Mel#2: The Dome is not mentioned until the 9th c.

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  • @nemesis1291
    @nemesis1291 2 роки тому +40

    The SIN is crumbling day by day, thanks for bringing this out for everyone to see. History are being rewritten, alhamdulillah!

  • @tonyputman3398
    @tonyputman3398 2 роки тому +22

    "And you shall know the truth, and the truth will make you free." Thank you gents for exposing this fraud!! God bless!!

  • @yakovmatityahu
    @yakovmatityahu 2 роки тому +31

    Its always a pleasure to see Mel and Jay exposing SIN...Great

    • @sciencescholar3440
      @sciencescholar3440 2 роки тому +1

      That Metatron is a Rabbanic invention.
      They brought this figure in the place of Jesus for Christians.
      We find a figure in the Torah called The Angel of the LORD , so these rabbis brought an angel who is not God but unique among angels.
      In Islamic tradition, he is also known as Mīṭaṭrūn (Arabic: ميططرون), the angel of the veil.
      no I'm not Jewish, are you?Yakov Matityahu.

    • @sciencescholar3440
      @sciencescholar3440 2 роки тому +1

      May be you are like me....

  • @canamglobal
    @canamglobal 2 роки тому +22

    From Wikipedia:
    History shows us that the muslims have done this over and over again.
    In India in a place called Ayodhya a mosque was forcibly built over a hindu temple called Babri Masjid
    Bābarī Masjid; meaning Mosque of Babur.This site is believed by many Hindus to be the birthplace of Hindu deity Rama.
    It has been a focus of dispute between the Hindu and Muslim communities since the 18th century.
    According to the mosque's inscriptions, it was built in 1528-29 (935 AH) by general Mir Baqi, on the orders of the Mughal emperor Babur.
    The mosque was attacked and demolished by a Hindu nationalist mob in 1992, which ignited communal violence across the Indian subcontinent.
    The final judgement in the Ayodhya dispute was declared by the Supreme Court of India on 9 November 2019.
    The Supreme Court ordered the disputed land (2.77 acres) to be handed over to a trust (to be created by the government of India) to build the Ram Janmabhoomi (revered as the birthplace of Hindu deity, Rama) temple.
    The court also ordered the government to give an alternative 5 acres of land in another place to the Uttar Pradesh Sunni Central Waqf Board for the purpose of building a mosque as a replacement for the demolished Babri Masjid.
    This is what Israel should do. Follow India. Demolish the Dome and rebuild the Temple.

    • @ssv7195
      @ssv7195 2 роки тому +5

      In the book of revelations or the old testament , it says that the temple will be rebuilt

    • @bestKaffir.underTheSon
      @bestKaffir.underTheSon 2 роки тому

      The Temple stood between the Al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock. It was where the Roman horse statue was.

    • @gordonbarranger7683
      @gordonbarranger7683 2 роки тому +1

      @@ssv7195 In the city of David?

    • @Oxygen11115
      @Oxygen11115 2 роки тому

      God has promised those of you who have attained to faith and do righteous deeds that, of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, even as He caused [some of] those who lived before them to accede to it; and that, of a certainty, He will firmly establish for them the religion which He has been pleased to bestow on them; and that, of a certainty, He will cause their erstwhile state of fear to be replaced by a sense of security [seeing that] they worship Me [alone], not ascribing divine powers to aught beside Me. But all who, after [having understood] this, choose to deny the truth - it is they, they who are truly iniquitous

    • @markoktorides9972
      @markoktorides9972 2 роки тому

      The Turks did it to Hagia Sophia > the courts rule it to be a mosque again

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 2 роки тому +11

    Mel is a one man wrecking crew. Mel is crushing the SIN with irrefutable evidence. I’m happily surprised with every episode. Praise the Triune GOD for these revelations of truth. God bless and protect Mel and Dr. Jay

  • @rahimbinselamat3233
    @rahimbinselamat3233 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Mel and Dr Jay! This is interesting!

  • @bosna777
    @bosna777 2 роки тому +6

    Amazing! May the Lord Jesus Christ protect you and bless you!

