How to Teach Your Dog to Indicate on The Odor! Episode 6
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2020
- Welcome to the sixth episode in my scent detection dog training series.
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In this series, I will be teaching my Malinois, Arih, Scent Detection. I'll break down each step in a format that is easy to understand, but more importantly, easy to implement.
In episode six, I will be explaining and demonstrating how to easily teach your dog an indication. This is a clear behavior that the dog will perform the let the handle know that the dog has found the odor.
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The fact you are kind enough to teach all this for free is amazing. I appreciate you taking all this time! It made me want to support you more, so I just ordered your book!
Awesome! Thank you so much! :)
Nate, you are the best! ❤thank you very much!
THANK YOU ! Love all the great yet easy ideas !!
great video and greatto series. i started work with my pup on scent detection and really had a hard time understanding how to get her to indicate. your video helped a lot along with the previous
Well made, clear video!! Thanks for showing the process and allowing us to see her fumble a bit and then get it.
Thanks for this video Nate! Really easy to implement. and I also saw the video weeks ago on home made scent detection tube that you posted. The materials seem to be easy to find in my town. Keep it up!
Thanks, Allan! I'm happy the videos are helping and thank you for supporting my channel. 😁🙏🐶🐕
I love you videos man, they short, educational, and Awesome. Thank you very much uploading. I'm learning at the moment but when I get a dog I'll probably be ready because of these videos.
Awesome! Thank you for watching and commenting! :)
I’ve only been watching for a couple of days but I’m loving it
Thanks, Charlie! I appreciate that! :)
Enjoying the series! This is a great way to exercise and to get your dog thinking, really fun to watch! You're doing a great job explaining each step👏 Looks like you two are having a lot of fun with the scent detection exercise!🤩 And Ari is sooo cute!😍 Work that brain doggie!
Thank you so much! :)
Thanks so much for doing this video. Can't wait to work on this. I also watched with my reactive GSD and haven't been able to watch dogs on TV without him barking and lunging for the TV. While he did bark and got amped up, I was able get him in a down, watch you and Arih while I plied him with treats. Will keep proofing that until he gets desenstized to seeing dogs and TV and no longer reacts.
Awesome! Sounds like he is on the right track. Nice work! :)
Thanks a lot for sharing this.
My pleasure and thanks for watching! :)
This is great! Thanks!
Thanks, Jackie! :)
thanks very informative
you are the master .. thank you
Thanks, Adam! 😁🙏🐶🐕
Hello Nate ,you are doing an amazing job with your videos and with dogs!I wish you were here,in Greece ,to train my father 's Malinoi and to help me out to understand and communicate more with them!You are the best trainer i have ever seen before,so polite,kind and happy!!
Thank you so much, Lydia! I really appreciate that! 😁🙏🐶🐕
Excellent.
Thanks for the tutorial! I found it very useful! What these blocks are made of?
I absolutely love your videos! I'm in France, training my 10 months old Staffy with your technics especially for scent detection and we enjoy it a lot. Thank you very much !
Awesome! Thanks for sharing and I'm happy you're enjoying the videos. :)
Training Staffords also
very informative
Very useful video again. I appreciate you telling the science behind markers and timings, I can adapt the same technique to the commands that I already taught my dog, but wanna reshape.
Cheers!
My pleasure! :)
Just starting some nose work with my 1 year old labradoodle! Thanks!
Love it my dog searches but didn’t alert good thanks
Excellent🐕👍
Awesome series! Greetings from Argentina! :D
Thanks! I'm happy you like them! 😁🙏🐶🐕
Love these vids
Thanks, Charlie! :)
Nate Schoemer thanks for quick reply 😄
Phenomenal video as always nate, I love this scent detection series. I've got a few unrelated questions, I noticed on your website that you're based in LA, given that its the movie making capital of the world have you ever trained a dog for an acting role in a movie, like for ex Marley's dog actor in Marley and Me? Would you ever be interested in doing so? Or (probably shoulda leaded with this question) do dog trainers that specify in training acting dogs even exist??😂 It would be super cool to see a series on that I imagine it would be pretty difficult to train a dog to pretend to be bad, while actors are all screaming at the dog not to do the behavior they're actually supposed to do for the role.
