The problem with this view is that the Bible doesn't say that. And I don't mean that it doesn't use those words. I mean it doesn't say anything that means even the same thing. Rather, it says things that are incompatible with that view. For example, Peter in Acts 2 exhorts the people to be baptized "for the remission of sin." And in Acts 22, Anaias told Saul (Paul), "Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name."
@@MrRagingrapid look, you just put your idea over scripture. Peter says, "Baptism now saves you." Notice, he didn't say, "Water now saves you." Baptism is way more than water.
Baptism is a sign that conveys a spiritual reality of God's grace and forgiveness. Something actually happens in baptism. So it not just a symbol but conveys a hidden reality. “And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on his name.” (Acts 22:16) "Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, wthrough the resurrection of Jesus Christ, " (1 Pt 3:21)
Interesting take. However, there are many exceptions to what you say. In terms of church history, the earliest Christians were more accepting of different ways to baptize. In the 1st century document called the Didache, it says, "Baptize in running water, but if you have no running water, then baptize in some other water. Baptize in cold water, but if you do not have cold water, then use warm water. If you do not have a place with water, then pour water on the head three times in the name of the father, and Son, and Holy Spirit." Immersion baptisms as well as pouring baptisms were seen as valid by the first Christians. There was no debate over this issue. Each method symbolizes a different thing. You are right to point out that that immersion symbolizes dying and rising. However, baptism by pouring symbolizes God pouring out His Holy Spirit in reference to Ezekiel 36:25-27. which is what Jesus was referencing in John 3:10 (i.e. He's shocked that Nicodemus, a teacher, doesn't know what He's is referring to). "Baptizo" doesn't always refer to immersion. It can refer to "dipping" or pouring as well. (see Mark 7:3-4, the word 'baptisontai' is used in a sense not referring to immersion). This interpretation is further backed up by modern Jewish commentators. According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, "The pouring on of water was a sign of discipleship. Thus, Scripture says of Elisha that he poured water upon the hands of Elijah, meaning that he was his disciple. The hands may also be purified by immersion..." (jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10195-lustration). So I don't think we should limit the word "baptizo" to only immersion, because Scripture doesn't. I'll spare you the various arguments from the Bible and church history in defense of baptismal regeneration; the belief that baptism is not merely an outward sign of one's faith, but that it actually does something to the recipient as a free gift from God. I am glad that someone is providing a comparison of Amish beliefs with more mainline Protestant practices. I understand that seeing "Catholic" in my name might cause one to immediately dismiss what I say, but there are many Protestant denominations that hold to similar beliefs as I do. I hope you consider these and expand your perspective. May God bless you.
I just found your channel and i watched all of your videos and i have say thank you! I have wanted to learn about exactly what the Amish believe and while i found some helpful resources, none were as clear cut as your explanations. Thank you for your honesty and how you use the Bible to compare the beiliefs! You wonderfully speak the truth in love and you are always proclaiming the Gospel!
Sister, you can be an Apologist to the Amish community. They for sure will resist you, but greater is He that is in you- than he that is in the world. ❤
Girl, I am so impressed with how you compare the Truth of Scripture with your experience in the Amish community. You are quite the young Bible teacher! My wife died in 2018. I am looking for a new partner who can teach like you, and has such desire and interest in doing so!! God bless you!
Love your in depth explanations and your examples right from scripture. Your own life experiences make all your videos more relatable, even if the one watching was never Amish, as I never have been. We are all human, and we have all sinned. Unfortunately most of us at some point have also been taught wrong or not taught at all about what the Bible says or what faith should look like. Thank you for sharing truth!❤
You will not find a scripture anywhere that says baptism is a symbol. And you will not find a scripture anywhere where Baptism is said to be an outward sign. The ones who are saying this are making it up. I'm not making it up when I say that the scriptures tell us that baptism is for the remission of sins. And I'm not making it up that scripture tells us that our baptism now saves us.
The early church fathers sprinkled infants and seemed to believe that baptism plays a non-symbolic role in salvation. E.g. it was argued that maybe infants shouldn't be quickly baptized, but wait until some sins have accumulated to get more out of baptism.
I’m very excited for you. God has truly transformed you. Acts 2:38 says be baptized for the remission of sins. After 40 years of my spiritual journey I’m still learning. ❤
Very good. Its not the 'how'. Many places do not have the water in abundance. I remember my husband went into the sea to be baptised and had to walk out about half a mile to reach enough water.
How do people read "THEY BOTH went into the water" and conclude that baptism means to immerse without meaning the the pastor doing the baptizing also be immersed? So, is this girl going to find a nice Baptist church? Going into the water doesn't mean anything more than they got their feet wet.
