2022 BMW K1600 | Brutally Honest Pros/Cons of BMW's Flagship Touring Bike

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • #bmwk1600 #k1600gt #bmwmotorrad #motorcycle #goldwing
    Today we explain everything you need to know - the good AND bad - about BMW's K1600 series of bikes - including the K1600GT, K1600GTL, K1600B, and K1600 Grand America. The platform is 11 years old - but the engine is still a complete masterpiece of engineering and sound.
    00:00 Intro
    02:06 2022 Updates
    03:40 Model Range
    04:36 Is it Fast?
    07:29 Comfortable?
    09:55 Stability Issues
    12:10 Technology
    15:18 Phone Compartment
    18:06 Handling
    22:10 Luggage
    24:04 Vs. Goldwing
    26:47 Final Thoughts
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    🏍 2022 BMW K 1600 GT Specs🏍
    ENGINE
    Type: Inline-6
    Displacement: 1649cc
    Maximum power: 160 horsepower @ 6750 rpm
    Maximum torque: 132 ft-lbs @ 5250 rpm
    Compression ratio: 12.2:1
    Gearbox: Constant-mesh 6-speed w/ helical-cut gears (quickshift optional)
    Final drive: Shaft
    Front suspension; travel: Non-adjustable BMW Motorrad Duolever w/ central spring strut; 4.5 inches
    Rear suspension; travel: Semi-active BMW Motorrad Paralever; 4.9 inches
    Front tire: 120/70 x 17
    Rear tire: 190/55 x 17
    Front brakes: 320mm floating discs w/ 4-piston fixed calipers
    Rear brake: 320mm disc w/ dual-piston floating caliper
    ABS: Cornering-aware ABS standard
    DIMENSIONS and CAPACITIES
    Wheelbase: 63.7 inches
    Rake: 27.8 degrees
    Trail: 4.2 inches
    Seat height: 31.9 inches
    Curb weight: 760-810 lbs pounds
    Fuel capacity: 7.0 gallons
    Estimated fuel consumption: 40 mpg
    2022 BMW K 1600 GT BASE Price: $23,895 MSRP
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  • @BigRockMoto
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    • @dcxplant
      @dcxplant Рік тому

      No CarPlay/Android Auto, speed limited, wonky stability.. holy cow..... I test road the GT and loved it, but the rider is trapped in the riders triangle. I need to be able to move my knees around. I was hoping the Grand America with floorboards would be the ticket... but with the stability... no way. I'll continue to look for aftermarket solutions before being the GT, but I don't like having my legs splayed out at a huge angle so now I'm a little bummed such a cool bike won't fit my needs.

  • @toddlawrimore3577
    @toddlawrimore3577 Рік тому +28

    Spent 4 days on a Grand America and it was an unforgettable experience. That motor and the sound it makes is sublime. I am not inclined to sell my RT just yet, but WOW. Just WOW! Great bike. Great BIG bike.

    • @jeffreyscott4564
      @jeffreyscott4564 11 місяців тому

      I know what you mean,, I loved my RT. That is until I spent real time on the GTL. The RT is a phenominal machine,, and maybe someday I'll go back. But for now, I'm enjoying the 1600

    • @felixlechat1780
      @felixlechat1780 Місяць тому

      The K1600GTL have more luggage space than GA chopped in half

  • @mullman
    @mullman Рік тому +71

    I’m a GS guy, but somehow my life is better knowing this bike exists!

    • @kevincraig8257
      @kevincraig8257 Рік тому +3

      Im like you just knowing that if you ever want to pull the trigger on one its there but for how long the way things are going Ihave several bikes one ADV and a RG but Im always thinking about that GTL

    • @talltimbot
      @talltimbot Рік тому

      Yes, it is newer and more refined than my ancient CBX

    • @EssexCountyPhoto
      @EssexCountyPhoto 11 місяців тому +1

      Same here, been riding GS/A for over 15 years, but this one is really tempting...
      Would make the wife much happier too... 😂

    • @jr.6199
      @jr.6199 9 місяців тому

      The RT seems a better lux tourer and has the radar. That is what I see as my future rolling sofa.

