“Good for Him!” - Rich Eisen: Why Former Jets #2 Overall Pick Zach Wilson Can Succeed with Broncos
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2024
- Jets fan Rich Eisen reacts to New York trading former #2 overall draft pick Zach Wilson to the Denver Broncos.
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Broncos management: We only gotta change the number on all these old Wilson jerseys we had lying around!
Walmart doesn’t pay old ladies a decent wage lol they sure as hell ain’t throwing those jerseys away
I know Wil Lutz took 3 but it’d be sooo funny if they kept 3 for Zach.
not even! we can just have Zach wear number 3!
Or just give him the the number also.
They have new jerseys
Zach Wilson is the winner of this deal. If you're a quarterback, not being drafted by the JETS is 3/4 of the battle.
If the Jets were to bring in a new QB this year, they wouldn't be in such a bad position: the line looks good (finally), and they'll probably pick up a third WR in the draft. ANYTHING so that we don't have to see Lazard on the field.
Zach Wilson is a winner just by still being in the NFL at all. All excuses aside, he's just not very good.
Good for Zach. Actually going to a team that can actually help a young QB succeed and not be made a scape goat. People act like he was bad all the time. Not true. He improved a lot last year. I'm a Jet fan since they were NY Titans. What they did with him was not good.
To hear this kind of positive talk about Zach Wilson is amazing!
Both Mayfield and Goff had more success in their first stops than any of the cast offs from the 2021 Draft. Mac Jones came the closest his rookie year, but Goff had multiple 4000 yard seasons in LA with a Super Bowl appearance while Mayfield had pair of 3800 yard seasons with a playoff win.
Goff had McVey and Mayfield had Stefanski both of which are great QB guys. Wilson had Saleh....
@@HoPeFuLCheWBaCCaStefanski is awful at offense
Goff had Prime gurley and mcvay. The scheme was great and carried them to a Superbowl. Goff got exposed. Without the scheme he couldnt make anything
Goff choked in the Super Bowl
Mac Jones was ok until Belichick put Matt Patricia in charge of the Pats offense. That killed Jones.
Watch Zach go to Denver and become the next Geno Smith. Sanchez, Smith, Darnold, Wilson. Maybe its not the QBs, but the Jets....
While Sanchez was no Joe Montana, let's not forget that he was good enough to go to the AFC Championship game two years in a row. Yes it was mostly the defense that Ryan built and coached, but Sanchez played well enough to help and not hurt most of the time.
@@shepshape2585 Mangeni built that team. Rex tore it apart!
@@user-ls5hy7sk2c Disagree. Rex just has no mind for offense, but he’s a defensive genius.
Geno smith is 10 times the QB Wilson is. I’m saying this as a Jets fan who has watched a lot of both
he will be at best the third stringer.... after sean payton will draft bo nix.
Please don’t lump Jared Goff into qbs who don’t succeed with their first team; he took the Rams to the SB and almost got the Lions there. That trade was all about money.
He didn't take anyone to the super bowl. Dude had 1 total td in the playoffs that year and only completed 55% of his passes with 2 ints, 2 fumbles and a 71.7 passer rating. He followed that up by being one the worst starters in the league the next 3 years.
Funny, I remember him getting traded because he couldn't get the job done.
I disagree. I live in the Rams market. There was definitely a very exact sentiment in the air that Goff was not the man to lead them to a ring and that Stafford was. It was believed that the Rams made the Super Bowl much despite Goff and that he was the reason they couldn't get over the hump in the big game.
Everytime I hear quarterback whisperer I have flashbacks of crazy eyes
Guru and whisperer, labels that are pretty much overused to high hell.
I mean of anyone in the league it's Payton though, right? Wilson was terrible under Hacket and he did much much better under Payton. I can only imagine a young guy who's coachable could really be nifty from a guy like Payton
This is all a part of Sean Payton’s long game of making both Wilsons better and showing that he’s a better coach than Nathaniel Hackett.
Man please Sean ain't teach Russ nothing 🤣
But, But,, Hackett did not have 70 dropped on him
I'm a better coach than Nathaniel Hackett.
@@silvergold2140 Hell tha 70 bomb ain’t got nun to do with Nathaniel Hackett being azz.. SP ain’t tha DC lol
@@markhammock1581 when your broncos become relevant let me know cause its been over a decade
Interesting twist to the fued between Hackett and Peyton if he resurrects Wilson!
