No way. I got so hyped when i heard "Hail of Blades". I created a Shen rune page i tried only a few times with hail of blades and approach velocity in secondary tree for those juicy empowered Q trades without using E to get in. Worked really well but grasp is more consistent. And now there he is, my idol, xPetu, going hail of blades. A dream come true
Haha I've been trying to make Shen work in the midlane, as I love the champ but dont like the toplane. In ranged matchups HoB is definitely good, spellbook, Phase rush and Aftershock work fine too. I always go Divine since I'm a midlaner and need damage. The rest of the build is still new and I haven't tested it enough but I got so excited when I saw Ross upload the video. Oh btw Shen mid is viable because in midlane you naturally have more space to roam, so you can use ult more freely without losing towers and such. It's a counter against things like the Yasuo, Yone, Irelia, and most ad assassin's, but you want to avoid mages. They are a nightmare. Permaban cassio as that matchup is straight unplayable
@@darkienl5886 ok so i haven't got bad results. Usually I don't try to stomp lane but rater help other lanes and principally the jungler, participating in any fight I can pick. On 11 matches, I won like 9 of them. Anyways, I'm on a prety lame elo (silver 1) so maybe that's why it aint so bad xD Don't know what else the playstyle needs :C
"Kinkou Order Domain Expansion", I see Petu is a man of culture combining Ionian lore with the majestic anime that is Jujutsu Kaisen. Very much appreciated
@@Etoka the "nobody asked" thing is only funny in really specific circumstances my dude. Spamming it everywhere is j annoying or rude depending on who you're talking to
At 16:05 its better to hover your cursor over LB’s icon above the minimap when waiting to ult, because she is a high mobility champ and you can leave your mouse stationary that way
@twistdevii salufer Like Yamikaze, a otp Talon with an account named Talon Abuser, but in this case it doesn't count bc all Riven players are delusional virgins and to be an Abuser you need to be a chad
xpetu only having 129 cs at 23 minutes really makes me feel better about myself. i was always told there is no excuse to ever have bad farm but this game kinda gives me solace in the fact that no some games are just a struggle for cs.
For you see, while there may only be 1 Shen ult, there are always 4 people that think Shen should ult only them if they get into bad trades. Schrödingers Stand United dictates that players can never know if Shen would have been able to ult them until they get into a life or death situation and the shield either appears or does not appear.
@Random Username The feels. 15 % hp Fizz YOLOing in with a snowball and no ult, rage pinging because you refused to fly into range of enemy Malphite to ult him.
Hey! Kench is pretty strong now but Shen seems to be a counter. I would love to see you cover this matchup in a video. Love the content keep up the good work!
@@asay636 damn, I always struggle when someone picks tk in ranked. I end playing rengar toplane bcs I'm not sure if I can win him with shen, doesn't the fish outscale shen?
I saw the notification right when I woke up... I laughed and said, "Let me get some cereal Petu, I have to be focused on this mathematics course." Pressing play now.
Petu, I know this build is just silly fun shen honk damage but I think there is a legitimately busted shen build with Warmog first item. Warmogs is 100% gold efficient without even factoring in the passive, and if you build your mythic (frostfire preferably for mythic passive) and then Gargoyles stoneplate you have really high bhp (1550) and really high resistances (+85). Then, if you build titanic hydra you have 2150 bhp which equals a shield that big from Gargoyles and + 43 ad which is insanely gold efficient. Then you can just build thornmail or whatever, Abyssal into higher ap comps. I will keep spreading this shen build until it catches on, it just feels super strong.
warm first is really cool , kinda matchup dependent because you will lose on wave clear and damage overall, like its really a waste to get it vs a kayle where you can just bonk her , but i get it vs like a camile where you can take an equal trade but its actually a winning trade cuz u heal up
@@alaaentabi7879 you do lose out on damage, but shen base damage is pretty high with his q, and all the hp improves your all-in survivability disregarding the passive. You get so much value out of hp early as shen. Having the passive ticking is great, but honestly just having giga hp as fast as possible feels pretty wacky.