Thanks, Lapidus! Arih has been in a commercial before and I had a show on Animal Planet called Rescue Dog to Super Dog. Besides that, I haven't done anything else for film. 😁🐶🐕
Hiya Nate! First off... thank you SO much for all these super helpful videos. It's so unbelievably kind you shoot and post so many of these for free. Thank you thank you! But I do have training question. How many days should we be training each section before we move on to the next? And also, how can I best get my dog to do a down stay? For my Mal I always have to tell her stay, which I was told is redundant by another trainer. I've tried to get her to down stay without saying "stay" but she just won't. And when I do tell her stay she'll stay for a while... but then break command after 5 or so minutes.
Thank you again for all your videos!!!!
Thanks! Work on each step until the dog is proficient, then move onto the next step. If you feel you've progressed too quickly, then go back a step. :)
Stay command. ua-cam.com/video/s5iD8eN89bo/v-deo.html
Nate, great video again.
Can i ask you what would you suggest to use or to do to let him know that i don't want that behaviour to reoccur.
I know that you utilize the leash pressure, but what can i use instead of this, too?
Here is a video I put together on adding corrections using either a martingale collar or pinch collar: facebook.com/nathan.schoemer/videos/10213850487672790/
For additional support, I would suggest joining my Facebook UA-cam community group. This is a group of people that have studied my training philosophies and principles. This is a location to discuss your dog training goals and endeavors with other like-minded people. To help support the group, I will be doing live Q&A’s every few days or so. Here is the group link: facebook.com/groups/NateSchoemers
Lastly, if you are unable to get the results that you need using reward-based training techniques, then you may need to use corrections. Remember, everything our dogs do is based on motivation. They are either motivated to access something pleasant or motivated to prevent something unpleasant. Whichever factor is the most motivating will determine the dog's behavior. If you feel you need to add corrections in your training, here are some online resources that will teach you how to do it correctly to maximize your results:
Here is an online course that will teach you how to correctly use a remote training collar:
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Please keep making more videos. I have been obsessed with research for dogs for the past year sense one was left at my door steps. I live in a shady neighborhood, and I thought it best to start her on guard dog training, (I know that was wrong) the man who gave me the puppy gave me barbaric advice that through her first twelve weeks I'd smack her butt, rub her nose in her own potty, and even holding the puppy down and biting her ear.. after seeing no results (after her primal learning age) I started research. She barely trusts me but prefers my gf (due to my dumbass trust in the advice I was given) this is my first dog I've ever had being my responsibility. I understand I have messed her up, she exhibits signs of abuse every day and it breaks my heart. When we first got her I slept on the floor next to her crate. This dog is my whole life. I know I messed her up, but I'm also the only one who trains her (only positively) it's just the crucial moments of her life, I know in the dog world, was abused, and it kills me every day. The reason we have our dog at all is because my buddy came over, (acted suspicious) and pulled a puppy out from under his jacket. Said he couldnt keep her (we both live in an apt complex) because he had very young son with another on his way with his gf living in a one bedroom apt. He gave her to me because he said he'd never get an extra room for their family once they find out they had another dog (they had gotten rid of two for the same reason).
It's just with the advice I was given I didn't feel the need to research.
So far, I have been doing behavioral as well as training (which is how I found you) every single day for the past 11+ months.
I am passionate about dogs and it's the only thing I've ever been able to keep an interest with. They deserve more than .. oh I dont want him anymore he does this (without even trying to distract that behavior with another) too many end up in garbage bags and at the end of the day, that's what we see from shelters.. 50 a day minimum from every shelter you've ever heard from (apart from no kills which are incredible but stop excepting pups once they're full then ppl abandon them on the side of the road) I want to be able to learn their behaviors, study it, and do something about a dog being jailed for christmas..
If I'm able to help my dog, I will help every dog I get the chance to.
I only have a years experience and a 1000 hours of research.
Where did you learn? Can you help me?..
Hi, Jordan. Thanks for your comment and for supporting my channel. I learned to become a dog trainer by attending the Tom Rose School for professional dog trainers. It's a very challenging course, but well worth it, if you're willing to put in the time. The next class will be starting in April 2021. There's a good chance that I may be one of the instructors for that course. If so, I hope to see you there! :)
When teaching scent work I am having a difficult time teaching the search command without her picking up the object. Any advice?
Great channel. You're the best!
Try marking before she picks up the item. If she picks up the item you can also use a non-reinforcement marker. I discuss this is version 3 of my dog training manual that you can get free for the next 5 days: amzn.to/2P2tyQH
Sir , speak , free 👌👍
Will this work as indicator of finding the item?