  • @arwandajunior1122
    @arwandajunior1122 2 роки тому +7

    More oceans in the narrative, thanks Dr Jay and mell, no lies no Islam duuuuduuu😊😊

  • @christianfrommuslim
    @christianfrommuslim 2 роки тому +14

    Wow! What an amazing revelation!
    Muslims are deceived in so many ways. They need the Bible truth and the gospel. For videos on how to share these with them click on our green icon for a 2-minute intro.

  • @rockzalt
    @rockzalt 2 роки тому +5

    The absence of evidence also means how does a person date materials used in mosaics? Any person can look at one and the picture is associated with a time period but has anyone looked at materials which compose them? Most anyone who has watched Time Team would see that experienced archeologists can see a small shard of pottery and date it as well as where it came from.

    • @madgevanness4011
      @madgevanness4011 2 роки тому

      But that would not be permitted.

    • @rockzalt
      @rockzalt 2 роки тому

      @@madgevanness4011 Stranger things have happened. Archeologists found out where they were dumping the rubble from work being done on the temple mount. They went there and in the dirt they found artifacts.

    • @Oxygen11115
      @Oxygen11115 2 роки тому

      God has promised those of you who have attained to faith and do righteous deeds that, of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, even as He caused [some of] those who lived before them to accede to it; and that, of a certainty, He will firmly establish for them the religion which He has been pleased to bestow on them; and that, of a certainty, He will cause their erstwhile state of fear to be replaced by a sense of security [seeing that] they worship Me [alone], not ascribing divine powers to aught beside Me. But all who, after [having understood] this, choose to deny the truth - it is they, they who are truly iniquitous

  • @gebedzandvoort
    @gebedzandvoort 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Jay and Mel, in early Christian (Syriac) texts we find reference to (possible) the Dome of the Rock and the inscriptions inside the building.
    I quote G. J Reinink:
    "Three Syriac apocalyptic texts were composed in or shortly after 691/2, the date of the inscription inside the Dome of the Rock: the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius, the Edessene Apocalypse and the Gospel of the Twelve Apostles. Though there are textual and literary differences between these works, they agree in one most important aspect: the Arab rule is to be destroyed fairly soon by the highly idealized figure of the Christian emperor of Byzantium who, in a against the Muslim enemies of Christianity, will restore Christian authority over Jerusalem and establish a universal pax Christiana, which will last until the end of times. The strong religious overtones which these works have in common in relation to Jerusalem suggest that these texts are responding to quite recent historical developments affecting that city."
    Source:
    'Early Christian Reactions to the Building of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, G. J Reinink (2001). page 241.

    • @IslamicOrigins
      @IslamicOrigins 2 роки тому

      I don't see how inscriptions are implied..

    • @aaabrams1889
      @aaabrams1889 2 роки тому +1

      @@IslamicOrigins
      If inscriptions inside the Dome of the Rock is from 691/2 and eyewitnesses of the pilgrim Arculf who visited about 670. According to Arculf's account as recorded by Adomnán, he saw a rectangular wooden house of prayer built over some ruins, large enough to hold 3,000 people.
      And in 691 an octagonal Islamic building topped by a dome was built by the Caliph Abd al-Malik around the rock, how can you say; "The Dome is not mentioned until the 9th c."?

    • @IslamicOrigins
      @IslamicOrigins 2 роки тому

      @@aaabrams1889 You must not be paying close attention to the evidence. Where does Adomnan place it? Not over the rock but by the eastern gate. The ruins may be where the Romans had knocked down much of the Temple Mount in the 1st century, ie it doesn't necessarily mean the Rock foundation. And this "And in 691 an octagonal Islamic building topped by a dome was built by the Caliph Abd al-Malik" is the proposition under investigation. You don't seem to know the difference between making a claim and the evidence. We don't have anything until much later about the Dome of the Rock.

  • @chrishoff402
    @chrishoff402 2 роки тому +2

    There was a reference in the video to the Dome of the Rock being adjacent to the Dome of the Chain. It would be interesting to know how this affects the construction date for that little dome as well.

