Does Surveillance Tech Make Schools Safer?
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- Despite schools being the safest they’ve been in over 30 years, more and more schools have turned to surveillance--facial recognition cameras, apps that track movements, and software that monitors email and social media accounts--in the name of safety. And the tug of war between student privacy and surveillance wages on while tech companies make a lot of money off this new industry.
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*What kind of student surveillance is going on?*
In the United States, federally-funded schools are required to have a plan for monitoring students’ internet lives. Some install monitoring tools on all school-issued equipment, like computers and tablets. Some just block inappropriate content. Others have gone much further, using monitoring tools that scan social media posts, emails, and internet searches.
*What is the argument FOR student surveillance?*
This part is simple. It’s to keep kids safe from bullying, self-harm, and deadly violence, like shooters. And a bunch of tech surveillance companies--Gaggle, Bark, Securly, Social Sentinel, to name a few--are making a lot of money off of this new industry. One that’s getting all the more lucrative as most classes move online.
*What is the argument AGAINST student surveillance?*
The flipside, less simple. There are many problems with it. The biggest is that we don’t have proof that it works, especially better than other methods. There are false positives in with scanning software and even the humans that filter through flagged content. Some of these tools can cause students to be afraid to reach out for help online or silence their political activities online. And these methods also seem to hurt students of color more. It also makes kids way too comfortable having no privacy online. Experts worry that it’s teaching students that being an adult means giving up your online privacy.
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What do you think...should schools monitor students' behavior on school-issued devices? Where should they draw the line between protecting and snooping on students?
Nah
It’s are private stuff not there’s and it’s werid and annoying
I'm ok with them blocking certain websites on school-issued devices, but any active monitoring is absolutely deplorable.
I agree with you
Above The Noise if they were looking at data stored on school-issued devices, that’s fine. but if it’s looking through a camera, or listening through a microphone, or looking at data on devices that aren’t owned by the school, or looking at their accounts, then that’s an invasion of privacy
Schools authority should legally be limited to school equipment and school networks...
1972razrback exactly!
agreed
and it is.
@@genesis1914 Not always, If a student posts something at home that the school doesn't like and another student accesses it from a school computer then the school says it has the right to punish the student that posted it in the first place.
@@1972razrback In that case it was the student’s fault for exercising bad opsec. Still though, the school should not have any right to punish a student over something they said outside of school, and is infringing on the student’s right to freedom of expression.
I’m wondering if my school is gonna track me because I left a bad review on my schools website.
Lmao
Bruh
I did that too.... welp *haha* I’m in danger
0_0 **gulp**
lol same
I feel sorry about the teacher who sees my search history
Same lol
thats kinda sus ngl
i have the worst search history out of every single person in the world TvT, thats why im worried that the teachers can see what im doing.
If i kept my search history that i recently searched, they would see
“Friday Night Funkin itch.io”
“Fnf whitty”
“Fnf boyfriend”
“Fnf”
“Newgrounds”
“Madness combat”
“Pico’s School”
I got rid of it so my parents didn’t know what i was doing while they weren’t in the room. And so I could play friday night funkin without being noticed (my parents would say im too young cause of the game over screen and girlfriend saying “shit”)
@@bearboy8103 wanna see my search history? Theres more web than there is words i use every year
My school installed their a way to watch us on our person computers and it’s a big deal in my school
Omg that sucks.
Yeah they had to download something to see what we are on then closes out of our tabs 🙄
Same but it only works if you use either zoom or canvas so I just use the chrome book for work and I use my personal computer for other stuff but if you want them to not see it just restart your computer every day and the program will have to restart every day
@@spookeditz3519 I mean, you should just restart your computer everyday in general.
BRUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
My college district recently decided to cut ties with Proctorio, and I am so hyped because proctoring is one thing, but to make a student do a complete 360 of their surroundings and watching students' every movement is just awful, and if anything, it amplifies stress and anxiety while students are taking an exam. As a professor, I've always found it to be a huge invasion of privacy.
Thanks for watching and sharing your views on this!