@@googol990 ya am such a fan of the build , what elo are you playing in ? the issue is ,I was abusing the build when it came out , was in low silver now am low plat high gold and sadly no wave clear is very punishable in the elo because you are mostly getting ur jungler behind or getting ur botlane dying which they are already very good at
@@alaaentabi7879 High silver at the moment, although I mostly play jax top. Shen is my secondary pick, so I don't have as many games on him. Generally do pretty well with shen though. My cs with him is always terrible, but I impact the game pretty substantially anyway.
i tried this build and it goes well but as a true shen player like petu once said its not about you its about your teammates so for me. The best build for shen is tankyness if youre tanky you can even land 2 or 3 taunt in a one clash that's super awesome
I've been liking sunderer, armour boots, abyssal mask, banshee's veil/hourglass (swap if team is heavy AD or AP) as I don't find all the extra attack speed very useful. I go teleport instead of ignite and basically perma-roam to cause trouble in the other lanes and for enemy jungler. I figure it doesn't really matter if Shen wins lane, since his kit is so utility-based and he's not really going to snowball. Doesn't matter if I'm 5/0 or 0/5, I can always shut down a teamfight with my kit's utility.
Mr Petu, my tip so that you won’t miss your ult is to point your cursor at your teammates pictures above the minimap. That way you’ll have more chances of saving them.
Hey xPetu! Love the content. Just a quick question, though. Do you ever get discouraged when you see a teammate spam ping you when you do something wrong? I know you have the "their mistake, my responsibility" mentality but it has to hurt, right? Especially when you saved them earlier, like with the trist.
@@johannestapper3003 I really enjoy how Scandinavians accentuate our words, it makes them sound proper but they are usually more subdued than how we speak, so it comes off very casual as well
Hey petu what would you do if your building mathematically correct shen and is already 2 items in and your fed but your team is feeding should we build tank items instead for the rest of the build or keep building the normal build or just switch builds all together cause I have done all 3 options with varying success?
This riven played that game pretty well, she lost only because your jungler ganked her, but still she was able to kill you under tower. Unlucky team for riven
I know the video has been out for a month now but I'd like to point out that Betelgeuse was pronounced wrong, the easy way to pounce it is 'Be-tel' (Rhymes with petal and literally 'jews' or 'juice' the final one can be said either or.
Petu acknowledge me :D PTA is a far better rune on shen for burst, ESPECIALLY when going for the empowered 6q bonk. Also, ap scaling on q is not so good, you will benefit more from the current health damage of botrk. Divine Sunderer gives both mpen and apen, your flat q damage does very well no matter what with this passive and yes, nashors tooth does benefit from it, but you are then kind of wasting the second stat. Also, building botrk on top of divine sunderer gives you 2 sources of sustain, partially eliminating the need for grasp and ravenous hunter, opening room for ultimate hunter. Nobody likes building ad on shen; because there is no apparent scaling in his kit. Other than, ofc, a 50% attack speed bonus for not playing like a chimp. 🌚
Maestro Shen: Esa es la razon por la cual Matematicamente hablando, Shen es muy optimo con estos items. Alguna duda? Estudiante: Si, por que cuando Vladimir activa su W, Warwick no activa su pasiva de sangre para rastrear a Vladimir? Shen: De la clase...
I'm pretty sure Shens W blocks alot more than just auto attacks... I've accidentally used it against a misfortune, she should have wiped the whole team but we all survived..
Void Staff is if they have a lot of magic resist if not then just get magic pen boots is enough so the answer would he tanks you kinda 1 shot squishies anyways
Petu, i have an answer... How do you carry as shen in silver, gold? I play in plat in my account and is ok, but in lower leagues i feel there arent a good mates to use my r, and shen looks not so helpful
Shensei Petu is actually also a maths professor at Harvard and he made all the mathematically correct league equations
The fact that you can say that and get 0 hate irritates me. When i said that people called me a simp, and gay.
@@firebreathingfish9782 the world is not fair little guy. Wy Tan is just built different.
