twelve o'clock high : S2E27 Cross Hairs On Death
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Twelve O'Clock High is an American drama series set in World War II. This TV series originally broadcast on ABC-TV for two-and-one-half TV seasons from September 18, 1964, through January 13, 1967; was based on the motion picture Twelve O'Clock High (1949).
One Of The Best Episodes Of The Show I Have Seen!
that is such faint praise when you think about it. You have seen .... how many? I rate it not bad. and implausible.
@@donofon1014Some viewers are easily pleased.
This reminds me of the time I was in the airport at Bien Hoa in Vietnam and two MP's were escorting an army colonel in handcuffs.
I would like to thank Dominic Frontiere for such a beautiful piece of music.
I think of it as a classic that fit the era.
Thank you! Appreciate your tribute. Always does amazing TV themes...
Did he also compose Outer Limits
Virgil Starkwell
Yes he did...the first season Outer Limits theme. There was a falling out between the Outer Limits production team and ABC (note OUTER LIMITS COMPANION and great OL websites like We Are Controlling Transmission; one website is a bit crass in discussions but all are first rate with information and images) and ABC took over production for the brief second season. THAT theme was a reworking of the old ONE STEP BEYOND score by Harry Lubin.
If I have my facts straight, among D.F.'s many other scores is the wonderful SEARCH theme from the 1972 TV show and a slightly softer variant from the TV movie aka PROBE.
@@AdmiralNelson1000 He did the Search theme as well? I haven;t thought of that since I was 12 y.o.
The Music for this show is very inspirational.
AmericanIsraeliJew. Whoever wrote the soundtrack had to be the same guy who wrote it for Star Trek. Oh, and Shalom.
@@bobbystewart7569 Dominic Frontiere. This sounds like his Outer Limits work.
The main and excellent theme is the same.
As a kid I never got Paul Burke, but watching the series again, Burke, who at least has a positive attitude, has grown on me.
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Yeah but too bad he displaced Robt Lansing. The conflict between Lansing and the Army brat Burke was ripe with the great storylines and the producers threw that away! Kinda like the conflict between Le May and the Bomber Mafia that M Gladwell has written about.
The new cast .. Season 2 on , came marginally closer to reality. The USAAF 8th was a kiddie corps. Memphis Belle got that right. This version of 12 Oclock is closer. Year 1 of this was 55 year olds and up. Sorry they were losing teenagers.. not portrayed here.
@@donofon1014 That's TV for ya.
Gallagher was much more intelligent and likeable than Lansing. He was not difficult to deal with and he had sass. He set out to prove himself as commander of the 918th, and he did. He doesn't have to be Lansing to be good or classic. He approached things his way, and he was no loafer. He certainly had it all over Lansing in looks and brains. He didn't mumble his speech, and he could be human in his relationships. 😊
They must cost the Army a fortune in tents, just about every time an aircraft makes belly landing they take out two of them.
It is old time TV like this that got me into studying history, and now I hate TV, how ironic.
Interesting!
this was one of the greatest!
Camanscy plays a great role in this Show 👏 👍
Komansky
That pesky P 47 thunderbolt downs another Fortress. Somebody get that traitor.!!!
Frank Overton and Roger Perry would later appear in separate episodes of STAR TREK.
Major Christopher in tomorrow is yesterday.
I wonder how close this episode is to being true. It had to happen somewhere in the service.
I was on as Navy ship and the XO met an army officer at the o club .
He was invited to visit the ship sometime .
The guy showed up and got a tour.
Later he went on a weekend trip to sea.
Turns out he was an imposter , the Navy guys did not know what Army orders looked like so easy to fool!
I preferred Lansing over Burke. Lansing was tougher and more spit-and-polish. I have the feeling that instead of commending CPT Carpenter (Stone), Lansing would have chewed his ass out before turning him over to the MPs. I also didn't like the way that they easily killed Lansing off. If I would have had any input into the script, I would had it as Lansing being promoted to Major General and then transferred back to the states for a staff job.
Sounds like a better way of handling the issue. There must have been some very unfortunate fussing behind the scenes that led to unsatisfactory resolutions to the problem.