Great segment Rich 💪🏽
I still support Zach through all the ups and downs. This is really good for him. I just want him to be a good quarterback even if he isn't top or anything. I just see LOTS of potential in Zach. (This is coming from a Chiefs fan btw)
Same bro I agree
You play against the broncos twice a year, I can understand why you support this move, lol. If he was going to be your potential starter you’re be singing a different tune, the guy is awful
Good Luck Zack! 👍...Plunkett had it worse and laughing stock/played with a murderer in SF, Bradshaw sucked and was in Noll's doghouse until Al Davis opened his mouth and Warner was stocking shelves after 8 man football and Landry crucified Staubach
@@Rainmankin nahh i wouldn’t mind if he was a starter on my team but he’s not. Mahomes forever lol
I just want to see him play behind a competent offensive line. He never had that in New York.
Good for Zach to take the place of his father Russ
😂😂😂
Bah! ---Russ was pussywipped (Ciara)😆----Zach will have nothing to lose with Payton
I thought their fathers were Jesus?
I keep hearing that he has potential. I hope that he can get steady leadership and mentorship from the staff and actually see if he's ready to do this full-time. Best of luck
I really hope it works out for Zach.
Good Luck Zack! 👍...Plunkett had it worse and laughing stock/played with a murderer in SF, Bradshaw sucked and was in Noll's doghouse until Al Davis opened his mouth and Warner was stocking shelves after 8 man football and Landry crucified Staubach
That Wilson screen shot shows him not using the laces on the ball 😂
Good for you Zach!
2:05 you can feel rich regret saying what he is about to say
he was trying to temper, or if he should say 'belongs'.
.. see, and then throws Jets and himself under the bus.
Sean Payton ain't no QB whisperer... Drew Brees was just one of the best quarterbacks of all time.
Brees was not even close to elite before he played for Payton though. He only completed 62% of his passes for 80 tds, 53 ints an 84.9 passer rating and 209 yards per game his first 5 seasons then in year 6 he got Payton as his coach and BOOM! Led the league in pass yards, 3rd in tds, 3rd in passer rating, 1st team All-Pro and was 2nd in mvp voting. He went from a good starter to mvp/hof level with Payton
@@AdamB34 And Payton went from meh coach who might get fired to this revered guru with Brees. He won one ring in what? 20 years? He's had one winning season without Brees.
@@Mgranadosv absolutely wrong. 2006 was his first year as head coach and that was also Brees's first year in New Orleans. They came to New Orleans together in the same year (2006). Payton wasn't on the verge of losing his job lol... you literally made that up completely. He was the offensive coordinator for the Giants when they went to the super bowl and the assistant Head Coach in Dallas with Parcells in the 5 or so years prior to getting the Saints job. I'm not sure what you think you gain by lying but ok 👍.
Fyi... Brees had 2 winning seasons without Sean Payton and in case you forgot, the year Payton was suspended (2012) the Saints went 7-9 and Brees led the league in ints and had the lowest completion% of his Saints career. They went 13-3 in 2011 and 11-5 in 2013 and Brees was top 5 in OPOY voting both years winning it in 2011. Gee, what was different in 2012? Because they still had Brees 🤣🤣
@@Mgranadosv lmao you have no idea what you’re talking about
@@Mgranadosv gotta love how your blatant lies get more likes than my 100% facts. Shows you how dumb the internet is
Zach's last full start (against the Texans) was arguably the best game of his career.🤷♂
Hope the best for Zach!
Good Luck Zack! 👍...Plunkett had it worse and laughing stock/played with a murderer in SF, Bradshaw sucked and was in Noll's doghouse until Al Davis opened his mouth and Warner was stocking shelves after 8 man football and Landry crucified Staubach
I remember a little under 3 years ago Rich getting very excited when someone (Tony Romo maybe?) said that Zach Wilson looked like he had the same skill set as Mahomes. That did not age well.
In terms of his arm strength he was correct. Have you seen the video of Zack Wilson's pro day? He's making throws nobody in the NFL other than Mahomes & Allen can make. One of them is a perfect strike to a receiver in stride running in a full sprint 60 yards downfield that he launches running to his right, falling backwards and off one leg. There's a UA-cam video of him in an NFL game throwing a 40 yard bullet on a frozen rope into a tight window. If he were in the current draft only Joe Milton would be in that category with him. He has generational arm talent, that has never been his problem.
IF he somehow puts his career back together in Denver with a great coach instead of a bad one like he had with the Jets, he's the steal of he decade. If he doesn't, they lost nothing.
I hope Wilson does well
Broncos really released Russ and gave up a 6 or 7th pick for ZW. Sean Peyton is either gonna be the greatest Denver HC ever or the biggest villain in the franchise history.
Let's ride
We know which one it will be...
