 5th? Okoronkwo, Odom, Justice and Devonta are the only ones that have hurt so far, IMO. (Devonta is only 50/50 hurt) -- let's see where OKO lands...
Why are people freaking out? He was such a raw player and may have been passed by Metz, Sanders, and Johnson by A day. Metz and Johnson were already practicing.
These kids are doing it while they can,because this stuff is coming to an end,this April.
I hope so. It's beyond ridiculous. I just dont know what the hell the NCAA was thinking to begin with.
I think yall are blind to the caliber of players these other SEC teams have signed.
I tripped on that one whomever the qb coach is Bryce is playing much better
Luke, It’s “Don’t hate the player, hate the game.” Def from the 90s so not a new saying.
Running backs are back in NFL , I am glad that Mildro is gone. Now we must use them and don’t make them leave
Transfer portal isn’t ruining football .. the players now have leverage. If you never p,Syed college football , you’ll never know how it feels to miss reps and opportunities , these kids wanna play and they’re getting paid now.
How quickly my fellow Bama fans forget about what the culture was like around here Pre-Saban!! Saban had to come in here & change the mindset of everyone!! Which is not easy to do….Mal Moore knew that he needed someone, Nick Saban, to save this program!!
But u had too many Bama fans, alumni, boosters still living in the past, the Bear Bryant glory days, thinking that we just win because we are Bama. It doesn’t work that way!!
Now this 🤡 in my opinion, Greg Byrne, hasn’t had to face the adversity that Mal Moore had been through with probation, bad hire after bad hire & a program that was a dumpster fire!!
And this 🤡 goes & hires a coach that is taking over a gold mine. A program that was set up for success unlike when Mal Moore hired Saban.
This guy does not understand the culture at Bama. Or the SEC culture…There is no way he can. And quite frankly Greg Byrne does not understand the culture of Bama football because he has not faced the hard times like Mal Moore did!!
Mal Moore nor Bill Battle would have hired this coach, especially in this current landscape of CFB. They would have hired someone that they trusted from the Saban or SEC tree that has the right experience. Even if it was a former assistant!!
I agree, almost entirely with your sentiments…
The only quibble I would have is the very last part where you say, get someone from the Saban tree…
Having been a Bama fan since 1966… Although not an alumnus…
I went through the wilderness years 1983 to 2007… Most of the coaches hired during that perod had to pass the “was he one of Bears boys ?” criteria… a connection to Sabin alone is tantamount to living in the past, and is not the way forward… Although I wouldn’t hold it against any former assistant, having established their own bona fides, becoming Alabama’s head coach
Understanding the culture in Alabama is one thing… And a very important thing… But understanding the new world of college football(which frankly I despise) is something else entirely
You're nothing but a spoiled fan. People like you aren't Bama fans you're a Saban fan. Hop off the bandwagon, I hear the Auburn bandwagon is hiring help you'll be more welcome there
And Saban left cause his way won't work anymore.
You aren’t a bama fan you’re a Saban fan. Go away no one wants you here. Go bandwagon whoever wins this years title bum
I was an Alabama fan a little bit before the Mike Debose season started. It was hard being a Bama fan during those days. The only ( AND THE ONLY ) coach that was worse than Debose himself was Jennings Bryan "Ears" Whitworth. That's how bad Mike Debose was.
What are they thinking? They are thinking Saban is no longer the coach.
Not being ranked in the top 25. So when you win 4 in a row you get to 15 but lose 1 game and you are back at 20. Now you have a problem breaking the top 12.
Roll tidee🐘
TRANSFER PORTAL AND NIL A D 12 TEAM PLAYOFF WAS PUT IN PLACE TO TAKE THAT STRONG HOLD FROM THE SEC AND ITS WORKING......PERIOD
Does this kind of thing make following recruiting a waste of time?
SO, you don't want players to Transfer through Portal, then the Seniors and Juniors need to go Pro. All those 8 returning Starters on Defense should all go Pro and have the Young Guys play. So, when they return, the Freshmen will Transfer.
Man if they had Job portal For work . 😊
They do. Most of us can take a higher paying job tomorrow. We just don't hold the same value these kids have. I cant think of many people I know that could get a substantial increase tomorrow, but our choosing not to.