God bless you and be with you. You have made it clear that you left because you wanted the truth, which Jesus is the truth. Continue to seek the truth and you will find.
at the 8:40 minute mark with your Acts 8:36 - 38,,,,sorry but verse 37 is not in your bible! You only read 2 verses, not 3. Its where the the eunuch confesses that Jesus Christ is the Son of God! One of the most important thing for a person to do when getting saved and yet its missing in many translations. Some have it in the text but footnoted as not in the latest manuscripts etc. This verse is in the KJV. IMHO,, I don't think people are baptized if they are sprinkled or poured with water. The word "baptize" means to immerse
I am aware that some translations take out a verse here and there. I wish they wouldn't! I was reading from the NASB. I have other translations I can read from as well. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
Yes. Nailed it. Means nothing without true repentance and commitment to JESUS Not man's organization. In the Bible everyone was immersed under water. Sprinkling is a catholic tradition. Not bible.
Thank you for your post on Amish Baptism. What you said about your new life is pretty much standard Anabaptist theology that I would hear at our Mennonite church. We baptize by immersion outside, after a persons repentance and confession of their faith in Jesus Christ. I think you will have a good opportunity to witness to the world and share Christ with them, as a lot of folks are interested all things Amish. By the way, I am from Holmes County and most of my neighbors are Amish. Bless you with your internet ministry.
The reason why the Amish do baptism by sprinkling, I understand, is because when their movement started, they had to hide from the government having their gatherings in secret, where immersion would be difficult, if not impossible.
Thank you for this work! Friendly note: please don't choose music that gives a sense of something bad happening. I presume that you've not had much experience with this, but this music gives a bit of a "horror movie" feeling.
Sister, I think you may want to read Matthew 3 13-17 learn what Jesus told John about baptism, (Suffer it be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness ) I cant judge if sprinkling is right or wrong , I can only tell you what the bible says ,Jesus when he was baptized went up straightway out of the water. Amen God Bless Best Regards Ed Hoening
I grew up in a faith in which salvation, essentially, requires being baptized. I know that we are saved by faith, but all through Acts there is a strong connection between salvation and baptism; baptism of 3000 receiving Holy Spirit, Ethiopian eunuch (note: Philip must have included baptism in his presentation of gospel since this person wanted baptism when he saw the water.), Centurian Cornelius, Phillipian jailer, Paul, and others. I am an old man (now in late 60s) saved when 11. It was only about 3 years ago, while reading 1 Peter 3:21, I came to understand this strong connection between salvation and baptism. In this verse Peter tells us that baptism is a symbol (NKJV uses word antitype but obviously with the meaning of symbol) of the resurrection of Jesus. Peter further describes that the act of baptism is "not the removal of the filth of the flesh", but "the answer of a good conscience toward God". Us Christians should want the world to know that we have faith in Our Savior Jesus Christ. Young woman, we can see Jesus shining through you.
It is as you say my sister. Water baptism is symbolic at best. I was baptized however we are baptized into Christ the moment we believe. The work and will of God is simple for our sake. John 6:29; 40 We desire to do good works - the Holy Spirit working through us as He works thru you, however there is no demand from God on us to perform. I am so proud of you in your escaping the darkness of false religion Keep on the journey friend!
I am sure the Apostle Peter would disagree with the "symbolic at best" part of your statement. (Baptism was established by Jesus Christ himself!, so it seems disrespectful to say it is symbolic at best.) See Acts 2:38 where he says "repent and be baptized ... for the forgiveness of your sins and you shall receive the Holy Spirit." And in 1 Peter 3:21 he even says, "Baptism now saves you"!
@AmishTransformed You are straight on the Gospel of Jesus. Many will come on your channel claiming to "see" but in truth thier blindness remains - who niether know the Word NOR the power of God - beware the modern Pharisees & Saducees.
ABroot is council.. I don't know what area your from but if it's like my area of Amish it's actually mostly about scripture and very little about Amish ordnung... Not sure why you talk about something you never experienced..
BAPTISO/Baptism, means to emerge. You left out a lot of Baptism scripture to make your point. Acts 1 - 19 shares every scripture and example for Baptism. The Apostles Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, the Lord . Scripture says Baptism does now save us. Also he that believes and is Baptized shall be saved, he that believes not shall be damed. Salvation is of the Jews not the Gentiles. Baptize the way the Apostles did. Acts 4:12 For neither is there Salvation in any other, for there is none other name under Heaven given among men where by we must be saved. " Jesus ")
I need a lot of Amish. Now I know how they are baptized. They say they have a German Bible. And I wonder is it like our Bible King James. But Acts 2:38 tell us the correct way to be baptized. That is not titles or sprinkling . If we don't come that way. Mark 16:16 tells you where you're headed. If you need more truth let me know, so you can come up higher in the word of God. Shalom
The Jewish people built large pools near the temple mount in Jerusalem that were used for their "many baptisms" that were required. And they went completely under the water. And every example in the New Testament is the same. Dripping water on the head has more the picture of a rain cloud over them, rather than a burial and resurrection. I agree with you though.