@@firebreathingfish9782 Simp and gae :^)
@@firebreathingfish9782 who cares what random people say to you. That shouldn't bother you
@@firebreathingfish9782 LMAOOOO
xPetu: Saves the adc gets a kill and a dragon with his R
The Jungler: Pings ult 30 times
xd
Can't say I'm surprised, it's Tarzaned or a Tarzaned fanboi. The epitome of 2 brain cells glued together.
@@matte5404 you do know he plays on EUW?
@@SparSchwabe And your point?
@@matte5404 tarzaned plays on NA, and being a toxic jungle doesn't make you a tarzaned fanboy lol
@@vinisherdaotaku3241 Yet he has a high elo EUW account. The dudes name is literally Tarzan but with numbers in it.
No way. I got so hyped when i heard "Hail of Blades". I created a Shen rune page i tried only a few times with hail of blades and approach velocity in secondary tree for those juicy empowered Q trades without using E to get in. Worked really well but grasp is more consistent.
And now there he is, my idol, xPetu, going hail of blades. A dream come true
Haha I've been trying to make Shen work in the midlane, as I love the champ but dont like the toplane. In ranged matchups HoB is definitely good, spellbook, Phase rush and Aftershock work fine too. I always go Divine since I'm a midlaner and need damage. The rest of the build is still new and I haven't tested it enough but I got so excited when I saw Ross upload the video.
Oh btw Shen mid is viable because in midlane you naturally have more space to roam, so you can use ult more freely without losing towers and such. It's a counter against things like the Yasuo, Yone, Irelia, and most ad assassin's, but you want to avoid mages. They are a nightmare. Permaban cassio as that matchup is straight unplayable
@@darkienl5886 thank you, I was thinking to try this build on mid lane. Your comment helped me a lot!
@@jeremymory haha no problem man, post some updates if you want, I'm interested how it goes for you!
@@darkienl5886 This is quite interesting... i'll give it a try too!
@@darkienl5886 ok so i haven't got bad results. Usually I don't try to stomp lane but rater help other lanes and principally the jungler, participating in any fight I can pick. On 11 matches, I won like 9 of them.
Anyways, I'm on a prety lame elo (silver 1) so maybe that's why it aint so bad xD
Don't know what else the playstyle needs :C
"Kinkou Order Domain Expansion", I see Petu is a man of culture combining Ionian lore with the majestic anime that is Jujutsu Kaisen. Very much appreciated
Now I kinda wanna see an eye of twilight domain vs zeds shadows lmao or both vs nocturne demon
Timestamp?
Did anyone ask
@@Etoka the "nobody asked" thing is only funny in really specific circumstances my dude. Spamming it everywhere is j annoying or rude depending on who you're talking to
@@collinharris4848 who asked
Ahh, a true Mathematishen, indeed.
Ah, i see what you did there.
Trist: *goes into bad situation with Gwen 1v1*
Also trist: *pings shens ult 6 times because it's obviously his fault...*
25:39
4/4/4 kda and 444 damage from cheap shot. There's a Jhin main crying somewhere in the world
Me in the Jhin main
@@collinharris4848 ? You fucked the Jhin main? 😆
I'm always impressed how smart you trade in lane. I learn so much from your vids. Greatings from Germany :)
*one year ago xPetu makes an excel sheet*
*community now: mathematical builds !!!!! *
At 16:05 its better to hover your cursor over LB’s icon above the minimap when waiting to ult, because she is a high mobility champ and you can leave your mouse stationary that way
The Virgin Riven Enjoyer vs The Chad Shen Enjoyer
The Virgin Riven Player vs The Chad Shen Enjoyer
Both are 100% virgins tbf but Petu is cool
*riven abuser
@@gudadada in the context of league, some players can be Chad players, even though none of us interact with women
@twistdevii salufer Like Yamikaze, a otp Talon with an account named Talon Abuser, but in this case it doesn't count bc all Riven players are delusional virgins and to be an Abuser you need to be a chad
Anyone else yell at their screen to take the red buff before he jokingly said "some of you may have taken that red"?
bro, we all did...
i'd've do it
We all did
Lowkey freaked me out when he called it lol.
xpetu only having 129 cs at 23 minutes really makes me feel better about myself. i was always told there is no excuse to ever have bad farm but this game kinda gives me solace in the fact that no some games are just a struggle for cs.
