Ok so technocally it's a "hard-to-blockable" but damn... effectively unblockable, totally safe, breaks armor, Sub Zero let's you loop it... time to cook with Rain. 2:54 Using Sub-Zero is OP! 4:20 Scorpion Examples! 4:55 It armor breaks! 6:11 F3 Throw Cancel??
can Rain choose both options while cancelling overhead with throw: you can either cancel whole animation and start opressing again or you can just finish the throw?
Thanks for these great tech vids! As I commented to another person here, this mixup kind of gets jammed by delay wakeup. I've been playing it for a few hours today, many opponents realized it after 1-2 times and just delayed. The whirpool doesn't stay long enough. Sure, you can delay your own whirpool but then they can just react and not delay wakeup and actually punish you as you're throwing your whirpool.
@@Mufire1991 yeah delay timing gets rid of the perfect timing version, but if you so a slight delay (perhaps perform a micro dash) it will still work but will be easier to block the low-overhead. Delay wake up doesn’t change timing too much so you only have to delay a tiny bit, but yeah it sucks it beats the juicy perfect timing
Even if you don’t get the launch off of the F32, if you’re willing to use your 2nd kameo bar, you can just do F3 into Sub zeros freeze again and it’ll guarantee combo continuation. Heck sometimes they’ll still be standing and you can go into your F32 anyways
One tip is buffering your air projectile while jumping or ending combo. Something else fun with MOTARO you can combo off your air projectile the timing is tight.
Firstly: thank you so much for these rain videos. As I am learning this character you've pretty much taught me everything I know so far. Next I'm going to share what I found, not because of "oh content guy you missed this" but because I'd love for you to explore it and share it around. I found that if you cancel 211 (before ending in 2112) you can setup a trap that is unescapable due to the cancel adv on 211 being +67. After the overhead combo starter juggle f32 you can also set up a trap since we're +70 here (if you wanna be cheeky with resets I guess) You can also technically get one after a portal projectile hit but I don't ever see this realistically happening so uh...yeah. Also found that f213 in the corner leads to an unescapable f32 meaty where the only option is to armor out. You can also get this off of uf142 (the non comboing juggle) which I thought was potentially neat. Thank you for all the Rain guides! I'm looking forward to more Rain tech from you!
ayy been waiting to see this tech on your channel thank you for showing off the power of rain. maybe have a look at waterball cancel combos off cyrax cameo, it links fully on hit and on block it gives you true mix-up into good damage. also off your OH string you can fit another normal like f2 or s3 into launcher if you want to spend meter
Im struggling to get a combo started due to Rains slow speed compared to fighting say a scorpion/smoke. It has made me turn into a very defensive playstyle learning all their combo starters first to stop all their opportunities and give me an opening.
Same bro. Rain's frame data is low key ass. I find myself holding black and or back a lot and have to tell myself to be more aggressive with some matchups
I was wondering, could you include a teleport in rain's combos. I know you can combo after reptile spit with teleport behind them with motaro/kun lao, maybe it is possible to do the same thing with geyser or after another quick stun?
Im not sure if you put it in the video or i missed it but i saw roethor combo into charged bf1 from scorpion assist by doing overhead S3 down assist charge bf1 so you dont have to use cyrax or sub to get the super meaty whirlpool after
D'vorah in Mk11 got her low-hitting bug that could get into unblockable when paired with her overhead/short hop but it's pretty inconsistent cause the auto block. That's why assist is kinda underwhelming in mk1 for me, limited high low mixup and left right mix is not possible it's only effective for combo
I’ve been trying to get the first of f3 to hit before the low of the whirlpool for about an hour now. Constantly resetting and trying again and I’ve yet to hit it
Yes you can. I've been playing it for a few hours today, many opponents realized it after 1-2 times and just delayed. The whirpool doesn't stay long enough. Sure, you can delay your own whirpool bu tthye can just react and not delay wakeup and actually punish you as you're throwing your whirpool.