  • @dhardhirdruha6916
    @dhardhirdruha6916 2 роки тому +4

    Excellent evidence 👍

  • @jcmrob3723
    @jcmrob3723 2 роки тому +16

    Mel found out aboutt the mosaics round the dome
    If you follow who's supplied the mosaics at the beginning didn't have the shahada on the dome
    because it was a Christian church and the mosaics was made by the Armenian family called
    (Ohannessian) Christian
    And the wakef found out
    That the mosaics was made by Christians Armenians in Jerusalem
    Decided to take it down and replace it with a Turkish Ottomans Islamic supplier
    Little they knew that the
    Manufacturer in turkey were also Armenians Christian Turkish, the only one at that times had the
    Skills and the experience
    How to make mosaics tiles, good luck in your research, I hope this be a
    Help to you...

    • @markoktorides9972
      @markoktorides9972 2 роки тому +3

      Blue mosque in Istanbul Turkey was design by a Armenian Christian < the sultan wanted it to look like Hagia Sophia but bigger n grander > just like the stain windows and titles > I bet it was an Armenian > this was design in the 17 century .

  • @gregash7683
    @gregash7683 2 роки тому +2

    After the Third Jewish Revolt (Bar Kokba) in 132-136, all Jews were expelled from Jerusalem, the city renamed Aelia Capitolia, and a temple to Jupiter was erected. Was that temple on Temple Mount? How long did it last? Did that structure become apart of the 'Temple of Solomon (synagogue) for Saracen Jews' centuries later? When did expelled Jews recover the Temple Mount after the fall of Rome in the east? Would any observant Jew consider building such a structure over the rock where the Holy of Holies originally existed?

  • @bestKaffir.underTheSon
    @bestKaffir.underTheSon 2 роки тому +5

    Mel, the Dome of the Rock inscriptions are without diacritical marks.
    If the Dome building was only build after 870, then when was diacritical marks introduced?
    Muslims claim that Arabic was the 1st language that introduced it.
    Generally it is accepted that diacritical marks in Arabic, are from the 9th century, but now it appears to be much later.

  • @StFrancis9
    @StFrancis9 2 роки тому +5

    Thankyou Jay for giving some family background because I am lost with these names… any historical books you can recommend on the history of these families and the ummayids?

  • @ShauraveNath
    @ShauraveNath 3 місяці тому

    Jay and Mel love you and thank you From Bangladesh
    God bless both of you 🙏

  • @joshbeaulieu7408
    @joshbeaulieu7408 2 роки тому

    I find it quite charming how you guys take the time to try and make it look like you are sitting together. I laugh when I picture Mel just talking to a blank wall though, 😆

  • @seanmacsweeney2985
    @seanmacsweeney2985 2 роки тому +1

    AJ Deus says “But one thing stands out with the temple depiction: it is not Muslim and not Christian but distinctively Jewish.” So it looks like Red Judaism is correct, whatever eventually ended up on the Temple Mount was directed at the Jews

  • @davidblagic5881
    @davidblagic5881 Рік тому +1

    Interesting proposition, however, I'll have to disagree. The term 'synagogue' is not a Jewish term, but a Greek one, and it just means 'a place of gathering'. The term was first applied to a Jewish religious object/institution by the Jewish diaspora in Greco-Roman times. However, we still see the term used even by Christians for their places of gathering (e.g. Ignatius of Antioch). You cannot expect from a 9th century monk pilgrim to be using modern terminology - he could not have called the building a "mosque" or "masjid", the only term he knew of was 'synagogon' - a place of (religious) gathering. And imo, the name is adequate.
    Also, I have the feeling that you guys are thinking in modern categories. Today, the government may try to propagate its agenda via mass media, television, internet, books, and so on. However, in the ancient times, very little people were literate. Writing a 'propaganda document' to manipulate the general populace to believe that a dozen year old building is somehow ancient would be ridiculous in the 9th century. It would have affected only a handful of educated people that had contact with the document. It would have had 0 effect on the popular opinion.
    Anyways, keep up the good work.