    • @michaeldobson8859
      @michaeldobson8859 3 місяці тому

      What did Ivan say in Iron Man: “Dont get so attached to things, learn to let go”. Adopt new old ideas, be flexible. Hahahahaha

  • @danolsen7745
    @danolsen7745 Рік тому +6

    I 100% agree with your assessment of the technology, in particular the phone compartment and the BMW app. I lusted after a K1600GT for years, and decided to wait until the 2022 model in order to get the TFT. Took delivery of an all black K1600GT in May, put 600 miles on it, and gave it back to the dealer. That phone compartment, and connectivity issues, paired with the jinky app were so frustrating that every ride I wound up a little bit more disappointed. Just bought a 2019 K1600GT and I am thrilled. Great review, very insightful and it is clear that you spent significant time on the bike - everything you pointed out is spot on.

  • @JSweec
    @JSweec Рік тому +4

    Thanks Ian for the honest reporting of the stability issue!!

  • @michaelthompson9261
    @michaelthompson9261 Рік тому +20

    Very accurate review (2016 GTL owner). Fell in love with the K1600 riding it for the 1st time during our 2-up tour through the Pyrenees-Spain and France. All those 180+ degree switchback climbs had me a bit worried, but the bike simply crushed it and was extremely confidence inspiring. It pulled in every gear. I did get leg cramps from time to time and some stopngo traffic felt heavy and sometimes fearful or dropping it during a few lunch and coffee stops. My 5'5" wife gave her experience as a pillion 10 out of 10 so I purchased a used one as soon as we returned to the U.S. Happy wife.... From a styling perspective, I much prefer the K over the G which I have not ridden. Now that I'm used to all the character flaws of the K1600, I have no regrets coming from several Yamaha FJRs. Too much tech is a distraction for me. Just gimme the wind, engine sound and some curves and I'm good to go.

  • @rafaelcordoba13
    @rafaelcordoba13 Рік тому +2

    I was waiting so much for this review, I was in the alps and everyone I met on this bike said the engine was out of this world (so good)

  • @babycriminalchan5803
    @babycriminalchan5803 Рік тому +4

    Oh this is adventure touring and touring motorcycle indepth review HEAVEN 😍❤️ Thanks for doing all this Ian 🥺❤️

  • @sharingtheadventure
    @sharingtheadventure Рік тому +2

    Thank you for the VERY VERY honest review. I get so tired of other reviewers that just sing praises of how wonderful everything is...as if they're trying to write some flowery novel. Keep these coming!

  • @keithbell8960
    @keithbell8960 Рік тому +1

    I've always been curious about these. Thanks for the review

  • @robertfoster1919
    @robertfoster1919 6 днів тому

    Excellent review! Answered so many questions I had. Never heard of the stability till now.

  • @rkroz4005
    @rkroz4005 Рік тому

    As always your insights and compare/contrast based on first hand knowledge excels in this venue. Thanks for the great review!

  • @Rambler358
    @Rambler358 Рік тому +15

    You nailed the instability issue of the GA. I sold my 2018 Grand America because of it. I tried a different windscreens and tires to no avail, the stability issue was still there on the freeway. I’ve previously had a 2014 GTL, 2017 RT and other non-BMW bikes - none displayed the instability of the 2018 GA. I now have a 2022 GTL and no stability issues with it. BMW is aware of the issue, hence the bike being speed limited.

    • @paul463
      @paul463 Рік тому +2

      Sold my K1600B after a few months. Most unstable bike I've ever ridden and I've owned 17 bikes. Was made even worse in dirty air situations. Shame really. I loved everything else about the bike but felt very unsafe on it.

    • @thakrippla
      @thakrippla 6 місяців тому

      I just sold mine. Never should have listened to the internet no it alls. Nothing fixed the instability. Amazing bike, except it's not a touring bike if it can't handle any dirty air.

  • @RayzGarage
    @RayzGarage Рік тому +1

    , your videos are getting better and better. I wish you the best and thank you for your informative commentaries

  • @dennisossianderrmplmtcst2053

    Hi Ian, Thanks for another great review. That 1600 GT is definitely a dream bike, but the use ability of the Goldwing is comfort and confidence personified! Both incredible machines! Thanks for your honest and thorough review, I really, really appreciate it. Keep up the great work! Gratefully and Kindly, Dennis

  • @emak4558
    @emak4558 Рік тому

    Your review organization and analysis have improved greatly. Very good work , thank you.

  • @burtdanams4426
    @burtdanams4426 Рік тому +10

    Really like the editing and production on this video. The cuts were pleasant and your pacing was excellent. You're definitely stepping up your game!

