For anyone wondering why I bothered reviewing a copy/pasta nothingburger like this - I try to produce reviews of all new vehicles (ESPECIALLY event prizes) when they come out (or at least, as many as I can) even if they're unimpressive or not exciting. They get trash for views, but someone might see this plane on the marketplace a month from now and want to know what its deal is before making a purchase decision.
Really useful for me! I like collecting gimmick weapons like the infinity stones, though this one might be a pass from me now after seeing the Hs 239s speed lol
@@0Ploxx Its not that the missile is slow, its that the He-177 is fast. In actual live matches, speed is life, so you put yourself at INCREDIBLE risk if you slow down to like 250kmh to launch the thing and get a better visual of it out in front of you. As odd as this is going to sound - using the rocket anti-ship missile in the Rank 2 Japanese bomber that was added earlier this year was actually easier, just because the plane itself was much slower.
Gaijin gave the Rooivalk a cockpit?? The most random and obeslete helicopter gets a cockpit and HMD sight but gaijin can’t aleast model a Copy and paste B17 cockpit
@@user-cs3qh1uv5y something about ww2 bombers makes gaijin alergic to updating its inside. we can have all aircraft, ships, tanks, meticulously modeled from the exterior to interior even if it's NGAD but bomber cockpit will always be in its roblox shape
For me, pretty much all MCLOS missiles launched from planes are difficult as hell to use on anything other than static targets. These early ones are just even more sluggish and unresponsive when compared to the late cold war missiles you get in the tech tree.
Lokking forward getting this as a reward. The He 177 is one of the better strategic bombers in the game, so always good to have an extra one. Plus, has an interesting look
Thank you for the inclusion of the knot and mph conversions when discussing landing performance Tim, I personally use feet and knots because that's what used IRL and it is a nice reference for me.
I haven't unlocked it yet, but in test flights I found the missile easiest to use by flying directly at the target and then swapping to the first person HUD view. Not the cockpit view. I'm talking about the one where you're basically just a camera flying through space. That cuts down on parallax a lot and then you just need to pitch the missile up into your field of view and then align it with the target.
Thats what I was originally doing (same method I used in the rank 2 Japanese bomber with a missile), but the problem is that you end up needing to dive towards the target to keep it in view, which eventually results in redlining your airspeed even with throttle set to 0. Curse of having a fast bomber.
@@Soccera0 I dont remember the exact dimensions, somewhere in the high 30s or low 40s, in native 1440p/2k res. I render my vids in 4k though. I upgraded from my old one (which was trash, by comparison) about 18 months ago and its made a huge difference.
@@Soccera0 You're not crazy, but thats not related to my hardware setup - I mentioned it in a vid last year I think, but I changed my encoding settings a while back which made a dramatic improvement. I used to upload in like 1k30, now I upload in 4k60. Its actually part of the reason why I've slowly been re-reviewing some of the first dozen or so vehicles I covered.
It's really weird how they give out event vehicles / premiums with placeholder cockpits. It's like you buy a car and the interior is missing a seat / a radio. You're buying an unfinished product.
Actually, it can take out four bases if you decide to carry the 250 kg firebombs, I found that at 6.0, three fire bombs should be sufficient to take out one base, and seeing that the 177 can carry 12, four should be achievable, if you can survive that long
Sometimes in downtier you can kill base with 1 x1800 or 2x250 firebombs, so you can destroy 8 bases. Only issue is to survive that long you have to space climb and when bombing from space you can miss the base
Mainly Great War & early interwar dreadnought battleships, but anything past 1930 can & will shoot down a large aircraft with a large quantity of HAA if the player is paying attention to aerial threats, especially if they're armed with HE-VT ammunition. Or you unlikely like me recently with a Ki-148 in a Ciclone class TB..
I suck at using any MCLOS weapon, but shooting at something as big as a ship is pretty much the one thing I can accomplish lol. Ground targets in GroundRB? I'm not even gonna bother lol
I know you focus mainly on aircraft , but are there any plans to do the same kind of reviews for ground units/helicopter/naval vessels? You way of bringing history first makes all your videos extremely interesting
It's neat. :) And it's always good to see time-locked vehicles be the same or very similar to permanent tree/premium ones; the less unique stuff is locked away after an event, the better.
I've never done the BP trade coupon thing but I think I'm going to do that and enjoy spading the tech tree one since it sounds like the fritz x is better than the new missile actually
This is an amazing reward for those of us who play war thunder for bombers. It's the first bomber of it's class since the Avro Shackleton so this is great. An absolute annoyance that it's level 75 and they still have not given the bombers like the He-177 a cockpit. I have seen that placeholder cockpit message since 2013/14.
