The NCAA limits jersey numbers with a rule that makes sense until you think about it | Weird Rules

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  • I, for one, am sick of numbers and how dang big they get. For that reason, I give endless thanks to the NCAA and their rule about basketball jersey numbers. By restricting numbers to digits you can count with five fingers, my life has been simplified and I am sleeping better. They didn't even waver when the NBA solved the issue! They just kept saying "Zero to five only." Sure, maybe they don't "remember" when this rule became into existence because it isn't a "big deal." But the important part is making sure players have limited options and therefore can't pick a number that would help them become an individual. Reuse, reduce, recycle numbers in college basketball.
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  • @elimiller1200
    @elimiller1200 5 років тому +7297

    I respect the fact the video was 6 minutes and 9 seconds long

    • @thesourpretzel
      @thesourpretzel 5 років тому +79

      Hard respect

    • @eddieauer6775
      @eddieauer6775 5 років тому +14

      Oh hey

    • @teeghee34
      @teeghee34 5 років тому +40

      Nice

    • @pyrobryan
      @pyrobryan 5 років тому +348

      My timer says 6 minutes 8 seconds. But I guess I can just "add one to".

    • @lilbites0102
      @lilbites0102 5 років тому +9

      pyrobryan lol😂😂😂

  • @TetrisKing
    @TetrisKing 5 років тому +6538

    It might effect duke when they start retiring all the numbers.

    • @noahchase9647
      @noahchase9647 5 років тому +298

      Shane and north carolina, kansas, kentucky

    • @GI_Jimbo
      @GI_Jimbo 5 років тому +675

      Duke hasn't retired a single number since 2006. They don't have too many up there compared to a lot of schools. They only retire players who graduate, so the one and done era has slowed it down a lot.

    • @LegitimateJuice
      @LegitimateJuice 5 років тому +82

      Affect

    • @Donald_the_Potholer
      @Donald_the_Potholer 5 років тому +52

      One way to dodge that effect is to, after a kid's final game, change their "official" number to an illegal number. In most cases, that would involve changing either the ones digit *or* the tens digit, so that there is some resemblance to the original number, There are 3 special cases, however:
      1. The numbers 01-05 are reserved for 1-5 respectively, likely for the first person to be retired under that number. To account for this reservation, the single digit numbers 6-9 are not available to these players (or to 0 or 00), being distributed by Case 2 below.
      2. 6-9, (and by extension 06-09) would become available as a third option for players whose jersey digits summed to the respective (single-digit) number. (e.g. 51 becomes either 6 or 06 since 5+1=6)
      3. Players whose numbers are a multiple of 11 (but not 0/00) may also elect to be retired under an illegal multiple of 11. Since only 5 players qualify for this rule and 2 of them also qualify for the "Sum of digits" rule, these numbers can be directly allocated: 66 could be allocated to (the first retired) 11, 77 to 22, 88 to 33, (but 33 would no longer qualify for 6 or 66) and 99 to 55; 44 would not be served under this rule but still remain in contention for 8 or 08.
      As for the remaining 12 numbers, (67, 68, 69, 76, 78, 79, 86, 87, 89, 96, 97, and 98,) these could be set as "Important Contributor" numbers. (i.e. persons who were never on the court but are of *great* importance to either the team or the University proper.) 09 could also be assigned to this group, given that only 45 and 54 would qualify for it.

    • @wyattmoxley2291
      @wyattmoxley2291 5 років тому +2

      Shane lol

  • @eggbug2244
    @eggbug2244 5 років тому +2110

    The number 69 is banned in the NBA. There was an instance in which Dennis Rodman wanted to wear it but they denied him

    • @joshlitz4509
      @joshlitz4509 5 років тому +636

      It would be dennis rodman

    • @AGuyNamedBrook
      @AGuyNamedBrook 5 років тому +252

      This was when he became a Chicago Bull and his number 10 was retired prior to his arrival. He applied for 69 got rejected, then applied for 91 and got accepted.

    • @MrShanester117
      @MrShanester117 5 років тому +83

      Neil Johnson
      Football players definitely wear 69. Jared Allen for example

    • @0b5qRa
      @0b5qRa 5 років тому +124

      @@AGuyNamedBrook Nah. Since #10 is retired in Chicago, he wanted #01 but numbers starting with 0 is not allowed except 00. He settled for 91 because 9+1=10. So is 73(7+3=10) when he's in Lakers. He wanted 69 when he's in Dallas but not allowed. He settled for 70.