His CS is bad because Shen has no waveclear without Bami passive.
Tbh, seeing everyone except janna pinging petu bothered me throughout the whole game
Fr bruh
For you see, while there may only be 1 Shen ult, there are always 4 people that think Shen should ult only them if they get into bad trades.
Schrödingers Stand United dictates that players can never know if Shen would have been able to ult them until they get into a life or death situation and the shield either appears or does not appear.
Probably bc enchanter supporters are usually in the same spot.
@Random Username The feels. 15 % hp Fizz YOLOing in with a snowball and no ult, rage pinging because you refused to fly into range of enemy Malphite to ult him.
@@AndragonLea Wise words by mike litoris
Oh shit… it’s Petu with the mathematically optical BEST Shen TECHNOLOGY
Optical :D
Genuinely my happiest cross over episode ever. Two genuine content creators, who create honest and entertaining content. Amazing stuff.
This man's voice makes me feel things I didn't know I could feel for a man
welcome to finding out more about yourself, featuring: a man
Nice pfp btw, I see a chad pantheon enjoyer
"We're going to do a little bit of damage here."
*Riven fucking dies*
10/10 math
I swear I have read "River main" and was thinking "when the hell did it became a role?"
Always has been
"We're gonna do a little bit damage."
Kills Riven
I love how you explain everything you do and why thank you !
Watching xPetu go with his team into unfavourable plays makes me feel less bad for doing the same. thank you, Shensei
I could say that I know everything bout Shen, but guy, you really surprise me in every video. I love your content
00:40 "a casa" jsndksbd grande xpetu
1:00 I actually thought you'd say "To optimice Fun potencial with Hail of Blades"
I am glad that your team is always telling you agressively who is alive. Very suppotive team.
This build is 10/10 most fun ive had on shen yet even when i go 6/15 still have a good time👍👍
Hey! Kench is pretty strong now but Shen seems to be a counter. I would love to see you cover this matchup in a video. Love the content keep up the good work!
I don't think Kench is countered by shen at all
@@shadows_star ok
@@shadows_star Shen has 2nd highest win rate vs TK right now. I can see reasons shen is good into TK
@@asay636 damn, I always struggle when someone picks tk in ranked. I end playing rengar toplane bcs I'm not sure if I can win him with shen, doesn't the fish outscale shen?
@@messi123hamvrugesa its actually vice versa, kench has way better early game but shen outscales
I saw the notification right when I woke up... I laughed and said, "Let me get some cereal Petu, I have to be focused on this mathematics course." Pressing play now.
XPetu videos are a gem. I subscribed.
Petu, I know this build is just silly fun shen honk damage but I think there is a legitimately busted shen build with Warmog first item. Warmogs is 100% gold efficient without even factoring in the passive, and if you build your mythic (frostfire preferably for mythic passive) and then Gargoyles stoneplate you have really high bhp (1550) and really high resistances (+85). Then, if you build titanic hydra you have 2150 bhp which equals a shield that big from Gargoyles and + 43 ad which is insanely gold efficient. Then you can just build thornmail or whatever, Abyssal into higher ap comps. I will keep spreading this shen build until it catches on, it just feels super strong.
Yeah, I've been playing with that one a bit too. It's definitely fun. I saw petu did a video on warmogs first item when they changed it.
warm first is really cool , kinda matchup dependent because you will lose on wave clear and damage overall, like its really a waste to get it vs a kayle where you can just bonk her , but i get it vs like a camile where you can take an equal trade but its actually a winning trade cuz u heal up
@@alaaentabi7879 you do lose out on damage, but shen base damage is pretty high with his q, and all the hp improves your all-in survivability disregarding the passive. You get so much value out of hp early as shen. Having the passive ticking is great, but honestly just having giga hp as fast as possible feels pretty wacky.