Sorry to intrude with facts: No where in either the Old or New Testaments is there an example of baptism by immersion. There are examples of baptism by pouring and sprinkling in the New Testament. The law of Moses doesn't instruct Jews to immerse, but to sprinkle.
@@jamesreed5678 The Ethiopian eunuch went into the water for his baptism. Jesus was baptized in the Jordan River. As you read through the New Testament there is a pattern to the baptisms. They happen where there are rivers and pools. Those are not required for sprinkling. A local well can supply water for homes and synagogues to perform sprinkling. But they were going to water sources that they could go into to do their baptisms. And the Jewish people perform full immersion in their mikveh. The word "baptism" isn't really a translation. It's just a transliteration of the Greek word that they use for "washing". Putting English aside and only using the New Testament, I would never think that people were simply dripping water on someone's head for baptism when all the examples are of people washing in rivers and pools in the New Testament.
If you examine the book of Acts, see that every baptism was done in the Name of Jesus alone. Not saying using the titles is going to effect salvation, because it's by Faith not by having every thing correct, but I prayed for a while and asked the Lord to show me how they baptized in the early days and He showed me it was always in Jesus Name. I got repabtized in Jesus Name after seeing that, it seemed more Powerful. I love the Name of Jesus. He says do all in the Name of Jesus. But thankfully He gives us grace when we don't understand that. In the end, it is by Faith and repentence towards Him. I'm always blown away though when I see people use the name of Jesus alone in water baptism because the tradition of speaking title in Matthew 28 where is says "In the NAME of... I see one Name there! Not names, just Jesus. That's the only saving Name hallelujah!
"Baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." I think you have a fair point. "Name" is singular. And, there's only one name the New Testament gives us to use. Conversely, maybe Acts speaks of baptizing in "Jesus' name" to distinguish Christian baptism from other baptisms.
Good question! It's complicated. There is no theological training. Each congregation is supposed to have a bishop, a deacon, and 2 preachers. Whenever they need another person to be a preacher (it can only be done twice a year), the congregation (members) votes on which man they think would be most suitable. The man has to have a family and doesn't cause trouble in the church. Then, the men who have the most votes have to sit in a row. Someone puts their German church song books in a row. One book has a piece of paper in it. One by one, the men choose a book and open it to see if they got the book with the paper. Then, whoever gets that book is the new preacher. They claim that whoever ends up with the piece of paper, that is who God chose to be a preacher. What disturbs me the most is how much they grieve for the new preacher. There is crying and weeping, people send cards and flowers and come visit day after day after day. The new preacher is required to go to a different congregation the following Sunday and preach. He is coached by the other preachers/ bishop on what to say. All the preachers always have to say the same things in Amish church services, and at the end they have to give the right to the other preachers / bishop to correct them on anything they said, then ask the congregation for forgiveness for anything that he might've said that would lead anyone astray.
@@AmishTransformed I have always attended a Baptist church, so that's my background. I think Baptist, Amish, and Mennonite have a shared history at some point a long time ago, but I really don't know much about Amish or Mennonite. I guess I find it interesting that somehow these 3 groups seem to be drastically different now.
@hayfieldhermit9657 You know, I honestly haven't quite figured that out. My understanding was because the new preacher has to dedicate the rest of his life to teaching the amish beliefs and be a lot more involved in the communities. He has a big responsibility. It doesn't make sense, I know.
Hello ma'am, Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:5 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 KJV To be born of water and of the Spirit you must obey Acts 2:38. The new testament started on the day of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2 when the Holy Spirit was poured out. Acts 2:38 is the new testament way of salvation. The Bible says that baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins, and that it saves us.(1Peter3:21, Mark 16:16, Acts 22:16, Acts 2:38) KJV
A good study is, read Acts 1 - 19 and mark every verse that says in the name of Jesus Christ, Name of the Lord, Christ Jesus etc. You'll see they never said father,son, and Holy Ghost. They always used the name of Jesus. Without exception. Trinity Baptism was started by gentiles and never practiced by the Jews or first Century Christians. I am open to peaceful and Holy discussion with anyone. KJV
It is great that you are open to peaceful discussion. Let me say that you would be missing something if your study did not include the Gospels. In Matthew 28, Jesus COMMANDED the disciples to go and make disciples of all nations, "baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (verse 19). That's a direct command from our Lord Jesus. If you are going to claim that baptism in the name of Trinity is a later invention by Gentiles, then you have to say that the Bible has errors in it, and not just any errors, but doctrinal errors. Now, you cannot say that the Trinitarian formula is a later edition to Matthew because there is no manuscript evidence for such an addition. In other words, the Trinitarian formula is in ALL Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, including the manuscripts used by the translators of the KJV. (See the note in the NET Bible Full Notes Edition. Furthermore, the Gospel of Matthew was not written by a Gentile. It was written by a Jewish Christian, who was an Apostle called and appointed by Jesus Christ himself, an Apostle who was present when Jesus originally gave the command. He was an eye-witness, and he would have heard it with his own ears. A better explanation is that "baptized in the name of Jesus," rather than being a formula for baptism, was the name for "Christian baptism." They were other baptisms. The Jews baptized converts to Judaism. And John the Baptist baptized Jews who had repented. The reason they would not have called it "Christian baptism" is that Christians were baptizing people before they were even called "Christians." To distinguish their baptism from other baptisms, they called it "baptism in the name of Jesus." So, we must conclude that the formula "in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" is biblical. But there is more evidence. There's a very early document known as the Didache. It dates to the first or early second century A.D. It was also, based on internal evidence, a Jewish Christian work. It contains instructions for baptizing converts. It says to baptize "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." So there is no evidence that the Trinitarian formula comes from Gentiles. It came from Jesus, it was handed down to us from the Apostles, it is commanded by Jesus, and it is found in the Gospel according to Matthew, who was a Jewish disciple and an eyewitness.