Many of us already hate him
He’s not gonna win anything in Denver so we know which one it is.
Russ Wilson was a horrible trade. Broncos screwed up getting him and then that contract extension. Can't blame Payton if the salary cap is screwed.
Really hoping Zach turns his career around. Would love to see him take Broncos to the playoffs
My head exploded when he was picked by the Jets. It felt wrong wrong wrong from the get go. Never an energy matchup. Hope he can pull out enough confidence to have immediate success.
Let’s go Zach! I still believe in his skills, and I believe that he will soar with Payton
Well, guess we're tanking this year.
I agree. Thew Broncos will be a losing dumpster fire.
Proud of him now he will get a chance to do wat baker mayfield did ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Zack Wilson and his head coach Butch Patrick(Eddie Munster). Winning combo no doubt
Eddie Munster!!! 😂😂😂😂
Rich always the optimist 😂😂😂😂
I think Zach will do well there.
Stop thinking. No he won’t.
He won't. He sucks.
i am cautiously optimistic he will do better in Denver than he did in in NY. I will withhold any judgement until about week 4 of the regular season.
A win:win for Jets and Broncos. Good luck to the young man.
No one knows how good any of these QBs are going to be. They are educated guesses, but they still are guessing. We could see 4 QBs go off the board in the first 5 picks in a few days. 3 years from now how many of them will be traded for late round picks? That’s the reality. But for today. You can actually hear the regret in Rich’s voice. The Jets didn’t do Zach Wilson any favors, not the coach, the OC, the line, the fan base. They wanted to win and win now. Is Wilson a washed player? Maybe, maybe not. Nobody knows and that’s part of why we love this game. You don’t know when you could go from bad, to good, to great, to GOAT.
I totally agree … move back. Also I dig the new uni’s 🔥
Good luck to Zach.
Good Luck Zack! 👍...Plunkett had it worse and laughing stock/played with a murderer in SF, Bradshaw sucked and was in Noll's doghouse until Al Davis opened his mouth and Warner was stocking shelves after 8 man football and Landry crucified Staubach
Good for ZW. I honestly wish him well.
Rich I'm a browns fan I love how stick with your boys the jets
I love how baker is killing it
Kid is talented, but NY is a QB graveyard. Anyone the Jets would have picked would have been a disaster. Rookie HC, rookie OC, impatient fanbase, over the top media, etc. Name anyone that would have survived that.
Godspeed Zach Wilson. He seems like a good kid, after a bit of a rough start. I hope this works out for all parties.
Good move for Wilson
This is why Rich Eisen is one of the best out here 👏 not hate on the player a lot of people are hating on and just straight love and praise for the future of the young qb Sean Payton will make right by Zach Wilson greatest Redemption arc coming to Denver
Zack is not done...Fresh start YOUNB Man....Be Well😊
Good Luck Zack! 👍...Plunkett had it worse and laughing stock/played with a murderer in SF, Bradshaw sucked and was in Noll's doghouse until Al Davis opened his mouth and Warner was stocking shelves after 8 man football and Landry crucified Staubach
Nah, he's done. He doesn't have what it takes to succeed.
@@jproog41 Bah! Hello Jim Plunkett!
He may finally have the coach he needs to teach him a lot about reading coverages, quickly. He also needs an offensive line to protect him, receivers and backs with good hands, receivers who run good routes, and a defense that allows him to stay in the game. As a Jets fan, it'll be to see how he plays out the year in Denver.
Go Broncos! This gives us the opportunity to draft the best player available!
Bowers - but only to help Zack purpose
This changes absolutely nothing! Zach hasn’t proven anything at the pro level other than he’s a bad qb.
Watching Wilson really drove home the fact that quarterback can't block for himself, and he can't catch his own passes. But I hear most people know that.
Honestly, I think in a better spot Wilson could have been a decent QB. I've never like pairing a rookie HC with a rookie QB when the HC is a defensive HC. The Jets defense has been the best part of that team since Saleh took over. Has a rookie defensive HC ever developed a rookie QB well?
Nailed this one right on the head, Rich 😊
Love to see Denver go after Bowers now. Denver also needs a TE
That would be perfect, but he has to fall to 12,no trading up. Bowers is too good to slip to 12.
Lol... they are still going to try to draft a qb. Wilson isn't their qb of the future
👍, I dont like him and he;s nobody - but they will now for Zack.
@@latkagravas986No they won’t. Zach ain’t there future QB
Denver still needs to grab a rookie quarterback. Hopefully Nix!
If he had a chance this is it its this or maybe 2nd qb
He'll have Davis Webb there to help him out there & that's a bigger deal than you might think it is. He was part of why DJ had a great 2022.
