I cant believe there are original comp players still playing this game sometimes after seeing the immense level of bullshittery this game used to have in its most pure forms at comp level.
Holy shit ! This is insane lol ! I only started playing for honor last year during pandemic and fell in love with it but holy shit the old days were a freak show !
“It’s so intense here” as two Shugoki run around in circles lol I’ll say it again, I cannot believe people ever tried to take this game competitively serious.
The music perfectly shows how much of a circus season 1 is. We may shit on For Honor's current balance but things like this truly shows how fucked For Honor was at the start. You should try to find videos of the old gear system. That would be wild to see.
I’m not really into watching the 10 min long for honour duels you and others post when I’m not actively playing the game, but these shorter videos that show previous game states actually hook me. Good job havok 👍
I remember the person winning the 1st tournament did so by glitching, he recieved a handshake from lead production who told him on the stage he could not use that in later patches XD
Only broken thing I remember when playing early was when fighting Valkyrie, if she did a forward dodge light, you could GB her for free if you blocked, lmao.
And the season 2 unleashed the most broken launch character to exist in a video game. People complain about post launch gryphon and Hitokiri. But Launch cent was the most broken character of all tome
OMG Its coming back to me, how fucked those s1 tournaments were. I remember the main dev shaking hands with that guy who won like 3000 dollars at the tournament with kensei unlock tech, then pulled the guy up real close, still a firm as grip on the cup and said "You might have to change your play style soon"🤣
Shugo charge stand offs were hilarious. I remember the Mets back then. People would counter pick with PK and get one hit then run away. Before they added anti stall measures.
I remember in one ubi tourney for a new season, Aessari was calling everyone there a has been and pumping himself up to be the best of the best. The dude ended up losing twice in a row and got knocked out of the tourney xDD
enjoying the pure comedy gold, though one thing I do miss is how all the characters in this vid were fighting so uniquely even though it was all jank to the max
If someone misses this time, show him this video and see that the game here was broken and that we should never go back to that time, until the CCUe seems to be a better stage than it is.
Shugoki's demon's embrace being an instant game over used to be the most rage inducing thing ever. The moment I realize I hadn't dodged in time I'd just drop my controller.
@@puzzification98 How's old demon brace balanced? A move that was easily punishable a take a ton of health (Both of the miss and the confirmed attack) but also, being able to one shot in critical health. Current demons embrace may not be the best right now with the removal of HA, but hell, it isn't that unfair for the opponent as for the user.
@@veculon yep but I prefer high risk high reward. Just a personal opinion. Old demon embrace was way more satisfying to land. Critical health one shot? If you miss you die, if you got him he dies. Beautiful.
@@puzzification98 i remember i would always gb immediately after an opponents attack and demon’s embracing them when at critical health. Funniest shit.
I still remember back in the day, Season 2 when the first official duel tournament was going on. Everyone was unlocl teching, and Alearnkin was getting hate for winning the tourney from using it. That was a complete shit show I'm glad we're out of that nightmare
Watching these just reminded me of all the Spliced drama running away in ranked until the timer expired lol. Should give it a spotlight on one of these vids
So a valuable piece of context here is that "normal" players didnt really do theese things(except maybe duels but i've never played those).Generally in 4v4s theese things rarely happened
Exactly! People like to dramatize that S1 behavior and while it certainly sucked to have exploits like the flickering and other busted stuff, casual players in dominions very rarely acted like that. Nowadays optimal ganks are way more common with all the stun lock bullshit attacks and it's just as frustrating but most people turn a blind eye on that
I always used to want to play competitively and join tournaments back in the first couple seasons but watching this makes me realize why this game never made it that far
I still remember when the Dev went to shake the winners hand and said "you might have to change your play style" and he responded "Don't change anything" they both knew that was a load. Though I can't be too mad at the guy for using something that was in the game.
People keep saying that for honor at launch was the best time of the game... No it wasn't. (I do understand it was more enjoyable though, since everyone was new)
holy shit this is like wow. Part of me once upon a time was asking for a throwback gamemode where it is just busted fh but god i wouldn't be able to play it XD just being reminded of how the game really used to be man it is crazy. 100 percent appreciating how the game is now compared to back then.
