MK6 GLI with CTS K04 and APR software on the dyno.
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Adding to our database, we have another MK6 GLI with a CTS K04x turbo upgrade and APR software running 91oct.
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We're working on some fun content that's not quite ready so here's something we had filmed a while ago to add to the database. More stuff coming I promise.
Top notch video again, love the dive into the numbers/tech aspect. Keep up the great work.
@@GearGuy2001 Appreciate it, this video was sitting for a while and I wasn't even going to post it. But the other stuff we're working on is taking a bit so I figured at least it's some content. So it's nice to hear someone appreciates it. Thanks.
What's the most hp you guys ever gotten from the gen 2 engine stock internals but with a bigger turbo than the ko4?
If i can drop off my jetta can you save it ?:/ Im located in salem oregon have been too every shop and been rejected by most , I have been 5 shops
@@juliogomez4664 I guess that depends what "save" entrails.
Thanks again Dave👍 this car has been nothing but fun since the K04x!
I do appreciate this content.. I own a Mk6 GLI and this information is invaluable!
Great video. I’m about to have my mechanic install a cts ko4, downpipe and ecu/tcu software for my 2011 CC and i haven’t been able to find videos as good as this for reference
great video! It would be cool to see the owner's first driving reaction
Great Video! I love how you guys are trying to build basically a forum of VW/Audi builds here on UA-cam, very informative.
Thanks!
Love to see the work you guys do and how knowledgeable you are getting it done Caunt wait to have you massage some more whp out of my 2002 1.8t stroker
What's your setup? I'm waiting on machining for my stroker build. JE pistons, IE Tuscan rods, and a new FSI crank from IE through Uro tuning. The turbo I want is the Borg Warner EFR 6258. Really pricey turbo, so we'll see.
Oh wow! I have a 02 1.8t Passat, absolutely love that engine! I have a stage II unitronic tune with a downpipe, super fun & super reliable.
thanks for making gli content
Awesome video, awesome tuning!
Your one of the very few tuners who understands the compressor surge with the k04-064 and maps around it compared to the others. Great content as always! Would love to see what you could do with some 99 octane like we get here in the UK
I was wondering why the graph looks like that. Makes sense.
That would be pretty close to the 93 e10 that we get here. He's said many times they only have 91 with little to no ethanol (which would be roughly equivalent to your 95, not quite but close).
They could definitely squeeze more out of it with that, even more of they went for e85. That would be an amazing tune on that thing if they had ready access to it.
There's definitely more in the turbo, but it becomes a battle of managing power and keeping it all alive.
really good video man!
Appreciate the content
Just bought the cts ko4 upgrade for my 2012 beetle turbo 2.0tsi e888 gen1 cbfa... installation will be on Sunday with untronic stage 2+ ko4 tune +fbo... can't wait to hurt some feelings 😂
Just bought one !! How was the install on that ? Any tips ? I’m doing mine when it arrives .
@Buzz Race I have not installed it yet.. my dp didn't have a 02 bung for the upstream o2 that's on the ihi turbo...
Not a big deal. I tapped and welded a bung and will be installing this Saturday
Nice love them GLI needs some mk5 k04 GLI fsi
Stock FSI can't handle what's capable out of a K04. Yes we've done them, expect less power than this.
Great #s!
Love ko4 but I'm a mk7 Man so is38 all the way
Love it!
What’s is the “normal” boost pressure for a stock fueling , 3bar “over the shelf tune” on a k04 TSI engine ?
He needs intake also
I wonder how much power would have been picked up after a walnut carbon cleaning of the valves ?
It would have to be real bad to impact power. Usually when it gets bad they missfire so it would have never made it to the dyno before cleaning.
Nice wheels bro... What wheels(size and name) do you have on there and where can I get them?
Is this k04X inside a k03 housings or is it bigger than BW k04 064
No idea, specs would be on CTS's website.
Please do a Mark 7.5 with a DTR 6054...🔥 Love the content.
We've only done one so far, we're waiting for more in house data to compare to.
i test drove a mk6 at a dealership so im not sure what was done to it, but anyways it wheel hopped like crazy. anything you can do to these cars to reduce that?