Capt. Carpenter {Stoner} may have been incorrigible but turned out to be a great pilot when the chips were down. I wished it would have ended where all
charges were reduced to bad judgement {or something like that} and Col. Gallagher got him back. Great show. Tony Franciscus was good in this one.
this is fiction. your story works for you... enjoy it. He would in fact have been incarcerated. Leavenworth likley.
No landing checklist?
Almost two full seasons and the star of the show still can't be bothered to render the correct hand salute.
Actually - he's just accurately playing an Air Force Officer.
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Although I loved it as a kid, one of the failings of the series is that it did not highlight the very real conflicts between US and Brit bombing strategies. A rebooted version today could not avoid the fact that the USA AF and RAF were frequently at odds.
You have something here. Obviously the show couldn't include that in the format but this does have a place in the consideration of what went on in this battle. Appreciate your bringing this up.
How the hell do you see bombs drop IN FRONT OF YOUR PLANE. The physics of gravity and motion were different when I was at school.😮
roger perry was captain christopher in the star trek episode tomorrow is yesterday. james franciscus was colonel brent in beneath the planet of the apes.
+paul pisano He also had a series of his own on ABC. As a blind investigator relying on his other senses to get through. This episode reminds me of the movie "Catch Me If You Can" and a series on NBC which ran for a couple of seasons about a genius who ran around trying to settle a score and right injustice impersonating any professional he could. Just because he was a fast study.
+paul pisano Sorry I didn't identify who I'm talking about, James Franciscus.
That was "The Pretender" I used to watch that. He was raised in a center, escaped, and the people kept trying to bring him back.
This is movie but this pilot had his crew bail out over enemies line and he somehow gets plane to fly back to England and land without mishap.
I wouldn't let that guy fly my kite.
Ck out the big piston on Galagers desk at 27:50.
When I was active duty in the Corps there was one Gunny that I didn't really hit it off with. He would say "phony" a few times. That I remember correctly he would say something like, "I can always spot a phony." We were on a float. The N.C.O.s were all billeted together, Recon, Mortars and Tanks. The Recon Marines really thought he was a shit-bird. He wasn't a bad gunny, just a bit lazy and since he was ready to retire in a few months after 20 years we overlooked his faults especially since he had been in the Nam while things were hot and heavy. He never called me a phony but I kind of thought he may have thunk {pardon my American) that. I never heard what happened to him but I wish him all the blessing he deserves especially for hacking it 20 years in the Green Machine.
@Cliff Yablonski Nothing wrong with that. If you were there, you may phrase it ANY WAY you would like to. May be interesting to ask why so many in country vets had their own way to call it, usually only to others that they knew had been in country. Not heard a single word of bragging or boasting. Usually just plain and simple fact or feeling, not trusted to just any Nam Vet. If you know of this, then you are special!
@Cliff Yablonski Nahhm . . . was that a misspell ?
@Cliff Yablonski What's a NUGS ?
Ridiculous plot, yet entertaining.
James Franciscus in this one ,,,,
All depends on what's go'en on when ya get there.
Can it be possible that there is no verification and cross check before issuing personal documents ? Dont understand what the imposter was trying to do ....
Stone...my hero!
Great movie But they cannot see fake James Franciscus & Roger Perry
Stone was...a "stone."
It was James franciscus
A citation? For what? He was the reason for the loss of eight good men who needlessly parachuted over occupied Germany. Practically an entire B-17 crew.
That was my main thought, those guys ending up as POW's?
Seeing it from a higher perspective i'd think man, that is bullshit!
How was Stone the reason for their loss? The Pilot ordered them to bail out.
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P 51 attaked B 17 at 35:40
That's okay, P-47s have been wreaking havoc on B-17 formations for almost two full seasons.
I know this series is highly "hollywoodfied", but could a pilot of a B-17 drop the plane's bombs by himself? Just curious.
There was a Salvo Switch.
Salvo switch
neither would the rocks be painted white outlining the walkways
Which military were you in? All those rocks are always painted white.
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Painting rocks white for walkways is typical make work job in the military.
Around time stamp 35:40 it looked like they shot down a twin engine fighter.
yeah could have been a ME-110,
@@joevicmeneses8918 It is, but a fighter guncam killing it, you can see in the doc Combat America 1943, a 110 foolishly attacking a box formation of b17s and instantly like the flight pattern, getting completely encased in tracers from every direction, no amount of evasive will save you from that much 50.