So you’re saying the whirlpool is blockable on wake up, but if you use an overhead while the whirlpool is active they have to choose whether they get launched or sucked in? So either way they’re getting hit by one of the two?
It more so depends on the combo going into it. The timing is easy you can just mash after the air string. But things like 1,1 ex db1 just won’t work because they push the opponent too far away sadly
@@mralberonenfgc thank you I just figured. It out. You actually can hit it off of 11. The key is to not mash the air string. If you just put the air string in one time, it leaves you plenty of time to summon sub-zero
I was having this issue too. The key is to input his air combo in really clean with no extra button mashing or accidental inputs. If you hit extra buttons the game registers those instead of the assist and delays it happening
@mralberonenfgc so if the over under hit within a few frames and they block the first hit of the combo they will block the second hit regardless of blocking low/high it just depends how close the low OH hit to each other
@davidantunes9900 hell yeah! Thanks man i think it is more prevalent in cameo fighters but another tuber did a video on this mechanic and it has me second guessing every mixup
Still super gimicky and doesnt work on good players.. rain kinda bad imo gameplay is based on gimicks and everything is reactable.. I didnt know u could cancel overhead into throw though ty for the video.
This game is good overall but this obsession with these ridiculous combos that bounce you around for 10 seconds needs adjusting. Fatal blows waste about 10 seconds as well. Some matches you spend more time watching your character bounce around and in a fatal blow animation than actually playing. I mean the next MK game will probably let you start a combo in round 1 and carry it over to round 2. Let’s just have inescapable combos that last a whole match. That’s real fun right?
@@ntp4003 oh I played it a lot. MKX and 11 had the same problem. I keep hoping we will get a more back to basics MK that requires timing and thought over button-spam flashy stuff all the time
@@davidantunes9900 Not every complaint about a game is a skill issue. I bet you play Dark Souls based on that response. Such a robotic response that requires zero brain activity
Ok so technocally it's a "hard-to-blockable" but damn... effectively unblockable, totally safe, breaks armor, Sub Zero let's you loop it... time to cook with Rain.
2:54 Using Sub-Zero is OP!
4:20 Scorpion Examples!
4:55 It armor breaks!
6:11 F3 Throw Cancel??
can Rain choose both options while cancelling overhead with throw: you can either cancel whole animation and start opressing again or you can just finish the throw?
Thanks for these great tech vids! As I commented to another person here, this mixup kind of gets jammed by delay wakeup. I've been playing it for a few hours today, many opponents realized it after 1-2 times and just delayed. The whirpool doesn't stay long enough.
Sure, you can delay your own whirpool but then they can just react and not delay wakeup and actually punish you as you're throwing your whirpool.
@@ommo289 as far as I can tell it can only be cancelled into throw and fatal blow
@@Mufire1991 yeah delay timing gets rid of the perfect timing version, but if you so a slight delay (perhaps perform a micro dash) it will still work but will be easier to block the low-overhead. Delay wake up doesn’t change timing too much so you only have to delay a tiny bit, but yeah it sucks it beats the juicy perfect timing
Its basically an infinite. THanks netherealm.
You can fully charge the projectile and have it hit off of whirlpool to also set it up
Even if you don’t get the launch off of the F32, if you’re willing to use your 2nd kameo bar, you can just do F3 into Sub zeros freeze again and it’ll guarantee combo continuation. Heck sometimes they’ll still be standing and you can go into your F32 anyways
I’m stealing all of this, thanks.
I was doing some meaty whirlpool setups with cyrax, but now that I see this I think this is the way.
Now that I’m starting to figure rain out I’m really enjoying using him with subzero and cyrax
Yeah Cyrax netting with two overhead combo into his jump combo ending with geyser
Try him with shujinko too
F3 throw cancel is noteworthy feature that the kombat cast would’ve covered. Since they didn’t, it must be a bug. Let’s enjoy it while it lasts.
best rain page rn
i love this channel, learned so much keep up the great work
How are u timing the sub zero freeze so good ? I can’t seem to get it to connect
One tip is buffering your air projectile while jumping or ending combo. Something else fun with MOTARO you can combo off your air projectile the timing is tight.
great video. can't wait to try this out
Cyrex you can combo with the spin into the waterpool making an unblockable 50/50.
