The Perfect Watch To Start Anyones Collection : Citizen Promaster Automatic
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- I love it when certain watches seem to hit the right notes in their price range.
They, might not have all the bells and whistle or offer the latest and greatest movements, however they seem to have designed beautifully and with proper form and function.
This Citizen Promaster NY0085-19E is a personal favourite of mine, so I purchased one for myself
cheers
Peter
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According to Hodinkee, Citizen outsells Seiko by roughly $15 billion. The watch community may favor Seiko, however the general public is Citizen's.
Wow
I didn’t know that
Thanks for sharing 👍
Citizen makes better watches than seiko these days
Watching this, while wearing mine.. I have mine for 2 years now. But I am still amaze, everytime i wear it.. It's really a fantastic watch, and not so expensive. ⌚😎
Take notice Seiko, this is how it is done. A great automatic with a great movement for an attractive price!
Thanks for the review! Stunning watch, by the way!
I received mine 4 days ago and I can't stop wearing and staring at this promaster. I have equal if not more joy looking at this piece than my black bay 58 blue.
Its such a great deep gloss black..ENJOY IT !!
The Coke on a red strap would look wonderful. I’m not sure about Citizen being un-noticed…they sell more watches than Seiko every year. Love that watch. Nice purchase.
I just bought one of these for $219 AUD and received it yesterday. It is absolutely fantastic and, in my uneducated opinion, eats equivalent (except price) Seiko's for breakfast.
It is now proudly nestled with my prized Duros in my collection 👍🤩
Got mine in a Pepsi from Starbuy last week. It was on special for AUD199. The stainless steel bracelet was comfortable but cheap looking. Replaced with an FKM type strap.
Now, for the surprise. The dial said "8203 Movement". The case back said "8204". The new models have the 8204 movement - hacking and winding. Leaves the SKX for dead. Looks good and has great wrist presence. At this time, it's running at +5.5spd.
Great score..👍👍
I too purchased the exact same watch after watching this video last year and put on a similar rubber band with ‘port holes’. It also has 8203 on dial and 8204 on case! SWEET! Sorry Pete that yours is earlier version, still a gorgeous watch no matter what…cheers!
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The old 8203 is rated at a higher accuracy than the new 8204.
I will never dive with a Swiss watch, but my citizen is made for the sea. Great practical lum. I logged over 300 deep dives with my citizen exceeding 150ft. Never an issue.
Just purchased one, I'm absolutely in love with it.. Mine has the 8204 hacking movement.
Excellent value
All the watch anyone would need and it looks great too. I can see why you couldn't resist!
Correct
Beautiful! I am a Seiko fanboy, but I own three Citizens. In contrast to Seiko, I can honestly say that Citizen’s QC is perfect. Moreover, on my Eco-Dive models, the seconds hand hits the indexes perfectly. My wife’s daily Eco-Drive has been going for more than twenty years, without a service. There is so mush to like here. Thanks for the review, Peter.
20 years ? Im confused because i read eco drives last 10 years. I have a promaster..great watch
20 years without a service....wow! That's a hell of a watch. Congratulations........Cheers
@@michaelhargis7036 : Absolutely. I would have expected to replace the solar battery after 10 years, but still working perfectly.
Good to hear. Got an Eco-drive Diver last year and absolutely loving it - on wrist accuracy of 0.5 sec per month (E168 mvt). Remarkable for the price of £180 or around $220 USD.
@@dazjackson1972 Excellent! There is really no need to buy anything else… if you can resist the addiction. 🤪
Just purchased and received mine! Looks like it now comes with the 8204 movement as mine hacks as well. Beautiful watch and excellent dimensions.
Sam, you're a lucky man, you got an upgrade...👍😎
Citizen makes the best quality for the money hands down
Orient as well
@@Joniyah444 seiko as well
@@edrader yes they used to, many are leaving seiko for orient, citizen, Casio etc. for what you get it’s less and less with seiko
@@Joniyah444 225 citizen without a sapphire xtal is not a great deal
@Seikopath that and the kamasu. Sapphire glass at $199 last week. Even though I love seikos I’m expanding even to squale, steinhart etc
Citizen seems to be under rated.They make very accurate watches, I love my GMT dive rated titanium Promaster,+2seconds a day right out off the box.Sappire crystal and very comfortable, magnified date,coin edge bezel.