Thaaanks nate
Thanks! Yes, you can use this to find an item, but I have a training process that is specifically for finding lost items. I'll be posting those sometime in the future. 😁🙏🐶🐕
He go good man
Thanks!
Great Video. I use speak instead of down. I teach some hunting dogs and the owners want the dog to bark when they find the prey.
Awesome!
Good job man ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Thank you very much! Cheers!
@@NateSchoemer very good trainer ❤️
@@NateSchoemer sir I wanna know how much time need for obedience per one day... And how many times need to teach dog for biting per one day?
So cool
I have two HRD K9'S and now teaching a pup for a third K9. I use a down and bark for my alert since the dog may not always be in site when searching off leash. How do you implement the bark with the down alert?
I just found this. Really excited to teach my dog. I don’t quite understand the first bit about putting the tennis balls in a container with an odor. Why not just put the odor on the balls. And what do you use for odors? Something like essential oils or some kind of meat or what. Thanks.
I was using lavender, but you can also buy scent kits online for nose work training. If you use any oils, just use one drop and don't put it in a location where the dog can lick the actual oil. Use a container with a cotton ball for the odor. If you want to put the odor on a toy, then put one drop on the inside of a lidded container and keep the toy in the container overnight. This way the toy will hold the odor, but the oil won't be directly on the toy. I hope this helps! Cheers!
Hi
What kind of odour are you using?
Is there something of your scent inside the box?
,Nate very good fist guy I understand
Lol I don’t know who gets happier you or your disciple at hand 🐈..that’s pretty good work🤓there Nate!!!
I concur, and I got happy watching as well. You’re spreading the happiness Nate❣️
Lol! Thanks! Who doesn't love hanging out with dogs all day?!?!?! 😁🐶🐕
Hey Nate, my girlfriend and I are watching all your videos to prepare for our German shepherd puppy in 3 weeks. I assume things should be trained in order of the Basic Obedience playlist (followed by Advanced playlist), but were not sure how much time we should be dedicating to building a good foundation and to each command. For example, when should I move on from engagement training, or is it something I do consistently all the time?
Thanks, Chafik! I will usually do engagement training for the first day or so. Before every session after that, I will spend 15-30 seconds doing engagement training to get the puppy in the right mindset to train. Then I start shaping all the commands I would like the puppy to perform with the physical cue (luring, leash pressure, fixed shaping, and free shaping). once I know I can get the puppy to do the behavior with the physical cue, then I name the command. Lastly, I use the leash pressure to reinforce behaviors. The time all of this takes will depend on the dog and the trainer. Don't stress yourself out by assuming the puppy should learn at a certain speed. Just work at the speed the puppy is learning. I recommend training your dog throughout the dog's entire life. I try to get in at least one obedience session with my dogs each day. It helps develop an incredibly strong bond and it also helps keep the dog mentally stimulated, which is very important when it comes to having a balanced dog. I hope all this helps and thanks for supporting the channel. 😁🙏🐶🐕
It looks like your dog is downing at every block. Are you just reinforcing at the odor and the other downs will go away over time?
Also what is the advantage/disadvantage of sit v down for an indicator?
Thanks
Two questions... How important is the platform "climb" to this exercise? Do I need to build one or can I use a mat? Second question - You talked about "imprinting" very young dogs for future success. Can you elaborate?
Nate, waiting for a training session on training the GSD as a protection dog.....
Yes, I will be creating a protection series in the near future. 😁🐶🐕
Just figured I'd point out if the command you are doing is speak, it would be a good idea to add an extra step at the end that works on durations of the speak and keeping them barking until you get there.
Thanks for sharing!
Not being in law enforcement, what scents can you use for this?
Great channel sir. I know this question is out of sorts for this video, but I hope you can help anyway. Once you have shown your dog the desired behavior (by "yes" and "free", at what point do you introduce the command, such as sit? Thank you.
Once I know I can get the dog or puppy to do the behavior the way that I like with the physical cue. ua-cam.com/video/3aE6QP3ilKw/v-deo.html 😁🐶🐕
@@NateSchoemer Thank you
Hi Nate, thanks for the great videos. My GSP sometimes tries to "guess" and indicates on the wrong box (no residual etc). By moving them around I think hes trying to guess which one it's in sometimes. But then gets up to try the next. I do not reward him. But when he does get it and he knows hes got it, he wont move until "free". Is it your suggestion that we just pull away from the search and start again?