    • @AGuyNamedBrook
      @AGuyNamedBrook 5 років тому +23

      @@0b5qRa I actually went over that in a previous reply on this video. I did not know about the 01 part but I know he applied for 69 lol.

  • @jarvindriftwood
    @jarvindriftwood 5 років тому +3213

    Change last name to "Threetimes" get number 23.

  • @RamatiKat
    @RamatiKat 5 років тому +607

    Legally change your last name to: Add-Fourteen-To
    And pick 55.

  • @bsjeffrey
    @bsjeffrey 5 років тому +1859

    i think this discriminates against six fingered referees.

    • @ramirorybczuk9100
      @ramirorybczuk9100 5 років тому +64

      It actually makes a case for missing fingers referees

    • @mcj88
      @mcj88 5 років тому +12

      Dread Pirate Roberts' secondary career choice is _screwed_ then.

    • @bigpapipapa256
      @bigpapipapa256 5 років тому +2

      Agreed

    • @adameves5970
      @adameves5970 5 років тому +14

      You mean four-fingered referees. A ref with six fingers would have no issue with this rule.

    • @tiger5869
      @tiger5869 5 років тому +5

      Maybe if the ref has 6 fingers they should allow #6 and such for just that game

  • @ZakuIIX
    @ZakuIIX 5 років тому +2567

    The lack of a college number 6,7,8, or 9 is giving me some serious Mandela effect

    • @bobross1550
      @bobross1550 5 років тому +23

      Really? What basketball players did you think had those numbers in college?

    • @ZakuIIX
      @ZakuIIX 5 років тому +150

      @@bobross1550 In the NBA iguodala is a pretty famous number 9. I'm pretty sure Brent Barry wore 17 and Ron Harper wore 9. Again NBA only though but I would imagine they would have chosen to don those numbers in college as well

    • @aldiggty
      @aldiggty 5 років тому +103

      ZakuIIX They didn’t. Iggy wore 24, and Barry wore 31. Not sure about Ron

    • @kalstonii
      @kalstonii 5 років тому +12

      Wasny jj reddick 17 at duke???

    • @KarateSpencario01
      @KarateSpencario01 5 років тому +29

      kalstonii he was 4

  • @indiegum1694
    @indiegum1694 5 років тому +1218

    Of course Will wants a number 69 jersey, dude was cheering for Big Daddy 69 in that episode of The Worst about XFL

    • @FALL-LAFF-7477
      @FALL-LAFF-7477 5 років тому +5

      He blessed for that one.

    • @ashyourresidentenby5916
      @ashyourresidentenby5916 5 років тому +4

      XD YES

    • @malgold88
      @malgold88 5 років тому +14

      I think we were all cheering for Big Daddy 69.

    • @tgt773
      @tgt773 5 років тому +8

      I wish the nfl had someone like that, like could you imagine getting tackled by Big Daddy 69

  • @tropicalstorm24
    @tropicalstorm24 5 років тому +1725

    I could've sworn my MyPlayer in 2k16/17 wore #91 in college.

    • @jalen3590
      @jalen3590 5 років тому +524

      2k don't care

    • @ozanozenir2503
      @ozanozenir2503 5 років тому +224

      1128AM 2k doesnt need fingers to count

    • @swolemole69
      @swolemole69 5 років тому +291

      The refs grow fingers in 2k

    • @calvin1508
      @calvin1508 5 років тому +10

      It's a game dumbass

    • @bktootuff
      @bktootuff 5 років тому +1

      NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoN

  • @heyandy889
    @heyandy889 5 років тому +688

    "But 27's in there?"
    "No. ...Do you know the digits, and the order that they go in?"
    "Most of 'em"
    💀😂😂😂

  • @parkeradams5942
    @parkeradams5942 5 років тому +1546

    Do a video on why football players have to wear certain numbers....you don't ever see wide receivers wearing 68, or lineman wearing 85

    • @skibbidyrizz
      @skibbidyrizz 5 років тому +56

      Parker Adams I second this

    • @brianbadonde9251
      @brianbadonde9251 5 років тому +283

      It's obvious why not, positions have certain number they have to use. It's not rocket science

    • @skibbidyrizz
      @skibbidyrizz 5 років тому +286

      Rev Hitit maybe to you, but it’s obviously not common knowledge.

    • @Subdivision229
      @Subdivision229 5 років тому +80

      Rev Hitit but not everyone are football fans that understand why.

