New Zealand's Founding Remains a Mystery
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2024
- Every year New Zealand parties in Waitangi. This year was tense.
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I like short
the sheer dedication of this man flying all the way out to new zealand just for an under-7-minute video amazes me
Haha, don't worry, there's lots more NZ content on the way!
@@spectacles-dm ... My Father was a Parkeha, my Mother was an Black Australian Woman.
My Father was born on the South Island, in a place called Timaru, the second youngest of 16 children in 1925. Yep, if he was still here he'd be 98 this year.
I've been subscribed to you for quite a while now, and this is the first time I've seen you tackle the "arse end of the World," as both the Kiwi's and ourselves have been known to refer to it, but we LOVE our little corner of the World and we wouldn't want it any other way!!
And that's just what will happen if a pack of "South Sea Island Trump Imitators" get their grubby mits all over the Treaty of Waitangi, and the sad truth is, we've been trying to deal with a pack of dropkick Senetors, from the "One Nation Party" a number of disgraced
Members of the Liberal National Country Party Coalition who've made a pact with the Devil, as it were, and are slowly but surely drawing the vote away from the more "traditional" Right Wing of Australian Politics, but probably (hopefully) won't get much bigger than they already are.
One can only hope, I suppose.
And yet the title of the video made me think the "mystery" of New Zealand is going to be spoken about: The Maori are not the indigens of New Zealand. They themselves came on the island just 200-300 years ago from Pacific Asian Islands. Now *that's a mystery*! New Zealand government does block any archeological work on sights of ruins of old settlements or places of worship. Back in the day Maori even admitted to not knowing who built that.
So, if the Maori were there just a few centuries before the British, what does that make them? Colonizers?From when on can one call a land "his" land? After 2 centuries? That would mean that Maori should cut their losses for what never was theirs in the first place.
Sad that this seemingly independent UA-cam channel is politically just as streamlined like every other mainstream media.
Fantastic, I can't wait for you guys to hit 100k subs. You've come a long way and I'm so glad to benefit from the fantastic videos you've made along the way.
Wow, I’m so glad there’s a UA-camr out there covering the obscure corners of history that I found while looking at old flags! Earned yourself a new, well-deserved sub!
At least three videos today! Welcome and thanks for the sub :)
Thank you for bring all of these topics to light. As someone in the U.S. it can be hard to come across people creating videos about this many worldwide topics with this level of quality.
I refuse to acknowledge the country of New Zealand until they accept the one true New Zealand flag- the Laser Kiwi standard.
perfect country - laser kiwi flag, change name to Aotearoa (to be at the top of every multiple-choice country selection, oh and indigenous rights too...)
@@Cous-Cous Maori are so oppressed by 'systemic racism' they have their own flag, political party, schools, doctors, rugby team, soccer league, discounts when it comes to court sentences, a gang called, 'Black Power' (go figure)... yeah really, 'oppressed'.
That’s just stupid bro, only a kid would choose that stupid flag. it’s fine don’t acknowledge New Zealand as a country, but you better not be living here.
holy moly, I wasn't expecting this at all! Thank you from a Kiwi, nga mihi nui
This was awesome bro. Thank you. I hope you enjoyed your time in NZ. ❤🙏😊
really enjoyed this video!!
cant wait for the deep dive/longer one coming out soon!
Very important note: Maori are *not* given priority access to healthcare. That is a patently inaccurate way to describe the system. Maori may choose to get their healthcare managed by Te Aka Whai Ora (the Maori Health Authority), which is an organisation that aims to improve Maori health outcomes through the integration of Maori principles into traditional healthcare frameworks. They don't get to skip the line ahead of anyone else, they are just able to get their healthcare managed by people who understand their community and their way of life.
@@HummingLantern27 well I'm glad I was able to help
Unless this Guardian article is a lie, the situation is more complicated than you've made it out to be, just as it's more complicated than we presented it. But what we said, according to our research, is by no means fundamentally misleading, because this matter of priority is real and is the one to which conservatives have objected. Thank you though for taking the time to add some nuance!
Source:
www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/20/new-zealand-starts-giving-priority-to-maori-and-pacific-elective-surgery-patients
The Guardian article says it's been implemented by certain health boards and not the central government. Does that mean health care facilities are the ones to decide what happens and not the government? Not entirely sure what to believe at this point.
