Fates Worse Than Death

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  • @TheTaleFoundry
    @TheTaleFoundry  7 місяців тому +353

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    • @axjagfilms
      @axjagfilms 7 місяців тому +3

      War of the worlds

    • @10derchicken
      @10derchicken 7 місяців тому +2

      Hi

    • @samdemel4126
      @samdemel4126 7 місяців тому +4

      Go read scp 001 when day brakes right now it’s hole thing is this

    • @edrozenrozen9600
      @edrozenrozen9600 7 місяців тому

      I think you're wrong about the computer. In the Harlan Ellison story. It was said to have gone insane. I think it could have killed itself if it would have chosen to do so. (Perhaps using the humans to help disassemble it)

    • @raven-ok4bg
      @raven-ok4bg 7 місяців тому

      Stories about reviving the dead?

  • @TheJacobG
    @TheJacobG 7 місяців тому +4391

    It's all fun and games until some Italian kid punches you with a psychic ghost so hard you end up in a pocket dimension, forced to live through an infinite series new and exciting ways to die.

    • @jikkermanccini
      @jikkermanccini 7 місяців тому +166

      Muda

    • @windedemulation1159
      @windedemulation1159 7 місяців тому +173

      The Jojo reference

    • @phantom9831
      @phantom9831 7 місяців тому +155

      It's all fun and game until a little kid with a cube teleports you with a portal in an entirely empty white space where time and thoughts don't exist for all eternity

    • @monstre9682
      @monstre9682 7 місяців тому

      ​@@phantom9831 Wakfu !

    • @kr4547
      @kr4547 7 місяців тому +56

      I knew someone would mention him. Diavolo!!!

  • @bordt258
    @bordt258 7 місяців тому +8280

    I HAVE NO SCREAM AND I MUST MOUTH

    • @X_XD
      @X_XD 7 місяців тому +233

      M.A.I HAS TRAPPED US IN ITSELF!

    • @WatekFox
      @WatekFox 7 місяців тому +583

      I SCREAM NO MOUTH AND I MUST HAVE

    • @jesusmarquez6903
      @jesusmarquez6903 7 місяців тому +98

      It I have no mouth and I must scream

    • @tobetrayafriend
      @tobetrayafriend 7 місяців тому +163

      ​@jesusmarquez6903 They're not being serious friend. They're joking.

    • @danillo.eu.rodrigues
      @danillo.eu.rodrigues 7 місяців тому +36

      YOU TOO??

  • @82dorrin
    @82dorrin 7 місяців тому +3110

    The inability to die would be way worse than death. You would live _forever._
    Long after humanity is extinct. After the last stars burn out. You would be floating forever in a dark universe devoid of all other life. It would never end.

    • @pixelsbykris5494
      @pixelsbykris5494 7 місяців тому +398

      Immortality is probably the scariest thing I can imagine. It's always baffled me that people say they want it as a superpower when my first thought is always the point you made.
      Not to mention, depending on the type of immortality, there's a chance your body would also have rotted at this point. And even if you stayed young forever, what if you ended up being flung into one of those stars before they all burned out? What would happen to your body? How long would you be in pain? Would you get used to it at some point?
      It's honestly scary just thinking about it, imo.

    • @befayedocrimes4751
      @befayedocrimes4751 7 місяців тому +211

      Immortality would suck, but maybe just another 100 years? Life is like that alarm clock you just keep wishing you could snooze.

    • @kyleespinoza7201
      @kyleespinoza7201 7 місяців тому +112

      Exactly. I feel like the concept of just how long eternity actually is really is lost on most people, especially knowing everything else *will* end around you.
      It doesn't mean death isn't any less scary, but immortality ain't it chief.

    • @pixelsbykris5494
      @pixelsbykris5494 7 місяців тому +77

      @befayedocrimes4751 I could live with a longer lifespan, yeah. Immortality would be WAY too much, but an extra 50 to 100 years might not be too bad depending on if your body can keep up with it as well.
      Especially considering how much more stuff you could accomplish if you had even juat one more generation's worth of time to be around.

    • @SergioLeonardoCornejo
      @SergioLeonardoCornejo 7 місяців тому +66

      Not counting outliving the universe (Which is probably not possible), immortality is actually desirable.
      All the chances for adventure out there give life a purpose.

  • @o5-1-formerlycalvinlucien60
    @o5-1-formerlycalvinlucien60 7 місяців тому +267

    Both AM and Ted are condemned to fates worse than death. AM is hyper intelligent, self aware, and so entirely alone. For centuries his only entertainment was torturing Ted and his friends, and Ted took that away from him. Then, AM turned Ted into a horrible abomination still self aware, and entirely alone. Both are entirely alone in their own way, for eternity.

  • @GattaiHeroes
    @GattaiHeroes 7 місяців тому +39

    A phrase as a kid always haunted me, "As a child, Death is your worst enemy. But as you grow older and live your life, Death is an old friend that waits for you when you are ready."

  • @ntsazazel
    @ntsazazel 7 місяців тому +747

    I can’t go without mentioning the SCP “End of Death” tale when we get into the topic of fates worse than death. A world in which the brain never stops functioning, rendering everyone and everything on earth suddenly immortal while their bodies continue to age and decay. It’s one of the more fleshed out canons of the SCP universe, even if some of its main stories are as of yet unfinished, and it really explores the horror, darkness, and eventual rays of light that shine through following the end of death.