    • @brianbadonde9251
      @brianbadonde9251 5 років тому +63

      @@skibbidyrizz All you have to do I look an NFL team, notice that a range of numbers is used for receivers and a range for OL etc and it's common sense at that point. But I guess some idiots need their hands held while they learn something

  • @_MrMoney
    @_MrMoney 5 років тому +283

    Speaker: And now presenting our starter line-up:
    At Foward, Andy Roberts, number 10
    At Center, John Francis, number 21
    At Point Guard, Steve Peters, number 24
    At Power Foward, Ben Stevens, number 33
    [Silence] [lights go off]
    ...
    ...
    *[Sirens and Airhorns intensifies]*
    Speaker: AND NOW, STANDING 6 FOOT 1 INCHES, AT SHOOTING GUARD:
    *"THE MAD LAD" WILL ADD-ONE-TO, NUMBER 68"*

  • @WorldwideWyatt
    @WorldwideWyatt 5 років тому +424

    That's why Peppers wore 45 for UNC basketball, but 49 for the football team.

    • @cheetogod5521
      @cheetogod5521 5 років тому +10

      Worldwide Wyatt the more we know

  • @alisimchi1076
    @alisimchi1076 5 років тому +621

    He’s thinking 27 from Mr. Splash Man!

    • @DJLukk4
      @DJLukk4 5 років тому +38

      Shot Clock Cheeeeeseeee

    • @Sutidamuskun
      @Sutidamuskun 5 років тому +27

      Number 27 to Number 21

    • @DJLukk4
      @DJLukk4 5 років тому +16

      Suti~Tooti HOU-STON

    • @alexchavez1419
      @alexchavez1419 5 років тому +18

      LeBron James We’ve got a problem

    • @scottzummers2812
      @scottzummers2812 5 років тому +3

      Ali Simchi W

  • @joeynascar
    @joeynascar 5 років тому +512

    the NCAA doesn't know how to count using sign language

    • @BrendanKearnsMusic
      @BrendanKearnsMusic 5 років тому +22

      Yeah, but the NCAA would only be able to add numbers 7, 8, and maybe 6 [since it's commonly used in place of '3' for players] . 9 is currently used to signify 3 point shots (or 3 foul shots), so I'm okay with the rule since it reduces ambiguity in signaling.

    • @DBB314
      @DBB314 5 років тому +5

      BrendanKearnsMusic wtf are you talking about

    • @LuisFernandoAraiza
      @LuisFernandoAraiza 5 років тому +4

      BrendanKearnsMusic I understand what you are saying but I feel like the scores table people are smart enough to know if they are using that sign for a 3 point shot or for a jersey number. If not. Then they should be fired.

    • @boccci
      @boccci 5 років тому +17

      the way I was taught to do higher numbers as a ref is to turn my hand sideways, indicating a plus 5. A sideways two is seven, a sideways four is a nine, etc. etc.

    • @dddiop
      @dddiop 5 років тому +15

      @@LuisFernandoAraiza "You're saying the foul was committed by a 3 point shot? That just doesn't make any sense ref, but okay!"

  • @mcj88
    @mcj88 5 років тому +163

    In the NHL #0 and #00 were specifically banned in the late-90s, and supposedly the reason for this was because rookie Buffalo Sabres goalie Martin Biron _crashed the NHL's computer system_ by wearing #00 during his 3-game stint in 1995-96. The NHL's denied that's the reason (though of course they would, that'd be embarrassing considering the NBA has no such problems with those numbers) but they've also admitted that they don't actually _know_ the real reason 0 & 00 are banned, because the minutes of that meeting are supposedly lost to the sands of time...
    (my point here is that you should do more NHL history videos because the NHL's history is filled with so much silliness it should be talked about & laughed at all the time by everyone.)

  • @olgierdvoneverec4135
    @olgierdvoneverec4135 4 роки тому +10

    Referees should just signal in binary, now they can count up to 1023.

  • @slim8553
    @slim8553 5 років тому +273

    Actually, you cant use the number 69 in the nba. Dennis Rodman already tried lol

    • @willcarroll9762
      @willcarroll9762 5 років тому +10

      Furious Storm158 of course he did

    • @fridaynightpizza7158
      @fridaynightpizza7158 4 роки тому +14

      @@SimuLord nobody has ever used 64? what, no nintendo fans in the nba?

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 4 роки тому

      @@SimuLord I remember 98 was used by Hamed Haddadi in his one year with Phoenix because he wanted to reference his home country there. (It related to phone codes there for some reason.) However, I wonder if anyone else ever wore 98 before him?