I found an AP News article that says it hasn't been rolled out nationally and is only in two hospitals atm, but I'm not sure how reputable it is.
As a (hopefully) final update, what I've found online **seems** to indicate that the Maori Health Authority is separate from race-based health care, and does provide Maori-specific services for their communities. But the race-based health care isn't as pervasive as the video makes it seem with it only being in a couple of hospitals and not implemented at a national level, and race seems to be one of only four factors that contribute to a patient's priority listing (though I don't know how heavily race is weighed against other factors). I'm far from an expert though and there isn't a good cache of information about this subject that I could easily find. All I found were some news articles about it that don't go into any specifics and are obviously HEAVILY politicized, so take all of this with a grain of salt.
My parents and younger siblings are halfway through a 6 month stay in Tauranga, and listening to their perspective (which is already a cross cultured one of British and American) was fascinating. We all know the varied geography and ecosystems of NZ, being like that of a mini continent, but their culture and society is also very unique.
Not even including the cultural significance of the Māori, my Mum has described it as a future set in the past. The mindset of a New Zealander is very progressive, yet in many ways the entire country according to my mum reminds her of growing up in England in the 70s. Everything feels old and quaint, even the capital doesn’t necessarily sport the vibrant city life that her neighboring Australia’s cities are famous for. All the cities are of course beautiful and vibrant, but it certainly can be argued to have this “old timey” feel to it.
This doesn’t even get into the unique living setup of NZ, with towns and communities having this odd blend of British (or generally European) naturally flowing town centers with American-esque suburbs alongside. Then the geography plays its part and you can go from feeling like your in England, then suddenly Scotland, and then Norway, and even the Andes, at least to me. Such a fascinating country.
your te reo māori still isn’t perfect but it is clear that you’ve put the effort in; unlike most creators who cover aotearoa.
thanks!
Aotearoa needs a capital
@@PoopusLoopus It's Wellington /s.
@@TempleGuitars ?
Great video, however it is always mentioned that the British were the lawless ones, when in fact the American and French, were much more lawless, hence why the Maori chose the British to form a treaty with
Also something that never seemed to be mentioned is the fact that the Maori were at constant war before the treaty, in fact many chiefs did not show up to the treaty signings because of this
Thank you so much for this video. This is such an important under represented issues that most people outside of aoteroa dont usually know. Love your content
Really interesting stuff! Excited to see more NZ videos
Eagerly awaiting your next as well, my man! Hit us up if you're getting close and want some feedback.
Hello John, how are you doing today
Saw on your website that you are actually a KC native. I just love your shirt. My wife and I joke you can always spot someone from Kansas City no matter where you're at because they'll always be wearing something letting you know. 😂
Shoutout from another KC native!
Go Chiefs!
A different kind of video but very interesting, wouldn’t mind more videos like this.
Hello jack, how are you doing today
Just saw this today, and can’t see the longer video mentioned for the following “two weeks” subbing to see that one.
Hope the research is going well.
Feel free to look up the New Zealand wars. Got more details in that series. Chur
I take it back i think I found it. I just thought it'd be longer
I really like the idea of having shorter videos like this one leading to longer videos. I had no idea about the Maori treaty and it's interesting reinterpretations of the years. I'm excited to find out more!
Nice video , wouldnt mind more like it
Great video
Thank you so much for planning a longer video. You’ve made me painfully curious about the fuller story.
I’m from Canada, and I’m now very interested to compare how the colonization was handled.
Just right off the bat, in Canada most of our native privileges are coded as affirmative action and reparations, which seeps into the kinds of benefits and rights that are given/respected.
I definitely appreciate the phrasings used to describe Māori sovereignty. Just that alone denotes much more respect than the language our government uses.
I’m waiting with bated breath to hear what other differences there are, because just from an outside perspective New Zealand seems to have a much healthier relationship with the Māori people.
You’re doing great work, and spreading good ideas!
Hey NZer here. So basically stuff like priority in Healthcare and education for Maori is more due them being less well off in those in fields compared to other demographics. These are typically unrelated to the Treaty and aren't seen as reparations or the like.
We do have a reparations system, as mentioned it is the Waitangi tribunal. Many, many tribes and people have been able to have land reclaimed or money repaid to them. Something that has been overseen by both sides of the political isle here.
The issue most center and further right voters have is with the unrelated to Treaty boosts that Maori get.