Firstly: thank you so much for these rain videos. As I am learning this character you've pretty much taught me everything I know so far.
Next I'm going to share what I found, not because of "oh content guy you missed this" but because I'd love for you to explore it and share it around.
I found that if you cancel 211 (before ending in 2112) you can setup a trap that is unescapable due to the cancel adv on 211 being +67.
After the overhead combo starter juggle f32 you can also set up a trap since we're +70 here (if you wanna be cheeky with resets I guess)
You can also technically get one after a portal projectile hit but I don't ever see this realistically happening so uh...yeah.
Also found that f213 in the corner leads to an unescapable f32 meaty where the only option is to armor out. You can also get this off of uf142 (the non comboing juggle) which I thought was potentially neat.
Thank you for all the Rain guides! I'm looking forward to more Rain tech from you!
😮 i have to try this 211 cancel. Cheers
Babe wakeup new rain tech just dropped
ayy been waiting to see this tech on your channel thank you for showing off the power of rain. maybe have a look at waterball cancel combos off cyrax cameo, it links fully on hit and on block it gives you true mix-up into good damage. also off your OH string you can fit another normal like f2 or s3 into launcher if you want to spend meter
F3 to a throw actually isn’t a bug since the description does tell us that it can be canceled
Learned so much from u 🙏❤️
That overhead cancel into a grab looks like a bug. Good find tho Ima gonna learn rain tomorrow
Really appreciate the consistency with rain. You on PlayStation or Xbox
Delayed wakeup avoids this setup. Why is no one putting on delayed wakeup in training? At higher level simply always use delayed wakeup.
I’m going to make a video about ways to get around this, however it is also very easy for the rain player to make the setup beat delayed wakeup
I cant hit the sub zero freeze, they always hit the ground before sub zero even appears on screen? Is it patched
Put the input for sub on the first hit of the air combo
It made me main rain very useful
Im struggling to get a combo started due to Rains slow speed compared to fighting say a scorpion/smoke. It has made me turn into a very defensive playstyle learning all their combo starters first to stop all their opportunities and give me an opening.
Same bro. Rain's frame data is low key ass. I find myself holding black and or back a lot and have to tell myself to be more aggressive with some matchups
Rain has a good 2,2, a F1,2, and a 1,2,2. All of these can be combod off of
@embermist3910 define string
@embermist3910 think I fucked up the numerantation, I play on console so i think I messed up which buttons correlate to the numbers.
there’s other cool techs with rain that might be glitches but i don’t want him nerfed
I think the throw tech is a bug tbh
Rain have few combos
Rain needs a fast horizontal projectile that hits mid...that would make him a true zoner
Down Down Up... all day
@@Lanzetsu that's one of the slowest projectiles in the game, it has like a 35 frame start up
I was wondering, could you include a teleport in rain's combos. I know you can combo after reptile spit with teleport behind them with motaro/kun lao, maybe it is possible to do the same thing with geyser or after another quick stun?
I’ve seen people use it as an instant jump in because you’re mid air when you teleport
Rain "tech" at it's finest
Yep... your the boss
Im not sure if you put it in the video or i missed it but i saw roethor combo into charged bf1 from scorpion assist by doing overhead S3 down assist charge bf1 so you dont have to use cyrax or sub to get the super meaty whirlpool after
Cool tech but I fear this may be a gimmick. Gonna lab it out
But with that initial hit, it's such a long load time that nobody is going to let you hit them when it takes that long to load.