I have to say this opinion before I even watch the video. The schools should not monitor your activity online, it's not their job. Their job is to teach you. Now Schools own networks should be monitored and such, but that's limited just to their network access and such (I'm totally not using the right language here but I hope it's getting across)
My school has cameras so every student literally feels WATCHED, plus i wish i never knew this because i would be a lot less worried
Exactly, they are here to teach us not to CREEP on us
But school may not be able to teach you because you are distracted by that online bully or that school shooting threat. And if you believe you are doing nothing wrong it shouldn’t be that hard to defend yourself. With people being scared to join religious group on social media maybe they aren’t ready to do that in the first place but social media provide a sense of security that can sometimes lead you into the wrong direction.
My school forced everyone to stop using their personal devices for learning since people were playing during class. Now we have to use laptops that belong to the schools so they can know what we do.
Imagine being on the hub and the school watching 😳
Yeah school spies on u on ur personal devices and that's illegal
@@myorganizeracount7486 as long as it's installed it's legal
@@tacticalmanx759 not if its impossible to uninstall and actually spies on your sensitive information (camera, audio, search history)
then it is something called "spyware"
@@corbinius. everything is possible to uninstall, most people just don't have technical knowledge. You can modify the disk on another device and uninstall from that, or you can use a software interface. If it hides itself from the uninstall panel it's still legal. Wanna know why? YOU installed it. Spyware is legal, especially if you SIGN A CONTRACT TO AGREE. Most schools have a technical use policy. Even if they don't, I agree they shouldn't spy on you, but unfortunately it's legal.
@@corbinius. it’s not impossible, it’s called factory reset
I think it makes sense to have surveillance in the school structure itself and any equipment owned by the school but they should not be allowed to see what students do with their own personal property outside of school unless there's a reasonable amount of suspicion that something's really wrong. Like with the 4th amendment, how cops can't come in and search your house without a reasonable amount of suspicion and a warrant. But assuming the students are minors, parents can choose to monitor their kids' online activity if they so wish of course.
When i first got school laptop, i would factory reset and network reset, upgrade windows and antivirus, use vpn as necessary, and put some tapes on my webcam
copied
buy ur own laptop
My middle schools just blocks websites on the school computer. But my Mother said the school board was considering scaning our phones and computers and blocking websites on it. Since "we take our schools repretation with us". I hate that, I think schools should just block on their own property. Unless students are considered property now. Plus idk what my school would consider inappropriate on my phone its probably a long list. It's also like they don't trust me, I don't blame them considering that time I used my phone in class.
Yeah my school blocks the news and there own stuff too so hopefully they don’t do that
Vpns, kiddos
@@samuelturley2285 Ik it's a hard knock
@@spencerjames9417 Dont ya think there going to block VPN
@@spencerjames9417 won't work. It's computer --> wifi --> vpn --> target. Did you know that the encryption can literally be fucking decrypted easily, and online decryptors exist. VPNs won't do anything in this situation except slow down your browsing.
Could you please also address the issue of monitoring software collecting student data to sell to advertisers? A university in my city openly admitted the monitoring software monitored even when you weren't doing anything to do with school, even when you told it not to, and could access files without having to wait for you to open them. This wasn't to keep students safe. The university openly admitted it would sell student data if it ever went bankrupt... THAT was why the students were forced to download the software
😨 that sounds so shady! Thanks for raising this point. We didn’t get into that because we were focused on high schools, where they do have pretty strict policies in most districts about shielding students’ data from advertising. But it would be super interesting to look into what’s happening on that front in higher Ed.
Well, when it comes to preventing students from committing suicide, self-harming, or school shootings, this internet surveillance is only trying to stop symptoms of the larger problem which is the student's mental health. Most schools don't have that many counselors and they do not encourage their students to seek out help. Schools are putting a ton of money into stopping the symptoms from occurring, but they do not seem as worried about the cause of these actions.
Amen to that.
Being a adolescent is hard for everyone. I didn't feel really better in my mind until my mid-twenties. (Always been a late bloomer.)
Improving the overall mental heath of adolescents would require more human involvment and less companies selling off-the-shelf solutions. But the USA and it's capitalism glory will never even consider this an option. (I'm not implying that France and our Macron would be any better.)