    • @exwhyz7990
      @exwhyz7990 3 роки тому

      @@SimuLord No one used a stack of numbers

    • @ratedpending
      @ratedpending 3 роки тому +1

      @@crazyluigi6664 Jason Collins wore it in Brooklyn in honor of the dude who got beaten to death in a homophobic attack in 1998

  • @timothybrown5999
    @timothybrown5999 5 років тому +125

    As someone who has announced b-ball games and sat at the scorers’ table this rule is helpful. We need to record which players committed fouls and if the crowd is noisy you can only go off the ref’s hand signals. If someone wore 99 this would be really awkaward

    • @joshlitz4509
      @joshlitz4509 5 років тому

      @Hamed Khatiz still way easier to misunderstand

    • @timothybrown5999
      @timothybrown5999 5 років тому +17

      Hamed Khatiz when you are sitting at a table, floor level, and a ref points in the same general area as the rest of the players it’s even more confusing. But when he motions which foul the team belonged to and puts up a 3 and a 5 then I know the foul is on Blue 35

    • @DefaultProphet
      @DefaultProphet 5 років тому +7

      Just hold up 4 fingers sideways instead of vertical. Learned that watching Deadliest Catch.

    • @muhilan8540
      @muhilan8540 3 роки тому +13

      There are hundreds of ways to express all 10 digits using only one hand. Start with the ASL way of expressing for example.

    • @ItsYuhBoyyyy
      @ItsYuhBoyyyy 3 роки тому +4

      So just let them use 2 hands?

  • @epic9217
    @epic9217 5 років тому +36

    Legend has it that Will is still saying all the numbers he hasn’t seen in the NCAA

    • @johnthompson5741
      @johnthompson5741 5 років тому +1

      I got to this exact part of the video when I read this I just died 😂😂

  • @chicagoakland
    @chicagoakland 5 років тому +21

    George Mikan wore #99 for DePaul, but then again this was when basketball was played with peach baskets.

  • @kenzschueler
    @kenzschueler 5 років тому +24

    I'm still waiting to see a player in either college or pro wear a 1/2 Jersey.

  • @redtaileddolphin1875
    @redtaileddolphin1875 5 років тому +9

    As someone studying ASL it’s worth mentioning that the numbers 6-9 are also easy with one hand and also quite distinct from the other 6 digits, and that’s what makes this row even more wild for me

    • @redtaileddolphin1875
      @redtaileddolphin1875 3 роки тому +1

      @Kevin L ..... it’s hard work to learn 4 hand signs? they need a way to communicate numbers with one hand and it exists. that’s it. they already have to know to much extremely specific info to be a ref, I think 4 related hand signs would not be that much of a burden. if knowing the difference between a crow and a raven made being a sportscaster easier, I would indeed argue they should learn that info

    • @FUGP72
      @FUGP72 9 днів тому

      OK well...no one is using sign language in NCAA officiating, so it is a moot point.

    • @redtaileddolphin1875
      @redtaileddolphin1875 9 днів тому

      @@FUGP72 yeah man I’m saying they should, keep up

  • @etekweb
    @etekweb 3 роки тому +21

    I mean, the hand signal explanation makes sense to me. Then again I'm a programmer, so having bounds set up with that kind of practical logic is pretty common.

    • @Gabriel64468
      @Gabriel64468 2 роки тому +1

      It makes sense until you think about it.
      You would need all of 5 additional signs that the referees would need to learn.
      And that isn't even a new thing, there are languages in which this is normal - Chinese for example HAS one handed signs for single digit numbers.

  • @dddiop
    @dddiop 5 років тому +31

    My HS told us about this rule when we were ordering our jerseys and said we couldn't do it, but I still just wrote down "#91" (Rodman) and ended up coming in, wore it all season with 0 complaints from refs or anything and it all went peachy.

  • @Khan3r
    @Khan3r 5 років тому +59

    We just not gonna talk about the fact that they fs made this video 6:09 on purpose

  • @michaelhall5429
    @michaelhall5429 5 років тому +106

    This was a very good and interesting video. Thank you.

    • @ericveneto1593
      @ericveneto1593 5 років тому +3

      Are you saying it was "Pretty good"?

  • @pakkmann
    @pakkmann 5 років тому +11

    NFHS (high school) works under these same rules. Makes even more sense when you are dealing with many scorekeepers who are often volunteer students, parents, or staff. Unless you are involved in HS basketball, you'd be surprised how often there are communication issues between officials and the table. One final note - under NFHS rules, you can have 0 or 00, but not both on the same squad. cheers

  • @trevorcisneros6672
    @trevorcisneros6672 5 років тому +34

    Man gets banned from ncaa for having a jersey number of 69

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 5 років тому +6

      ...but not for the reason you'd think.