Rain also should have had a faster start up for whirlpool
D'vorah in Mk11 got her low-hitting bug that could get into unblockable when paired with her overhead/short hop but it's pretty inconsistent cause the auto block. That's why assist is kinda underwhelming in mk1 for me, limited high low mixup and left right mix is not possible it's only effective for combo
I’ve been trying to get the first of f3 to hit before the low of the whirlpool for about an hour now. Constantly resetting and trying again and I’ve yet to hit it
What about the unblockable protection mechanic? Is there enough space between pool and f3 to not trigger the auto block?
I do the water beam then use the ancient trap but once i do the forward 3 2 i dont get the bounce to continue the loop. Was this combo patched?
Could you delay wake up out of this?
Yes you can. I've been playing it for a few hours today, many opponents realized it after 1-2 times and just delayed. The whirpool doesn't stay long enough. Sure, you can delay your own whirpool bu tthye can just react and not delay wakeup and actually punish you as you're throwing your whirpool.
Flush to the sea !!!
I keep sending out the sub zero kameo too late, any advice on how to get him out faster or have rain land faster after the air combo?
I was having the same issue only press the 3 buttons you need for the air combo then the kameo will come up. If you mash more it won’t.
So you’re saying the whirlpool is blockable on wake up, but if you use an overhead while the whirlpool is active they have to choose whether they get launched or sucked in? So either way they’re getting hit by one of the two?
Yea pretty much unblockable and needs to get nerfed
@@itzthelightuse delayed wakeup and is no longer hard to block
Any tips to get sub-zero freeze to connect consistently?
It more so depends on the combo going into it. The timing is easy you can just mash after the air string. But things like 1,1 ex db1 just won’t work because they push the opponent too far away sadly
I didn’t know this when I was playing, but it’s good to check which strings into launcher work, but f3,2 always works booya
@@mralberonenfgc thank you I just figured. It out. You actually can hit it off of 11. The key is to not mash the air string. If you just put the air string in one time, it leaves you plenty of time to summon sub-zero
I think they patched this ?? I can’t hit sub freeze after ground bounce anymore 😢
I was having this issue too. The key is to input his air combo in really clean with no extra button mashing or accidental inputs. If you hit extra buttons the game registers those instead of the assist and delays it happening
@@TheHatpack I got it to work! Thank you
Can't get the Sub Zero to come out in time. Any tips?
Edit: It was mashing to many inputs in the air.
Yeah this game is pretty strict on mashing inputs, if you press one button too many it says no you will not get a combo sir
Spoiler... it will be patched
He doesn't know about unblockable protection
It’s not an unblockable
@mralberonenfgc so if the over under hit within a few frames and they block the first hit of the combo they will block the second hit regardless of blocking low/high it just depends how close the low OH hit to each other
@@Banditsborkthat's not true, at least not in this case. I just tested it.
@davidantunes9900 hell yeah! Thanks man i think it is more prevalent in cameo fighters but another tuber did a video on this mechanic and it has me second guessing every mixup
@@mralberonenfgcit is unblockable
Still super gimicky and doesnt work on good players.. rain kinda bad imo gameplay is based on gimicks and everything is reactable.. I didnt know u could cancel overhead into throw though ty for the video.
This game is good overall but this obsession with these ridiculous combos that bounce you around for 10 seconds needs adjusting. Fatal blows waste about 10 seconds as well. Some matches you spend more time watching your character bounce around and in a fatal blow animation than actually playing. I mean the next MK game will probably let you start a combo in round 1 and carry it over to round 2. Let’s just have inescapable combos that last a whole match. That’s real fun right?
U never played MKX?
@@ntp4003 oh I played it a lot. MKX and 11 had the same problem. I keep hoping we will get a more back to basics MK that requires timing and thought over button-spam flashy stuff all the time
@@zachtaylor5312skill issue
@@davidantunes9900 Lame response. Think of something more intelligent.
@@davidantunes9900 Not every complaint about a game is a skill issue. I bet you play Dark Souls based on that response. Such a robotic response that requires zero brain activity
That shit is so cheap