For instance the mentioned ACT party isn't trying to change any rules or agreement. More lay them out in modernized legislation that works in a modern neo liberal society then re-equalize all not mentioned aspects.
Hey NZer here. So basically stuff like priority in Healthcare and education for Maori is more due them being less well off in those in fields compared to other demographics. These are typically unrelated to the Treaty and aren't seen as reparations or the like.
We do have a reparations system, as mentioned it is the Waitangi tribunal. Many, many tribes and people have been able to have land reclaimed or money repaid to them. Something that has been overseen by both sides of the political isle here.
The issue most center and further right voters have is with the unrelated to Treaty boosts that Maori get.
For instance the mentioned ACT party isn't trying to change any rules or agreement. More lay them out in modernized legislation that works in a modern neo liberal society then re-equalize all not mentioned aspects.
Just counting down to 100k now
Hello Stephanie, how are you doing today
The emphasis is on the "ai" in "waitangi", not the second "a"
The Treaty Principles Bill will not change the Treaty itself. That was set in 1840 and will remain forever. What we are seeking to do is continue the process of defining the Treaty principles, for the first time incorporating the voices of all people through a democratic Parliamentary process, instead of through the Tribunal or the courts (ACT n.d.).
Really why was there so many dog whistles in your election adds then
Looks like the proposed refroms are in line with the classic conservative act (no pun intended) of mixing their usual agenda points (economic liberalization, stripping away social rights, etc.) with a couple of issues that do make sense, so that the general population starts treating them as a bundle, effectively slipping their agenda quietly into the non-conservative mindset.
Should do a video on Indigenous groups in Canada (Metis,First Nations and Inuit)
I don't know why but everytime i think about this channel i want to pronounce it like a Greek hero's name
Hello Tom, how are you doing today
Spektakles, Perikles son
I once had a classic car that I sold. It is worth a lot more now and I want it back because I don’t think it was fair
Love the NZ content! But I think a note on pronunciation should be made. "ng" in te rea Māori is more of like the end of the "-ing" suffix in English, "nguh", not the hard "guh" as pronounced here. There are other things, like the tapped/rolled "r" and the vowel system, but that "waitan- gee" stood out the most. Other Kiwis feel free to correct or explain differently.
I wish humanity could do things without checking each other's skin tones first.
my friend Todd didn’t show up to my birthday so I understand :(
effin Todd.
Its my absolute belief, as a South Island NZer, with some Maori blood but no connection to Iwi (I was fostered), that the "sensitivity" to the Treaty, pushed by the establishment onto the general non-maori population, is in fact a trojan horse for opening up New Zealand land & resources to purchase or "management" by foreign entities without NZ consent..
We have a millionaire corporate Evangelical, ex Air NZ CEO as a PM, who is a protege of ex PM John Key, who prior to being "chosen" was litterally an ex US Fed Banker, & head of Meryl Lynch foreign exchange. Nobody can convince me that corporate luxxon, protege of a global Banker, who after his NZ PM Gig went on to head ANZ, Australia/NZs 3rd largest Bank. No one can convince me that Luxxon gives a flying fuk about NZ sovereignty.
The Treaty of Waitangi IS our sovereignty! Codified in international law, its exactly what makes it difficult for foreign corporations & foreign billionaires to buy up huge swathes of NZ land & resources..
Luxxon and Co are "revising" the treaty at the same time that Blackrock, Blackstone, Vanguard etc are seeking to make "investments" into NZ. And National are revising the laws to allow for foreign corporations to "invest" in build to rent schemes, with the plan that they can aquire whole blocks of land if they even build only ONE house..
Revising the treaty is a trojan horse to make Blackrock "investment" into NZ property & land much easier. And what's worse, if the legislation to allow this "investment" goes through, no future NZ government will be able to backtrack & revert the policy, without a massive Investment State Dispute Settlement lawsuit. Meaning that we LOOSE our sovereignty, not to the tricky interpretation of a treaty, but to the threat of blackmail by corporations with bigger marketcaps than NZs entire annual GDP, who basically control the global trade courts..
National know this, but they dont care, because theyre puppets feathering their nests, & the only care they actually have for NZ & NZers is what they can extract from it.. This treaty revision coming now at this time, is a massive trap. Unfortunately too many Kiwis are too easily fooled to see it..
Needs a few more paragraph breaks. But good read.