    • @greenhydra10
      @greenhydra10 7 місяців тому +68

      The Red Dimension, or whatever it was called, I can't exactly remember, is another good example of stuff worse than death in SCP. Not that it's lacking in those.

    • @ntsazazel
      @ntsazazel 7 місяців тому +87

      @@greenhydra10 SCP 3001, “red reality.” Super well written and heartbreaking. To throw another example onto the pile, SCP 2718, “What Comes After,” is a perfect example of the “eternal limbo of suffering” brand of fates worse than death.

    • @bobsiffjohnny194
      @bobsiffjohnny194 7 місяців тому +47

      Reminds me of the cancerverse in Marvel, where death gets killed and no one can die, leading to some very grotesque things

    • @PopeBarley
      @PopeBarley 7 місяців тому +18

      Doesnt Torchwood: Miracle Day cover this concept too?

    • @jesusromanpadro3853
      @jesusromanpadro3853 7 місяців тому +24

      Also one of the SCP 001, the one where the Sun turn people into a mass of flesh that can join with others, and hunt humans.

  • @BillBerny-vv7rt
    @BillBerny-vv7rt 7 місяців тому +390

    "Too long ive been parched with thirst unable to quench it. Too long ive been starvin to death, and havent died! I feel nothin. Not the wind in my face nor the spray of the sea... nor the warmth of a woman's flesh." -Barbossa

    • @DatBoiOrly
      @DatBoiOrly 7 місяців тому +8

      me in a nutshell lol

    • @seraph8293
      @seraph8293 7 місяців тому +7

      Ouch somewhat relatable

    • @lalas181
      @lalas181 6 місяців тому +21

      Ngl, I forgot that Barbossa and his crew trying to get out of a "a fate worse than death" scenario was like the whole plot of the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie.

    • @nebricback1430
      @nebricback1430 6 місяців тому +3

      Top tier quote

    • @ThatOneRussianTank
      @ThatOneRussianTank 6 місяців тому +12

      An amazing quote tbh. I still love Barbossa as the villain he was in POTC 1, and how well he represented a man who has suffered in hell on earth. Love POTC, glad this underrated quote is still beloved and remembered.

  • @artistpoet5253
    @artistpoet5253 7 місяців тому +194

    It amazes me how this channel can take the most grim, cringey or borderline insane topics of storytelling and make it as enjoyable an academic safari as a fun day at the zoo...but you're REALLY learning something.

    • @pennyblush98
      @pennyblush98 6 місяців тому +3

      not to dampen anything here, but there is something funny about thinking of decades if not centuries old concepts like this being thought of as "cringe," kinda shows you how much of these ideas and parallel thoughts mirror that of an edgy teen.

  • @lsthero5863
    @lsthero5863 7 місяців тому +715

    Fun fact: I have no mouth but I must scream has a videogame that the author himself supervised and it has an ending where you truly defeat AM by being moral. But AM says that he is humanity and he will return one day, that another AM will be created

    • @slitheen3
      @slitheen3 6 місяців тому +53

      I think the author actually voices AM in it, right?
      I enjoyed it a decent amount until I got completely stuck on one of Ellen's puzzles even with walk throughs and gave up 😩 some of those early adventure games were SO brutal

    • @waveiscursed
      @waveiscursed 6 місяців тому +9

      when a computer is a final boss

    • @misao32
      @misao32 3 місяці тому +5

      And it's truth, look at us tho the I have no mouth but I must scream is 10 times more possible as ''end of the world'' than asteroid wiping whole planet

    • @matthewboire6843
      @matthewboire6843 2 місяці тому +1

      Cool

    • @AnonUserAgain
      @AnonUserAgain Місяць тому +1

      YES YOU KNOW THE GAME

  • @pikazilla6405
    @pikazilla6405 7 місяців тому +20

    I wouldn't say this is exactly a "fate worse than death" because in the scp world, there's a distinct possibility that this is how death actually works, but scp-2718 "what happens after" is the experience one man describes after being brought back from the dead, and he describes still being conscious as his body decayed, feeling insects eat his body and make nests inside him, feel his hair fall out of his skull, and all of it was agonizingly painful. He described his ability to feel pain slowly increasing as well, unable to move or scream as he felt his body fall apart, he even felt when chunks of him were eaten and then carried away, pain in those parts even after they were seperated from him. Imagine your arm is bitten off and you can still somehow feel all the pain that arm feels. When he was brought back to life he screamed and cried and after was determined to avoid death at all possible costs.