@@googol990 ya am such a fan of the build , what elo are you playing in ?
the issue is ,I was abusing the build when it came out , was in low silver
now am low plat high gold and sadly no wave clear is very punishable in the elo because you are mostly getting ur jungler behind or getting ur botlane dying which they are already very good at
@@alaaentabi7879 High silver at the moment, although I mostly play jax top. Shen is my secondary pick, so I don't have as many games on him. Generally do pretty well with shen though. My cs with him is always terrible, but I impact the game pretty substantially anyway.
Petu: We're optimizing one shot potential, not winrate
Me, a silver noob: wait they're not the same thing?
11:02 i got you, homie :D
i tried this build and it goes well but as a true shen player like petu once said its not about you its about your teammates so for me. The best build for shen is tankyness if youre tanky you can even land 2 or 3 taunt in a one clash that's super awesome
23:40 how did you know Xd what i was thinking LOL hahaha
We love to see the influence of the sock drawer
As a Lulu main, I must learn all the purple champions! And Shen defiantly counts
But... Why...?
It's not about why, it's about why not
why not buy every purple chroma skin in the game and becoming the purple main- dont blame me over bankruptcy later tho
you can tone it down to one per champ as long as it's purple
I stopped playing league, I never stopped watching xpetu with the shentec
easily winning the entire game and the team still flaming petu , the petu what the heck man
I've been liking sunderer, armour boots, abyssal mask, banshee's veil/hourglass (swap if team is heavy AD or AP) as I don't find all the extra attack speed very useful. I go teleport instead of ignite and basically perma-roam to cause trouble in the other lanes and for enemy jungler. I figure it doesn't really matter if Shen wins lane, since his kit is so utility-based and he's not really going to snowball. Doesn't matter if I'm 5/0 or 0/5, I can always shut down a teamfight with my kit's utility.
18:10 godly play by Riven
Oh yes. We’ve been waiting for more content ☺️👌
Mr Petu, my tip so that you won’t miss your ult is to point your cursor at your teammates pictures above the minimap. That way you’ll have more chances of saving them.
This build is insane ty love you
Oh hell yeah was waiting for this one
Thank you, Shensei.
nice i get to watch a brand new xpetu video before bed
Hey xPetu! Love the content. Just a quick question, though. Do you ever get discouraged when you see a teammate spam ping you when you do something wrong? I know you have the "their mistake, my responsibility" mentality but it has to hurt, right? Especially when you saved them earlier, like with the trist.
Why would I care about random strangers' opinions?
@@xPetu This is why you are the goat
Fun fact: when you wait for boots just a little while like that you're not actually delaying your return back to lane
Dude sorry if this is weird but I freaking love your accent, literally every r sound is like music of the spheres
That's finnish accent for ya, glad to see that people like it, as I am finnish myself too :D
Terveisiä Suomesta!
@@johannestapper3003 I really enjoy how Scandinavians accentuate our words, it makes them sound proper but they are usually more subdued than how we speak, so it comes off very casual as well
xPetu's team: 26 / 14 stomping the enemy
Also xPetu's team: *SURRENDER VOTE*
This game is legit full of losers, man.
23:35 nice conversation with us :D
24:30 Omg this Riven!
Yo petu do u think that darkseal shen not as starting item but after 1 kill is good?
Hey petu what would you do if your building mathematically correct shen and is already 2 items in and your fed but your team is feeding should we build tank items instead for the rest of the build or keep building the normal build or just switch builds all together cause I have done all 3 options with varying success?
Video was released 29 min ago. Video has a length of 29 min. This means that mathematically this is the first comment.
Petu have a lot of patience with teammates
Anyone else have nostalgia watching his team get ready for the lvl 1 bush strat?
Just obey Petu's advice, he has done the MATH.
This riven played that game pretty well, she lost only because your jungler ganked her, but still she was able to kill you under tower. Unlucky team for riven
I read the title as "River main" and didn't even find it weird. Now I see it wasn't River main.