  • @AbsolXGuardian
    @AbsolXGuardian 3 роки тому +21

    This also gets more hilarious when you realize that ASL let's you communicate 0-9 using one hand. So there's already a hand signal system that gets around this

  • @braylip
    @braylip 5 років тому +22

    Omg when I was in 7th grade I was QB #40 (5:09)

  • @sammyvc2672
    @sammyvc2672 4 роки тому +34

    4:10
    "Who made that foul?"
    *Holds Up 15*
    "it was number 17"
    "Wait 17?"
    This made me chuckle all the 4 times i rewatched it

    • @Statsy10
      @Statsy10 3 роки тому

      I feel like he just proved the point. 😂

  • @SadOceanicsFan
    @SadOceanicsFan 5 років тому +9

    Having worked the scores table before, I’ll say that this rule definitely helps but it’s really dependent on the refs for whether or not it’s necessary. The good refs will say the numbers as they flash them so you’ll see them go “one, five” when the foul is on number 15. But the bad refs will just briefly hold up their hands. And I worked an AAU game where a team had a 15, a 51, and a 6, and one of the refs wouldn’t mouth the number when he flashed it which honestly was a disaster if I didn’t see who the foul was on myself.

  • @heyandy889
    @heyandy889 5 років тому +10

    Shout-out to #68 in your programs, starting at small forward, Will Add-One-To.

  • @AaronOnTheTrails
    @AaronOnTheTrails 5 років тому +10

    There was a slight edit to the rule once. Before 1999 the numbers 1 and 2 also weren't allowed. The reasoning was the official would signal for one or two free throws.

  • @atticusshadowmore3263
    @atticusshadowmore3263 5 років тому +54

    They do ASL exists right? They have single handed signs for 1-99

    • @gavinwhite3871
      @gavinwhite3871 4 роки тому +5

      Yeah, most of those signs have motion in them which would make them difficult. But 0-10 all have single hand signs that dont move

    • @guppy719
      @guppy719 4 роки тому

      Sure and that would defeat the purpose by introducing a new system people aren't used to.

    • @atticusshadowmore3263
      @atticusshadowmore3263 4 роки тому +2

      @@guppy719 Granted, but still, there is a very easy counting system out there most don't use

    • @guppy719
      @guppy719 4 роки тому

      @@atticusshadowmore3263 Its not as easy as counting on your fingers which everybody recognizes.

    • @pct87
      @pct87 3 роки тому +1

      @@guppy719 driving isnt as easy as walking, but ppl learn that. Just cause u want to limit yourself, doesn’t mean all ppl do.

  • @The_Drum_Bum
    @The_Drum_Bum 5 років тому +14

    “Player 24
    Holding
    I’m itchy”

  • @ProgShell
    @ProgShell 3 роки тому +6

    “Do you know the numbers and the order they go in?” is such a brutal thing to say to someone.

  • @KofieWhy
    @KofieWhy 5 років тому +108

    WE LIKE SPORTS AND WE DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS

  • @PassivesAbseits
    @PassivesAbseits 5 років тому +107

    Everyone that ever watched or played a game of Highschool Basketball should know, that this rule exsist...

    • @tommclarty17
      @tommclarty17 5 років тому +29

      Which means the entire heterosexual community has been in the dark about this.

    • @michaelgriggs7839
      @michaelgriggs7839 5 років тому +5

      I didn't know about this and i play basketball and i know a lot of people who don't know about this either. A lot of people don't pick those numbers anyway

    • @Hogscraper
      @Hogscraper 5 років тому +9

      ​@@tommclarty17 Thanks for clearing up that the entire NBA is homosexual. I'm sure the hundreds of wives of NBA players are going to be shocked to hear this.

    • @MrChinbaca
      @MrChinbaca 5 років тому

      Same rules don’t apply in high school g.. tf are you talking about

    • @tommclarty17
      @tommclarty17 5 років тому

      Hogscraper you’re welcome!

  • @jmandawgfan2533
    @jmandawgfan2533 5 років тому +25

    I like how the video is 6 minutes, 9 seconds

    • @ypcsquirrel
      @ypcsquirrel 4 роки тому

      Most people with iqs under 70 would

  • @zym6687
    @zym6687 5 років тому +5

    I used to ref HS ball and this never even occurred to me since we used ASL signs.