Needs some good reporting to follow the foreign money so NZ doesn't end up selling out it's sovereignty as much as Australia has.
If it hasn't already.
@@zxvadcsfbh I edited the comment to make it much easier to read haha as recommended.. I think i wrote it originally late at night when i should've been sleeping rather than watching & commenting on UA-cam haha!
Now that's out of the way, the content of the comment itself is no laughing matter. This is exactly what I believe is happening & it saddens me that people can be programmed against their interests by culture wars so easily..
Amazingly stated. I fk with this. Churr brother !
I think Act is right about this one sadly. In the entity's following the signing of the treaty. The Western world (nz as a commonwealth) adopted the idea of Liberal democracy. These override an outdaded document.
Not when the treaty wasn't followed and now maori are facing the negative outcomes of that
@@BenWeaver0 Maori are so oppressed by 'systemic racism' they have their own flag, political party, schools, doctors, rugby team, soccer league, discounts when it comes to court sentences, a gang called, 'Black Power' (go figure)... yeah really, 'oppressed'.
I do and that’s why I am leaving after coming here 7 years ago. I’ve never experienced the ageism and lack of opportunities anywhere in the world as I have here. It’s actually quite staggering how bad it is here now.
Good luck.
I agree with you there.
The reason Māori (and other pasifika) have healthcare priority is the years of subjugation and loss of generational wealth has meant on average their health outcomes are a lot worse than they are for Pakeha. Which is very much linked to the government ignoring the treaty in my opinion. Maybe not directly caused by but it’s certainly a factor.
Glad someone else added to this as well. Māori life expectancy is about 7 years lesser than Pākeha (NZ Europeans) as a result of the this subjugation. The differing prioritisation of Māori health issues is about life preservation and re-balancing the scales of treatment. Equity!
The way he says waitangi is so weird lmao, you ain’t meant to emphasise the g like that 💀
It would have been nice to know what *all* of the “special rights” in question actually are. If they’re excessive it could make sense that they’re removed, if they’re reasonable it should stand.
The two mentioned in this video seem to be that they have some sort of special privileges to their land, which is understandable, but special access to healthcare… not so much…
Maori are so oppressed by 'systemic racism' they have their own flag, political party, schools, doctors, rugby team, soccer league, discounts when it comes to court sentences, a gang called, 'Black Power' (go figure)... yeah really, 'oppressed'.
The NZ media can be extremely biased. As far as Healthcare goes, NZ Statistics show that Maori die much younger than Pakeha here in NZ (as much as 20 years). Also NZ has held the Number 1 spot for highest teenage suicide rate (for over 4 decades) with Male Maori highly represented. So the 'Special Treatment' seems to be leading to negative outcomes.
Hello David, how are you doing today.
kia ora for that👍
can you look into the waikato milita. of the 1860s particular the 4th ariving in 1964
Nice, rockin' a KC-'T' in the land of Z. Though it'd be more accurate if it were to say, "Greetings from Kansas City, a city in Missouri'.
Maori are a beautiful, strong and proud people! Much respect
Watching a foreigner trying to summarise the most contentious political issue in NZ in under 7 minutes...well, it's basically an impossible task I guess. You've presented the most mainstream view, which isn't particularly close to the truth in my opinion, but a properly nuanced take would need an hour at least.
Lets just say that the Treaty of Waitangi itself is talismanic. There is little problem with it in its own right, people just use it as shorthand for every problem Maori have. Many of these grievances are justified as being caused by dishonourable or questionably legal behaviour by British descendants, but many of these grievances are also quite opportunistic and unjustified. It's a very left/right polarised issue in New Zealand and therefore incredibly hard to find a balanced take on it.
Everyone in NZ wants to be there 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
you should run for president.
New Zealand isn't subtropical.
Actually in Northland, where Waitangi is, it kinda is, with mangroves and everything. Northland is only a small part of NZ though, the rest of which is definitely not sub-tropical.
@@korakysThanks, I stand corrected. I've only visited NZ once, in the 1970s, and in the few weeks I was there I never made it to Northland. On a global map the whole country looks too far south to be subtropical - but sometimes local factors can be more important than latitude alone and Wikipedia backs up that this part of NZ actually does have a subtropical climate.
Waitangi is not our birth place, New Zealand wasn't 'Created" in 1840, 1947 would be a better year, its when we got our independence.