  • @davechatfield2407
    @davechatfield2407 Рік тому +1

    I am an owner of a 2022 Grand America and found your review very accurate. The power is amazing! The BMW connected app is poorly designed when compared to Apple CarPlay/ Android Auto. The wobble is perfectly described as disconcerting, but is not not always present and believe it or not feels quite normal after some time in the saddle. I purchased the bike because the looks appealed to me and for long trips through the Rockies, and have yet to be disappointed. I am constantly looking for reasons to get back on and ride. Thank you for your review. Hopefully BMW, or any manufacturer for that matter, will watch it and listen to your critiques and some time in the future when I am ready to purchase a new bike the perfect bike will exist. 👍

  • @kaspersergej
    @kaspersergej Рік тому

    Oh, a honest bike review. What a rare sight, subscribed!

  • @danmccarthy2213
    @danmccarthy2213 Рік тому +1

    That was the most honest review I ever watched. I had a gold wind, made me a bobble head, the wind buffeting of my head I could just never solve, it also had a weird shimmy at about 65mph, the BMW K1200LT is the most confidence inspiring motorycle ride I ever had, the brakes are very touchy, they stop you in a heart bueat....I miss the goldwings low center of cravity and its better analog gages vs the high tech bs of BMW, but after a three hour ride, my butt was less sore on the Triumph Trouphy, the the goldwind, and finally the bmw....take that to the bank.

  • @joebrown3263
    @joebrown3263 Рік тому

    Excellent review. Thorough & honest, & very logically presented. Thank you!

  • @howierides
    @howierides Рік тому

    My friend owns a K1600GTL and I've ridden it. Your review was spot on.

  • @wardroland270
    @wardroland270 Рік тому

    Thanks Ian. Great job. Good info. God bless. Happy trails.

  • @olmanzomby7718
    @olmanzomby7718 Рік тому

    Great review on this Mad-Max machien! I currently ride the '18 GA and it's a hoot to ride. Fell in love with that screaming F-1 sound when you roll back on that throttle!

  • @616679
    @616679 Рік тому

    Thanks for this. I was having a hard time deciding between these two.

  • @RaptorPackAdventures
    @RaptorPackAdventures Рік тому +8

    Excellent review. I’ve owned the 2019 1600B for two years now and I love it. I will say the B also drifts just a little when traveling down the Highway. The stereos on these bikes absolutely sucks. Worst speakers ever. I love the new instrumental panel. I can say my bike is stock regarding the engine and pipes. I topped it at 145 MPH so the bagger will flat out move BUT because of you 😉 I’m selling it now to buy the 2022 1250 GSA. Great job Ian

  • @gisbertschleusser9950
    @gisbertschleusser9950 Рік тому

    Hi,
    thanks for the video, even it is different than all the other reviews ;)
    I have to say one thing: the camera setting for the final thoughts (you more in front, boke around the bike) is much better than the wide shot BC its gets you more in focus and not the bike. And that is good, because the topic is final thoughts and makes it more personal.
    I don't know if you do that on other video but please keep filming like this.
    Again thanks for another great and honest video!
    PS: sorry for my bad english

  • @stewartwilliams2535
    @stewartwilliams2535 Рік тому +2

    Very thorough and honest review. I have a 2018 GTL and love most everything about it. The bluetooth radio connections are abysmal, but I get around that by using my headset for music and phone. The engine is superb, and the quick-shifter is like butter. Highway pegs on the engine protecters are a life saver for extended rides. I have ordered a new GTL with the TFT screen and supposedly improved bluetooth, but now I wonder about my phone fitting the compartment. It is a heavy bike and not the best for around town. To counter that, I bought an R1250RS, which is lighter and much more nimble in town. I love the TFT screen and bluetooth connections. It makes a great commuting bike, and performance is fantastic, but it is NOT a touring bike. The quick-shifter is very clunky 1st-2nd and 2nd-3rd, and I'm adjusting to that. I considered getting an R1250RT as a 1-bike-fits all, but after renting one for a tour in the European Alps, I find it considerably underpowered compared to the GTL and heavier than the RS with the same clunky quick-shifter. I have not ridden the Goldwing. Service on a Honda would be much closer to my home, but it seems to scrape underparts much more easily than the GTL.

  • @FLYANDRIDE15
    @FLYANDRIDE15 Рік тому

    Awesome review as always, thank you!

  • @brettroman3218
    @brettroman3218 Рік тому

    Brutally honest indeed.thank you.this is a technological masterpiece for sure.

  • @motoexploration4169
    @motoexploration4169 Рік тому +2

    Lovely review, as always, Ian! Thanks for the effort.
    Would love to see a similar review for the R1250RT --- the famous State Trooper bike. Try to get the Alpine White version so that everyone on the street will pull over for you to pass.