Yoo, I came from DjokoLoL! Too nice vid, bro!
For 18 minutes I legitimately thought there was a quinn in the game....
I know the video has been out for a month now but I'd like to point out that Betelgeuse was pronounced wrong, the easy way to pounce it is 'Be-tel' (Rhymes with petal and literally 'jews' or 'juice' the final one can be said either or.
Hey Petu, it would've been easier to save LB if you ulted using her icon above the minimap.(16:04)
Petu, when should you use this build instead of a more traditional one?
admit it xpetu, your name is Kurt Wangner
Petu acknowledge me :D PTA is a far better rune on shen for burst, ESPECIALLY when going for the empowered 6q bonk. Also, ap scaling on q is not so good, you will benefit more from the current health damage of botrk. Divine Sunderer gives both mpen and apen, your flat q damage does very well no matter what with this passive and yes, nashors tooth does benefit from it, but you are then kind of wasting the second stat. Also, building botrk on top of divine sunderer gives you 2 sources of sustain, partially eliminating the need for grasp and ravenous hunter, opening room for ultimate hunter. Nobody likes building ad on shen; because there is no apparent scaling in his kit. Other than, ofc, a 50% attack speed bonus for not playing like a chimp. 🌚
I think the only thing Riven was surprised by was how easy the lane was?
bot hardcarry?
I feel like I'm missing something here
picking riven puts league on ez mode
Another build from Shensei, you know I gotta try it right away lol
Pretty sweet all I'm usually thinking about while playing is what I'm gonna have for dinner but I still win I'm more of a wild card.
I enjoy how you actually do this in high elo. unlike the guy, you showed at the beginning. He would never go against a riven like this. Great job
That was a great video! Keep it up! Btw shen W doesnt block minion auto attacks!
@mertege212 my bad. Just double checked it. It does block minion autos.
Maestro Shen: Esa es la razon por la cual Matematicamente hablando, Shen es muy optimo con estos items. Alguna duda?
Estudiante: Si, por que cuando Vladimir activa su W, Warwick no activa su pasiva de sangre para rastrear a Vladimir?
Shen: De la clase...
I'm pretty sure Shens W blocks alot more than just auto attacks... I've accidentally used it against a misfortune, she should have wiped the whole team but we all survived..
Another great shem build
3 men's stun into death LETSFUCKINGGO
My professor Shen is xPetu 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
love u petu when are u gonna bring back Graggy ice bro? :p
Mathematically correct Shen is River Shen ! No less,no more
I want to see more one shots!!
When the 0/3/1 riven wins the fight with the 3/0/3 shen. Yes riven is very balanced
I need an answer: void staff is better against squishes rather than tanks
Void Staff is if they have a lot of magic resist if not then just get magic pen boots is enough so the answer would he tanks you kinda 1 shot squishies anyways
Are those gank timers in your buy menu?
Riven is a broken champagne
Now we need a ross opening where he reacts to you reacting to him reacting to your presentation
10's of dmg should be the next meme
I knew divine sunderer would be on the list, but I'll be interested to know what the rest of the items are
Check the rossboomsocks video
Nashor Tooth Sorc Shoes Abbysal Mask Zhonya and (Gargoyle/Void/Titanic) as last item
so i actually went from a jg main to only using shen top/jg when i get auto filled loving shen
this guy is a genius
what is the value behind the magicpen boots in this build?
Gwen is nightmare fuel... but then again so are most recent champion releashes.
Petu, i have an answer... How do you carry as shen in silver, gold? I play in plat in my account and is ok, but in lower leagues i feel there arent a good mates to use my r, and shen looks not so helpful
The better I play as Shen in silver the more likely I find my teammates to assume they are unkillable Gods and run it down lane.
Mathematically Correct River Shen when?
Which match can i use this build ?
Whats with all the pinging in the chat
What about this for the jungle? Can shen clear decently fast?
13:11 wtf was that death noise 🤔
When shen is a math major
Oh I see, you are the culture of man as well :)..