I release a weekly exclusive podcast! You can get it on Patreon patreon.com/thelinuxcast 0:00 Intro 1:53 You Don't Need A Homelab 3:18 The UI 5:41 What I Use it For 8:29 Notes 11:56 I'm not a power user 15:26 Wrapping Up
if you can do it in a VM or something i'd like a video on how to do that. i always thought u had to buy a server or something. ive never done anything like that and would like a video on how to learn different ways of doing things, as im currently using nextcloud on there free acct just to keep some photos and wallpapers as a 2ndary spot.
man, gotta say it, first time heard about this show on this video and i got to say there is no better person came across explaining about nextcloud than you (recently 2024). it's awesome
I've been using nextcloud for a few years now. The main drawback, besides the general slowness, are the incredibly primitive and bad desktop and mobile apps. The mobile one specifically is basically broken, downloading a file only has around a 20% chance of actually working and the indicator bars/notifications are useless or just not showing up.
Matt, loved this video! I would highly appreciate a tutorial video on installing and using Nextcloud for the first time. I currently am working on software development and am looking to self host most of my projects. Nextcloud has been something that I've definitely been considering. Keep the awesome content coming. Cheers! Mike
As a fairly superficial user, as you yourself sound like(!) what might be good is a guide to moving all the Onedrive/Whatevs syncing on phone and Linux laptop, across to Nextcloud. I think you can assume many/most of us have a spare laptop available to run whatever server software might be needed.
Please make more videos about nextcloud !!! It would really help me with my slow transition to open source everything. Great video. Super curious to see more
I also want to use nextcloud same as you are using, but there are 2 issues with me - - getting started with nextcloud seems difficult to me ( it would be very helpful if you make video tutorial ) - I have a folder in my pc which has all the photos, i just want to know that if i install nextcloud in my pc, will i be able to sync my photos from phone to pc in same folder..... or does nextcloud make new directory to sync files ??
Nextcloud out of the box is a pain in the a** to deal with, it runs abysmally slow.. i had it working well at one point but then couldn't figure out what to do with it lol.
haha yeh me too, i set it up and then was like wtf am I using this for even and that was that. I just dont have a need to control my own cloud storage solutions at this point
I got it running on a zpool of 4 nvme devices, running in its own vm with 2 CPU cores and 16G ram. With redis installed it's basically greased lightning compared to most other cloudsolution that I've tried. I had a lot of problems with the docker versions so I just gave up on those. They work, sure...but vms are so much easier.
It strikes me as a little archaic. It's absolutely full featured and pretty slick but php and js with apache dependency for serving the files and all that... it's a lot for a somewhat technical user to deploy and more importantly rely on over time and be able to maintain. I'm interested in owncloud's rewrite in golang but I've not looked at either of them in any depth so I could be a little off base.
Nextcloud is really cool but I had too many issues using it. I couldn’t get AI photo recognition, or document editing to work. I have a giant folder of everything I ever wanted to store and wanted to add it to nextcloud, I would have to manually trigger a local file scan by terminal command inside the nextcloud docker container, wait 30mins and have it crash because it tried to scan a particular single file. And good luck whenever you need to do a major update
I had issues with it also when I had it installed directly on a ubuntu server. Now I run it in Proxmox in a lxc container, and all the issues seem to go away.
If you are concerned about flooding the feed with Homelab would you consider creating a new channel? Maybe The Linux Lab? That way the algorithm doesn't hurt the main channel.
Is there anyway to use Nextcloud on Linode but have the data automatically stored on my Proton Mail Drive? Thinking I’d get convenience from the node and security for data from Proton.
Isn't 'bad UI" the virus that plagues like 90% of open-source softwares ? I feel like "normalizing" a good out-of-the-box experience for open-source stuff would be a bigger game-changer that we can imagine, but at the same time I also feel like some problems, like bad UI, just cannot be change and will forever be on the flip side of the FOSS coin.
What are we comparing against? Modern UI stuff in Windows is pretty confusing. I'd rather have obvious settings exposed than have to google where some trendy UI developers thought it would be a good idea to hide stuff because they have some object oriented brain virus about how things should be changed :) Honestly, other than making things prettier which is easy, has Windows really improved their UI since 98 or XP?
What's wrong with NC UI? Apart from a strange looking dark theme (like if you have dark double applied by DarkReader), I don't see the uglyness tbh. The colors can be changed with custom css or 3rd party themes.
Hey, great video; thanks. Q: What are the minimum requirements for NextCloud? I'm thinking of acquiring a VPS to host it, but I'm not sure what's a good option. I found the "Hetzner Storage Share" that provides 1TB of storage and bring the NextCloud installed, but I'm not sure about RAM, etc.
I have been deploying my instance, and yes, it works. However, it is incredibly hard to set up. I believe this is mostly associated with people trying to deploy it to a cheap cloud instance. With hard time, I really meant reliably*
One advantage of Nextcloud, assuming you run it on something like a Linode instance, is that it would be available outside of your network by default. Also, binding a custom domain name to a server (Nextcloud or otherwise) is easier if it's publicly accessible.