  • @modahsadek4279
    @modahsadek4279 3 місяці тому

    I like your way introducing this review honestly❤

  • @DadHominem
    @DadHominem Рік тому +3

    I test rode the 1600GT in its second year of production, and was considering it as a replacement for my R1200RT. I LOVE the 1600GT. Gobs of power from any RPM from an engine that is as smooth as a prom queen's thighs, and handles like a bike 250lbs lighter than what the factory specs say it is. I ultimately swapped over to a 1200GS, but the memory of that 1600GT test ride leaves me with a longing in my heart. I can't imagine a better trans-continental tourer.

  • @javierr1blue
    @javierr1blue Рік тому

    I love the video specially you are honest in how a motorcycle perform. Keep it up.

  • @vancekeith5642
    @vancekeith5642 Рік тому

    Another fantastic video, thank you

  • @agonzalezcoxcox
    @agonzalezcoxcox Рік тому

    Congrats!!!! thanks for the honest opinion. I really appreciate it.

  • @user-il5zv9yk4b
    @user-il5zv9yk4b Рік тому

    Thank you for your thoughts and really cool video!

  • @mikec9162
    @mikec9162 Рік тому +26

    It is worth adding to your points that the Goldwing uses regular fuel, maintenance intervals are quite far apart, and their dealer network is abundant in NA.

    • @BigRockMoto
      @BigRockMoto  Рік тому +6

      Amazing points

    • @geneandjax
      @geneandjax Рік тому +2

      Up here in Canada, I never use regular fuel in any of my bikes, regardless of brand. The ethanol in the regular fuel actually attracts and absorbs water and really does a number on the tank and fuel system over the 6-7 months of storage over winter. The higher octane premium fuel doesn’t contain ethanol.

  • @DanielGoepp
    @DanielGoepp 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the review. We have the 2019 grand america version, so not quite the same, but close. We always ride 2 up and replaced the tires immediately, so we haven't experienced some of the same things you describe. We love it. Everyone has their own experiences, but for us, this bike is very close to perfect, and I wouldn't give it up for anything.

  • @rudisiebert7723
    @rudisiebert7723 3 місяці тому

    Best bike review I have ever watched!!

  • @felsenHome
    @felsenHome 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for the beautiful pictures!

  • @thomaskavanagh1209
    @thomaskavanagh1209 Рік тому

    Hey, I'm a big fan of your channel. I own a 2013 K 1600 GT and put about 16K miles on it so far, mostly on longer tours. I can say that the stability issues may be just with the B version or Grand America. I really haven't had that with my base K 16. Maybe a little on windy days, but, less than with other bikes I've owned. As far as comfort, I'm 6'2" and even with the GT model, there is very limited leg room. I put an bead seat cover on which gives me a little more room. I can also say that once moving, this bike is like a giant sport bike with engine power everywhere and very strong brakes. The luggage capacity is impressive, and the handling is excellent over about 5 mph. I think the only thing that makes me nervous is if I need to back up when facing downhill. If you're alone, this could be a problem, so, it requires planning. The newer ones come with reverse, so, if I was to get another one, I would definitely get one with the reverse option. Anyway, thanks for your reviews. You are definitely one of the best bike reviewers on UA-cam.

  • @alastairtheduke
    @alastairtheduke Рік тому +1

    So refreshing to hear an honeast bike review

  • @bjrnhjjakobsen2174
    @bjrnhjjakobsen2174 Рік тому

    Very nice review again😜 - nice to see that the subs are increasing - really deserved.

  • @stavrosk.2868
    @stavrosk.2868 10 місяців тому

    Probably the best bike reviews. I'm not a biker though I rode some in my youth and I grew up in the eighties in Limburg, Belgium (at the time the best motocrossers came from there and many of my friends were into bikes), but I kept a lively interest in mechanics. Concise, on point, honest, knowledgable ánd interesting/entertaining also for non-bikers.

  • @MrTrollosan
    @MrTrollosan Рік тому +48

    I have a 2007 k1200gt, and i had that "wobble" too over 90 mph. I blamed everything from the roads to the tires ... but it was the top box.

    • @skippynj1979
      @skippynj1979 Рік тому +5

      The b is in terrible, but of you put the suspension as 2 up, it went away for me.

    • @BigRockMoto
      @BigRockMoto  Рік тому +5

      Good info

    • @MrTrollosan
      @MrTrollosan Рік тому

      @@skippynj1979 hmm, I’ll have to try that then. Big thanks 👍

    • @skippynj1979
      @skippynj1979 Рік тому +2

      @@BigRockMoto the new model the suspension is automatic.. but the previous non tft version, set the suspension as having luggage or 2 up on the highway and she is rock solid.