  • @terryflopycow2231
    @terryflopycow2231 7 місяців тому +127

    SCP-2178 is a truly nasty and anxiety inducing read, it plays on my childhood paranoia that we continue to feel our body after we die. Trapped. Except much much MUCH worse

    • @carloslasso4370
      @carloslasso4370 7 місяців тому +9

      This, this is the ultimate fate worst that death

    • @Ayahuasca98
      @Ayahuasca98 7 місяців тому +1

      I still never understood it fully

    • @terryflopycow2231
      @terryflopycow2231 7 місяців тому +22

      @@Ayahuasca98 what if you felt your body rot, be consumed, burn, after death. But because it's SCP it goes further, still feeling the pain of each individual cell dying, still feeling them in birds and ants as you enter the food chain. Eventually you still feel each individual atom spread across the planet and the pain only mulitplies over time. An over the top fate aha

    • @Jaculum
      @Jaculum 7 місяців тому +2

      SCP-2718

  • @atsukana1704
    @atsukana1704 7 місяців тому +36

    Being transformed beyond human has always disturbed me beyond comprehension. It makes me shudder to think about, but I cannot stop when the thought enters.
    Despite me understanding logically that a zombie apocalypse could never fully occur, not in the way it is portrayed at least. Instead being a flash burn event that falls off in a month or two, as zombies have no steady diet and would thirst to death. The idea of losing oneself is the part that scares me the most.
    The idea that one moment you had control until it was ripped away is thought provokingly terrifying. My own self is the one thing I have control over, and to have that gone, is worse than death.
    This for me has not been limited to only zombies, but rather extends to any fate like this, even in strange settings like high fantasy cursed items causing one to lose onself.

  • @MJDELTA
    @MJDELTA 7 місяців тому +72

    Something is unique about tale foundrys art black and white and.. brownish? I love it

  • @physicsgamer5141
    @physicsgamer5141 7 місяців тому +13

    This video instantly made me think of SCP-2718. The fate worse than death is the failure to truly die. You get no peaceful oblivion, and it’s your own choices that put you in that position.
    It probably doesn’t line up quite right with the theme of the video, but I’d say that story is at least tangentially related.

  • @abstrusepaladin
    @abstrusepaladin 7 місяців тому +53

    18:55 "don't be gross. i mean living human canibalism, not sex!"

    • @Joob.mp4
      @Joob.mp4 5 місяців тому +5

      8:55 i think you accidenyally wrote a one my man

  • @greenhydra10
    @greenhydra10 7 місяців тому +30

    Time paradoxes tend to pretty bad, and fall in this a lot. A lot of them do end with the person in question dying, but not until after they've gone through some *serious* unpleasantry.

  • @animemanXLK
    @animemanXLK 7 місяців тому +17

    One of my favourite characters from this sort of theme is from Warhammer 40,000(Though to be clear almost every fate in 40k tends to be worse than death) in a character called Lucius the eternal.
    He was orginally a Space Marine a kind of futuristic knight/super soldier with a heavily self inflicted scarred face who along with many other chaos space marines betrayed their oaths to the Imperium of man and the Emperor to side with the very literal forces of hell in exchange for daemonic power. Lucius was a master swordsman who thanks to his chaos god Slaanesh recieved pleasure from not just inflicting pain but also recieving it.
    When he finally met his end at the hands of another chaos space marine named Cyrius who couldn't tolerate his boatsful arrogance and show boating any longer and savagely beat Lucius to death in one on one duel,the god Slaanesh stepped in to save his servants life in a unique and horrifying way. Cyrius began to notice lines pushing through his face in a maze like pattern his eyes began to change colour and his hair fell out in clumps to his mounting horror. For days he would scream in agony while the sounds slowly morphed into sadistic laughter. Until one day Lucius stepped onto the battlefield again with a scream face representing Cyrius soul now trapped for ever in his armour riving in constant agony. Now. when a warrior kills Lucius and takes just a slither of pride in their work they will under go the same transformation adding a new tormented soul to his armour. A unique blessing/curse that has let him survive for over ten thousand years.

  • @worm.on.a.string.
    @worm.on.a.string. 7 місяців тому +11

    This reminds me of a character I have - Japple. They're a person cursed to immortality and very bad luck. Every time that, say, a limb is ripped off, it grows back as this mass of raw meats. They developed an unhealthy coping habit of getting hit by cars when they get frustrated or something. They can effectively have organs ripped out, and just grow them back. They're the kind to be cannonically slipping on a banana peel into an active road as they get struck by lightning.

  • @j_117
    @j_117 7 місяців тому +15

    When I type "am" into my keyboard it used to autocorrect to AM and every time it disturbed me

    • @Amaristokes-uz8kq
      @Amaristokes-uz8kq 3 місяці тому +2

      You better keep track of where that computer is headed, Ted.

  • @hdckighfkvhvgmk
    @hdckighfkvhvgmk 7 місяців тому +30

    "With my eternal life I will see the world through to it's end. Until everyone who won't like me is gone."
    ...
    "You haven't won just so you know... I'm going to duck inside this 'absolutely safe capsule' for the time being."
    ...
    "All he can do now is live for eternity inside the capsule, in absolute safety."

  • @AnomalousVixel
    @AnomalousVixel 6 місяців тому +10

    the actual irony of "I'm talking literally, don't be gross"

  • @raulkirbo
    @raulkirbo 7 місяців тому +149

    But I don't like to die :(

    • @Jessica18010
      @Jessica18010 7 місяців тому +34

      How do you know if you haven’t tried it?

    • @nanditamukherjee344
      @nanditamukherjee344 7 місяців тому +2

      Ya, same its sound fun but is kinda unenjoyable...