I have a mk6 & got rid of 98% of wheel hop with upgraded dogbone mount & insert, revo motor & trans mount & now I have no wheel hop
Is there a way I wonder to get my GLI On the Dyno with CTS Boss Turbo Kit it already has on it, with Unitronic Stage 3 software just too see what power it makes to the wheels? 👀
Of course.
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I second this also have the same car gen 3 stage 2 unitronic 93 tune made 279 and 330 going cts boss kit can’t wait to see
@@jaygray99yo will definitely be working on it once I get my low pressure fuel pump I’m gonna hit them up professionally 👌🏽
Great video as always. Would be curious to know if in-fact that’s a K04X or the standard K04. I’ve read mixed opinions on how that turbo runs on OTS K04 tunes.
I have zero reason to believe it's not.
@@COMotorsports would you attribute the power level of this car being above the last K04 dyno video on the K04X? If I recall correctly this car was ~40whp higher than the last one.
@@nates2243 nope, more so do with the upgraded MAP sensor which allows more boost.
I haven't done a comparison between both of those turbos back to back to know the difference between them. On paper the X should outperform. It's just a matter of having the setup to actually be able to do that.
@@COMotorsports the other K04 GLI wasn’t on the 3 bar APR file? I didn’t know they offered any other tune for this turbo these days.
@@nates2243 you can only run the bigger map sensor file if you were an existing stage 2 customer.
Have you guys done a IE stage 3 turbo setup yet on an MK7R with the 2260s turbo?
Wish you guys where closer to me as i would bring you my car to have the IE intercooler, HPFP, 2260s turbo and the IE Flex Fuel kit! Im finding to to be a bit over whelming to install these parts my self!
Have not done IE stage 3.
is this still on stock clutch? new to the mk6 platform and not sure what supporting mods are needed to run K04x and apr stage 2 outside of the 4 bar map sensor that you mentioned. I assume a less restricted downpipe is also required.
The map sensor will be specific to the file you run, most don't offer a MAP sensor file. Clutch you will need for sure.
I have a 13' gti with literally the exact same setup. Even down to the catless custom exhaust. But I do have a twincooler setup on 93 octane. If I do a cts k04 could I be seeing 350whp?
@@dannyharris5300 you would see slightly more then this simply due to octane.
@COMotorsports ok one last question. Could I run race gas 104 Oct and if so how much?
@@dannyharris5300 sure, but you're not going to gain much power if any on a 93 tune. Would come down to how aggressive your tune is. If you run a specific 104 file then yes you'd gain again.
@COMotorsports oh ok. Thanks buddy. At what hp would I need to open the engine and put hd clutch in the dsg?
@@dannyharris5300 DSG is fine with software at that power level, same as engine. However fueling becomes the first problem, shorter after engine.
how much bhp could you expect to make on a NA R32 with internal mods? i'm a big fan of the NA sound and don't want to change its signature grunt. Love the content BTW.
Turbo will only make it sound better. But there are plenty of 3.2 NA VR6's dyno's on our channel.
You should dyno a tdi next
We like making power 😉
Any chance of running a mk6 GTI/gli with k04 Revo tune? Cheers
Revo basically doesn't exist here.... so unlikely.
@@COMotorsports understood, I'll be dropping in some rods, vs, pistons ect shortly on mine with a k04x.
Maybe I'll find myself near your neck of the woods someday. Cheers...
What happened to the 600whp Gti 1.8t.? Have you take the engine apart?
Literally sitting where I parked it when I pulled it off the dyno. I do plan on pulling it apart and have another engine I might sacrifice... it's just time is the problem. Clients cars come first so playing for YT is tough.
I really feel that those heavy wheels will hinder that car on the road. Just something I was thinking sbout
Light wheels definitely make a difference, no question.
Is there an aftermarket DV?? I hear almost no whistle
Stock.
Is that the factory pvc valve? I have a Mk6 stage 2+ unitronic GLI. I tried a couple catch can set ups. They causing me troubles. Thinking of going back to OEM set up. I would appreciate Any advice. Thanks
What troubles?