I love this video, and I'll go on a rant about it a little now, as I did with my friend group, where most of them agree on most of my points: These were the mere beginnings of For Honor. It had potential, and a vision. It went with it! The mid life of for honor, which would be between 2 and 3 years ago, was the achievement of that potential, with just.. many 'little' fixes needed all around. Many things were still broken, but it was shaping up to be something amazing. That's where I've played the most. Late life of this beautiful game (into which I've sunk over 1300 hours into, over the course of it's lifespan, since Y2, the old gear/item rework) is just them throwing all of those plans into the water because the community has been crying for years... They've turned a methodical, rarely-read based, mostly defensive, slow, meta, and, entire game, frankly, and all of their plans, into the water. COMPARED TO OLD FH - current stamina pressure is non existent, and stamina bar basically means nothing on most new and reworked heroes. NOW it's possible to get absolutely, slowly obliterated by a DOZEN attacks, all of which require prediction, and the attacker would still, after having killed you, have at least 20% of their stamina back. Insane. No fear or risk of doing that whatsoever, everyone turned their brains down to 2%, because it WORKS, and why wouldn't they. Rarely who now punishes such playstyles properly. Unlike before where starring duels and tension, and methodical mixups were more common. And if they failed, it was the enemies turn to stamina pressure you. "True combos" are now non existent and most of them last just 1 attack - why would a Cent, or JJ, or LB, now do wallsplat punishes like before, when they all just get an equally worth, but faster, heavy, with continued chain pressure? No sense. Granted, Warlord charging was changed, and for good. I ain't saying the devs didn't have some good choices, but, as my people say, "even a blind chicken can sometimes peck a kernel".. or something. I tried. Anyhow. Everyone is getting unified - everyone is getting a 500 ms dodge heavy (or better (headbutt)), everyone is getting a 500 ms opener bash, everyone is getting an undodgeable and/or unblockable attack, everyone's attacks are getting sped up, and animations all look choppy because they were made for a slower game, not this. The basic mechanic, being zone option select (I'm all for axing all of the others, but zone was a predictable, easily counterable defensive move, which just made a smart attacker have more stamina pressure (it costs half of the users stamina bar, basically)) was removed... Might as well remove the feint button at this point, not that anyone is using it. Also, power creep is insane. Gryphon, Warmommy and Kyoshin are some of the worst this community has ever seen. You thought BP was bad? At least he flipped, sometimes... Not to mention all of reworked heroes. Everyone getting unified, getting all the mentioned stuff above. I don't know man. I fell in love with the mid life, this, now, is a totally different game, and I'm all too stubborn to be made to re-learn everything. Which I do, and yet, still, rep 30s just sometimes do basic shit and it WORKs because this game allows it to. So many times my friends shout "I know I have to dodge, and I did, I ain't stupid, the game just decided to give me nothing"... Man... I wish this game had that spark that it used to, I really do, but now it just tires me (with the endless bullshit it's allowing) after a half-an-hour session. Whatever. I hope it thrives, but it will do it without me. Also, the aforementioned friends and I are all rep 150-250 and diamond+ rank, as if that ever meant anything. Just giving background to my words and annoyance. But yeah. Good vid Havok :) Brings me nostalgia.
![The Queen Of Iframes [For Honor]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vMHqCZ0zPuc/mqdefault.jpg)
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Btw the conq (legionunchained) was the Orochi I fought in the video a few days ago (S0lips)
I cant believe there are original comp players still playing this game sometimes after seeing the immense level of bullshittery this game used to have in its most pure forms at comp level.
Holy shit ! This is insane lol ! I only started playing for honor last year during pandemic and fell in love with it but holy shit the old days were a freak show !
@@himarkabane it was awful, every brawl match was like the shugoki chases or warlords or zone flicker orochi
@@TSE_WOODY dedication to the game
I can’t believe the state for honor was in in the past😂😂😂😂
"It's so tense here" While two large Japanese men run in a circle 🤣
Lmfao I know man the commentary 😂
This was my favorite bit of the video, two shugokis spinning in circles with music
@@HavokYT what is your favourite character to play regardless of game mode
@@HavokYT I read this in havoks voice
Honestly back then It was tho…
dude that Shugo mirror at 1:11 looked ridiculous, if someone who didn’t know what FH was saw that clip they’d never guess it was a fighting game.
“It’s so intense here” as two Shugoki run around in circles lol I’ll say it again, I cannot believe people ever tried to take this game competitively serious.
To this day it’s hilarious
The music perfectly shows how much of a circus season 1 is. We may shit on For Honor's current balance but things like this truly shows how fucked For Honor was at the start. You should try to find videos of the old gear system. That would be wild to see.