I accidentally searched up how to ki** yourself on my school acc 🙃 😭 I'm screwed
my school encourages them to seek out help but im pretty sure all they wanna do is bait people into telling them secrets so they can get rid of anyone they declare not normal
Snooping (ie.surveillance) confirms lack of trust on the part of the schools, and also gives those snooped upon every reason to distrust those doing it.
The schools’ and teachers’ job is to *teach* their students and it’s not their job to *spy* on them. How come they don’t know that that was a *privacy invasion* ? They should use their knowledge to know that what they’re doing was illegal
If that post is made public everyone is allowed to see it and most schools only monitor public account. But it is a invasion of privacy if it is a private account. But at the same time if they have evidence and reason to check a private account like a possible school shooting they could. And yes you might not like the school watching your social media but would you rather a school shooting and getting cyber bullied
Dude exactly and it's so anyyoing too they always be closing my tab your supposed to teach not go on "spying kids"
Guys i Willfully looked up "Why are you reading my history teacher" Prob question me in class now LOL
bro i got on the school wifi and it gave me a notif that someone is snooping through my device
I would say, blocking inappropriate content and it should only be limited to school accounts and computers. Also I agree with @Leila I think that schools are attacking the symptoms of the problem itself which is the mental health of students.
My school dose block sites but most of them are harmless and even fun math game I lost hope in school
I'm against the surveillance and in most cases technology. I'd rather schools used thinclients, whitelists and other restrictions, ban mobile devices by using jammers and let the kids be. In event of any kind of threat, the jamming technology be turned off. I also think there should be a discussion in school about social media psychology, threats, addictions etc. as part of the curriculum in some mandatory course such as English or History.
Thanks for sharing your perspective.
My school has this elective about this stuff. They call it Apps for Academics.
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As always with your topics, it’s complicated! I don’t know the answer, but I feel there’s gotta be a line somewhere. I’m imagining a sad future where advanced technology is used in schools to capture and analyze every single student’s conversations on campus, virtual and face to face. And perhaps that same tech is used by parents off campus (such as a kind of spying wristwatch). Kids are people too, and they deserve a certain degree of privacy. But of course we want to keep them safe, so maybe it’s a matter of balancing privacy and surveillance. Some surveillance is good but let’s not get carried away.
Surveillance as in security cameras in school? Fine. But nothing on computers, and nothing for outside of school. Period. This abuse of power needs to end.
Cameras in school? No way. I'm glad I grew up in the '80s and 90s.
Do you know what to do if you 4th and 5th grade teacher is spying on you
Hawthorn's study on observation shows that people clearly change their behaviour when they are being watched. What does this mean for democracy? our young people cannot develop character outside the bounds of someone else's rules, the system is no longer BY them, but ABOVE them.
i’m not gonna lie I’d rather be bullied than have my privacy and freedom taken away
Me too
same
I think they should only watch stuff directly related to school. As long as they don't watch everything you do on your phone it's ok.
can't fathom how broken the US's society is!
I think having no privacy is damaging psychologically
Can you elaborate a little? That's what some of the experts we spoke with worried about, too.
@@AboveTheNoise knowing that you don't have privacy and you're being monitored can make you feel vulnerable and anxious. I think that even for kids/teens it's important to have some measure of privacy for their mental health.
It’s as if with the surveillance they’re not trusting the user will do the right thing so they’ll watch you to make sure you do. It also doesn’t give a person permission to make mistakes and that they can be forgiven or fixed - a critical step in personal development and figuring out what works best for their studying/working style and lifestyle. Vulnerability feels dangerous even though it’s what we need to be human and have empathy.
my search history must be fun to go through
I’m on my person computer but my school email is on there so I just want to make sure I not being watched
same
Nah you good fam. Its only if the device is owned by the district. The only way they will be able to monitor you is if they hack into your personal device. If they do, you can sue them
Yeah bro i have my school email on my personal PC but they cant monitor me. Only if the device is owned by the district mate.
@@MQretrolite can they see through your camera when it’s off?
Yeah also don't use their WiFi
Schools are meant to educate students, not spy on them and put literal spyware on their computers. Instead of purposely putting viruses on students' devicecs just teach them internet safety and how to insure it.