@@COMotorsports I have pictures of the way I got it set up if ur interested. Currently I have the 034 “Africa plate” it replaces the oem pvc. I was filling my catch can up with oil every couple of hundred miles. I started blowing boost pipes and had a lot of oil blowing out of the charge pipe by the timing chains. I thought my rings were bad. I pulled my spark plugs and had oil above the spark plugs. I heard the block off pvc could be creating a neg drawl situation.
@@wvsnwbrdr Never used the 034 kit, what's the other kit you've tried?
@@COMotorsports BFI “clean catch” kit
it incorporated the OEM pvc valve. I thought if I could eliminate the OEM valve then I would not have to keep replacing it. I had no idea all the trouble it could cause.
@@wvsnwbrdr you are lucky you have not blown the rear main seal yet!
do you have any b7 passats as customers? if so, what kind of power do they make?
Yes, it's the same engine, so no different then any of the GTIs we do.
@@COMotorsports ive got a '17 1.8t I'm waiting to do stage 2 with an is20. getting my downpipe on when i have time then gotta find a tuner, since APR discontinued stage 2
@@Kevin-hm2di it will still make more power with just the downpipe.
Alright bud I have an FBO IS38 MK7 GLI. Currently IE does NOT have a flex tune for the car but apparently have one in the works. Ideally I could do that, flash it once and put whatever fuel in it. On the other hand, I'm thinking it may be a bit conservative and not make a ton of power. My other thinking is to go with EQT and do a 91 tune for most of the time and do their E30 tune as basically a send it tune (not looking to break any records here but would like to make good power for what I have done to the car). Currently the fueling is stock, and aside from possibly a HPFP for the IE setup, I'd like to keep it that way. What do you think? Comparable power likely if I was running ~E60 on the IE tune compared to E30 with the EQT?
All you ever need from one car
Where are you guys located
I’m looking for a new tuner
East coast Canada
Is that a gen 3 or 2?
K04 does not fit gen3
@@COMotorsports ok that's what I thought.
Your stage 3 vr6 turbo kit what can it make hp wise,
It's not exactly ours. We don't offer a complete kit. However we did build that kit. Power really comes down to fueling and engine. Stock engine with headspacer will make 500whp no problem. Engine mods, much more.
@@COMotorsports so basically on a stock motor, with headspacer, headstuds and stock internals I can get over 500whp
@@BackyardBuildsCAD Depends on fuel and turbo. But yes been done plenty of times. The R32 we recently did on our channel would easily make 500whp. We only stopped as we met the customers goals. But the same kit on the other R32 made 49Xwhp on a crappier turbo.
@@COMotorsports where I live in Ontario we have acces to race gas but mainly 94oct with that CTS turbo kit stage 3 on 94 it can do it? Cause if so I’ll be buying that kit
@@BackyardBuildsCAD CTS does not offer an R32 Turbo kit.
I have 2013 gli, with downpipe intake, oil catch can, boost tap, upgrade turbo divert Valve, on stage 2, looking for more mods if anyone can please help me
Intercooler, then turbo.
@@COMotorsports should I keep it as a daily after those and then go into some serious mods on a better build?
@@chapoiswashed9616 thats up to you and your budget.
I have a 08 Gti fsi k04, I am having a issue where I am getting misfires at 5k rpm only in boost. The misfire is so aggressive that the light start flashing, and the only codes are random misfire. Brand new s3 injectors, ngk plugs, and coil packs. If you have any idea what can cause a problem like that, let me know.
Gap plugs smaller
@@COMotorsports It's at .019 inches right now. What do you recommend?
@@GTIMKV Go smaller, if that doesn't work check compression, and go through ignition system.
Speak to r-tech if your in the uk
@@BlaxJakx i am in the united states
Me getting confused cuz mk6 but forget it doesn't follow the male line as a gold lol
Golf
Why is it smoking so much?
PCV
Looks like it burns as much oil as my old mk6 .time for a good catchcan not named CTS
CTS Catch cans are fine. But yes PCV needs updating.
@@COMotorsports it's "fine " but the can is to small I used to fill it every 4 days and I was emptying it so much on my daily I ended up drilling and tapping a 1/4 npt pipe and elbow with a 1/4" ball valve and a hose to the ground to drain it .don't think it's the best design the spulen one I heard was good