Remember revenge in 1v1s? yuck lol
Uuuuh....im just gonna go ahead and call a stinky pile of shit a stinky pile of shit, even if smells a lot less
the old gear system loool every time i played i tried to build for max block dmg on shugo that’s all i remember of that old thing
But the Knights theme music was dope!
It sucked then but its just as bad now but for different reasons.
1:57 Conq full on breakdancing in the middle of the match lmao
And here I thought that maybe if I had started when the game came out I could be a better player..
I love how one thing is, was, and will always remain the same in For Honor.
"Thanks!"
"Thanks!"
"Thanks!"
"Sorry!"
"Sorry!"
"Sorry!'
This game probably had the biggest glowup ever lol
Eh
Nah it’s still pretty bad
@@AQS521 i mean, compared to this its pretty good imo
nah games so toxic
@@onemoreday9453 the players are toxic, the game Is Just a game
That last clip had me in tears 😂
I’m not really into watching the 10 min long for honour duels you and others post when I’m not actively playing the game, but these shorter videos that show previous game states actually hook me. Good job havok 👍
Why did you put a u in honor?
@@Deshaunlogan15 old English? US is the only country that doesn't spell it that way.
@@Deshaunlogan15 That’s how some places spell it lol
@@mrvalhalla6577 yea but the. Game has a name but let’s not argue over nothing :)
I remember the person winning the 1st tournament did so by glitching, he recieved a handshake from lead production who told him on the stage he could not use that in later patches XD
Only broken thing I remember when playing early was when fighting Valkyrie, if she did a forward dodge light, you could GB her for free if you blocked, lmao.
That was literally a thing on Glad until like a year ago. Fucking awful
Wasn't it the same if you blocked Wardens Zone?
That happened with a few characters, kensei dodge light, glad dodge lights, valk too
Truly horrifying times
@@Gravibee yep
Didn't conq at the very start of the game get a free gb after every blocked attack?
And the season 2 unleashed the most broken launch character to exist in a video game.
People complain about post launch gryphon and Hitokiri. But Launch cent was the most broken character of all tome
Cutscenes for days if a Cent got you on a wall, might as well just not even attemlt to do anything cause you arent getting out of it 😂😂😂
announcers are the true goats having to try and make the bullshit seem like pro level game play 😭
The two shigokis running around in circles and stuff with the circus music just kills me lol
i remember that guy who won that ubisoft tournament with nobushi’s unlock tech and called it easy when they rewarded him LOL
You just unlocked a huge memory, that was big game news at the time I remember .
The funny thing is ubisoft knew about all the unlocks lol, the same competitive player were trying to warn them
Clutchmeister on Twitch. He's actually a good player now.
@@syfonation6524 that guy is cluch ???
@@syfonation6524 nah i just went to check it out … it wasnt clutch
gotta admit they're brave enough to hold a tournament for thing barely even a game lol
OMG Its coming back to me, how fucked those s1 tournaments were. I remember the main dev shaking hands with that guy who won like 3000 dollars at the tournament with kensei unlock tech, then pulled the guy up real close, still a firm as grip on the cup and said "You might have to change your play style soon"🤣
the two shugoki’s man i’m crying 😂
Shugo charge stand offs were hilarious. I remember the Mets back then. People would counter pick with PK and get one hit then run away. Before they added anti stall measures.
So glad these clips are still around. The game was something different back then.
This needs to be an ad from Ubisoft asap
2:00 breakdancing Conq, refreshing.
I remember in one ubi tourney for a new season, Aessari was calling everyone there a has been and pumping himself up to be the best of the best. The dude ended up losing twice in a row and got knocked out of the tourney xDD
God seeing this is so nostalgic considering I essentially grew into adulthood with this game
enjoying the pure comedy gold, though one thing I do miss is how all the characters in this vid were fighting so uniquely even though it was all jank to the max
The music is of course fitting
I hope you keep finding these, they're gold! It's embarrassing what passed for "competitive" game play then!
1:57 what is that?! I’m dying 😂
Edit: Conq showing off those breakdancing skills lol.
God the glory days. If only they had dedicated servers from the start this game would of been so much bigger
If someone misses this time, show him this video and see that the game here was broken and that we should never go back to that time, until the CCUe seems to be a better stage than it is.
Honestly how the game was immediately prior to the ccu update I thought was golden. Then it became light/bashville.
Amazing how smooth FH has become
Intense shugo fights
Well done!! This had me rolling!! The generic circus music was perfect for this!! Brought me back to 2017. Great video!!