This is a win for Zach. The guy hasn't had much support in NY with the coordinators, the excuse of an O-Line in front of him, the play caller forgetting they have Breece Hall, etc. This is a chance for him to start over and hopefully become who the Jets thought he was.
My thing is if the jets drafted Trey lance and we got Zach Wilson I think he’d be a pro bowl qb
I feel like the difference between the 2021 QBs and Mayfield/Goff is that the Browns and the Rams only moved off baker and Jared because they could immediately upgrade at the position, or at least they thought they could (Watson and Stafford). With the 2021 QBs, their teams aren’t really upgrading, they’re just flat out giving up and starting over without them lol
Super excited for Zach. I always felt he has more potential than he’s seen so far. He just needed the supporting cast.
Broncos have no supporting cast. Broncos roster is worse then the Jets right now
@@K1ngNazSports I agree with you there. I think Sean Peyton is a way better developmental coach than Salah & that the supporting cast will come.
From an outside perspective and looking at how things went I don’t like how Zach’s career turned out as the NFL and also the media have a BIG hand in ruining these young QB’s for sure! Zach had no offensive line, no separating receivers and not even a running game to help with pressure off of him or play action where his strength really lies! I hope he gets a chance to improve and then show out cause he got a raw start in the Jets!
If you doubt his skills look at the last minute of the Giants game with his third Center that has never took a snap at center before no timeouts got across the field in 70 yards within less than 24 seconds
I’m happy for Zack. Kid comes from a privileged family. Had a lot of growing up to do. I’ve seen some true skill from the kid. I wish him well. Shame he gets so much hate.
Get rid of a Wilson for another Wilson ? That has to work out for the best…. I mean it has too 😮
He's not there to be their long term starter or even start at all
I am happy for Zach, welcome to the Broncos, I agree everyone was blaming him for everything, he just needs the right fit and lets say it a freakin o-line that will actually do their job, you can't blame that all on the quarterback with that offensive line, that is the main problem of the jets.
without a doubt, the new york jests are absolute rookie QB destroyers. if you're a QB getting drafted by them, DON'T do it 😂
Denver is a franchise in Disarray.....so said to see a once proud franchise turn into this.....
I still find it ridiculous that people blame him for the jets situation, I watched nearly every jets game and that jets team was one of the worst managed teams i’ve ever seen. O-lines were horrific, plus they were alway injured, terrible offensive coordinators, and a defensive minded head coach that shouldn’t be a head coach on any team honestly. Wilson is a stud, rodger’s is gonna get hurt within 3 games again because he won’t have any blocking and he can’t scramble like Zack could. Dude has legs that he couldn’t use with that offense, has a cannon that he couldn’t use with that offense, and he’s not in sports biggest spotlight in new york. I see him killing it this season
I'm optimistic. He's got an arm and I think he has a higher ceiling than what we saw in New York. Will he be a long-term starter? Who knows, but I think we're going to get a better version of Zach Wilson at a minimum.
I am neither a Jets nor Broncos fan so I really don't care how this turns out but here's my take - I hope it works out for Wilson and he has a Baker Mayfield type season for the Broncos but I really don't think he is an NFL starting quarterback. Maybe a sturdy backup for mop up duty or the odd start here and there but not a guy you want to be your every week starter.
The Jets will trade up in the 1st round and select Rodgers future replacement and that will piss him off all the way to training camp. Im loving this
Good coaching, , no pressure, low expectations. The perfect storm. Gonna be interesting to follow this story
If Bronco’s take Bowers at 12 after passed up by Jets at 10 and Payton can develop Wilson, it will be classic same old Jets. Same Zach haters are anti Bowers
Sean Payton said Nathaniel Hackett did the worst coaching job ever then took essentially the same team and won twice as many games. Now Payton is upping the ante and taking the QB (Zach Wilson) that Hackett could not get to produce. Is it just me or does anyone else think Payton is doing an all out assault to discredit Hackett? Haha.
It would be pretty hilarious if Wilson pulls a Geno and goes out West and resurrects his career.
Zack played a few very good games with Jets.
Bo Nix is 24
The Jets were int the games?
The only thing Zach Wilson will accomplish in Denver is to make Broncos fans wish Russel Wilson had never left.
As a lifelong Broncos fan; I don't care which qb gets it done. Just somebody please get it done!!!
Imagine a former Hall of Fame candidate starting his journey of journeyman QB. I know Rich is all peach and roses with Jets players but what makes him think that the QB Whisperer won't throw another Wilson under the bus after his rookie contract runs out?