Bro I just paid 350$ for my school laptop and they surveil everything
What a scam
@@elderlywoman4544 just pull a no russian
This happened to me the school got involved as my friend logged into my phone and sweared at my friend and then the school thought it was me I was so confused when they said i was getting in trouble for something I didn’t even do it is outrageous that they get involved
The last time I thought school was safe a pipe in the 7th grade science room started leaking
Pupils need to be taught how to use strong encryption and VPNs on their devices, I suppose.
Students: bullying is annoying
Me:Goes to gym becomes a powerlifter
Also me:where are they
Only weakling nerds get bullied.
At the gym, Goofy. Do you think bullies are all thin or unfit people? Do you think they can't work out? Bullying isn't "annoying." It can demoralizing, miserable, and torturous. Annoying is understating the problem.
@@knightofkorbin888 calm down its just a joke and I know how bullying is
@@H.-.......-1b I'm sorry. That was too harsh of a response for a joke. I was so irritated I forgot to put a "be" in-between "can" and "demoralizing." I suppose I was taking bullying too seriously and I overlooked your well-meaning attempt to add humor to the situation.
Excellent explanation of the issues. I will be using this in my classroom to kick off a socratic seminar discussion in my Computer Science Class.
Awesome! We love to hear that! Let us know how your students react to the video.
my school wanted our personal computers MAC addresses (wi-fi address) and i think it's very suspicious
I mean I don’t mind it but if I ever get in trouble because of something I do at home, that’s when I’m suing
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I never would use my school computer for anything other then school work because I already figured they were doing this.
Anyone here who has Securly knows the pain of researching certain things.
Me my school have securely ands it a pain
All I know is if im browsing Reddit for a game in class during down time then I should be able to
Do you realise in Australia well they just block them
My school did this but they can not see your Owed computer so good thing I don’t have the schools
well my school has FULL ACCESS over my PC and can see my searches and even blocks basically everything
waters e is it owned by the school or is it your personal one?
personal
waters e ok that’s messed up
@@notthatreal are you using school wifi
@@aneeqfarooq4441 nope
And they wonder why I turn my camera off
*chuckles in gaming pc*
So when will people start to understand that everyone is the same even with different skin color?
Never, they're just going to say it's racist even though it's the exact opposite
If you find the name of the extension put on your computer, you can go to your local disk folder and search for a file with that name. Idek how it got on my home computer, but you can still delete it.
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@@blahblahblah....7102 if the extension was downloaded just removing the account won't do anything. Try searching the name of the extension in your files if you know it or look up how to locate extension files to delete it. Just don't do this on a school owned device because that would be "misuse of district technology"
They should not do this. As long as youre able to get the correct information from the internet for the schoolwork, you shouldn't be watching kids
I didn’t know that there’s some school where they control and see what your doing on you personal devices I’m shocked I already feel uncomfortable been watched on my school chrome book and now they want to control our personal devices? I’m really lucky that my school can’t control my devices just thinking about the idea of them controlling my personal devices is a nightmare and I hope that nightmare doesn’t come true for me
I’m scared-
Will I be ok if I don’t connect to their wifi on my phone and just use my data?
The still could be a possibility of personal boundaries loss
to me i think it should be limited to teacher's looking at what we do in irl class, like looking over ur computer, but digging deep into shit is a nono
Only they are watching on computers?
My school has security cameras everyone in the halls. I don’t mind, since they used it to bust someone who was harassing me, because he broke into my bathroom stall and stared at me.
Also can the school see what i do if i use incontigo on my phone at home
If it’s your phone and not the district’s device, they can’t see you at all unless you have their website open, if it is Irl school then they can only see what you’re doing when you are at school.
so your saying schools arent just taking away my cyber life (aka literally my life) but MONITORING IT TO?
if its a school device then fine but, If its a school Email on a personal device, Then no, thats none of the schools business
What if ur in a different account though
Me who has screen time, bark,and securly
(Screen time on and bark on my iPad, and bark and securly on my school email I think
They use jailbreaking
Wait what if you were using your intent or share info call they still see your prunsl phone😳
Remember you have all rights to delete any software from your personal computer
Does this topic include personal accounts made by students
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!!!!
I hate the screen watching programs
They can see what you see on UA-cam?!