    • @raulkirbo
      @raulkirbo 7 місяців тому +50

      @@Jessica18010 I met some Guy Who tried It, never seen him again

    • @danteshollowedgrounds
      @danteshollowedgrounds 7 місяців тому +2

      No one does but it is part of the process that comes with the territory.

    • @Lucas_Vanes
      @Lucas_Vanes 7 місяців тому +5

      As some one who has died and had not likes it, I can agree.

  • @aquamarie3117
    @aquamarie3117 7 місяців тому +7

    I'm building a ROKR mechanical wooden clock (I love clocks-I collect watches and everything) while listening to these videos and it's so soothing to hear stories and opinions on literature while tinkering with something simple to make something beautiful :)

  • @NormalGamingChannel
    @NormalGamingChannel 2 місяці тому +1

    I saw a family friendly retro gaming podcast who randomizes their games have to work around playing the “I have no mouth and I must scream” hand. New game plus.

  • @coconuthun_2159
    @coconuthun_2159 7 місяців тому +8

    Must thy scream, although thy mouth is missing?

  • @Drifter2025
    @Drifter2025 7 місяців тому +1

    Sommething clicked in my mind while reading about Stars dying " nothing is immortal" and death is something earned. Being denied death would be true suffering on a scale of time infinity.

  • @racookster
    @racookster 5 місяців тому

    I wasn't surprised to see "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" mentioned. Conspicuously absent, however, was the fate of David Bowie's character in The Hunger. Forty years later, that still pops into my head from out of nowhere and I feel like I'm suffocating.

  • @brettbeyer73
    @brettbeyer73 7 місяців тому +4

    Dangit! I wrote a story about sentient zombies that had to eat to relieve the pain, and now I find out there's a whole freaking movie about it!

  • @Ancient_Soul9000
    @Ancient_Soul9000 3 місяці тому +1

    Here’s something to think about: what if when you died you would be in the afterlife you believed in? So basically, what if someone who believed in ghosts eternally walked the plains of earth as a supernatural being, while someone who thought reincarnation was real died and came back to life?

  • @thunderfart31
    @thunderfart31 Місяць тому +1

    Contrast is what makes life worth living, maybe that’s why so many people look for black and white answers in a morally grey world

  • @obsidianblack7249
    @obsidianblack7249 7 місяців тому +1

    Something like this is vaguely touched on in Dark Souls 2 with the character Lucatiel. Throughout her questline you learn her history and about her fear of losing herself to the undead curse. At one point she even says that if killing the player would remove the curse she would do it.

  • @BMWqueen751
    @BMWqueen751 3 місяці тому

    For me, a fate worst than death is a time loop. You have to expenses the same day over and over again. you cannot get away from it and you cannot kill yourself to get away. You’re just stuck forever.

  • @gamingdudedonal3312
    @gamingdudedonal3312 Місяць тому +1

    Here's another example of A Fate Worse Than Death: Five minutes without tale foundry

  • @VancePantss
    @VancePantss 17 днів тому

    The thing that made me terrified of zombies as a child was the idea of becoming a zombie and being unable to stop myself from killing people around me. Horrifying.

  • @ruanmellocfo
    @ruanmellocfo 6 місяців тому +1

    Wildbow, author of Worm love this trope. In a world of superheroes where the protagonist can control Arthropods, there’s a villain who can put people on loop. You can be stuck on a 5 seconds loop where everything is reset, except for your mind and your memories. The really unlucky ones are those that he burns with a lighter at the beginning of the loops. He likes to see they go insane from the pain, and then recover their sanity again. After he is killed, the government isolate these trapped people, and some scientists theorize that the power probably is not eternal, and that maybe it will turn off in the future. Although not before the sun goes out…

  • @amphoraoftea9537
    @amphoraoftea9537 6 місяців тому +1

    It’s actually funny. I’m in the process of forming a kind of rp story with a friend of mine that deals with a concept similar to this. Basically a group of humans got transformed by a demonic entity into puppet like beings, forced to live in a pocket dimension-like world, where they don’t get old, and the majority of them don’t even have memories of when they were human, for all they know they were always puppets. Until one starts regaining some semblance of her memories, not quite enough just yet, but enough to have her realize the situation they’re in is not ideal

  • @stinegregersen6553
    @stinegregersen6553 7 місяців тому +5

    The fact that su*cide exists proves that there are many fates worse than death

  • @I.Read.The.Hobbit.In.1937
    @I.Read.The.Hobbit.In.1937 7 місяців тому +11

    In my opinion, the worst fate worse than death would be Bucky’s from the MCU. He was drafted into WWII, had to abandon his best friend, then was captured by the Nazi organization, HYDRA. While at HYDRA, he was tortured for 20 years before he broke, and then was turned into a cheap way for HYDRA to dispose of their enemies against his will. For 50 years, he was tortured and sort of became a passenger in his own body, forced to do whatever Karpov made him do. He was frozen in between missions, and I can just imagine that being frozen is painful before you pass out. Then, 70 years later, he’s forced to kill his best friend. He fails and runs away to Romania, where he’s framed for a terrorist attack by Zemo and hunted down. Then, finally, he gets a little peace in Wakanda, only to be thrown back into the action and turned to dust. When he comes back, Steve, Nat, and Tony die, and he never even got to apologize to Tony. Oh, yeah, and he can’t exactly die, or at least it’s hard to kill him. He can never catch a break. First rule of the MCU is to never assume Bucky Barnes is dead, because he’s only suffering a fate worse than death.