    • @davidleblanc1964
      @davidleblanc1964 Рік тому +2

      This!!!!!

  • @Charlie-fc1mh
    @Charlie-fc1mh Рік тому +2

    That is an absolute beast! Seems like that big of a motor would make a little more than 160 hp. I sure wouldn't want to take it down a dirt road. Honestly, at 800 + lbs, I'd be a little leary about riding it period. I'd love to see one with a bren tune and aftermarket exhaust! I'll stick with the Africa Twin. As always, very good review Ian. You may make me change my mind about the AT eventually, lol.

  • @JakeyJay26
    @JakeyJay26 Рік тому +1

    I love how you don’t mask the speed. Ride safe and thanks for the great review.

  • @carelmenz7075
    @carelmenz7075 Рік тому

    Hello Ian, thank you so much for your work. You are able to explain complex things alive, so as when i do that in Person, this means a lot to me 😊 Bikes like this are for Traveler and that means you also have late Night and maybe Night trips as well. So we also need Information all about the Light ! Dont anderstand why the most all of tester Magazins copletely ignore that factor! In Europe to…

  • @Pantoja3136
    @Pantoja3136 Рік тому

    Excellent video and excellent and honest comments. I've owned a BMW (2005 K1200LT) and two Goldwing DCT Tour (2019 and 2023). The cost for servicing my Goldwing is very reasonable and there are multiple locations for Honda motorcycle dealers here in Central Florida. I like BMW motorcycles but there are very few dealers compared to Honda.

  • @palpatov
    @palpatov Рік тому

    You forgot the lay it down test ;) Awesome review, as always!

  • @paulfeasey2695
    @paulfeasey2695 10 місяців тому +2

    Stability issue is interesting: you have the back wheel thrusting below the CofG, the top box dragging above the Cof G and now they've added a small set of wings to lift the front wheel a little more (footboards). perhaps some downforce at the front to keep the wheel on the ground might help? Great review. Thanks.

  • @krazyklaas1531
    @krazyklaas1531 Рік тому +3

    I have been riding a 2012 K1600 for 2 years. Beautiful bike and a lot of fun. No drawbacks. Because I went on an adventure, (see "krazyklaas part one) the bike was no longer suitable because I also have to be able to go off road. Therefore I now have an Afica Twin 1100 the simple model. No comparison possible, of course. But when I see you riding and hear that addictive sound.......

  • @ohenrycooper
    @ohenrycooper 10 місяців тому

    Great review (2021) Goldwing owner. I absolutely love the Goldwing for all of your reasons and more. Put it in sport mode and the motor wakes up and becomes a sport bike. It really doesn't feel heavy at all. BMW does make some amazing bikes, but Honda's reliability is second to none.

  • @SmellingTheGrass
    @SmellingTheGrass Рік тому

    Had the 2017 K1600 bagger from brand new. It drank the BMW advantec oil like it was going out of fashion. I got rid of it after the gearbox recall and a faulty sprag clutch issue where it had sat for 7 weeks in a glossy fronted franchise dealership. The DCT Goldwing eventually put the smile back on my face and I have not looked back since.

  • @dry509
    @dry509 Рік тому

    Great review!

  • @MrVtwinTorque
    @MrVtwinTorque Рік тому

    Superb review as are all the ones I have seen from you; thank you. Conversely, unless I missed it, you did not mention anything about the clutch, quick shifter performance, the Rain Mode, the operation of the headlight orientation in four directions, the Reverse gear function, that there were 5 levels of heat for both the grips and the seat, and that models without floorboards have locking side compartments.
    Do you have commentary on these things? Thank you.

  • @linepulse
    @linepulse Рік тому

    BMW knows a thing or two about 6 cylinder engines. Most of my favourite BMW cars are 6 cylinder naturally aspirated engines. Love this vid!

  • @derekbender
    @derekbender Рік тому +2

    I’m quite impressed with how visible the dash is even through a video recording.

  • @brianalbee2881
    @brianalbee2881 Рік тому +2

    I demoed a GA and loved it. I compared it to the new wing and compared everything from fit finish to maintenance costs, etc. Spent weeks reasearching the BMW. In the end the BMW was very expensive to maintain and lack of delealers throughout the US were deal breakers for me. The engine on the BMW was unbelievable!