I don't think they're underrated, they're just mostly 44mm, even 46mm apparently since oversized watches are still selling in Asia.
They make a lot of real cheap stuff so that tarnishes the brand.
@@aussie8114 They really don't. They make a few sub-$100 pieces that are great for the money.
+ 2sec a day for a quartz is abysmal, are you sure?
I love the Promaster NY00XX series. I have the full lume dial, but all are real stunners. The Citizen strap will break in after a while.
Just a fun fact, the Italian Marines used this Promaster for a while and it’s ISO certified. It’s 200m water resistance but it can go till 500m.
Perfect review again, Peter!
Wow 500m that’s pretty impressive
Thanks for sharing Julian
Cheers
I bought the Pepsi version in 2023. My model hacks and I love the look and how this watch feels on my wrist. I have several straps to change out with my wardrobe
This is one of the best watch reviews I’ve seen on UA-cam. Great production quality. Beautiful watch. Keep up the awesome reviews.
cheers
I feel the same about it as you do. Just good looking on any strap
This watch is stunning, I always enjoy looking at it. The build quality and black dial are striking. Some people complain about the bracelet but I found it superb especially with quick extension feature.
Agreed,it's way more comfortable than people give it credit for
ditto on the bracelet
Thanks Peter, just bought this watch from Star Buy today for AU $269. Very happy!
Bravo
Enjoy 😊
My coke watch arrived today, very surprised to find it has the 8204 movement instead of the 8203! Yes... it has hacking 🙂
Beautiful watch. Simple, minimalist with a fair price. Best companion for diving or hot beach days. Thanks for the video.
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Peter, while so many reviewers focus on the specs of watches, you are one of the few who talk about what really draws us in: the aesthetics. I wonder if after a year you still feel the same about this watch.
I fell for the NY0040 a while back after catching a view of it at an angle on someone’s wrist. I ended up purchasing both the black and fully lumed versions. I tried these on my wrist next to the NY0085 “coke” you reviewed here and it’s hard to overstate the effect that the subtle differences made. The NY0040 and NY0085 are essentially the same watch. The only differences are in the color of the lume, the font size & color on the bezel, and some minor differences in the text on the dial. While the black NY0040 felt more rugged (probably due to the larger font), the NY0085 felt a bit more refined. The lume on the NY0040 has a greenish hue that pushes strap choices toward olive and black; and who can say why a shark mesh bracelet looks so beautiful (IMO) on the fully lumed NY0040?
This video has me longing for that NY0085 I let go of back then. You’ve just about pushed me over the edge towards another purchase! Two thumbs up on that engineer’s bracelet pairing. Keep up the good work. Your love for the hobby comes through in your presentation.
Agreed, this review is focused more on the emotional response and that feeling in the belly when you see a watch, and less on the specs.
After all, isn't that what this hobby is really all about?
Wow! I Have this one Promaster dive watch 10yrs. up to now it working nice
One of the best review I ever watched. I appreciate your honest opinion and I agree on the value of Citizen watches.
Thank you Paolo 🙏
Looks great in Coke. . . I never cared a whole lot for the other colors of this one, but Coke really works for me. Good stuff you got.
Simply beautiful diver watch
this for me is one of the best if not the best budget certified diver, both mechanical and eco drive movement. i've got the blue one and i love and regularly keep in rotation on my wrist
Any channel who appreciates the value of a Citizen watch deserves to be subscribed to. Very good and honest review sir, +1 subscriber! Citizen is really underrated and it's too bad because they have very well built and reliable watches. They also invest a lot in technology and their quality control is top notch. Still, not many reviewers appreciate them...
Thank you Eris
I think Citizen definitely deserves more love. Beautifully engineered and great pricing too
Cheers mate
Totalmente de acuerdo con tu comentario citizette da mucho por poco y eso se agradece 👍
Your video nudged me over the edge to purchase this watch. And I also heeded your suggestion to swap in the black Borealis strap. Absolutely love both! Thanks for the quality video.