Where did Rich. Chamberlain get the 2nd load of bombs? Didn;t he drop them on the first run?
James Francioso
They could split loads, had to do with wiring while loading. First signal would tell the first bomb load to drop off. The next signal would drop the second load. Barring combat or mechanical damage, it worked well when needed.
@@johnrogan9420 Whoops, my mistake
@@rodfirefighter8341 ok thanks
They sure knew how to paint the character of the week as a selfish loser more times than not
James f. The guy we love to hate.
An imposter
..Stone fought bravely...even if he was calling himself "carpenter"...amazing really...all fiction but probably based on a real case...anyone know of such an incident!
After I got to England, my security investigation had been slow walked, my hold baggage sent to some base in Germany. I was not allowed to even ride any firetrucks that would normally respond to any classified areas. It was a COLD November and December in England without anything but Short sleeved uniforms. It differently hurt my early days of my career and I wasn't even impersonating anyone?
FBI had completed their investigation in November of 1977 & I arrived in England October third, 1978! They simply didn't forward my package once they completed it!
There is a true story that is stranger than this fictional one. A rather unbalanced pilot named Martin James Monti was sent to India, but while there he bummed a ride to North Africa and then on to Italy, where he stole a P-38 and flew it to the German side of the lines and surrendered the plane. While a POW he began broadcasting propaganda to American troops under a false name. His motivation for all his bizarre actions was his strongly anticommunist upbringing. He truly thought we were wrong to side with the Soviets. After the war he was court-martialed for desertion and stealing the plane. His 15 year sentence was soon suspended and he was even allowed to reenlist as a private. In 1948 he was given an honorable discharge as a sergeant, only to be arrested immediately by the FBI for treason. This time he was sentenced to 25 years at Leavenworth. He was paroled in 1960.
@@Paladin1873 Yeah, but he did not get an entire squadron to buy his cockamamie story and let him pilot a plane with 9 others aboard. He simply went to an airfield where they repaired and prepared aircraft for air units, saw an unoccupied plane, jumped in and flew away. That is still a lot easier to do.
@@lsmart He traveled thousands of miles from assigned duty station without orders and BS'd his way onto a base where he stole a plane. More importantly, this story is true, not a work of fiction.
Ridiculous story.
that is fodder to make you keep watching. as Buford Pusser (Walking Tall) told me one time if they told the story like it took place no one would have watched the movie
Paul Burke replaced James Franciscus in the 2nd season of The Naked City. I liked Franciscus better. Paul Burke replaced Robert Lansing in this show. Lansing was better. I guess I was never a Burke fan.
Maybe--But it's just that replacements such--The same thing happened with Jerry Paris on The Untouchables. He was replaced by Anthony George who was killed off the series and replaced with Paul Picerni who played a gangster in the pilot of The Untouchables....Imagine if Stack would have been replaced as Eliot Ness with Bradford Dillman or Leslie Nielson in the second season?--Now would have sucked...But when they replace the lead, it's always bad.
Samuel Shamski I Agree! Seems Paul Burke Has The Habit Of Replacing Much Better Actors Then Himself!
I am both a Lansing, and a Burke fan
Burke was far better in Naked City than Fransiscus who was a one-dimensional, flat, pretty boy. Lansing was great.
It's hard to replace an original. It's like when you hear a song you like, but never heard the original recording years ago, you like the one you heard first better.
This is getting more repetitive and ridiculous by the episode. After the previous great episode, written by an outside writer, it is back to the wacko sneak who breaks away in combat, violates every rule in the book, and then is redeemed at the last minute. On top of that, you have to believe that a pilot would order 8 men to bail out over Germany when the plane was able to circle back for a second diving run to drop tits bombload on the target, then get back home with a regular non-emergency landing.My God, couldn't the 2nd season writers come up with something more real or original than this junk?
Just starting this one. Hope it's not THAT hopeless!
This episode was a joke. He broke so many rules and comes off looking like a hero. I realy like the show when I was a kid but there are too many stories that are weak writing don't add up. The other thing is it's amazing we won the war with so many decisions made by drunk officers.
@@Cioli1127 View the year 1 episodes with Robert Lansing. They are almost exclusively super.
What a guy!!