1:56 just your casual conq breakdancing
The conq break dancing at 1:56 😂
This hurts so much
1:58 damn conq got the breakdancing moves
Shugoki's demon's embrace being an instant game over used to be the most rage inducing thing ever. The moment I realize I hadn't dodged in time I'd just drop my controller.
Centurion cut scene death as you slowly watch yourself get fucked for the crime of being parried near a wall- that was more rage inducing.
And here we go again with Havoks nostalgia upload. Keep em coming!
Peak competitive gaming especially the shugos
And the commentators try their hardest not to sound disappointed too😭😭😭
Duuuuuuude, I remember insta kill hug from Shugo. That the funniest back in the day
Tha conq was break dancing 1:56
Speakers on tournaments were so cringe 😂
OML the shugoki shit had me laughing so hard, the music fit perfectly with how goofy that was
omg that shugo hug good memories
iwanto cry
1:58 the conqs corpse tho
"Honestly, I think both players are just scared to commit to something"
Now post a compilation of just warden insta kills, now that's nostalgic
That Shugo mating dance was hilarious 😂
Shugoki's old demon embrace was... "balanced"
It was. No pain no gain. If you missed the hug you were fucked. I prefer the old demon's embrace, as Latins said,"De gustibus".
@@puzzification98 How's old demon brace balanced?
A move that was easily punishable a take a ton of health (Both of the miss and the confirmed attack) but also, being able to one shot in critical health.
Current demons embrace may not be the best right now with the removal of HA, but hell, it isn't that unfair for the opponent as for the user.
@@veculon yep but I prefer high risk high reward. Just a personal opinion. Old demon embrace was way more satisfying to land. Critical health one shot? If you miss you die, if you got him he dies. Beautiful.
@@puzzification98 i remember i would always gb immediately after an opponents attack and demon’s embracing them when at critical health. Funniest shit.
@@thebigenchilada678 yeah, love that
I still remember back in the day, Season 2 when the first official duel tournament was going on. Everyone was unlocl teching, and Alearnkin was getting hate for winning the tourney from using it.
That was a complete shit show I'm glad we're out of that nightmare
I really wouldn’t last playing that knowing how much I rage now
I don't even remember that conq triple indicator shit thankfully
For honor has grown up so quick
That was a fun trip down memory lane 🤣
I'm surprised you didn't show off the Nobu Tourney winner doing the unlock tech tbh, was a pretty infamous day for For Honor back then
That's for an upcoming unlock video 😋
@@HavokYT ...oh god-
Watching these just reminded me of all the Spliced drama running away in ranked until the timer expired lol. Should give it a spotlight on one of these vids
So a valuable piece of context here is that "normal" players didnt really do theese things(except maybe duels but i've never played those).Generally in 4v4s theese things rarely happened
Exactly! People like to dramatize that S1 behavior and while it certainly sucked to have exploits like the flickering and other busted stuff, casual players in dominions very rarely acted like that. Nowadays optimal ganks are way more common with all the stun lock bullshit attacks and it's just as frustrating but most people turn a blind eye on that
For honor players now would mop the floor with these guys
aw man, it's been some time. Thank god the game is where it's at now
I like how ubersoft had the confidence to think that they have made a balanced fighting game and they are ready for tournaments
Wow that was genuinely such a wild ride to watch 😆 had me rolling from the very start with the conq mixup 💀
I always used to want to play competitively and join tournaments back in the first couple seasons but watching this makes me realize why this game never made it that far
Did someone saw the conquer breakdancing at 1:58 😂😂
Now I realize that the times back then in old For Honor people said were "fun" was just cancerous lmao.
Yup, nothing about the old FH was truly fun lol
I still remember when the Dev went to shake the winners hand and said "you might have to change your play style" and he responded "Don't change anything"
they both knew that was a load. Though I can't be too mad at the guy for using something that was in the game.
Demon embrace one shots - damn I miss those days xD
Okay i will never complain about this game ever again.
People keep saying that for honor at launch was the best time of the game...
No it wasn't.
(I do understand it was more enjoyable though, since everyone was new)
It somehow felt more like an mmo than a fighting game since everyone had their weird tech that felt like special abilities
1:10 -No, no i didnt see that
holy shit this is like wow. Part of me once upon a time was asking for a throwback gamemode where it is just busted fh but god i wouldn't be able to play it XD just being reminded of how the game really used to be man it is crazy. 100 percent appreciating how the game is now compared to back then.
I did not play the game when this was around but man I could picture me breaking my xbox over this
Ahhh yes the good old one shot demon's embrace
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
Thank you for these Havok, every time I ever go to shit on the current state I can remember these times... fuck man.