  • @Lithybelle
    @Lithybelle 7 місяців тому +1

    I suffer from anhedonia since before the lockdown as a side effect of a medication I took for a long time. This is a condition that makes it difficult to experience pleasure, and usually for me, pleasure comes in extreme sensations so... There's that.
    Since before clicking on your video, my response was your conclusion. Living is undoubtedly a fate worse than death, but as you said it: pleasure, for as scarce and far between, makes it worth living.
    PS: I always thought that the living dead, as they lack or experience a change in their brain chemistry, their consciousness devolve into something else entirely. Maybe they're forced to think by whatever had possessed them, being a virus, bacteria, a fungus, or demonic possession! c:
    Thanks for reading my take!

  • @hellraiser217
    @hellraiser217 10 днів тому

    If you're into I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, or interested, I recommend the BBC's radio drama for it. The work they did with the story is, frankly speaking, fantastic and it deserves a listen.

  • @Jellyfishs
    @Jellyfishs 2 місяці тому

    I actually had a dream that somewhat touched the concept of still being conscious as a zombie. I was asking a friend over and over but he never answered. Instead, he whispered “you don’t play Roblox anymore, do you?” In a Really accusing tone before biting me (i gave up fighting him)

  • @biljam972
    @biljam972 4 місяці тому +1

    Sadly, there are many non-fictional fates worse than death, not just fictional.

  • @sherylcervantes8901
    @sherylcervantes8901 6 місяців тому +1

    Photon decay still exists, so eventually, the jelly guy will still be fully destroyed, therefore dead

  • @dalejhunter1
    @dalejhunter1 5 місяців тому

    As a writer, one concept that fascinated me was the idea of someone - good or evil - attaining immortality. The ability to never age or die. They can feel pain, but never the sweet release of death. Then, when all other life in the world is gone, what is left to do? The exploration of that person's mental state, at first feeling joy/shock at being the last person alive, only to lead to boredom and ever increasing madness as the world becomes overgrown by nature with nothing to truly tame it. Even as the Sun explodes and consumes the universe, the person never dies... just experiences an endless pain and loneliness. A fate worse than death...

  • @arsonist7013
    @arsonist7013 6 місяців тому

    Yahtzee Croshaw wrote a book called "Mog world" which is about a sentient NPC undead in a MMORPG game and as they are undead they can't die at all, even one of there fellow undead gets melted into slime and his soul is still in there. So the book's all about the MC trying to figure out how to kill himself for good to avoid being reduced to nothing but a sentient skull until the end of the world.
    It is a more comedic toned book but the concept of a immortal desperately trying to get himself killed to avoid one of these horrible fate's you've described is a somewhat grim concept.

  • @GhostyHomie
    @GhostyHomie 4 місяці тому

    It may be a little niche, but I think the moonscorched affliction featured in Fear and Hunger 2: Termina is a pretty scary fate. Being transformed into a creature based off your worst qualities or a horrific version of own perception of yourself, with only a tint thread of who you once were left behind.

  • @otherworldlyfiction
    @otherworldlyfiction 2 місяці тому

    I'm surprised no one mentioned the mawmouths from the Scholomance trilogy. If you're eaten by one, you're not only absorbed into it, making the monster larger, but retain your consciousness. Being a part of the mawmouth is also a horrible experience in and of itself, and it's painful for your loved ones because they don't even have the luxury of moving on and knowing you're at peace. Instead, they know you're suffering permanent consciousness in a state of torture, and there's nothing they can do about it because mawmouths are virtually indestructible. The series isn't perfect, but I loved how terrifying the concept of mawmouths are - a true fate worse than death.

  • @werescrewed8793
    @werescrewed8793 6 місяців тому +1

    “…or the embrace of someone you love”
    Heh, I wish

  • @rafaeldasilvaromero3362
    @rafaeldasilvaromero3362 5 місяців тому

    In Jojo's bizarre adventure, there is this vampire-like villain who actually became perfectly inmortal. The way to "beat him" was for a plot device to dend him into space. Within minutes, he adapted his body to nos suffer the space, and wothin years, he just stopped thinking. The space is terrifying big and lonely when death is not an option.

  • @bakerboy8910
    @bakerboy8910 5 місяців тому

    The fate of Pokey in Mother 3 would be the worst. You cant die, stuck in a capsule, just waiting for the heat death of the universe where you're the only thing left

  • @AlanaArtDream
    @AlanaArtDream 3 місяці тому

    Definitely being living dead like a zombie would indeed be a fate worse than death

  • @M0ssPawzz
    @M0ssPawzz 3 місяці тому

    It’s all fun and games until a living number puts you into a sort of ‘dimension’ inside their own body with multiple classrooms, but only allows you inside one of those classrooms with a sign to the right of the door saying: EXIT (an acronym), forcing you to do algebra for eternity. /ref