Wow. Good job. Really impressive that you seem to have more understanding of some of the issues surrounding the treaty than many who were born here. The thing with Māori seemingly getting preferential health care is that, they need it. Years of racist policies and the poverty that has caused has decimated Māori. For a country that prides itself on the illusion of equality between Māori and tangata tiriti, health outcomes for Māori are considerably worse. Life expectancy for Māori is about 7 years less than for Pākeha. The other problem with this particular coalition wanting to reform the treaty is that many of us, simply don't trust them, or their ulterior motives. Seymour and his o̶w̶n̶e̶r̶s̶ donors are overtly racist while most of the others are more covert but, still very much prepared to sacrifice the poor and/or less fortunate so their mates can profit.
You know Seymour is part Māori, don’t you?
@@davekean568 Yes, l do know. Seems to make it much more of a betrayal don't you think?
Like 999
Is New Zealand the AI generated version of Old Zealand?
European politics: let’s discuss and figure out whether the people we stole this land from have any rights living on it
I mean, none of the people involved in this affair today are the same people as from back then. Regardless, this is not unique to Europeans.
Hey Moron, first it's not Europeans in the traditional sense - like you are implying. It is New Zealanders. Do you think Maori are excluded from the discussion? Why should they have special rights to the land, we can't right history, and need to deal in modern realities. DO you suggest all New Zealanders from European descend evict themselves? Do you even realize what you are saying?
OFF COURSE they have rights, but should have they special rights because of the color of their skin or their background?
Maori are so oppressed by 'systemic racism' they have their own flag, political party, schools, doctors, rugby team, soccer league, discounts when it comes to court sentences, a gang called, 'Black Power' (go figure)... yeah really, 'oppressed'.
Any rights? Are you kidding? The British ended slavery out of the goodness of their heart and for no other reason and then convinced the Maori that everyone should have equal rights. That means the highest person in the land and the lowest have equal rights. The land was not stolen at all. It was fairly agreed in a really good treaty that benefitted everyone.
Can’t you come up with anything original?
The question is did the natives of NZ conquer or have wars with other tribes within? If so then the english won the war and took the land fairly.
Yes there was plenty of war between the natives, before the english
“Fairly”
@@Arahura2011 I’m sure the natives committed atrocities too. They lost that’s it
@@DiegoGuerrero-zy5ne don't think you know the whole story but you're entitled to your own opinion on it. :)
I'd like more on this. Especially if there's any insight in a larger "culture war"/"left vs right" sort of view.
Maybe touch on the recent stuff from Richard Dawkins on Mātauranga Maori, and the whyevolutionistrue blogs. Maybe how both sides use science as a cudgel of self righteous holier than thou politics. Maybe how we got here, like with Jacinda's comments on "two classes of people" "dismiss anything else, we will continue to be your single source of truth" etc...
This is definitely a "culture war" thing. The conservative government last year were elected to address issues Labour failed on, predominantly cost of living problems, and now that's all been forgotten now that this relatively fringe right wing libertarian party ACT have once again turned the country into a culture battleground whilst we all stil suffer.
I wouldn't say it has lots to do with Jacinda (who oddly enough "anti-woke" foreigners seem to care a lot more about than than actual NZers) but it can't be denied her parties government did push through multiple Maori rights laws that were inevitably going to be prone to backlash which we're seeing now. That backlash, however, seems to be going a bit too far when even the ruling centre-right National party don't really have much enthusiasm to help ACT push their reforms through
*promo sm* 💪
Appreciate your effort but the first negative is your statement regarding the govt attempting to reverse the treaty - you can't be further from the truth. The principles bill is seperate from the Treaty and the govt has been very clear that the Treaty will stand as it is.
Another view based on bias.... if you look at what is being discussed it is seeking the improvement of the negative impacts on Maori and the general population etc.
The prime minister (and thus head of the majority in the leadership coalition) has already said he will not be supporting the ACT party’s proposed bill. It’s not great teamwork, sure, but while he knew he had to get into bed a few far-rightists to get elected, the centre-right majority party led by the PM will not let things go that far. The noisy racist uncles are at the dining table for the next couple of years, but we can ignore them. Well, let’s hope…
This whole debacle really worries me, not necessarily only because they want to repeal the founding document of our country, but because ACT have somehow manipulated the entire country into focusing on some culture war bullshit instead of the overwhelming cost of living and crime crisis that THEY THEMSELVES campaigned hard on to get elected. I fear it's only going to get worse from here, but I respect Luxon for at least not supporting Seymours rhetoric even as a coalition partner
I voted for Jacinda but unfortunately she did a huge amount of damage to NZ. This time I voted for ACT and have been very happy with their effort to get us back on a financially sober and culturally equal track.