It's better to try and fail rather than not trying at all. Poor Zach Wilson. Does Dolphins have another game against the Broncos so they can put up another 70 point game? Only this time they won't score more than 10 points.
Zach Wilson doesn't need to be the franchise QB that rushes in to save the day. He needs to be a competent backup and it's a financial win for the Broncos who can then move on from Stidham
The Jets had the second worst O-line in football last season. The Giants has the worst. o
Damn it would be funny if Zach Wilson took number 3 for his jersey
It's the tale of the "Yin and Yang" Mile High quarterbacks!☯
I don’t know if Zach Wilson will ever make it in the NFL, but the Jets have done nothing to help him. The O-line is why the Jets can’t win. They gave up 64 sacks last year. They haven’t had a healthy offensive line for a full/half season, yet The fans blame Wilson and everyone else. The Jets don’t know how to run the ball. The games Zach struggled the run game never went anywhere. There were many games the last 3 years the Jets couldn’t even run 50 yards for the game. So blame the former offensive coordinator who was fired, blame Zach Wilson today, Nathaniel Hackett and Salah next year. Until you fix your O-line and establish a consistent run game you aren’t going anywhere.
I hope he does well. The fit just wasn't there with the Jets.
Bronco fan since 1972, ROTFLMAO at this commentary. Payton couldn't fix Russell, can't fix Zach.
He said that this might make it where they don't feel the need to draft a quarterback. that would be such a Broncos move to not draft a quarterback and instead stick with Zach Wilson
Honestly, I am just happy for Zach he gets to move back closer to a place he knows. A kid coming from Utah and being the starting QB for the New York Jets was not it.
He's almost in the same age bracket as Nix, Penix, and Daniels who are all being drafted this year. Denver should run him and the other QB's this year instead of wasting draft capital to move.
Run that Aaron Rodgers 2023 highlight reel when you get a chance, it's short.
😅
Hahaha What a classic jets move. Draft a qb top 5 and 3 years later trade him away. Hearing Rich trying to justify the move is just icing on the cake. XD
Sean Payton is not the QB whisperer, he's the Drew Brees whisperer.
Why is there this sensation that the latest Wilson experiment is gonna go way better than the last Wilson experiment? No one saw what the "QB whisperer" did with the last QB he was whispering to? If Russ wasn't talented enough to make it in Denver I don't see why Zach would fare any better.
It don’t matter what the Cursed Jets do at QB, until they get an off line in place.
The New York Jets are a dumpster fire historically for young QB's. Zach never had an O-line to protect him. Hopefully, Rodgers gets better protection and doesn't blow out his other achilles.
Wilson 4 Wilson
Denver huge upgrade from Russel Wilson to Zach Wilson.
🤣
Nobody said it's an upgrade
The Payton enshrinement of Eisen is inappropriate. Payton abused Russ as a scapegoat, damaged his reputation, blackmailed him with benching to alter his contract and yelled at him in primetime in front of millions to provoke a reaction and to justify actions against him. He also lost games on purpose and dropped several notes to damage Russ like "kissing babies", "wristband" , "simplify for Russ" ... Payton is a egomaniac who wants to be the star by himself with his alleged "genius offense scheme" and refused to tailor the offense to Russ special skill set. The PaytonBroncos are a complete disaster and will need years to recover from his reckless decisions.
It’s absolutely hilarious to me that ppl really think Peyton will fix Zach Wilson. Dude couldn’t even get Russ to play well and he’s won sbs and been in the league for a long time.
What are the Jets going to do at QB?
I guess stick with old man Rodgers.
Denver will trade down and get some ammo, like a 1st and 2nd and 3rd for the 12th pick, then I hope they go after Michael Pratt QB out of Tulane and also get DT Braden Fiske out of FSU and somehow get Will Shipley RB out of Clemson
Love the all white squad
@@babybison2881 didn't really notice that they were all white guys, just pick talent and not skin color,
Stayed quiet and fleeced the JETS 😂
I feel like the jets had a better run game and wide receiver group
As a Bills fan thank God he's outta the east 😂.
If you have someone in the wrong job, the fault is in the guy who hired him.
Zach’s mom is the bomb…😂
I thought he was a generational QB? I thought I heard that during the draft a few years ago.
You are thinking of Malik Willis, Trey Lance, and Bryce Young. ESPN absolutely GLAZED these guys for months pre-draft
Don't worry the jets are gonna "jets it up" , it's what they do.... Consistent failures.
As someone who actually follows the draft very closely every year, this was not said about him.
He is generationally a bad QB😂
Nobody credible said that