As Matt mentioned https if you're using nginx only needs enabled and configured on nginx. Your browser hits nginx and it works as a proxy to your actual web server which can stay http or not. So generally, you can lookup how to create self signed certs for nginx and do that. It's just... a little complex for a home network and maybe sending a link to your buddy so you can share files
i set my nextcloud instance up for the same reason as you, i don’t need anything fancy but a way to view my markdown notes from my laptop. I am kinda disappointed honestly, first off the file app on ios cannot live view markdown and txt files for some reason, and the note app hasn’t been maintained for a long time, so things like markdown image and github style table don’t work at all, even though the web interface is fantastic and doesn’t have these problems. It seems to me open source developers don’t like to maintain ios app, at this point i don’t mind to pay extra bucks for that
@@Dispatch4131 I don't. But I think I already have one since I've never seen it change. If you host locally without exposing it and use something like tailscale it'd work no matter what.
I have tried multiple times with multiple email accounts to open a linode account and it always comes back denied and it says due to fraudulant reasons, no other explanation. anyone else have this problem?
Unfortunately Linode got bought out a few years ago, I recommend you try another provider. Personally I use Hetzner although they have a KYC policy so you'd need to sacrifice that.
I release a weekly exclusive podcast! You can get it on Patreon patreon.com/thelinuxcast
0:00 Intro
1:53 You Don't Need A Homelab
3:18 The UI
5:41 What I Use it For
8:29 Notes
11:56 I'm not a power user
15:26 Wrapping Up
Thank you for the INTRO! Much appreciated!
if you can do it in a VM or something i'd like a video on how to do that. i always thought u had to buy a server or something. ive never done anything like that and would like a video on how to learn different ways of doing things, as im currently using nextcloud on there free acct just to keep some photos and wallpapers as a 2ndary spot.
Thank you so much for the kind words! 😊So glad you are having a great experience with Nextcloud!
You're appreciated Matt. I hope Nextcloud doesn't switch up on us
@@Blessed2bFresh Switch to what? Subscription?
They probably wont they already got profitability they dont need to "switch" upon us.
man, gotta say it, first time heard about this show on this video and i got to say there is no better person came across explaining about nextcloud than you (recently 2024). it's awesome
Cant get enough of your content and knowledge.
I've been using nextcloud for a few years now. The main drawback, besides the general slowness, are the incredibly primitive and bad desktop and mobile apps. The mobile one specifically is basically broken, downloading a file only has around a 20% chance of actually working and the indicator bars/notifications are useless or just not showing up.
I was just looking into nextcloud.. Great video ❤
I'm all for more homelab stuff!
The app reviews and apps is the main reason I watch the videos, and running a homelab is one of my other hobbies too
I love my next cloud. Its crazt what kind of power we have been blessed with.
Matt, loved this video! I would highly appreciate a tutorial video on installing and using Nextcloud for the first time. I currently am working on software development and am looking to self host most of my projects. Nextcloud has been something that I've definitely been considering. Keep the awesome content coming. Cheers! Mike
Would definitely be interested in more home server related content. Great video, thanks!
As a fairly superficial user, as you yourself sound like(!) what might be good is a guide to moving all the Onedrive/Whatevs syncing on phone and Linux laptop, across to Nextcloud. I think you can assume many/most of us have a spare laptop available to run whatever server software might be needed.
Please make more videos about nextcloud !!! It would really help me with my slow transition to open source everything. Great video. Super curious to see more
I also want to use nextcloud same as you are using, but there are 2 issues with me -
- getting started with nextcloud seems difficult to me ( it would be very helpful if you make video tutorial )
- I have a folder in my pc which has all the photos, i just want to know that if i install nextcloud in my pc, will i be able to sync my photos from phone to pc in same folder..... or does nextcloud make new directory to sync files ??
I'd love a tutorial on how to install NextCloud!! I tried before but never could set it up with my homelab :(
I would love to see a tutorial on installing nextcloud. Thank you! :)
Nextcloud out of the box is a pain in the a** to deal with, it runs abysmally slow.. i had it working well at one point but then couldn't figure out what to do with it lol.
haha yeh me too, i set it up and then was like wtf am I using this for even and that was that. I just dont have a need to control my own cloud storage solutions at this point
Maybe I'm just used to slow things. I do use zypper.
loading a folder with large items count in it on the web interface is another hell on earth
I got it running on a zpool of 4 nvme devices, running in its own vm with 2 CPU cores and 16G ram. With redis installed it's basically greased lightning compared to most other cloudsolution that I've tried. I had a lot of problems with the docker versions so I just gave up on those. They work, sure...but vms are so much easier.
Have you tried their AIO setup? It made a world of difference for me in soeed
It strikes me as a little archaic. It's absolutely full featured and pretty slick but php and js with apache dependency for serving the files and all that... it's a lot for a somewhat technical user to deploy and more importantly rely on over time and be able to maintain. I'm interested in owncloud's rewrite in golang but I've not looked at either of them in any depth so I could be a little off base.