They really put in a previous variant of an existing bomber with a single gimmick weapon as the top reward of a battle pass. I remember when I was so excited about the potential of this system...
Good. Time-locked content sucks, so the fewer "unique" event/BP things get added, the better. What would be far better is to stop adding _new_ vehicles in the BP entirely, and instead have the BP give access to already-added unobtainable vehicles.
@@BleedingUranium But they'll never do that, not for the ones everyone wants. Those make too much money on the marketplace. They'll only continue doing this same shit again. Two crap vehicles, and a random vehicle from a previous pass, which will give you next to nothing if you already have it.
I love trying to hit so targets in test flights with Ki-48 from time to time and god does it take depth perception to even hit a ship. I think MCLOS munitions can get a control set up rework because well they were guided with joysticks mostly and i do not think the current control represent that any good(if you do not use a joystick for them of course)
The Friz X is really fun in Naval, with a good hit you can even one shot Battleships, i gues Hs293 would be more fun there too. Problem is you have to spend quiet a while climbing after spawn to reach a drop altitude where you dont get instantly shredded by 300 or so combined AA mounts (i guess all these people calling CAS to weak are Naval players).
The problem for me with the Hs-293 in naval (I did try to use it about half a dozen times) was that I couldn't keep my distance outside of the invincible AAA porcupine wall and still be able to tell where the missile was to steer it - especially judging the altitude above the water. I had at least 3 shots that hit the water like 100m from the ship I was trying to hit.
@@TimsVariety Yeah thats a big problem. Its realy a shame that the unique feature of the vehicle is something most people will likely avoid, instead of something the actually fun to use in a unique way.
Could you please make a guide about controls and settings with short explanation what does what exactly in game and when you need it? To me as a new player it's all pretty confusing like for example I see people having free camera controls everywhere on UA-cam and I do not know how to do that myself.
Hey tim, appreciate the vid, been wondering if it was going to be worth the grind or not. Any chance we can get a vid for the new Kfir C.10 before everyone gets it? I don't know if people in the creator program get it early or not
If past precedent holds, I'll get access to the Kfir C.10 one day before its available to unlock. Sadly, I probably won't be able to produce a vid in just a few hours, so it'll be late-evening or early the next morning (presuming IRL cooperates). With event vehicles that are highly anticipated like that, I try to do as much prep work (the graphic overlays, the historical info, etc) in advance.
@@JCaleb I dont know this for sure, this is 1000% a guess, but my *guess* is that the snail doesn't give us (youtubers/streamers) earlier access just incase we give a negative review that would prevent people from grinding it out. We don't even get any advance notice of major content updates. So when I actually manage to get a day-1 review out of the new shiney stuff, just know that I dropped everything to deliver it. :-)
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For anyone wondering why I bothered reviewing a copy/pasta nothingburger like this - I try to produce reviews of all new vehicles (ESPECIALLY event prizes) when they come out (or at least, as many as I can) even if they're unimpressive or not exciting. They get trash for views, but someone might see this plane on the marketplace a month from now and want to know what its deal is before making a purchase decision.
Really useful for me!
I like collecting gimmick weapons like the infinity stones, though this one might be a pass from me now after seeing the Hs 239s speed lol
@@0Ploxx Its not that the missile is slow, its that the He-177 is fast. In actual live matches, speed is life, so you put yourself at INCREDIBLE risk if you slow down to like 250kmh to launch the thing and get a better visual of it out in front of you. As odd as this is going to sound - using the rocket anti-ship missile in the Rank 2 Japanese bomber that was added earlier this year was actually easier, just because the plane itself was much slower.
is this vehicle gonna be available on the market at some point? im interested
@@Traxlar It should slowly start showing up as soon as people get far enough int he battle pass to get the coupon to make it tradeable.
Nothing like grinding 75 levels for a placeholder cockpit
Gaijin gave the Rooivalk a cockpit?? The most random and obeslete helicopter gets a cockpit and HMD sight but gaijin can’t aleast model a Copy and paste B17 cockpit
@ Im not expecting them to go back and add all the missing ones, but c’mon guys its an event bomber and they are imo by far the easiest to use in sim
@@user-cs3qh1uv5y something about ww2 bombers makes gaijin alergic to updating its inside. we can have all aircraft, ships, tanks, meticulously modeled from the exterior to interior even if it's NGAD but bomber cockpit will always be in its roblox shape
Ikr it's probably one of the most ass battle passes
The second time, at least
Ok, so it wasn't just me having severe trouble aiming the Hs 293s then.