  • @andrewchapman2039
    @andrewchapman2039 3 роки тому +3

    What I want to see is a ref with polydactyly who allows the number six.

  • @WileyKoyote
    @WileyKoyote 5 років тому +6

    Next to anything by Jon Bois, Weird Rules is my favorite SB Nation series. Good job dudes.

  • @FALL-LAFF-7477
    @FALL-LAFF-7477 Рік тому +2

    Ah, an update from the future. NCAA will allowed 0-99 on their jersey.
    So, Will, your chance to get 69 in NCAA will be open if this allowed.

  • @cman3310
    @cman3310 3 роки тому +3

    This actually came from a controversial ejection where a player wearing 15 was ejected but one of the fouls should have been attributed to #6. This happened twice in 1963.

  • @thomasfinnegan1425
    @thomasfinnegan1425 4 роки тому +3

    Or you can change your last name to “sixty” and wear #9

  • @my0p1n10nst1nks
    @my0p1n10nst1nks 5 років тому +3

    As a basketball official I got to say this rule is one of the best ones. Two hand reporting is simpler when I can throw both numbers up at once. This also makes it less likely for an official scorekeeper to make any mistakes.

  • @pjabrony8280
    @pjabrony8280 5 років тому +10

    So if Antonio Alfonseca became a NCAA referee, could they wear up to 66?

    • @DaDualityofMan
      @DaDualityofMan 5 років тому +2

      I mean he would have to referee every single game across the country.

  • @JeffersonSteelflexx
    @JeffersonSteelflexx 5 років тому +23

    Do a video on why Raymond Felton is the undisputed goat

  • @MrAflac9916
    @MrAflac9916 4 роки тому +1

    My college football team has a player named Titsworth
    His number is 69
    Dead serious, google it

  • @luhardaway4474
    @luhardaway4474 5 років тому +5

    Are people really just figuring this out?

  • @koraihoshiumi3137
    @koraihoshiumi3137 5 років тому +2

    Maybe there was a 1 handed ref in the 60s?

  • @Ramboost007
    @Ramboost007 5 років тому +10

    This is going to make a great question for Tom Scott's Lateral.

    • @brakosjacob8019
      @brakosjacob8019 5 років тому

      Wasn't expecting a Tom Scott reference over here. Mystery biscuits to you.

  • @PAYD-UD
    @PAYD-UD 3 роки тому +2

    If you have ever officiated a basketball game you appreciate this rule. Just makes it easier and avoids confusion.

    • @pct87
      @pct87 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, but then they couldn’t make these moderately funny jokes. Logic has no place here.

  • @michaelhall5429
    @michaelhall5429 5 років тому +28

    books about Sir Donald Bradman and then make a video about him please.

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 5 років тому +1

      Americans talking about cricket would make that one even better

    • @michaelhall5429
      @michaelhall5429 5 років тому +2

      @@AlonsoRules it'd just be nice for them to see what a real statistical anomaly looked like. Jordan, Tiger, Brady and Federer are all great but literally no sportsman has stood out like the don did.

  • @MrJoshwahhh
    @MrJoshwahhh 4 роки тому +1

    If the ref only has one hand, he can't handle any numbers above 5

  • @thewatcher2305
    @thewatcher2305 5 років тому +6

    Ummm maybe use 2 hands?.....

    • @Fater4511
      @Fater4511 5 років тому +1

      is the number then 9 or 45? or 54? they actually only use one hand. First digit is palm toward scores table, second is back of hand. to avoid any confusion.

  • @jerryz6438
    @jerryz6438 5 років тому +1

    College rules are applied to tournaments (unlike NBA) where refs may have to relay calls, or report calls far away, to the score table to keep the games moving. A sign language 7,8,9 is hard to see at distance and according to most coaches all refs are blind anyways, so this can be a problem. In all seriousness it actually is a good rule that seems silly.

  • @Kipple-wp7pd
    @Kipple-wp7pd 5 років тому +125

    2:40 oh so NBA refs have 9 fingers on each hand??

    • @04music98
      @04music98 5 років тому +2

      What

    • @TheBHNetwork
      @TheBHNetwork 5 років тому +17

      Kipple 1998 This comment makes no sense but 83 people liked it for some reason

    • @Kipple-wp7pd
      @Kipple-wp7pd 5 років тому +10

      @@TheBHNetwork he said has to be number 1-5 cause 5 fingers. NBA refs have 5 fingers too but no rule on the number. the fact it didn't make sense kinda says a lot about you.