Hi ma’am, Baptism is for the remission of sins, and it is what saves us because it is how/when the blood of Jesus Christ is applied to our lives. “Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.” (Acts 2:37-39) Another clear example is Paul’s conversion. After the Lord appeared to him and he believed on him, he was told to be baptized to wash away his sins: “And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.” (Acts 22:16)
Hey I grew up in a Mennonite community. It sounds so familiar what you're talking about, It sounds exactly the same as the Mennonites are doing things, It is really confusing. While growing up, I have often wondered why they did things that they did. But I could never get a clear answer for that. I got saved 7 years ago now i see, it's not what the Bible tells us to do. The Things that they do that's just what somebody taught them to do. And that's how it goes from generation to generation, but they don't really look what the Bible says.
No, they do not. They believe they have to obey all the church rules and do what they're told to do in the Amish to have a chance to get to heaven. They believe that no one can know that they are saved.
Couldn’t agree with you more on the whole baptism thing. I don’t think the Amish are necessarily wrong in how they do it. Like you said the motive behind getting baptized…. The state of the heart, so to speak. You said it very well!
Again thank you for the discussion. I live in a small town less than 300. The Anabaptisthas come to out town and i recognize much of what you discuss. They have accepted us and we enjoy them .
I am Roman Catholic. You'll confuse non-Catholics if you say "the Roman Catholic Bible." There isn't such a thing as THE Roman Catholic Bible. The fact is, there are a number of Catholic translations of the Bible, and there are several Protestant or joint Protestant-Catholic-Orthodox translations that are approved for use by Catholics. I suggest you explain what makes them Catholic - they include the books that the Protestants took out of the Bible.
Thank you and God bless you very good. Bravo only one thing I just want you to reconsider when you say you don’t have to emerge in water. Sprinklers is good enough. Well number one, we don’t find in the New Testament when they baptized they sprinkled. And number two there’s two things that we Christian have to do is number one be part of the communion, which is we eat and drink and baptism in full emerge, because when you say as long as you believe in heart, it’s good enough well if you’re not gonna eat and drink, even though you’re gonna believe in hard, that’s not enough. Well, God bless you. I know you’re smart sister.
Baptism is an outward sign of an inward change! If faith hasn’t changed you then faith hasn’t saved you!
The problem with this view is that the Bible doesn't say that. And I don't mean that it doesn't use those words. I mean it doesn't say anything that means even the same thing. Rather, it says things that are incompatible with that view. For example, Peter in Acts 2 exhorts the people to be baptized "for the remission of sin." And in Acts 22, Anaias told Saul (Paul), "Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name."
@@jimmu2008regenerational baptism is false. The water can’t save you only Jesus can as per Ephesians 2:8
@@MrRagingrapid look, you just put your idea over scripture. Peter says, "Baptism now saves you." Notice, he didn't say, "Water now saves you." Baptism is way more than water.
Baptism is a sign that conveys a spiritual reality of God's grace and forgiveness. Something actually happens in baptism. So it not just a symbol but conveys a hidden reality.
“And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on his name.” (Acts 22:16)
"Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, wthrough the resurrection of Jesus Christ, " (1 Pt 3:21)
Interesting take. However, there are many exceptions to what you say. In terms of church history, the earliest Christians were more accepting of different ways to baptize. In the 1st century document called the Didache, it says, "Baptize in running water, but if you have no running water, then baptize in some other water. Baptize in cold water, but if you do not have cold water, then use warm water. If you do not have a place with water, then pour water on the head three times in the name of the father, and Son, and Holy Spirit." Immersion baptisms as well as pouring baptisms were seen as valid by the first Christians. There was no debate over this issue. Each method symbolizes a different thing. You are right to point out that that immersion symbolizes dying and rising. However, baptism by pouring symbolizes God pouring out His Holy Spirit in reference to Ezekiel 36:25-27. which is what Jesus was referencing in John 3:10 (i.e. He's shocked that Nicodemus, a teacher, doesn't know what He's is referring to).