Not just you, its a very difficult weapon to use.
For me, pretty much all MCLOS missiles launched from planes are difficult as hell to use on anything other than static targets. These early ones are just even more sluggish and unresponsive when compared to the late cold war missiles you get in the tech tree.
For anyone who wants to know, the tech tree one also gets 3 Fritz X. The only claim to fame this thing has is those manually guided slow missiles.
Lokking forward getting this as a reward. The He 177 is one of the better strategic bombers in the game, so always good to have an extra one. Plus, has an interesting look
At 6.0 its at a very good BR. I keep worrying they're going to tier it up into korean war jets because of people complaining about the Fritz-X in CAS.
How long did it take you?
@@Jajalaatmaar You mean getting it in the Battle Pass? Not yet reached, but should get it next week.
Thank you for the inclusion of the knot and mph conversions when discussing landing performance Tim, I personally use feet and knots because that's what used IRL and it is a nice reference for me.
I haven't unlocked it yet, but in test flights I found the missile easiest to use by flying directly at the target and then swapping to the first person HUD view. Not the cockpit view. I'm talking about the one where you're basically just a camera flying through space. That cuts down on parallax a lot and then you just need to pitch the missile up into your field of view and then align it with the target.
Thats what I was originally doing (same method I used in the rank 2 Japanese bomber with a missile), but the problem is that you end up needing to dive towards the target to keep it in view, which eventually results in redlining your airspeed even with throttle set to 0. Curse of having a fast bomber.
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Talk about an eagle eye, how the hell did you even see the target on that Fritz CAS drop?
Huge monitor.
@@TimsVariety48in 4K I assume?
@@Soccera0 I dont remember the exact dimensions, somewhere in the high 30s or low 40s, in native 1440p/2k res. I render my vids in 4k though. I upgraded from my old one (which was trash, by comparison) about 18 months ago and its made a huge difference.
@@TimsVariety So what you're saying is I'm not going crazy when I see your old videos and see worse graphics in the gameplay?
@@Soccera0 You're not crazy, but thats not related to my hardware setup - I mentioned it in a vid last year I think, but I changed my encoding settings a while back which made a dramatic improvement. I used to upload in like 1k30, now I upload in 4k60. Its actually part of the reason why I've slowly been re-reviewing some of the first dozen or so vehicles I covered.
It's really weird how they give out event vehicles / premiums with placeholder cockpits. It's like you buy a car and the interior is missing a seat / a radio. You're buying an unfinished product.
the amount of people that actually care about cockpits is already small enough, bombers are a niche on top of niche
Actually, it can take out four bases if you decide to carry the 250 kg firebombs, I found that at 6.0, three fire bombs should be sufficient to take out one base, and seeing that the 177 can carry 12, four should be achievable, if you can survive that long
Sometimes in downtier you can kill base with 1 x1800 or 2x250 firebombs, so you can destroy 8 bases. Only issue is to survive that long you have to space climb and when bombing from space you can miss the base
Its such a good looking plane
These bombs are tricky, but against battleships in naval RB they’re pretty deadly.
Mainly Great War & early interwar dreadnought battleships, but anything past 1930 can & will shoot down a large aircraft with a large quantity of HAA if the player is paying attention to aerial threats, especially if they're armed with HE-VT ammunition.
Or you unlikely like me recently with a Ki-148 in a Ciclone class TB..
I suck at using any MCLOS weapon, but shooting at something as big as a ship is pretty much the one thing I can accomplish lol. Ground targets in GroundRB? I'm not even gonna bother lol
I know you focus mainly on aircraft , but are there any plans to do the same kind of reviews for ground units/helicopter/naval vessels? You way of bringing history first makes all your videos extremely interesting
It's neat. :) And it's always good to see time-locked vehicles be the same or very similar to permanent tree/premium ones; the less unique stuff is locked away after an event, the better.
I've never done the BP trade coupon thing but I think I'm going to do that and enjoy spading the tech tree one since it sounds like the fritz x is better than the new missile actually
With only a small amount of practice, the Fritz X is an excellent weapon in the prop tiers.
This is an amazing reward for those of us who play war thunder for bombers. It's the first bomber of it's class since the Avro Shackleton so this is great. An absolute annoyance that it's level 75 and they still have not given the bombers like the He-177 a cockpit. I have seen that placeholder cockpit message since 2013/14.
2 minutes ago is crazy 🔥
They really put in a previous variant of an existing bomber with a single gimmick weapon as the top reward of a battle pass.
I remember when I was so excited about the potential of this system...
.... ayup ... thats what they did .....