The conqueror 😂🤣💀
the old good one shot on red thingi with shoguki
Let's not forget how anyone with a bash and revenge could 100-0 anyone with impunity.
The conq is very good at break dancing. 1:59
God i love the old for honor systems 🤣🤣🤣
“TrUe CoMbO”
Bro why tf was the conq at 1:58 just spinning like a mfer
I love this video, and I'll go on a rant about it a little now, as I did with my friend group, where most of them agree on most of my points:
These were the mere beginnings of For Honor. It had potential, and a vision. It went with it!
The mid life of for honor, which would be between 2 and 3 years ago, was the achievement of that potential, with just.. many 'little' fixes needed all around. Many things were still broken, but it was shaping up to be something amazing. That's where I've played the most.
Late life of this beautiful game (into which I've sunk over 1300 hours into, over the course of it's lifespan, since Y2, the old gear/item rework) is just them throwing all of those plans into the water because the community has been crying for years... They've turned a methodical, rarely-read based, mostly defensive, slow, meta, and, entire game, frankly, and all of their plans, into the water.
COMPARED TO OLD FH - current stamina pressure is non existent, and stamina bar basically means nothing on most new and reworked heroes. NOW it's possible to get absolutely, slowly obliterated by a DOZEN attacks, all of which require prediction, and the attacker would still, after having killed you, have at least 20% of their stamina back. Insane. No fear or risk of doing that whatsoever, everyone turned their brains down to 2%, because it WORKS, and why wouldn't they. Rarely who now punishes such playstyles properly. Unlike before where starring duels and tension, and methodical mixups were more common. And if they failed, it was the enemies turn to stamina pressure you. "True combos" are now non existent and most of them last just 1 attack - why would a Cent, or JJ, or LB, now do wallsplat punishes like before, when they all just get an equally worth, but faster, heavy, with continued chain pressure? No sense. Granted, Warlord charging was changed, and for good. I ain't saying the devs didn't have some good choices, but, as my people say, "even a blind chicken can sometimes peck a kernel".. or something. I tried. Anyhow. Everyone is getting unified - everyone is getting a 500 ms dodge heavy (or better (headbutt)), everyone is getting a 500 ms opener bash, everyone is getting an undodgeable and/or unblockable attack, everyone's attacks are getting sped up, and animations all look choppy because they were made for a slower game, not this. The basic mechanic, being zone option select (I'm all for axing all of the others, but zone was a predictable, easily counterable defensive move, which just made a smart attacker have more stamina pressure (it costs half of the users stamina bar, basically)) was removed... Might as well remove the feint button at this point, not that anyone is using it. Also, power creep is insane. Gryphon, Warmommy and Kyoshin are some of the worst this community has ever seen. You thought BP was bad? At least he flipped, sometimes... Not to mention all of reworked heroes. Everyone getting unified, getting all the mentioned stuff above.
I don't know man. I fell in love with the mid life, this, now, is a totally different game, and I'm all too stubborn to be made to re-learn everything. Which I do, and yet, still, rep 30s just sometimes do basic shit and it WORKs because this game allows it to. So many times my friends shout "I know I have to dodge, and I did, I ain't stupid, the game just decided to give me nothing"... Man...
I wish this game had that spark that it used to, I really do, but now it just tires me (with the endless bullshit it's allowing) after a half-an-hour session.
Whatever. I hope it thrives, but it will do it without me. Also, the aforementioned friends and I are all rep 150-250 and diamond+ rank, as if that ever meant anything. Just giving background to my words and annoyance.
But yeah. Good vid Havok :) Brings me nostalgia.
What people call toxic now is nothing compared to what toxic was in season 1
Glad to see the attitude towards fun hasn’t changed. Also why did that conquer breakdance at about 2:00
I feel like an old man already
1:58 Damn nice breakdancing
You remember me not only 1st year but also super mario 64 with this song, how many memories in my childhood! 😍😌
I’m so glad the changes Ubisoft has done to this game lmao
Hey great content, love to see you stay creative, even with no support from the game!
I NEVER REMEBERD WHEN DEMONS EMBRACE 1 SHOTS YOU
Flashbacks triggering PTSD
I still can't believe they made a tournament with all those crazy stuff.
Now I remember why I quit back in May 2017 until mid 2018 😂
Omg I forgot how huge the graphic update was
I miss revenge in 1v1s and old school sugo hugs giving one hits not mention parries off of guard breaks
And here people are wanting them to revert back to season 0