"Baptizo" doesn't always refer to immersion. It can refer to "dipping" or pouring as well. (see Mark 7:3-4, the word 'baptisontai' is used in a sense not referring to immersion). This interpretation is further backed up by modern Jewish commentators. According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, "The pouring on of water was a sign of discipleship. Thus, Scripture says of Elisha that he poured water upon the hands of Elijah, meaning that he was his disciple. The hands may also be purified by immersion..." (jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10195-lustration). So I don't think we should limit the word "baptizo" to only immersion, because Scripture doesn't.
I'll spare you the various arguments from the Bible and church history in defense of baptismal regeneration; the belief that baptism is not merely an outward sign of one's faith, but that it actually does something to the recipient as a free gift from God.
I am glad that someone is providing a comparison of Amish beliefs with more mainline Protestant practices. I understand that seeing "Catholic" in my name might cause one to immediately dismiss what I say, but there are many Protestant denominations that hold to similar beliefs as I do. I hope you consider these and expand your perspective. May God bless you.
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Your cited Mark verse is baptism by sprinkling.
I just found your channel and i watched all of your videos and i have say thank you! I have wanted to learn about exactly what the Amish believe and while i found some helpful resources, none were as clear cut as your explanations. Thank you for your honesty and how you use the Bible to compare the beiliefs! You wonderfully speak the truth in love and you are always proclaiming the Gospel!
Sister, you can be an Apologist to the Amish community. They for sure will resist you, but greater is He that is in you- than he that is in the world. ❤
Apologist? You mean a critic to the Amish community. How about we spare sincere believers of self-righteous criticism?
I love how you use your experience and peoples curiosity about the Amish to share the Gospel. God bless you.
Yes, that is so awesome!!
Girl, I am so impressed with how you compare the Truth of Scripture with your experience in the Amish community. You are quite the young Bible teacher!
My wife died in 2018. I am looking for a new partner who can teach like you, and has such desire and interest in doing so!! God bless you!
Love your in depth explanations and your examples right from scripture. Your own life experiences make all your videos more relatable, even if the one watching was never Amish, as I never have been. We are all human, and we have all sinned. Unfortunately most of us at some point have also been taught wrong or not taught at all about what the Bible says or what faith should look like. Thank you for sharing truth!❤
Thank you for sharing some more of how the Amish do things. 😊
You will not find a scripture anywhere that says baptism is a symbol. And you will not find a scripture anywhere where Baptism is said to be an outward sign. The ones who are saying this are making it up. I'm not making it up when I say that the scriptures tell us that baptism is for the remission of sins. And I'm not making it up that scripture tells us that our baptism now saves us.
The early church fathers sprinkled infants and seemed to believe that baptism plays a non-symbolic role in salvation. E.g. it was argued that maybe infants shouldn't be quickly baptized, but wait until some sins have accumulated to get more out of baptism.
I’m very excited for you. God has truly transformed you. Acts 2:38 says be baptized for the remission of sins.
After 40 years of my spiritual journey I’m still learning. ❤
Very good. Its not the 'how'. Many places do not have the water in abundance. I remember my husband went into the sea to be baptised and had to walk out about half a mile to reach enough water.
Thank you for sharing this with us.
How do people read "THEY BOTH went into the water" and conclude that baptism means to immerse without meaning the the pastor doing the baptizing also be immersed? So, is this girl going to find a nice Baptist church?
Going into the water doesn't mean anything more than they got their feet wet.
Amen sister! Well said indeed
God bless you and be with you. You have made it clear that you left because you wanted the truth, which Jesus is the truth. Continue to seek the truth and you will find.
Sorry for the mistake, meet a lot of Amish.
at the 8:40 minute mark with your Acts 8:36 - 38,,,,sorry but verse 37 is not in your bible! You only read 2 verses, not 3. Its where the the eunuch confesses that
Jesus Christ is the Son of God! One of the most important thing for a person to do when getting saved and yet its missing in many translations. Some have it in the text but footnoted as not in the latest manuscripts etc. This verse is in the KJV.
IMHO,, I don't think people are baptized if they are sprinkled or poured with water. The word "baptize" means to immerse
I am aware that some translations take out a verse here and there. I wish they wouldn't! I was reading from the NASB. I have other translations I can read from as well. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
@@AmishTransformed you are welcome!
Believe, yes, but the key is is repentance. The man was repentant.