  • @KimPossibleShockwave
    @KimPossibleShockwave Місяць тому

    There are also three others:
    1. Being turned into a Cyberman. This isn't just your emotions being erased or suppressed and your body essentially violated, your entire personality, you as a person, is corrupted and changed. It's basically the death of self. Except for a few outliers, there is no coming back from being converted or "upgraded" into a cyberman.
    2. Borg Assimilation. Your sense of self is suppressed, and you become nothing but a limb for a hive mind. The only upside is that there is a chance of recovery, if you're removed from the Collective... However, many people don't recover from the mental trauma/experience, or are left so scarred by it they're essentially different people from who they were pre-assimilation.
    3. Beast Infection. Yeah, if you're familiar with Homeworld: Cataclysm, you know where this is going. The biomechanical cells of the Beast break you down at the cellular level to be organic circuitry, so that it can control the ship you once piloted. You're dissolved.
    Given what the Bentusi said during a mission briefing, there's a high chance that as you're stretched across your ship and used to pilot it, you're still conscious/alive on some level.

  • @anonimanonim2710
    @anonimanonim2710 6 місяців тому +3

    I was never afraid of death, just low-key looking forward to it lol. Now, pain! That's a different story!😅

  • @EksaStelmere
    @EksaStelmere 6 місяців тому

    In my writing (and life), I follow a hard rule: no punishment which can be fathomed is worse than Hell, the Kalasutra or the Inferno. So I tend to not think about fates worse than death.

  • @chopper91-y4g
    @chopper91-y4g 5 місяців тому

    One example of a fate worse than death i always think about is the half life zombies. They are still alive when a headcrab takes over their body. you can even hear them calling for help backwords

  • @vanessa1111
    @vanessa1111 3 місяці тому

    i’m literally doing an art project on the thing, listening to the first part i was like “wow this sounds a lot like the thing” and then i check my phone 😭

  • @becauseican4653
    @becauseican4653 3 місяці тому

    Bro, life's greatest question just got answered for me RIGHT BEFORE AN AD READ.

  • @lordfrieza3792
    @lordfrieza3792 6 місяців тому

    You want to talk about living nightmares I'd say that the flood and necromorphs are much worse. They both keep your consciousness intake while also eliminating all of your happy memories and anything that was good in your life or might keep you saneish while making you suffer in what is basically an infinite tsukuyomi.
    Also at aome point in a ton of animes, the someone tends to suffer a fate worse than death.

  • @wocy_
    @wocy_ 3 місяці тому

    The thumbnail made me immediately think of Made in Abyss. It's an anime about this giant hole in the ground that goes on for miles and miles and no one knows what's on the bottom. People worship it and explore it, but this leads to many problems. There is a curse in the abyss and this makes it very hard to go up after you descend down in the abyss. The further down you go the harder it becomes to get back out because suddenly you're hit with the worst pain you can ever feel while you're also trying to avoid all the creatures that lurk in the abyss. Since the curse would become worse the more you go down and then try to go up, the abyss was divided in layers on maps, where trying to go back from the first layer would simply make you throw up while in the sixth layer trying to go back up makes you either die or become a mass of deformed meat, but staying alive. If the person going up from the sixth layer becomes this little blob of meat, it won't understand its surroundings anymore and won't be able to die in any normal way. If it gets hurt it cries but can't say anything, just lets out laments like an animal. But consciousness is still there, but it's unclear if the person is somewhat aware of things or not.

  • @lordofcheeze2512
    @lordofcheeze2512 6 місяців тому

    There’s an SCP (who’s number I can’t recall) which described a fate worse than death. It’s a tale about a dude who went on a vacation, died, and experienced every single thing that happened to his body. Everything from worms eating their way into his flesh all the way to every spec that was him being spread across miles as nature tried to absorb him. That story messed me up for a while, but I figured it makes an excellent addition to your video!

    • @lordofcheeze2512
      @lordofcheeze2512 6 місяців тому

      Another fun take is of the story, the jaunt. I’m sure you’ve reviewed it already, but it basically goes that in trying to teleport, we invent portals that make you experience the entirety of eternity before dying instantly after you leave. It seems to kill adults and drive children insane, so that’s fun :)

  • @kabonell
    @kabonell 6 місяців тому

    one of them i thought of is diavolos infinite death loop you have to experience the pain of every possible death without ever actually getting the relief of staying dead just an eternal loop of ever changing suffering

  • @Salen0243
    @Salen0243 7 місяців тому

    I was really thinking about this lately, are there fates worse than death, and one thing that comes to my mind, is to trapped in a void forever, the imagination alone is scary for me.

  • @alexdupaix
    @alexdupaix 5 місяців тому

    There's a newer version of that story, though it's only briefly touched upon in the book. The book is All Tomorrows. It is mentioned that the humans managed to stave off an invading alien fleet for two or three waves. The next one broke them. The aliens punished them by turning them into living sentient waste filters. There was another that was "favored" by the aliens that were little more than storage devices used by the aliens. When the aliens left, they left their "storage devices" behind. They were like deer in form, but sentient. This was a mental torture to them, as they could see and understand the world around them, but were powerless to do anything with that knowledge. It might have been a mercy that they eventually lost their sentience.

  • @CherieTheShihTzu
    @CherieTheShihTzu 16 днів тому

    13:03 my undertale addicted ass just took, like, three looks at this and just went: “amalgamates”. (So basically they’re these wierd creatures, basically monsters who’ve been injected with so much liquidized determination they slowly melt into a dripping, fleshy mass and fuse with any other monsters nearby, forming one disgusting mass. They still retain consciousness and a painful memory of who they once were and the people they loved, as shown by an amalgamation of a heartbroken mother.)