    • @youtubeaccount9058
      @youtubeaccount9058 Рік тому +3

      I think BMW tries to profiteer more from service than from sales.
      I hope they realize they're paying a penalty in sales.

  • @MWS1960
    @MWS1960 Рік тому +1

    RT guy at heart…and considering a GS. Had a few Goldwing in my life, but I honestly thing the RT is a very versatile bike.

  • @owenlushadv
    @owenlushadv Рік тому +5

    I’ve always thought I’d consider the 1600B if I was ever looking for more of a street tourer that wasn’t an adventure bike. And mainly for that engine!

  • @fredzuccarelli
    @fredzuccarelli Рік тому +1

    Agree with you 100% on your take on bmw technology issues......sold my k1600b....but still stuck with bmw and went with a '22 r1250rt. Great review!

    • @squid148
      @squid148 Рік тому +2

      I did the same. Had a 2018 K 1600 B and switched to a 22 RT. The RT is much lighter and easier in tighter situations. Of course it’s not as smooth or as good two up.

    • @SlvrBckBlck
      @SlvrBckBlck Рік тому +1

      I've ordered my GA. I had a R1250RT and because of the lack of power 2up I'm going with the K1600. Tight spots aren't a big concern for me. I'm kinda a big guy and power is a big deal to me. The RT didn't have enough for me but it was a good bike.

  • @pmwill7117
    @pmwill7117 Рік тому

    Much appreciated for your review. In fact, I was about to purchase this toy but after listening to your vid, I have to think twice.

  • @Voyagerss77
    @Voyagerss77 Рік тому

    Ohhhh wow finally finally finally touring bikes on the menu, what a engine and sound, Now We talk mate!!!!

  • @creepy847
    @creepy847 Рік тому +1

    for a touring bike it sure sounds good. I use to ride a S1000RR and I love the stock sound of that engine.

  • @TheCryptoHulk
    @TheCryptoHulk Рік тому

    Great honesty good and bad. I subscribed.

  • @the88lundberg
    @the88lundberg Рік тому +1

    It looks so good and sounds amazing

  • @sikandarrana6377
    @sikandarrana6377 Рік тому

    Excellent review.

  • @jaytate491
    @jaytate491 Рік тому

    Best intro ever.

  • @vasilypupkin2107
    @vasilypupkin2107 Рік тому

    Amazing bike! Thanks for review. The only problem it's too heavy.

  • @ToddEdmondson
    @ToddEdmondson Рік тому +2

    I own one and it's a dream. Been riding it all summer around British Columbia. The bike seems very safe, comfortable and the pull is like a roller coaster launch. Some nice features and a few "not sure why they did that? things" but overall it's a really great bike and the motor is simply unreal. I have the GTL without floorboards, so I don't have the wondering issue at all. Also agree the app is a pain vs. other ways of doing that.

    • @gandharaorganicfoods
      @gandharaorganicfoods Рік тому

      Did you studied about Honda Goldwing as well before buying BMW 1600..?? If yes do you regret of not buying the GW instead of your BMW 1600 gtl??

  • @jabjab1010
    @jabjab1010 Рік тому

    Good video. Just turned in my K1600 for a T120 Bonneville because of all the reasons you describe. . .and it made a bit say for all the reasons you describe. Ultimately gave up on all the tech (I had the full tech package on my 2016 GTL, and just connected my IPhone directly to my Carda PackTalk Bold. Don’t even get me started about the BMW integration of phone, GPS, Intercom. . .It was a $400 joke, the worst I’ve ever used. But that engine. . .my God that engine. I will miss it. Review the Bonnie though, you’ll have fun!

  • @clay1883
    @clay1883 4 місяці тому

    Very well done and honest review. That wandering around would wear me out especially in WY, MT, other places out west where the wind is never ending. That 100 MPH Granny control bothers me, not because I necessarily want to go over 100, but it sounds like a ghost hiding in the closet in reference to high speed handling and safety. I don't really like the '18 and up new model 'Wing for several reasons. For now I think I'll just keep my old low tech, steam gauge '13 Wing. I do like the competitive pricing on the BMW and that Indy car sound of the engine. I'm really not mature enough to own a 160 HP bike! Thanks for the ride along, Happy Trails!

  • @markbikersfit
    @markbikersfit Рік тому

    That sounds awesome 👏🏽

  • @rideronthestormc968
    @rideronthestormc968 Рік тому +4

    I had the wobble on two different k1600 Baggers. One of them was a demo bike , and the other was a bike that I rented in nevada, knowing that it was most likely going to wobble, and it most certainly did. I wholeheartedly agree, it is very disconcerting - not what I would want in a touring motorcycle.