Yes. Nailed it. Means nothing without true repentance and commitment to JESUS Not man's organization. In the Bible everyone was immersed under water. Sprinkling is a catholic tradition. Not bible.
Thank you for your post on Amish Baptism. What you said about your new life is pretty much standard Anabaptist theology that I would hear at our Mennonite church. We baptize by immersion outside, after a persons repentance and confession of their faith in Jesus Christ. I think you will have a good opportunity to witness to the world and share Christ with them, as a lot of folks are interested all things Amish. By the way, I am from Holmes County and most of my neighbors are Amish. Bless you with your internet ministry.
The reason why the Amish do baptism by sprinkling, I understand, is because when their movement started, they had to hide from the government having their gatherings in secret, where immersion would be difficult, if not impossible.
That could very well be. I wouldn't be surprised because the famous thing they say is " this is how we've always done it and we can't change it".
No. It's a tradition handed down from Roman Catholicism. It's not Biblical. The very word means by immersion.
God bless you for being so courageous!
Thank you for this work! Friendly note: please don't choose music that gives a sense of something bad happening. I presume that you've not had much experience with this, but this music gives a bit of a "horror movie" feeling.
Okay, thanks for letting me know. I am changing the music on my upcoming videos. Hopefully, it's better.
Sister, I think you may want to read Matthew 3 13-17 learn what Jesus told John about baptism,
(Suffer it be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness )
I cant judge if sprinkling is right or wrong , I can only tell you what the bible says ,Jesus when he was baptized went up straightway out of the water. Amen
God Bless Best Regards Ed Hoening
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I grew up in a faith in which salvation, essentially, requires being baptized. I know that we are saved by faith, but all through Acts there is a strong connection between salvation and baptism; baptism of 3000 receiving Holy Spirit, Ethiopian eunuch (note: Philip must have included baptism in his presentation of gospel since this person wanted baptism when he saw the water.), Centurian Cornelius, Phillipian jailer, Paul, and others. I am an old man (now in late 60s) saved when 11. It was only about 3 years ago, while reading 1 Peter 3:21, I came to understand this strong connection between salvation and baptism. In this verse Peter tells us that baptism is a symbol (NKJV uses word antitype but obviously with the meaning of symbol) of the resurrection of Jesus. Peter further describes that the act of baptism is "not the removal of the filth of the flesh", but "the answer of a good conscience toward God". Us Christians should want the world to know that we have faith in Our Savior Jesus Christ.
Young woman, we can see Jesus shining through you.
It is as you say my sister. Water baptism is symbolic at best. I was baptized however we are baptized into Christ the moment we believe. The work and will of God is simple for our sake. John 6:29; 40 We desire to do good works - the Holy Spirit working through us as He works thru you, however there is no demand from God on us to perform. I am so proud of you in your escaping the darkness of false religion Keep on the journey friend!
Perfectly said!
I am sure the Apostle Peter would disagree with the "symbolic at best" part of your statement. (Baptism was established by Jesus Christ himself!, so it seems disrespectful to say it is symbolic at best.) See Acts 2:38 where he says "repent and be baptized ... for the forgiveness of your sins and you shall receive the Holy Spirit." And in 1 Peter 3:21 he even says, "Baptism now saves you"!
@AmishTransformed You are straight on the Gospel of Jesus. Many will come on your channel claiming to "see" but in truth thier blindness remains - who niether know the Word NOR the power of God - beware the modern Pharisees & Saducees.
Awesome video. I subscribed immediately.
ABroot is council.. I don't know what area your from but if it's like my area of Amish it's actually mostly about scripture and very little about Amish ordnung... Not sure why you talk about something you never experienced..
It is made by a conscious decision with understanding, therefore as babies it is a non-event.
BAPTISO/Baptism, means to emerge. You left out a lot of Baptism scripture to make your point.
Acts 1 - 19 shares every scripture and example for Baptism. The Apostles Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, the Lord .
Scripture says Baptism does now save us.
Also he that believes and is Baptized shall be saved, he that believes not shall be damed.
Salvation is of the Jews not the Gentiles.
Baptize the way the Apostles did.
Acts 4:12 For neither is there Salvation in any other, for there is none other name under Heaven given among men where by we must be saved. " Jesus ")
I need a lot of Amish. Now I know how they are baptized. They say they have a German Bible. And I wonder is it like our Bible King James. But Acts 2:38 tell us the correct way to be baptized. That is not titles or sprinkling . If we don't come that way. Mark 16:16 tells you where you're headed. If you need more truth let me know, so you can come up higher in the word of God. Shalom
As far as I know, the Amish only use the King James Bible, and half of it is written in English, the other half in German.
@@AmishTransformed God bless you and thanks for responding. Shalom
Biblical immersion is going under living water by oneself. There is nobody doing dunking.