I think I found my answer in your free search video (next episode), but would still love to hear your thoughts.
Yes, I don't reward when they guess wrong. As your dog understands the game more and becomes more confident, then he won't guess as much. With enough reps, he'll stop guessing, because he'll be more confident in the exercise.
@@NateSchoemer exactly what I did and yesterday he had one false indication on a set of 4 tubes for the entire session. Thanks again mate from all the way over is Australia! :)
Do you have pieces of cardboard attached to the bottoms of the blocks?
What food do you use for training? I dont want to many calories, but ibwant a high value treat, but not chicken. My dog is allergic to chicken.
Ikr, I want to know how they teach the dog how to know to do that.
Thanks for watching!
5:12 I see, smart.
Thanks!
12:24 Nice.
Thank you!
9:59 I see, smart.
Thanks, Joshua!
I have a question with training medical alert scent. Would the indication be come to me and do a nose press. I understand the down and the sit indication. I am not clear how I would make the nose press alert on my body work. Should the dog do the nose press to the center block, can, box, and then put the scent tin in my pocket and transfer the nose press to my body later?
Please explain in detail
To train your dog to use a nose press as an indication, start by teaching them this specific behavior. You can use a targeting stick or sticky pads to guide them. Once they've mastered the nose press, introduce the odor you want them to find. After the dog detects the odor, prompt them to perform the nose press just like I demonstrated in the video. Dogs excel at recognizing patterns, so over time, they will learn to associate the scent with the action of performing the nose press.
what is the release word? “free”? why is they word used?
What kind of odors do you use for training?
You can order scent kits online. I was just using lavender oil. A few drops on the inside of the container is all it takes. Cheers!
What sport/organization is this style of odor detection training for? When I looked up akc scent work trials they seem to use closed boxes. Idk about the other organizations. I'm trying to figure out what to aim for with my dog as far as trialing and titling goes
This is how I like to teach it. You can use whatever items that are used in the specific sport you would like to train for. It's always advisable to look up the rules for your sport of interest as well. Cheers! :)
@@NateSchoemer do you do it for a specific sport or organization?
@@NateSchoemer thanks for responding!
Nate, did you stop the service dog training series? I started watching that this week and saw there was only 2 videos in the playlist.
I had more that I was going to do with Harley, but the owner was happy with her current level of training and decided to take her home. I will be posting more in this series, but that may not be for a few months. Thanks for the question and for supporting the channel! 😁🙏🐶🐕
Nate Schoemer
You have at least two of us on your Facebook group who are training their on service animals. Maybe there’s some way that we could participate in your service animal training series?
@@NateSchoemer oh no! I was looking forward to these as well!
@@AnnainAwe My Ruby is going to be my service dog. She already does several tasks for me she just learning to be more calm in public places.
@@NateSchoemer we are waiting
Thanks for your video.
Question: if a "bookmark" with an odor is at a height of 1-2 m, how will the dog show the source of the odor if it is trained to lie down? A similar question: how will a dog show if the odor is in a pile of piles or on the ceiling of a car? Thank you.
Thanks. You can make the indication whatever you like it to be. :)
@@NateSchoemer Thank you.
Hi Nate, what happens if someone else puts the odor in one of the containers, and you don't know witchone? By telling Arih to down next to the right container she knows where it is. Or if the odor was in two (Or more ) containers. Or is that a next step? Thanks a lot for all your video's!! Love, jb
I wouldn't have someone else hide the odor until I know Arih is proficient at the training. Also, I would have the person there to confirm it is the correct location before I rewarded the dog. I'm telling her to down in this video, but over time the dog learns the process and will indicate without the added help. Thanks for supporting the channel! 😁🙏🐶🐕
Enjoy all of the videos!!
I have a Poogle which is half poodle and BEAGLE . How do I redirect her to come back to her platform ?
I've tried kong balls peanut,bacon, cheese .
Toys etc. She is only 14 mo old and has been in training at 4 mo and doing great . I have to let her sniff due to her breed but she also has to obey formal commands. She is good your scent videos and doing great!
7:18 Ha, funny, cute.
Thanks again!
Nate how many reps approx are you doing each step per day.