    • @ExpulsoPlayz
      @ExpulsoPlayz 5 років тому +6

      In the NBA and non-NCAA bball organisations, the numbers are shown with both hands, while verbalising and switching the face of your hand to show a different number. E.g. for 32, you would show 3 fingers with the back of your hand, and then 2 finger with the palm towards the scorer

    • @scatterthoughts
      @scatterthoughts 5 років тому

      they're an elite group

  • @BigShaneGillis
    @BigShaneGillis 3 роки тому +1

    It’s because it’s much easier for the referees to signal the player in contention’s jersey number to the scores table with their fingers, gesturing the signal for clarity and verification.

  • @KazoogleKoogle
    @KazoogleKoogle 5 років тому +4

    I didn't believe this so I checked my college's basketball team numbers and yeah it holds up.

  • @aidanmiller5298
    @aidanmiller5298 3 роки тому +1

    As a waterpolo player with the number 36 I completely understand why this rule was put in place

  • @jordandavies4482
    @jordandavies4482 5 років тому +7

    Why don’t they... you know.... use both hands? The refs here in Australia do that

    • @6thwilbury2331
      @6thwilbury2331 5 років тому

      Jordan Davies They do now, and have been for at least a decade.

    • @ballwizz23
      @ballwizz23 5 років тому

      Because 6 and 15/51 would look the same. The same rule is used for high school bball. It's much clearer if one hand is used. No chance of confusion.

    • @jordandavies4482
      @jordandavies4482 5 років тому

      Ballwiz 23 how would 6 and 15 look the same. 6 you hold up 5 fingers on one hand and 1 on the other. 15 you close one fist to represent 10, and hold 5 fingers on the other. If you get confused because of that, there is something secretly wrong with you

    • @ballwizz23
      @ballwizz23 5 років тому

      @@jordandavies4482 Close one fist and hold up five fingers on the other hand? You serious? Do that and people will think that means 50. Literally nobody would inherently understand that and it's just asking for bookkeeping errors. Especially at lower levels where the people keeping score and track of stats aren't professionals. Much easier to have this simple yet effective rule in place.
      - A basketball referee of 8 years

    • @jordandavies4482
      @jordandavies4482 5 років тому

      Ballwiz 23 if it doesn’t work then why does all of Australia do it that way?

  • @MakeVarahHappen
    @MakeVarahHappen 5 років тому +1

    You know other countries have hand systems that go way past five, right? Adopt that. It'll make your refs look cooler and more cultured too.

  • @saintarkweather
    @saintarkweather 5 років тому +15

    Basically they have Base-6 numbers

  • @jasong3652
    @jasong3652 4 роки тому +2

    I remember watching a NCAA game when I was a kid when a player got a technical foul for an illegal jersey number

  • @ericveneto1593
    @ericveneto1593 5 років тому +3

    Do a video on why hockey has no formal jersey number rules.

  • @juniorfibroso
    @juniorfibroso 5 років тому +2

    You should explain how NBA and FIBA use the signals when a player in "#17" make a foul.

  • @nathantagg2691
    @nathantagg2691 5 років тому +11

    *Holds up a 1 and a 5* "It was number 17"

  • @mattstokes9624
    @mattstokes9624 3 роки тому +1

    Does that mean that to be a Ref in NCAA, you have to have all ten fingers? "Dude's missing a thumb, cut him."

  • @notahotshot
    @notahotshot 4 роки тому +3

    "I understand the words."
    I'm not sure he does.

  • @djmonaco39
    @djmonaco39 11 місяців тому +2

    NOT ANYMORE 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @StopChangingUsernamesYouTube
    @StopChangingUsernamesYouTube 5 років тому +9

    "How foul is he?"
    **Holds up fingers** "THIS MANY!"

  • @saadmanbinwarsi719
    @saadmanbinwarsi719 3 роки тому +1

    dude my number is 47, i have always wear it on every sport and used 7 on football (soccer). bruh this is crime, let me use 47

  • @alsacrime4806
    @alsacrime4806 5 років тому +11

    Cf. Jon Bois, his topic choices, his unforced, brilliant humor.
    Jon Bois is quite good at what he does.

  • @lesbianomen
    @lesbianomen 5 років тому +20

    just wait til they figure out how the ASL number system works

  • @kelly.richardson
    @kelly.richardson 5 років тому +1

    I wouldn’t say it’s a stupid rule. A referee holds up the number 6. Is the foul on number 15, 51, or 6?

  • @GoodyearSimp
    @GoodyearSimp 5 років тому +3

    The reason I had to wear 13

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 2 роки тому +1

    They only let him out to discuss weird rules. I wonder if he knows they never say his name, and that when they say they want him to read or explain a rule, they’re lying.