  • @bicimoto5
    @bicimoto5 Рік тому

    I am glad you mentioned the instability issue with the Grand America. There is even a class action lawsuit against BMW. I bought one in 2018 and returned it after a few days later losing quite some money... My dealership would not admit there was an issue. As you said, this is unacceptable for this kind of bike. As much as I like BMW bikes (I still own a 1200 GSA), this time the company handled this very poorly.

  • @saturnoL
    @saturnoL Рік тому

    You’ve forgot to talk about the fact that this bike comes with a reverse gear! This is a great video i think you should have covered that as well! Good job

  • @outofcuriosity6031
    @outofcuriosity6031 Рік тому +1

    I have never seen you screaming inside the helmet this way..... And the bike is screaming too 😄🔥

  • @marcusturner5291
    @marcusturner5291 Рік тому

    Nice review keep up the good work does it come in automatic

  • @troygalbraith625
    @troygalbraith625 Рік тому

    Good review, the latest update to the K16 really disappointed on the tech side, I really see no benefit to upgrading from my 2018 K1600B, which has had perfect reliability and has never had the wobbling you experienced, the stock screens on all variants need to be replaced, all of them need a kick just before the lip help with the buffeting.
    The Goldwing is a great bike and for many people that is a better choice, but for some of us that engine is just to special to pass up
    All six cylinder bikes because of their rarity and impracticality are special
    Thank you for the insightful review

  • @gregfleenor9654
    @gregfleenor9654 Рік тому

    I own a K16GT. Rode a ‘22 Wing extensively lately. Put a few miles on a ‘22 Road Glide Limited CVO too. I wasn’t huge on the CVO although it was my 2nd favorite engine. Ahead of the Wing. The Gold Wing has more ponies but didn’t feel like it had much of a power advantage on the CVO. Brakes - BMW. Suspension - Honda. Seats - CVO but all 3 are the shits for anyone over 180lbs. Dealer Network - CVO. Wing 2nd here. Materials - BMW. Ergonomics - Wing. Public attention - CVO & BMW. Honda is invisable with these 2 around. Motor - BMW…& maybe the deciding factor. It’s plain addictive. Easily spanks the other 2. Fun factor thru the roof when u roll on the inline 6’s loud handle.

  • @gnrands50
    @gnrands50 Рік тому +18

    I was shopping for a sport bike in 2018 and was leaning towards the K16 because of the performance. I checked out a GTL at the local dealership (the Grand America didn't exist yet) and was terrified just sitting on it in the showroom. The seat was too high for my 29" inseam, and it felt heavier than my Chevy pickup. The '18 Goldwing Tour DCT fit me like a glove, was easy to ride, and I had to go with it. Thank you for the excellent and honest review.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 Рік тому +1

      Is that inseam to the ankle or to the floor? maybe the GTL had the 2 inch raised seat installed, meant for taller riders. I'm 6'2 with also 29" inseam (to ankle)

    • @gnrands50
      @gnrands50 Рік тому +1

      @@rykehuss3435 To ankle. I'm pretty sure the seat had been raised, but she still felt top-heavy. My toes barely touched the floor and I was afraid of dropping her in the showroom. Probably a great ride, as long as I never have to stop.

    • @k-rod2453
      @k-rod2453 Рік тому

      I can flat foot the gtl. The seat hight is 29.5 inches. I have a 28.8 inseam. The the 2023 wings seat is wider. The bmw is a little more top heavy. But any experienced rider would have no problem with this bike. Maybe a honda monkey would better suit your neefs.😂

  • @armslength2618
    @armslength2618 Рік тому

    I had a similar wobble back in the day with a GS1100G shaftie, fitted with aftermarket suitcase panniers. At a constant 160kmh+ on the Coquihalla (when it was new) it had a rotational dance that I eventually attributed to a big vortex coming off the back end of the bike. Dollars to doughnuts, that's probably what's going on with the GAm too.
    Depending on my pechant for a particular seating position I'd either shoot for a GT or GTL anyway. The GAm is a non-starter - if I wanted a 2022 Goldwing, that's what I'd get. No need to for some kludged panniers looking like worn bars of soap and a pair of droopy exhaust pipes on something with an engine that potent.

  • @Texas2Tires
    @Texas2Tires Рік тому

    Great overview. I was able to test ride both the R 18 B and K 1600 B on the same day. What a smooth engine that K 1600 has. I thoroughly enjoyed them both in different ways. @Texas2Tires

  • @frankward8003
    @frankward8003 Рік тому

    Very nice review.