Good. Time-locked content sucks, so the fewer "unique" event/BP things get added, the better. What would be far better is to stop adding _new_ vehicles in the BP entirely, and instead have the BP give access to already-added unobtainable vehicles.
@@BleedingUranium But they'll never do that, not for the ones everyone wants. Those make too much money on the marketplace.
They'll only continue doing this same shit again. Two crap vehicles, and a random vehicle from a previous pass, which will give you next to nothing if you already have it.
@@ODST_Parker The less time-limited stuff the better, so I'm happy to see it's down to only two instead of four. :P
@@BleedingUranium Not if you're fucking PAYING FOR IT.
I love trying to hit so targets in test flights with Ki-48 from time to time and god does it take depth perception to even hit a ship. I think MCLOS munitions can get a control set up rework because well they were guided with joysticks mostly and i do not think the current control represent that any good(if you do not use a joystick for them of course)
This a very pretty plane
The Friz X is really fun in Naval, with a good hit you can even one shot Battleships, i gues Hs293 would be more fun there too. Problem is you have to spend quiet a while climbing after spawn to reach a drop altitude where you dont get instantly shredded by 300 or so combined AA mounts (i guess all these people calling CAS to weak are Naval players).
The problem for me with the Hs-293 in naval (I did try to use it about half a dozen times) was that I couldn't keep my distance outside of the invincible AAA porcupine wall and still be able to tell where the missile was to steer it - especially judging the altitude above the water. I had at least 3 shots that hit the water like 100m from the ship I was trying to hit.
@@TimsVariety Yeah thats a big problem. Its realy a shame that the unique feature of the vehicle is something most people will likely avoid, instead of something the actually fun to use in a unique way.
Tim, you messed up the line again 🥲
pistachio fascism lmao - normally i dont comment but i want more propssss
"Poorly mustachioed" , I may need to enunciate it better in the future.
@ that’s even funnier lol you’re the best Tim!
Tim when is the GR.4 review coming??
Could you please make a guide about controls and settings with short explanation what does what exactly in game and when you need it? To me as a new player it's all pretty confusing like for example I see people having free camera controls everywhere on UA-cam and I do not know how to do that myself.
Nice video. Think you coud make one of the me 264? I don't think you have made one of that aircraft.
I'll get to it eventually. Prop bomber reviews get even fewer views than my prop fighter videos, so I try to space them out.
When playing top tier air I feel I don't improve even after playing for a while, I still get the same 1-2 kills per game. Any idea why this is Tim?
Also should I grind with the f4s or grind with the f16?
can you please revisit the j7e
Hey tim, appreciate the vid, been wondering if it was going to be worth the grind or not. Any chance we can get a vid for the new Kfir C.10 before everyone gets it? I don't know if people in the creator program get it early or not
If past precedent holds, I'll get access to the Kfir C.10 one day before its available to unlock. Sadly, I probably won't be able to produce a vid in just a few hours, so it'll be late-evening or early the next morning (presuming IRL cooperates). With event vehicles that are highly anticipated like that, I try to do as much prep work (the graphic overlays, the historical info, etc) in advance.
@@TimsVariety Alright thank you for the detailed explanation, looking forward to that video!
@@JCaleb I dont know this for sure, this is 1000% a guess, but my *guess* is that the snail doesn't give us (youtubers/streamers) earlier access just incase we give a negative review that would prevent people from grinding it out. We don't even get any advance notice of major content updates. So when I actually manage to get a day-1 review out of the new shiney stuff, just know that I dropped everything to deliver it. :-)
Hi Tim, what is the differnce between the A-4E Early and the A-4B? I'm so close to having both unlocked. Also what is the best Skyhawk in the game?
The main difference is that the E has access to counter measures and two extra hard points for weapons, it’s a straight upgrade of the B.
What Sarge said.
As for the "best" skyhaw, probably one of the Israeli versions.
@@sargesacker2599 I also heard the E has better engine, is that true?
@@TimsVariety Thank you Tim!
@@MJA-0330 Yes it's true. It has more power
Another banger Gaijin copy pasta 🔥🔥💯💯
Damn posted one minute ago
He 177 - great fail of German aircraft industry.
the years of copypaste
belly landing with no issues nor struggles
As an IRL pilot (just little Cessnas, nothing fancy) I reflexively avoid belly landings in WT ;-)
@@TimsVariety whatever forces you to have longer grind ;-)
worst bp reward...
it's a trash vehicle
Offcourse it is not tech tree.
There is one in the tech tree that is exactly the same, except it doesn't get the guided anti-ship missiles. It's not a good battlepass reward at all.
@BlueLightningHawk yet more reasons to hate Gaijin