I got the blue dial NY0040 last summer. The perfect collection starter. Wears great and is just quirky enough to be different from the hundreds of SKX clones.
Agree on your statements. I have the full lume dial!
I have had a Citizen ny0040 on my wish list for a couple of years. That list has changed many times with that model not being removed. You have me going back and shuffling my buying plans. Good review Peter.
Thanks Chris. I think these are a must, really cannot go wrong
Happy to see that a watch reviewer is giving Citizen watch some love. Even though the watch have a mineral cristal I have to say they are pretty scratch resistance
Love the left hand crown, won’t dig into my skin like the right hand crown. Thanks for such an excellent review 🙌🏽
I bought one recently with a Pepsi bezel. Got it for $170. Killer price and a great dive watch. Good size too. Wears like a 40mm.
I have the blue ny0040, every time I look in the dial especially in the sun it puts me in a trance wow
Fairly late to the Kotsa party, but am really enjoying the content. Quality of camera work probably reflects your profession, but what really makes your reviews so enjoyable is your clear passion for the hobby, whether reviewing a Citizen or a Rolex is always entertaining. Reminds me of the Urban Gentry. Lots of effort and time mate but keep em coming!
Thanks David, I enjoy hobby and watches are like an addiction :)
You’re very right it’s just beautiful
I'm lefthanded, and this is a great affordable watch for us lefties who want something that suits us. I wish there were more lefty watches.
I have NY-0040 (all black) and it is my daily driver last 8 month's. It holds +/- 3 sec/day but mostly better than that. Bought a Borealis Boavista strap when I saw yours review of strap. Great combination.
I bought one for my nephew. When the watch arrived I liked it so much, I decided to order one for myself. It’s a beautiful diver 😂
Just pulled the trigger on one. Thank you Peter for a great review.
Enjoy it !!!
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Beautiful! Matches with your logo.
Thanks 🙏
Wonderful review! Citizen watches started my watch collecting journey and I've had (and still have) several. I agree, some of their offerings don't get the love they deserve. This is a great diver, the quartz variant is solid as well (I have one - certified diver and built like a tank!). Thanks so much and great, if unplanned, addition to the collection!
Definitely unplanned 👍
Is it true that the eco - drive system only last 10 years thou ?. I own several seiko and orients and 1 promaster citizen. I was gonna get some more promasters but then i read about the 10 year breakdown..
@@RM-pg4js I guess mileage can vary, but I have a 16 year old EcoDrive that is going strong. Another EcoDrive did get a new battery but that was only because I had the scratched crystal replaced also - so had them replace it when it was in the shop. It was 14 years old at the time. All watches will need maintenance at some point or another.
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G'day Pete.thanks for the reply. Even if you come across another s wave please let me know.
Grunt watches are an Aussie company great watches very well priced 5 years warranty. Never seen a video on u tube about them.same with bering watches, I think they are Scandinavian.i have 2 of them have a look at there websites if u like the look of them I would happily lend them to the channel for review. They are quartz though.
Regards mal jones
@@dvsrn1 so when the eco drive system stop i can just replace a battery and it will keep working for more years Sr ? Thats what you saying Sr ? I love ProMasters..
I really wanted the Coke version. But my son convince me to go Pepsi just because I have NO blues dial watches. In the USA, you almost HAVE to buy Eco-Drive. I wanted Automatic, and Left Handed screw down. My last Citizen diver I bought was 12 years ago, and I just had to have a new capacitor put in it. Now its good for another 12 years. Citizen Promaster with Minotaur drives are awesome. I was tempted to order FUGU… but, maybe on our next trip to Asia. Nice watch…congrats.
Citizen is underrated, that’s for sure
Agree, did not know they made automatic divers at that pricerange, maybe Christmas will come early this year 🎅🎁🐿
I wouldn't agree. It's perfectly on spot with price and quality. Other watch brands and specific watches are waaay overrated.
Something I've always enjoyed seeing in Citizen dive watches is how deep the dial sits. The Chapter ring has a really steep angle.
Nice one Peter! Very nice watch, that dash of red on the bezel is a nice touch..