Depends on the dog. I progress at the speed the dog is learning at. :)
That dog want that treat
How did you get the dog to know to bark to let you know she found the scent
Same way I teach her to down as an indication. First you have to teach your dog to bark on command. Once you do that, then ask your dog to bark when getting to the odor. :) ua-cam.com/video/HeVWMcwbf1w/v-deo.html
Nate how can i teach my dog to play fetch if he is not so much interested in the ball?
Jump to 01:14:55 in this video: ua-cam.com/video/3lBJFcWiAzk/v-deo.html
Nate. I’d like to train my dog to be a protector like a police dog but not to worry about him being too aggressive. Can a dog learn to be a protector as well as a living service dog?
You can, but most professionals would advise against it. It's just too much of a risk or liability to do protection training with a service dog. However, if you want to do protection training with your dog. Then I would suggest joining a protection club. You can find local clubs with the links below. Cheers!
You can find protection clubs with the links below.
French Ring Protection Sport: www.ringsport.org/index.php?pg=clubs
IPO Protection Sport: www.germanshepherddog.com/events-new/
Protection Sport Association: psak9-as.org/psa-affiliated-club-list/
Mondioring Protection Sport: www.usmondioring.org/clubs/
Nate, have you yet answered the question of what scent you have chosen in your training process?
Is the FIRST scent chosen for training important?
If so, why?
I'm just training Arih on scent detection for fun and the videos, so I'm using lavender. If I was to train her to be a drug dog, then I would have started on a drug odor. Since Arih is not a working dog, then it's not an issue. If I was training a working dog, then I would only be teaching the odor that the dog will be required to find while working. 😁🐶🐕
do you always use the same othor ?
You can teach one odor in the beginning and add new odors later or you can do the cocktail method. This is when you teach the dog all the odors together.
Is the fact that she is trying to lie down for all of the boxs before she gets to the one you want them to?
1:53 Funny it down every now
Subscribed. Very rare for me to subscribe to a channel.
Thanks, I appreciate that!
I'm just curious, your dog has a strange bark,Is she ok?
It's just the audio. It's cheap audio equipment that I plan on upgrading soon. 😁🐶🐕
@@NateSchoemer that's grand, was just curious if she had a throat issue
Easier because the dog see where you are putting it at.
Yes, you can let the dog see at first and then don't allow them to see later. Depends on where you are in the training. :)
man you should open a dog training school.
Thanks, Stevie! I appreciate that. Maybe it'll be something I do in the future. :)
Even though you marked "free" to tell us useful information, she knew that you were not communicating with her because she did not move. She looked at you though
You're correct, but I felt bad that she perked up and I didn't give her a treat. However, I did give her a treat when I noticed the mistake while editing. Lol!
Chief is used to this now because of training Rio around him. If I'm not looking at him he knows it's not for him.
This could be a problem if I'm communicating to him and do not have eye contact.
Thus the use of their names combined with marking sometimes. I'm not sure how that is going, I'll let you know in the future. 😉
I’ve watched a couple of UA-cam channels where they work with multiple dogs in the room, yet work one dog at a time. Clearly the dogs can discern if they’re being spoken to, with a little bit of practice.
Nate, I think it’s cute that you felt guilty.
@@NateSchoemer Lol, ha.
Better than Zak George.
Thank you, Joshua!
Dear Nate I just wanted you to get some feedback from another person using your videos to teach their dog. I have a 3 year yellow lab and he is my partner for work. I am on numerous taskforces as well as a Det. Sgt. in my local Sheriff's Office in Ohio. I am an investigator for only crimes against children, I am part of the FBI violent crimes against child as well as Internet Crimes Against Children taskforces in Ohio. My dog is already trained to assist whenever a child has been through a traumatic event in their lives. He can open doors, get toys, turn on lights as well as get tissues if the child is crying, ect. So he and I have taken on learning scent detection for digital devices such as flash drives , SD cards and any other devices that can store child pornography. I wanted to know that we have watched and learned a lot from these videos and he has been doing very well. We have only been doing this for two weeks but it seem like he has picked it up fast. Thank you again!
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing and I'm happy the training videos are helping! :)
Good video, however you're cueing your dog to indicate. Each time she gets to the "hot hole" you're dropping the lead which could easily tell the dog "oh this is where I get paid".
True, that could be considered handler help. Good eye! :)
@@NateSchoemer I'm a first time Police K9 handler with a crazy high drive lab. Trust me im struggling with many things myself as I'm new to this. I apologize if I came across wrong by pointing that out.
I think it’s too fast