  • @EricSRiley
    @EricSRiley 7 місяців тому

    So glad you brought in Hellraiser to this topic. I would add to your examples the original novella The Hellbound Heart, because we could easily see Frank's position a little differently. He's trapped in a kind of liminal space between the house and the hell dimension, basically looking through the walls unable to move or leave, ostensibly to eternally watch life go on without him. Something akin to solitary confinement, yet another fate worse than death.

  • @HoppsVCastro
    @HoppsVCastro 20 днів тому

    15:09 This part made me really zone out yet focus-

  • @ETOILEPHANTOME
    @ETOILEPHANTOME 7 місяців тому +1

    13:12 reminds me of the anime Made in Abyss. Though, those who lose their humanity also lose their minds

  • @thewhiteninja5751
    @thewhiteninja5751 2 місяці тому

    I don’t like how you differentiate yourself from us. Weather you are a human or not, you are one of us

  • @rmovie_official
    @rmovie_official 6 місяців тому

    I think a really bad fate was for 10th class from a SFM "Emesis Blue" Respawned without stop, he was getting more and more tortured until the place got abandoned, but His consciousnesses was trapped there forever... I know this may sound stupid but I recommend watching Emesis Blue to understand it. Or if you just want to know about 10th class just watch the beginning of the movie.

  • @SpyDoTF2
    @SpyDoTF2 Місяць тому

    I think the only fate truly worse than death is being AM or his victims, when you think about it, death is just not being able to experience the good and bad things that we can do in this world.
    AM’s victims not only lose that but are eternally suffering, there is no fate worse than eternal agony and pain, seriously.

  • @akirandrake414
    @akirandrake414 6 місяців тому

    The Flood is also very similar to the thing. Sometimes the victims still have their consciousness.

  • @jayvinwilliams8508
    @jayvinwilliams8508 7 місяців тому

    "I've been talking about death a lot lately.... wanna what's even worse than death tho???"

  • @tevenpowell8023
    @tevenpowell8023 7 місяців тому +1

    When it comes to eternity, I always was just as afraid of Heaven as Hell.
    They say that Heaven is pure bliss, devoid of suffering, devoid of all negative emotions, fully encapsulated in joy and love.
    But I'm not all joy and love. My sufferings and negativity are an intrinsic part of who I am. If they're taken away I'll cease to be myself at all. I'll become a completely different being, not even human anymore.
    And I'll be that way forever, unchanging. Perfected, but Stagnant.
    What even is the difference between that, and ceasing to exist all together, really?

    • @gratermccheesy9650
      @gratermccheesy9650 7 місяців тому +1

      That would be weird to think about. Lucky for us that’s a modern interpretation and not what the Bible says.
      Imagine yourself being the most mature version of yourself possible. Still with the baggage, but dealing with it healthily.
      It wouldn’t be just pure bliss since there’s work and other stuff too.
      It’s happinesses in a true sense. With accomplishments and stuff (like what is meant with the pursuit of happiness; not what’s essentially being high all the time)
      We’d have the jobs perfectly designed to fit us. With troubles and joys maximized for righteousness and joy far beyond what we could see on earth.
      That’s just a basic summary of heaven from what the Bible says about it. Look into it more there’s some cool imagery and facts a lot of people just ignore.

  • @vaishnabiswas6414
    @vaishnabiswas6414 6 місяців тому

    I always think of "The enigma of amigara fault" when it comes to fates worse than death.

  • @someuser4166
    @someuser4166 7 місяців тому

    The first time I played half life 2 I couldn't kill the zombies because they would scream "please God help me" if you set them on fire. Meaning they're still alive but had their nervsystem hijacked. I would feel bad for them and just try to avoid them. I thought to myself maybe killing them would be mercy but I also felt I had no right to decide if they would want to live or die.

  • @JamesBogu
    @JamesBogu 7 днів тому

    Imagine you're a doctor in the hospital, but you have to do what the patients are saying because otherwise how would they trust that you're a doctor.
    They're gonna read the book that you learned with in med school and do brain surgery on you... Then if it works on you, they'll believe what the book is saying and that you're qualified to mess with their brain.
    You can't leave the hospital and there's enforcers al over the place insisting you must go through this process to gain your patient's trust.

  • @darksnakenerdmaster
    @darksnakenerdmaster 3 місяці тому

    There is also the fates of those bitten by headcrabs in the Half-Life franchise. All the victims are alive and screaming for help as their bodies are controlled by a parasitic monster while their body decays and mutates. The half life 2 version, when their screams are played in reverse, are still spoken in intelligible english, they are screaming for help. These are beings beyond our reality, but ones we know, because of Dr Kleiner and his pet headcrab which got debeaked, are intelligent to sone degree. The process is horrific to the victim, but serves the life cycle of the host.

  • @69funnynumberhaha
    @69funnynumberhaha 6 місяців тому +4

    4:40 Among them? Like an alien that is among them? An impostor alien? Like Among Us?