So they can see your online activity outside the school network too? Messed up lolll im getting a vpn
me casually open incog
They should be able to watch stuff but like not to the point where they have access over EVERYTHING DAMN THING YOU DO AND LITERALLY CONTROL AND MANIPULATE YOUR ACTIONS.
I live in japan schools dont Have surveillance but in the computer room if a student isnt studying the Teacher hacks into the computer and every vacation they say
Limit time on tv or internet or video games
i hope your teacher gets arrested for life
Why are you saying thAt??
What’s the chilling effect ?
Here's the thing. Just use your own personal pc to do anything you want private. Not school issuesed pc.
Why did this guy have to make it racial when it’s not racial?
this is completely invading our privacy.
Wait… doesn't the security software scare kids and make them want to commit self-harm?
Did you know that if you add YOUR personal account to a school computer, they can get control over it? Of course this ended in 2018 but this was hilarious and illegal
1984 is becoming reality
Can schoops moniter me like if i use my personal laptop and use my personal email.
Ayo -Raxan=) only if you download an app
I'm kinda scared for my life rn...I was on a anime website and ofc yk those ads that you don't even click on but it takes you to a h3nt@i page or sum? Yeah my clumsy hands clicked the screen and ofc it said "sorry, you have been BLOCKED." The scary thing is, when you're on an "inappropriate" website it gets flagged and the school district can see what you were trying to do...normally they would call the teacher's class you're in but...since I'm at home....would they call my parents instead???!!!!!! I'm as good as dead. What makes it worse is that I have Mexican parents. How do I explain I was trying to watch Attack on Titan and it took me to a bad website? Nobody would believe me. RIP me :D
Thank god
When does that mean they saw me getting builled and did nothing about it i literary still have those scars on my hair oh
is nothing bad the bully just use her nails ulgy nails to gove scars to my hand
Does this apply to me, a Canadian citizen?
Sadly yes
Can they hear your audio
Someone in my school searched up ph. 💀
lmaoo you look like OBJ
*Creepy weird Story*
*Besure to read it and help me find out whats going on here*
Idk if my school teachers are tracking my phone bc I do my homework with the help of my phone and I also open youtube in my phone in split screen while doing my homework. And last week I went to my professor to handover my homework and after handing the homework to him he said that I want to talk about something important and he asked me that do watch youtube on my phone on split screen and do my homework with the help of my phone? I was so surprised I couldnt say anything he asked me once again but I was still slient then he said that Ik you do that. I still was so surprised and I started to panic bc he also told me how much I used my phone and how much time I use each app, I was very creeped out but then my blood pressure started to go low bc I get very anxious easily but I had to control myself then I went to my principle's office to discuss her about how my Chemistry Teacher wasnt teaching us well and she also said that same thing what my professor told me. I am super creeped out it feels like someone is watching me
I feel like that should be illegal but I’m not completely sure. It’s so creepy how school can track your personal device!! I do the same thing as you I use UA-cam to help me with my school work and my parents don’t think anything is wrong with it. So I would maybe talk to your parents about it or whoever raises you.
rampage them now go on a rampage
1:43, instead of throwing more money to their safety problem and trying to cure the symptoms, maybe they should throw more money at their mental health crisis and wellness programs and treat the problem from the root.
Of course this doesn’t mean security shouldn’t be invested in, but in my opinion they are throwing their money in the wrong place.
anybody else watch youtube while online schooling
NO THEY SHOULDN'T!
my search history is carcass cookie clicker and fish and last time typed i know your watching me and madness combat and clay world hope i dont get into trouble
Im on a school laptop rn lol
Schools shud not be online
On my schools websitr its not secure and Its using my camera thanks for putting a virus on my computer
That sucks
Invasion of privacy
i searched something on tiktok -.-
if that means they're monitoring my personal accounts and every website i visit on my personal gaming pc, well, lets just say something really really bad is gonna happen to them from me for now im gonna make 10 fake accounts for each website, use vpns and antiviruses every day
schools should not spy because it could make students feel watched and not free.
I hate school so much.
Can’t play on my iPhone for 7 hours. Every game on Crome books are blocked. (Those games helped me be sane)
I need a break dummies.
I could go on and on about why I hate school.
pull a no russian all you need is a gun