  • @Alexanderpaal67
    @Alexanderpaal67 Рік тому

    Great video & review of a Great bike.
    You did not do the lift test on this.
    Wonder why
    Is it reverse on this bike ?

  • @6582rg
    @6582rg Рік тому

    I like the motor on this bike, but I bought the Gold Wing DCT because the peg to seat distance was too close. My knees were too cramped on the Beemer. I’ve had the DCT for 2 years now and added a Corbin seat and fully adjustable Helibar setup. For a touring bike it’s just hard to beat. I still love my BMW GS adventure and Yamaha FJR1300 too.

  • @Charlie-fc1mh
    @Charlie-fc1mh Рік тому

    I was just looking at this one again. That thing sounds like it has a supercharger or something. Way to heavy for me though. I hope you put something up pretty soon. Have a good weekend!

  • @AF-O6
    @AF-O6 Рік тому +1

    I’ve no interest in this category…but it was a fascinating video and I enjoyed learning about it.

  • @aarondeere
    @aarondeere Рік тому +2

    I did a test ride on the ga the other day and felt that bobbing. Not the end of the world but sure would get old on a long ride. That engine sure is silky smooth and that's the reason I bought a 1250rt instead. Need some rumble. I actually like the tft display. I think that bike needs a software update. Earlier versions the dial wouldn't control the volume. Most recent version fixes many bugs including that. Using the 4 quick buttons make navigation really easy. Great bike but expensive to service. I'll stick to the boxer.

  • @raymondfrank9202
    @raymondfrank9202 Рік тому +2

    I had one for 20,000 miles. Great bike.

  • @hgrasty
    @hgrasty Рік тому

    Fair review. I have the k1600b and love it, and compared to my test drive of the Goldwing, the latter felt soul-less even though I have no doubt it too is a great machine.

  • @tmmg66
    @tmmg66 Рік тому

    That thing sounds amazing!

  • @Robert8455
    @Robert8455 Рік тому

    Great review. Engine sound is a bit intoxicating and plenty of power. Really sad it does fall short in tech and the stability with this particular model. But I suppose you can't have everything right. I remember when the CBX and K1300 came out when I was in HS and I dreamed I would have one some day. Now BMW offers one that is so much better but now I'm not so sure its the right one for me.

  • @kevinmatthews365
    @kevinmatthews365 Рік тому

    What a close debate between a new GW and the K1600GLT. I want one or the other and can’t decide. Pros and cons to both. But that in-line 6 is amazing.

  • @karoslif9818
    @karoslif9818 Рік тому

    I prefer the smaller cc bikes because of weight but years back I made a big mistake buying a brand new Honda CTX700 instead of the Honda NC700, after spending over $1500 extra just trying to improve the ride comfort I finally gave up and bought the NC750 and have had no regrets, just the extra inch and a half of rear suspension and the upright seating position made a Hugh difference on my back

  • @Hogdriver88
    @Hogdriver88 Рік тому +2

    Lack of ACC on this bike is disappointing. Impressive power - way more than I would ever need! I see a 1250 RT in my future. Great review 👍

  • @RichDunn
    @RichDunn Рік тому

    Nice review. When comparing to the Wing, remember that back in the real world the Honda's oil and valve service intervals are more frequent, and when it comes to tech the BMW's suspension is far superior (e.g. electronic preload), as are its self-leveling and cornering all-LED headlights. Try getting a complex touring GPX to run on Car Play! And the Wing's ground clearance severely sucks, as often do its dealers too. The Honda's masterpiece is its peerless 7-speed DCT, top build quality, and unrivaled dealer network, with a solid reputation for reliability.

  • @deansandy1
    @deansandy1 Рік тому

    Great Video. Currently I have a 2023 tiger GT Explorer. I love everything about the bike although I am still getting use to the look which I am not use to. I sold my 2021 Road Glide Limited for it. Absolutely no regrets! Before I bought Tiger I almost bought a 2022 BMW GTL K1600. The engine blew me away but the size is the issue. Thats why I sold my Harley Road Glide Limited. I am thinking about the BMW R1250RT now and wanted your opinion as to what you would choose a 2023 Tiger GT Explorer or a newer BMW R1250RT. The look of the BMW appeals a bit more to me than the Tiger GT Explorer. I know every bike has something that is not perfect but wanted your overall opinion between a 2023 Tiger GT Explorer or a newer BMW R1250RT? I dont want to regret selling my new Tiger! It really does everything really well.