That's a great point!
I’m not even going to buy the pre season mags anymore. Doesn’t matter now
I never heard of this player until he hit the portal. 🤷🏽♂️
The news hit that Seattle fired Ryan grubb
Difficult to tell how good would have been. Just from the fact he's never played that much.
Yeah that’s gonna hurt
And, your point Luke? Only ESPN sucks worse than the portal...AND the NIL as it exists today...
Point on the doll where ESPN hurt you
@@jayjonestv7975 hahahaha...as long as I own the remote I am good...thanks.
@@jayjonestv7975it does suck tho at least ever since Disney bought it
Jackson Arnold had the worst QBR of all SEC QBs last season. I don't know that Freeze can do much with him. Payton Thorne literally regressed under Freeze
I think he got poached by another program.
Never count out Bryce Young! RTR
There are too many injuries in football for a kid to transfer out of a program.
The two greatest sunshine pumpers
Luke, we don't care about phones ringing or whatever else would be going on. So you can stop muting!!! Please!
College Football is out of control
It's almost like he waited until the last possible min to hit the portal....like it was NYE...5, 4, 3, 2, 1....im out!!!
Maybe he was giving Deboer and staff a chance to convince him and they failed or didn't care/try like has been the case with other Saban players.
@@NoSerfdomyeah ok😂 it’s more likely that it’s out of spite for the seniors returning
RTR!
U guys are coping... U ever hear the old saying, "A bird in hand is better than 2 in the bush"? J O. is a huge loss.. PERIOD!
Just like everyone else he will be replaced. PERIOD!
Thanks for the admission Luke. I have been mad at you since the lost. From here on out, drop the fan boy evaluation. We can handle the truth. At the end of the year you just look like a fanboy.
Hate the game not the player?…
Neither… Hate the system
This current system has been produced by the big money guys…
My feelings, maybe like a lot of other old school college football fans…
After the 94 strike in major league baseball, I realized… I love the game of baseball, but I don’t love the League, MLB…
The problem for MLB is a lot of the people who love baseball all their lives no longer watch it
Is that where college football is headed?… If college football goes down… I’m pretty much out of sports. They’ve all been ruined.
Grubb to Alabama?
😂 no reason to follow if you’re Bama fan. If you’re Texas, Ohio, Oregon and any other school with $$$. Then you will definitely follow recruiting 😂
Its over! Get used to your new reality. Youre probably a top 20 team. You’re a middle of the pack team. You will be for years to come! If you’re luck you will make a playoff spot every 4-6yrs
You guys have ZERO clue HOW this thing really works....lol.....The chance of this young man not being" recommended " to move on is SLIM and NONE and SLIM left the building....
The NIL AND TRANSFER PORTAL HAS RUINED COLLEGE FOOTBALL! I, for one, willn't be paying my hard earned money to go to another college football game. Good luck paying those spoiled teenagers! 😡
Calm Down about players leaving. This is the new Landscape until SEC and Big Ten Commish change the rules. I am not losing sleep. I will continue to donate $150 monthly to YEA Alabama and hope they figure it out
It’s not a blow. He wasn’t in the top 50 players so stop the drama manure!
Click bateyness of click batey top 10 💪🏼
Just gotta buy good players now, player development is dead, might as well not take high school kids anymore cause they are gonna be gone by the time they can play, just buy new experienced players from other teams every year
A healthy DJ lagway makes Florida a top 5 team in the SEC next year fellas.
Nobody is scared of the ALA defense
Stop expecting HS commits to stay committed when the staff bring in old ass players to take their Jobs. Hope Justin O goes to GA
Auburns roster talent seems to be greater than ours at this point. But will the coaching be better? We’ll have to see.
It’s not example number 1 Qb room
@ they have more experience at QB with Jackson Arnold than we do with Ty Simpson
@@darnellrtr252yeah but it’s Jackson Arnold. If I’m not mistaken he had the lowest qbr in the sec. Also keelon could start day 1 and be better than Arnold ever was. That shit is just disrespectful and you still have Time to delete this bullshit😂