As an old follower who unsubscribed from your channel in the last three weeks, I have one question that's been nagging me while I'm watching this video: why are you doing all of this? What is this channel all about? It certainly doesn't seem to be about money. I think it would be better to share your story because it's more likely to resonate with your audience. That's why we followed you in the first place. Welcome back!
conservatives and abolishing native populations rights, name a more iconic duo
new treaties are just as lawful. they should not get special rights if they lost a war. just is what it is.
Factually inaccurate
Lmao how?
Yes, he makes a lot of mistakes.
As a kiwi, thank you so much for covering this. Its awful to see things going backwards under our new right wing government, not to mention worrisome as a poor trans person
Cry me a river...
Oh boo-hoo, not gonna feel sorry for you because you’re trans. Grow up
Im from Aotearoa, New Zealand. It is sad to see that the right wing govt we currently have is going to fuck everything up for indigenous rights unless we protest, stand together, and dont give up.
Kia kaha! Toitū Te Tiriti!!!
Don’t be dumb, your rights are the same as everyone else
Maori are so oppressed by 'systemic racism' they have their own flag, political party, schools, doctors, rugby team, soccer league, discounts when it comes to court sentences, a gang called, 'Black Power' (go figure)... yeah really, 'oppressed'.
Stop it, you’re making a fool of yourself, do some research
Maori definitely ceded sovereignty. Sovereignty includes the power of life and death. Only the Crown can give that power - like to police and soldiers in some circumstances. But Maori absolutely do not have that power.
Before the treaty Maori practised massacres, slavery and cannibalism against other tribes. They gave that power away for their own security.
PS It was the late great Maori parliamentarian Sir Apirana Ngata who raised this point in the early 20th century about sovereignty and the power of life and death.
It is time to let the past be the past exspecially when noone lives anymore whom was done wrong
Wanting something like an own maori state is just demographically as revisionist as putin claiming ukraine because of it's history
This is not ancient history, there was even land only taken in like the 1940s that was addressed in the Waitangi Tribunal. Also you're naive to think Maori are fully accepted in society. Ask any slight conservative Pakeha uncle/grandpa about them anbd he'll probably go on a rant amount "them bloody maari"
@@mapper7310 yes...however then there is the question...how many 'true' Maori are even left? Guide Rangi was the last true full blooded Maori in the country and she passed away in the early 1970's...I'm in my mid 60's and I'm an eighth....so Generationally speaking there should be no legal Maori being born at the moment......as a 16th is the legal cut off...so there is this question that needs to be ratified....if there are no more legal Maori in the country, why is there a need to have separate anything? Just because you look Maori, doesn't mean you are Maori?
@@mapper7310 If that was true then why are Maori over-represented in parliament? Why are the current Prime Ministers both Maori?
@@kiwiyogi2846 You're not wrong... but let's be honest, neither Seymour nor Peters represent views held by the majority of Maori in this country.
Very one sided commentary. The "lawlessness" was also being perpetrated between tribes. The indigenous population was very fractured and tribal essentially micro nations that were often involved in conflicts and skirmishes. Maori were in no way a sovereign nation. Signing a treaty was to the benefit of those weaker tribes from being dominated by stronger tribes AND to reduce lawlessness from whalers etc. why do you think they needed so many signatures!?
HELLO Paul, how are you doing today
If we’re being honest, there really aren’t any valid reasons for the Māori (or anyone else) to get any “special rights” in modern New Zealand.
Unless of course the British colonial government legally obliged themselves to provide them.
@@spectacles-dm Like I said, no valid reasons.
@@Adam-326 The British government keeping its word is not a valid reason? Rule of Law is not a valid reason?
@@serebii666 Honestly, no. At this point, everyone should be equal citizens of New Zealand, and none should have any more rights, privileges or advantages over any other.
@@Adam-326 You in one breath say that people should be equal citizens while contradicting yourself in saying Rule of Law should not be upheld. Please take an primary school course on civic education, you really, really need to.
How could you do a video on this and not know how to pronounce 'Waitangi'? It's actually insulting.