Yes please do a docker tutorial for next cloud! That's been in my list of things to try but I just haven't found the time yet.
Nextcloud is really cool but I had too many issues using it.
I couldn’t get AI photo recognition, or document editing to work.
I have a giant folder of everything I ever wanted to store and wanted to add it to nextcloud, I would have to manually trigger a local file scan by terminal command inside the nextcloud docker container, wait 30mins and have it crash because it tried to scan a particular single file.
And good luck whenever you need to do a major update
I had issues with it also when I had it installed directly on a ubuntu server. Now I run it in Proxmox in a lxc container, and all the issues seem to go away.
I wonder if the snap offered by Ubuntu works out of the box.
Why do you need AI photo recognition?
It’s so weird how it can work fine in some environments but not others
@@diotitus I don’t. But if it’s there, why not? That wasn’t the dealbreaker for me. It was the other 5 issues I had but didn’t mention
How to back it up in case of catastrophic disk failure? Just rsync the 'data' folder? I assume you can't do it with live database?
If you are concerned about flooding the feed with Homelab would you consider creating a new channel? Maybe The Linux Lab? That way the algorithm doesn't hurt the main channel.
Thanks for your enthusiasm for this software. The community seems a bit mixed as to its usefulness and speed.
Is there anyway to use Nextcloud on Linode but have the data automatically stored on my Proton Mail Drive?
Thinking I’d get convenience from the node and security for data from Proton.
Isn't 'bad UI" the virus that plagues like 90% of open-source softwares ? I feel like "normalizing" a good out-of-the-box experience for open-source stuff would be a bigger game-changer that we can imagine, but at the same time I also feel like some problems, like bad UI, just cannot be change and will forever be on the flip side of the FOSS coin.
What are we comparing against? Modern UI stuff in Windows is pretty confusing. I'd rather have obvious settings exposed than have to google where some trendy UI developers thought it would be a good idea to hide stuff because they have some object oriented brain virus about how things should be changed :) Honestly, other than making things prettier which is easy, has Windows really improved their UI since 98 or XP?
What's wrong with NC UI? Apart from a strange looking dark theme (like if you have dark double applied by DarkReader), I don't see the uglyness tbh. The colors can be changed with custom css or 3rd party themes.
Hey, great video; thanks. Q: What are the minimum requirements for NextCloud? I'm thinking of acquiring a VPS to host it, but I'm not sure what's a good option. I found the "Hetzner Storage Share" that provides 1TB of storage and bring the NextCloud installed, but I'm not sure about RAM, etc.
I have been deploying my instance, and yes, it works. However, it is incredibly hard to set up. I believe this is mostly associated with people trying to deploy it to a cheap cloud instance.
With hard time, I really meant reliably*
Notes sync inside my LAN can actually be very useful.
I have and love a Synology NAS. Is there any reason for me to look into Nextcloud?
One advantage of Nextcloud, assuming you run it on something like a Linode instance, is that it would be available outside of your network by default. Also, binding a custom domain name to a server (Nextcloud or otherwise) is easier if it's publicly accessible.
Have you tried obsidian with remote sync to nextcloud?
No. I just put my vault in the nextcloud directory.
do the tutorial for nextcloud. please do the whole stack from docker to networking and domain and stuff
As far as next Cloud setup, I'd be interested in how you deal with certs. Mostly interested in LAN access but some studf requiees hrrps to be usedul.
I use nginx and cloudflare. I'm a total noob when it comes to that stuff though
As Matt mentioned https if you're using nginx only needs enabled and configured on nginx. Your browser hits nginx and it works as a proxy to your actual web server which can stay http or not. So generally, you can lookup how to create self signed certs for nginx and do that.
It's just... a little complex for a home network and maybe sending a link to your buddy so you can share files
@@TheLinuxCast that's still more than I feel like I know haha
i set my nextcloud instance up for the same reason as you, i don’t need anything fancy but a way to view my markdown notes from my laptop. I am kinda disappointed honestly, first off the file app on ios cannot live view markdown and txt files for some reason, and the note app hasn’t been maintained for a long time, so things like markdown image and github style table don’t work at all, even though the web interface is fantastic and doesn’t have these problems.
It seems to me open source developers don’t like to maintain ios app, at this point i don’t mind to pay extra bucks for that
Nextcloud bookmarks + floccus extension works well also btw
Do you have to pay for a static IP if you host it yourself?
@@Dispatch4131 I don't. But I think I already have one since I've never seen it change. If you host locally without exposing it and use something like tailscale it'd work no matter what.
The Nextcloud blue makes me feel trapped for some reason 😂
I have tried multiple times with multiple email accounts to open a linode account and it always comes back denied and it says due to fraudulant reasons, no other explanation. anyone else have this problem?
Unfortunately Linode got bought out a few years ago, I recommend you try another provider. Personally I use Hetzner although they have a KYC policy so you'd need to sacrifice that.
Gotta love it. Nextcloud rocks!
PLEASE make a tutorial on how to properly install and use it at home AND on a VPS. PLEASE!
feel free to make home lab content!
Thanks
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Bronze medal well done 🥉
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