The Jewish people built large pools near the temple mount in Jerusalem that were used for their "many baptisms" that were required. And they went completely under the water. And every example in the New Testament is the same.
Dripping water on the head has more the picture of a rain cloud over them, rather than a burial and resurrection.
I agree with you though.
Sorry to intrude with facts: No where in either the Old or New Testaments is there an example of baptism by immersion. There are examples of baptism by pouring and sprinkling in the New Testament. The law of Moses doesn't instruct Jews to immerse, but to sprinkle.
@@jamesreed5678 The Ethiopian eunuch went into the water for his baptism. Jesus was baptized in the Jordan River.
As you read through the New Testament there is a pattern to the baptisms. They happen where there are rivers and pools. Those are not required for sprinkling. A local well can supply water for homes and synagogues to perform sprinkling. But they were going to water sources that they could go into to do their baptisms. And the Jewish people perform full immersion in their mikveh.
The word "baptism" isn't really a translation. It's just a transliteration of the Greek word that they use for "washing". Putting English aside and only using the New Testament, I would never think that people were simply dripping water on someone's head for baptism when all the examples are of people washing in rivers and pools in the New Testament.
@@jamesreed5678Google the word “mikvah” and please learn how nonsensical your take is.
yeah small shrimp no need skin peeling
Its so great to see you seeking out the truth for yourself. God bless you. ❤
If you examine the book of Acts, see that every baptism was done in the Name of Jesus alone. Not saying using the titles is going to effect salvation, because it's by Faith not by having every thing correct, but I prayed for a while and asked the Lord to show me how they baptized in the early days and He showed me it was always in Jesus Name. I got repabtized in Jesus Name after seeing that, it seemed more Powerful. I love the Name of Jesus. He says do all in the Name of Jesus. But thankfully He gives us grace when we don't understand that. In the end, it is by Faith and repentence towards Him. I'm always blown away though when I see people use the name of Jesus alone in water baptism because the tradition of speaking title in Matthew 28 where is says "In the NAME of... I see one Name there! Not names, just Jesus. That's the only saving Name hallelujah!
"Baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." I think you have a fair point. "Name" is singular. And, there's only one name the New Testament gives us to use. Conversely, maybe Acts speaks of baptizing in "Jesus' name" to distinguish Christian baptism from other baptisms.
Do Amish ministers have formal theological training? How do they become a minister?
Good question! It's complicated.
There is no theological training. Each congregation is supposed to have a bishop, a deacon, and 2 preachers. Whenever they need another person to be a preacher (it can only be done twice a year), the congregation (members) votes on which man they think would be most suitable. The man has to have a family and doesn't cause trouble in the church. Then, the men who have the most votes have to sit in a row. Someone puts their German church song books in a row. One book has a piece of paper in it. One by one, the men choose a book and open it to see if they got the book with the paper. Then, whoever gets that book is the new preacher. They claim that whoever ends up with the piece of paper, that is who God chose to be a preacher.
What disturbs me the most is how much they grieve for the new preacher. There is crying and weeping, people send cards and flowers and come visit day after day after day.
The new preacher is required to go to a different congregation the following Sunday and preach. He is coached by the other preachers/ bishop on what to say. All the preachers always have to say the same things in Amish church services, and at the end they have to give the right to the other preachers / bishop to correct them on anything they said, then ask the congregation for forgiveness for anything that he might've said that would lead anyone astray.
@@AmishTransformed I don't understand Amish culture. Why do they grieve for a newly chosen preacher?
@@AmishTransformed I have always attended a Baptist church, so that's my background. I think Baptist, Amish, and Mennonite have a shared history at some point a long time ago, but I really don't know much about Amish or Mennonite. I guess I find it interesting that somehow these 3 groups seem to be drastically different now.
@hayfieldhermit9657
You know, I honestly haven't quite figured that out. My understanding was because the new preacher has to dedicate the rest of his life to teaching the amish beliefs and be a lot more involved in the communities. He has a big responsibility. It doesn't make sense, I know.
You need a better Bible! The KJV is the most accurate English translation.
Sprinkling is incorrect. Baptism follows repentance and is by immersion.
Maybe you need a better tradition.
Hello ma'am,
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:5 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 KJV
To be born of water and of the Spirit you must obey Acts 2:38. The new testament started on the day of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2 when the Holy Spirit was poured out. Acts 2:38 is the new testament way of salvation.
The Bible says that baptism in Jesus name is for the remission of sins, and that it saves us.(1Peter3:21, Mark 16:16, Acts 22:16, Acts 2:38) KJV
Yes, I agree, but we have to remember that baptism also has a deeper spiritual meaning. Not just physical.
very good
A good study is, read Acts 1 - 19 and mark every verse that says in the name of Jesus Christ, Name of the Lord, Christ Jesus etc. You'll see they never said father,son, and Holy Ghost. They always used the name of Jesus. Without exception. Trinity Baptism was started by gentiles and never practiced by the Jews or first Century Christians.