Cheers
To start and one that could last you a lifetime too. I love mine more than anything acquired even after
Only 200us in Hong Kong on rubber, 250 steel. Agree citizen very underrated
Agree. Handsome timepiece for its price.
I bought this watch about 6 months ago and I love it! It's my first dive watch and so glad I stumbled on it looking mostly at the new seiko 5kx line
Glad you enjoy it! 👌
I have this watch along with Tudor BB58, Grand Seiko, Hamilton, and Tag Heuer. Great for any collections. Great beater for $178.00 USD.
This is a beautiful watch mate, bang for buck - it looks amazing. Such a solid, reliable looking diver. Another top review once again legend. Enjoy it! Might have to buy one.
Hey Hi Peter, Awesome review and agree this watch is amazing value and looks perfect!... The Wow factor if you will....It's funny how the mind works we can see something and wrestle within sometimes... do we really like it or is it worth the money, etc...These days for me it's about the "Wow factor" and not having to rationalize more than what is logical or wise...Bang!! it hits you and this watch does as a piece of Creative Art!... Cheers Brother be safe and well and thank you!!!... Ciao!
My father bought one of the first Citizen echo drive watches. He took it all around the world, from the jungles of South America to the Africa desert and later icy Northern Europe. He never had to service it. That watch is almost as old as me and it still tick away perfectly. Honestly, if you need a watch for work, you get a Citizen. They might not be for everyone, but they sure as hell won’t let you down.
Great review thanks. I found one today by accident in a jewelry shop window on sale for $299 Aussie , I was actually looking for an Eco Drive diver but really like this instead.
I'm in love with this watch! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and video.
Great tool watch. The 'Y' fronts underpants marker at 12 is so distinctive. Pairs well with the borealis isofrane.
I like the brushed case back on the coke. The other nys have the polished which as yknow is much easier to scratch
I love the design! Even tho I ended up getting the Eco Drive brother to this one I am really fond of this retro feel this design offers.
Takes me right back to my childhood, with three of my uncles diving they all had their Citizen dive watches and they just stuck with me.
To me this comes alive on a marine nationale style strap. I liked my square G a lot for its comfort and now I can't stand wearing it anymore as the Citizen is so much more comfortable on that strap. Also the crystal being just a hair beneath the bezel insert has got me through a year in the workshop with nothing but one tiny scratch, wich is impressive for a mineral crystal!
Very nice looking watch.,.,, great value...... thanks Pete
Thanks for watching!
Like you, I could not resist the beauty of this one
Great review as usual. Went and ordered one after watching this video 🙂
I have one as well, really happy with it :) looks great in NATO, leather, Oyster bracelet and rubber strap. The left hand crown is a nice detail that prevents it digging into the hand
Nice watch. I like Citizen, I have an eco drive and love it.
Citizen has always been in the shadow of seiko and their many accomplishments however that doesn’t mean that Citizens hasn’t made excellent watches throughout the years; from the leopards and 7 stars to these pro master diver. A really excellent brand.
Take notice Sieko...how chapter ring lines up perfectly
Too true😂
great watch, I have two versions. 2 fugu version. Great purchase. Consider also pairing with a mesh strap. you will be gobsmacked. cheers
I know it seems to like strap changes
Cheers
Great video! I have the green one and I love it.
Great watch
Great video
I have a 20 year old citizen diver still as good today as it was new. and it's quartz can't beat them.
Awesome watch. Love the Lefty crown. Citizen focus is now on Eco Drive. They are making less and less Automatics. I believe Citizen Autos will be very collectible in time.
Excelente reloj precioso .Me encantaria ese reloj con miyota 9012 seria increible buenas noches
It's weird but 10 days ago I bought the blue version-NY0040 17L, and here's your review! I absolutely agree with you, I have superior watches but I have an eye on since 90s-the blue version- just for the "look" of it.One day actually I was wearing a far superior diver and I caught myself staring the wrist of someone that was wearing the black version.So I bought one before it'll be discontinued and I feel so nice! It's not about the specs or status , it's for FUN !!
Well said
Nicest shade of blue I have seen on a watch.
Citizen great watches.
I own the fully lumed dial version with the upgraded 8204 movement which features hand winding and HACKING! Definitely a real keeper in my collection.