    • @SnickerDoodleBug05
      @SnickerDoodleBug05 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes! I was gonna comment if among us was based off this.
      You don't know who the imposter is until you're dead

  • @The__FBI
    @The__FBI 7 місяців тому

    Me I’d think being in a void forever starving and being thirsty and being full aware of it you cant even see your self and your stuck there for ever going insane and no escape

  • @Joob.mp4
    @Joob.mp4 5 місяців тому

    i think a good explanation is queen angella
    from she ra, imagine having to wait with noone to accompany you, forever till the rest of eternity, and bron from poppy playtime, all bro wanted was to die, now hes a being of flesh and plastic condemned to being forever tormented by your creations

  • @Mr_Wolfkin
    @Mr_Wolfkin 7 місяців тому

    Personally, the biggest fear is of what comes after death, if anything. I would much rather live forever, knowing that I don't have to worry, then exist and not know at any moment if everything just stops to exist, life isn't scary, nor death, but not knowing what will happen

  • @headlitethe.unstoppablemoron
    @headlitethe.unstoppablemoron 6 місяців тому +1

    Remember, it’s now hard to take “the thing” seriously nowadays because of one certain bean video game…

  • @Namrec_Molai
    @Namrec_Molai 7 місяців тому

    being lockedup forever is far worse than death, you are out of line
    Banished from fate an destiny
    Forgotten forever

  • @phae_c
    @phae_c 7 місяців тому

    this reminds me of talking with someone a while ago, about the idea of killing yourself after a traumatic accident that would leave you paralysed from the neck down, or an amputee of all limbs, something of that sort. my stance on this was that it depends on who you are. someone who got most of their enjoyment of life out of in-the-moment physical activities, any kind of sport etc. just actually would be missing what made their life alive then. i get the intention to better just end it then. someone who is happy with loved ones around and could find happiness in a variety of other things, might be grateful to still be alive at all. i think you couldnt draw a line and say it's as black and white as live=good die=bad

  • @cantofox
    @cantofox 6 місяців тому

    The Thing is one of the scariest movies ever. The scene where they take the human test one by one is one of the tensest things you'll ever see.

  • @jarjhumanthous6621
    @jarjhumanthous6621 6 місяців тому

    It is really interesting how this channel exposes topics, I love the charisma and the mechanical feelings it sparks in me

  • @havenshaw7856
    @havenshaw7856 6 місяців тому +1

    I really hope people don’t think this video was inspired by suicide

  • @Mooskym
    @Mooskym 6 місяців тому

    Worth the Candle, a web-novel by Alexander Wales, has several ideas of fates worse than death, such as The Z-word. It's one of the best stories I've ever read, and I can't recommend it enough.
    You know, I'm like 99% sure I had seen the first (original) Hellraiser movie, yet I don't recall anything about it (other than the needle-face man).

  • @namelesschild3724
    @namelesschild3724 6 місяців тому

    what's worse than death is knowing that everything's technically pointless, whether you're an immortal entity who's spent billions of years or not... the life we all live in is just a fracture of a super tiny bit of grain in an endless sea of space and time. in significant, i wonder that even if the god we're expecting exist, what's the point of eternal life? pain, pleasure, existing, good and evil? why are we seeing and experiencing what we're in right now.

  • @necronsplayer
    @necronsplayer 7 місяців тому +1

    "don't be gross" he says.

  • @BananaBoy570
    @BananaBoy570 3 місяці тому

    at some point, the fate worse than death, becomes living

  • @khanes5376
    @khanes5376 6 місяців тому

    Imagine walking into a metal pod to retreat from a bunch of kids, only to realise that you can never escape and never die.

  • @averygamerdude7911
    @averygamerdude7911 6 місяців тому +1

    Fates worth than death: Being alive.

  • @futurehistory2110
    @futurehistory2110 6 місяців тому

    1:41 When you stare at the clock and a second seems to last for several.

  • @catalinstirb6039
    @catalinstirb6039 4 місяці тому

    For the zombies part: Half-Life zombies. The person is taken over by a large parasite that fixes itself over the host's head and basically hijacks all the motor functions of the body and pumps it full of substances that wreak havoc on it, splitting open the torso, exposing internal organs, melting away flesh from arms, elongating bones to turn into claws, unlocking the use of all muscles in the body at all times, giving it inhuman strength. These parasites also sometimes make the hosts sit in radioactive or biohazardous waste, or force them to push through situations like being cut in half or being set on fire to reach the target they want to kill. Also, fun fact, for the regular zombies, the host is alive the entire time, feeling everything but being unable to see what's happening around them, and unable to do anything about it, only to hope that someone will come and quickly put them out of their misery. In-game they're pretty weak enemies and you mostly pay them no mind while killing them to get through the levels, but if you think about it, it's a really horrific fate, honestly much worse than death, especially since there is no cure for it, and once the person mutated, the only thing you can do to help them is to put them out of their misery

  • @The_Creatorof2
    @The_Creatorof2 8 днів тому

    Bro this is so poetic

  • @koryh9802
    @koryh9802 7 місяців тому

    "If story writters aren't allowed to have death in their stories, writters will come up with fates worse then death"

  • @Iamzespy-l6u
    @Iamzespy-l6u 2 місяці тому +1

    Being immortal:| it’s honestly worse than death