I am open to peaceful and Holy discussion with anyone. KJV
It is great that you are open to peaceful discussion. Let me say that you would be missing something if your study did not include the Gospels. In Matthew 28, Jesus COMMANDED the disciples to go and make disciples of all nations, "baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (verse 19). That's a direct command from our Lord Jesus. If you are going to claim that baptism in the name of Trinity is a later invention by Gentiles, then you have to say that the Bible has errors in it, and not just any errors, but doctrinal errors. Now, you cannot say that the Trinitarian formula is a later edition to Matthew because there is no manuscript evidence for such an addition. In other words, the Trinitarian formula is in ALL Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, including the manuscripts used by the translators of the KJV. (See the note in the NET Bible Full Notes Edition. Furthermore, the Gospel of Matthew was not written by a Gentile. It was written by a Jewish Christian, who was an Apostle called and appointed by Jesus Christ himself, an Apostle who was present when Jesus originally gave the command. He was an eye-witness, and he would have heard it with his own ears.
A better explanation is that "baptized in the name of Jesus," rather than being a formula for baptism, was the name for "Christian baptism." They were other baptisms. The Jews baptized converts to Judaism. And John the Baptist baptized Jews who had repented. The reason they would not have called it "Christian baptism" is that Christians were baptizing people before they were even called "Christians." To distinguish their baptism from other baptisms, they called it "baptism in the name of Jesus."
So, we must conclude that the formula "in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" is biblical.
But there is more evidence. There's a very early document known as the Didache. It dates to the first or early second century A.D. It was also, based on internal evidence, a Jewish Christian work. It contains instructions for baptizing converts. It says to baptize "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."
So there is no evidence that the Trinitarian formula comes from Gentiles. It came from Jesus, it was handed down to us from the Apostles, it is commanded by Jesus, and it is found in the Gospel according to Matthew, who was a Jewish disciple and an eyewitness.
Hi ma’am, Baptism is for the remission of sins, and it is what saves us because it is how/when the blood of Jesus Christ is applied to our lives.
“Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
(Acts 2:37-39)
Another clear example is Paul’s conversion. After the Lord appeared to him and he believed on him, he was told to be baptized to wash away his sins:
“And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.” (Acts 22:16)
I've seen an Amish documentary they seem like decent people 👍🙏.
Hey I grew up in a Mennonite community. It sounds so familiar what you're talking about, It sounds exactly the same as the Mennonites are doing things, It is really confusing. While growing up, I have often wondered why they did things that they did. But I could never get a clear answer for that. I got saved 7 years ago now i see, it's not what the Bible tells us to do.
The Things that they do that's just what somebody taught them to do. And that's how it goes from generation to generation, but they don't really look what the Bible says.
Do the Amish people believe that baptism brings about salvation?
No, they do not.
They believe they have to obey all the church rules and do what they're told to do in the Amish to have a chance to get to heaven. They believe that no one can know that they are saved.
@@AmishTransformed . sounds like they added a lot of works to their Salvation!!
Couldn’t agree with you more on the whole baptism thing.
I don’t think the Amish are necessarily wrong in how they do it. Like you said the motive behind getting baptized…. The state of the heart, so to speak. You said it very well!
They are wrong as are the Roman Catholics.
Again thank you for the discussion. I live in a small town less than 300. The Anabaptisthas come to out town and i recognize much of what you discuss. They have accepted us and we enjoy them .
You were never Amish but you speak about them? I’m sincerely confused.
I was born and raised in the Amish.
I was born and raised in the Amish.
Don’t use the King James Bible. Parts have been changed for convenience. Use the Roman Catholic Bible. Also learn about original sin, Adam and Eve.
I am Roman Catholic. You'll confuse non-Catholics if you say "the Roman Catholic Bible." There isn't such a thing as THE Roman Catholic Bible. The fact is, there are a number of Catholic translations of the Bible, and there are several Protestant or joint Protestant-Catholic-Orthodox translations that are approved for use by Catholics. I suggest you explain what makes them Catholic - they include the books that the Protestants took out of the Bible.
Thank you and God bless you very good. Bravo only one thing I just want you to reconsider when you say you don’t have to emerge in water. Sprinklers is good enough. Well number one, we don’t find in the New Testament when they baptized they sprinkled. And number two there’s two things that we Christian have to do is number one be part of the communion, which is we eat and drink and baptism in full emerge, because when you say as long as you believe in heart, it’s good enough well if you’re not gonna eat and drink, even though you’re gonna believe in hard, that’s not enough. Well, God bless you. I know you’re smart sister.
I agree with you. Thank you.