Can I ask where’s did you get the upgraded version ? I only see 8203 versions mostly
I just had to say Thanks again after watching this video when you originally posted it I started my search to find mine and ended up buying a Heimdallr with great specs already for my project @175$ and the coke bezel insert of Ebay bingo I now have a watch I'm extremely happy with although the decent supplied was a bit sharp along the bottom edge but still wears fine on my 7inch wrist really appreciate your fantastic high quality content Thanks my friend 👍
Thanks for sharing..cheers 👍
I’ve been considering the Coke or Pepsi of these Cirizens for a while. Thanks for the review - good to get insight from a trusted channel. Also, presenting the unit on the variety of straps is really helping me form my opinion.
I bought the Coke NY0085 with the 8104 movement a few months ago and it became quickly my daily beater. I love it dearly and the other watches in the collection are criminally neglected. However, I have replaced the dreadful bracelet with the excellent jubilee bracelet from long island watches. But it also cuts a fantastic figure on a third party rubber strap.
Nice find Pete. The deep black dial makes it super legible.
Great review Peter. A real tool watch from an excellent brand. I must add an automatic to my Citizen collection.
I just bought my first Citizen Promaster eco drive on black friday. It hasn't been delivered yet but I'm so looking forward to it. I'm new to watch collecting and can't afford the higher end stuff. I have the Casio Duro mdv-106 and I love it!
Great stuff Paul, enjoy it when it arrives
cheers
Had a promaster in the mid 90s and it was great, maybe time to look at one again.
Very nice to feature this Peter. A (devout ) Citizen ad has his shop where I take my watches a short walk away - his shop window is like a candy store and I pass it much too often ^^
Always doing an amazing job of helping to pull the trigger Peter. Very down to earth perspective and a true enthusiast.
I own the Pepsi NY0086 version of this watch and absolutely love it 👍🏻💯
I have the NY0040 predecessor to this watch with blue sunburst dial. It's a lovely piece and a better watch than skx in my opinion
Have yet to see on any watch a shade of blue that compares. A definite keeper. Cheers.
Peter, please keep doing such videos: you share so much passion with us so i'm literally charged to live and see the beauty of the world (including hardcrafted) in details. Peace ;)
Bless you Anton and thank you for the kind words
Cheers
Great review, i will be buying this watch thanks to your great quality video and information.
Cheers, enjoy it when it arrives
As seen from your thumbnail, it's really tempting.
Looks great, I love the NY0084-89EE (green bezel) version. Great stuff!
That lume is absolutely gorgeous.... i hope to get this some time....
I love them and I have 3 of these. Cheers Oni
Had 3 as well, but just pulled the trigger on this Coke.
I've just ordered this online for $199 AUD delivered. Can't really argue with that price point and excited to recieve my first automatic.
You're gonna love it..and it wears really well..👍👍
Where at that's a good price
I have a few JDM Citizens (gmt) and love them. Just got the PRX style one with a clockwork mvmnt and yellow dial. It's a stunning watch.
Great review, Peter! Sharp watch. I like the contrasting polished and brushed surfaces.
Cheers Pete
Thank you so much for this video and your time. I just purchased the watch because of you. I love it and I truly love the blue lum! Thank you. Liked and subscribed.
Welcome aboard and enjoy your new watch, beautiful dial and look, thats for sure 👍👍
Nice looking watch
This is a very underrated watch. Better than the SKX007 in every way.
It keeps great time and is built to last forever.
A Citizen Pro-master is the best watch you can buy for your money.
Looks nice and for $192 on Amazon not a bad price. I have the Prodiver eco and it's nice but I may add this to my collection even though I don't really need one.
That's right, Peter, if a watche's look at first does not appeal to us it's a no go. That coke and glossy black dial drew me in. Curious as to if the screw down crown is smooth, unlike the rough SKX, which is a pain in the you know what. Good point as a great starter piece for newbee's who want a real watch. Cheers, JP.
I have 2 SKX, one made in Malaysia the other in Japan
The Malaysian version has a rough crown whereas the Japanese version is buttery smooth
This Promaster falls somewhere in between (more towards the smooth
Cheers