  • @Banozic23
    @Banozic23 5 років тому +5

    This video is 6:9 long.
    Nice

  • @gmr1525
    @gmr1525 4 роки тому +1

    Easy solution to the hand symbols, ASL. You can sign any single digit number with one hand

  • @mfinn5146
    @mfinn5146 5 років тому +3

    Gymnasiums can be very loud places. To avoid confusion and to avoid mistakes made by the scorer, limiting the jersey numbers to digits the ref can signal with one hand make complete sense.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill 5 років тому

      Still odd you can have 1 and 11/2 and 22 etc but not 0 and 00

    • @BrendanKearnsMusic
      @BrendanKearnsMusic 5 років тому

      @@darrengordon-hill I think it might be a software/technical limitation that would prevent 00 from showing up on the scoreboard.

    • @adamcoe
      @adamcoe 7 місяців тому

      Yet somehow the NBA manages to do it in 18,000 seat arenas, how incredible

  • @thewalrusdragon9579
    @thewalrusdragon9579 5 років тому +1

    Makes sense that it came from an older era. Basketball is one of the few sports where fouls add up and can lead to ejection. So making sure the stat takers get the players number correct when a ref signals them can be pretty important. Sure with the technology we have now we could easily remove the number restrictions and probably never have an issue, but that wasn’t the case even 30 years ago.

  • @LeoAr37
    @LeoAr37 5 років тому +4

    This interaction was hilarious I lost it at 2:14

  • @kev6661
    @kev6661 4 роки тому +1

    Using ASL you can count to 100 on a single hand, problem solved.

  • @asd36f
    @asd36f 5 років тому +3

    There was an Australian rules football player who wore #100 as a joke during a regular season game.

  • @dazeen9591
    @dazeen9591 4 роки тому +1

    I've seen number 8 before and number 91 on Rodman... ?

  • @altpersonas
    @altpersonas 5 років тому +3

    Why can’t they just say the numbers aloud to the scorers table

    • @MeechYaboy
      @MeechYaboy 5 років тому +1

      College arenas

    • @Josh8far
      @Josh8far 5 років тому

      They do, as well as the hand signals. In a loud gym, though, yelling is unreliable. It is better to rely on the book keepers vision, which is seldom obstructed, than their hearing, which can be overpowered.

    • @jnjrob806
      @jnjrob806 5 років тому +1

      trippytropicana because I think about it all f your officiating a game in a gym where the atmosphere is excited and loud, the table is not going to hear you say whatever number your saying even if your projecting your voice. That why hand signals are important.

  • @izzyhopeunlisted
    @izzyhopeunlisted 4 роки тому +1

    Use sign language. You can show 6,7,8,9 with a single hand

  • @alexandertraeger6642
    @alexandertraeger6642 5 років тому +12

    I actually think this rule is quite reasonable. I did book while in High School and this rule mostly eliminated miscommunication

    • @redfish337
      @redfish337 5 років тому +2

      I think college basketball makes enough money they can teach their refs and the scorers table the 4 ASL signs for 6, 7, 8 and 9 before giving them the job. It's not that big of an imposition on high school either.

  • @mcdonaldswi-fi9502
    @mcdonaldswi-fi9502 5 років тому +1

    BYU versus Utah beef, they had to stop off for a few years in basketball and football

  • @aaronbn9417
    @aaronbn9417 5 років тому +5

    Rewind David Ortiz's grand slam against the tigers

  • @shdavidmiller
    @shdavidmiller 5 років тому +2

    Base 6 numbering system. Makes perfect sense to me.

  • @Psycho5275
    @Psycho5275 5 років тому +6

    A couple years ago Euroleague changed the rules allowing numbers 0-99 under fifa rule changes 2014 ART 4.3.2

  • @gurnawazgill8576
    @gurnawazgill8576 5 років тому +1

    The NCAA discriminates against 6-fingered refs

  • @thebasketballhistorian3291
    @thebasketballhistorian3291 5 років тому +4

    "Do you know the numbers and the order that they go in?"
    "Most of them."
    lol

  • @orion45
    @orion45 4 роки тому +1

    bruh geroge mikan was number 99 for depaul

  • @pineapplegamer6986
    @pineapplegamer6986 5 років тому +4

    Do a beef history on SB Nation vs Jon Bois

  • @selfishstockton6123
    @selfishstockton6123 5 років тому +1

    I wonder what number Kobe would have worn in college