  • @chattcedric6321
    @chattcedric6321 2 роки тому +1

    It's really good to have such a thorough Research on this Topic. And I guess it would also be better to establish the Dates of Birth and Death of Abdul Malik whom the SIN tried to relate the building of the Dome to him. Because according to Wikipedia, Abdul Malik's Death was in 705AD. But when a Christian Monk visited the place in 870AD there was no Dome at all. There goes the problem. Which is which? More research so all peoples may know the TRUTH instead of the LIES of SIN.

  • @yz2760
    @yz2760 2 роки тому +1

    Mel has the nose of a great hunting dog, when he gets the scent, his prey is doomed!

  • @ge7167
    @ge7167 2 роки тому +2

    When the building belonged to a thousand years ago and it has been built or located in Jerusalem, it was literally a synagogue which is written in the old testament, "the Solomon's Temple".

    • @alonzoharris6730
      @alonzoharris6730 2 роки тому

      There was no temple of Solomon on the mount.

    • @johnseventhday9145
      @johnseventhday9145 2 роки тому +7

      @@alonzoharris6730 abdul take a hike and dont worry there will be more videos debuking islam even more

    • @daduzadude1547
      @daduzadude1547 2 роки тому +3

      @@alonzoharris6730 So the entire Torah is false?
      Oh, wait, all the archeological evidence means nothing compared to the knowledge of the Great Alonso!

    • @alonzoharris6730
      @alonzoharris6730 2 роки тому

      @@daduzadude1547
      There is no archeological evidence.
      There is no historical evidence for the temple of Solomon in Jerusalem. Not a single rock is found.
      Mel should start with the Christian Standard narrative first.😊
      There were no camels in the Levant in the time of Abraham or Moses.
      Camels were only found in What is now Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Eastern Arabia.
      The bible claims that there were camels in Arabia. Abraham was in Arabia and not in the Levant.
      The Chaldean didn't exist in the time of Moses either. They translated Kasdim as Chaldeans.
      The Chaldeans only came after 900 bce. Moses lived in 1400 bce. Abraham lived in 2000 bce.
      There is a lot of deception going on with translations into Greek and English.
      The Hebrews are from Yemen and not from the Levant.
      The deception started with the translation of the Canaanite text into Greek with the Septaguint in Alexandria. They started to make Egypt and the Levant the centre of the OT stories with made up translations.
      River became Nile.🤔
      It's also assumed that UrShalim (Jerusalem) is always the same city in the OT. That's totally false.
      It simply means the city of peace.
      The earliest historical record of Jerusalem is from an Arab king called Abdi Heba in the Amarna letters.
      There is zero archaeological evidence for the temple of Solomon.
      It's even funnier that nobody ever documented a temple there. Alexander the Great never heard of it. The later stories of Josephus are all legends. The clown wrote that the pagan Roman Flavius leaders healed people.
      The Greeks passed through that strategic area and made Egypt the centre of their kingdom. No mention of a temple or Jerusalem. Nothing is found.
      The biblical Jesus says in Matthew 24 that no stone will be left.
      Josephus the Roman propagandist wrote that the temple was completely destroyed.
      Eusebius wrote that the temple was completely destroyed.
      There is no evidence found of one single piece of a Roman fortress where the Romans stayed in Jerusalem? Do you know why? Because the temple mount was the Roman fortress.😁
      It has exactly the same shape as other Roman fortresses. It has the same dimensions. One example is not far away. The Roman fortress of Masada has the same dimensions.
      Something fishy is going on.
      Thank you Mel. You inspired me to a do a deep dive into the bible.👍🏼
      Where in Jerusalem was the 10th Roman legion? The Standard Christian Narrative is that it's a tiny small building outside the temple mount. The 10th Roman legion was at least 6000 men soldiers. We should count at least 3000 more which makes it almost 10000.
      10000 people in a tiny building is impossible. It's a joke to believe that the Romans would give the Jews an entire strategic mount and they take in a small building outside the wall lol.
      The Romans are not stupid. The Wall is a Roman wall. It's the most strategic location in the city for soldiers. That's what the Romans did in every location. They build fortresses with wall on strategic locations.
      Can you do a deep dive into this Mel?😊
      The Encyclopaedia Judica, which was published in 1971, mentioned that the Jewish claim of sanctity for the Wailing Wall, which is located within the perimeters of al-Aqsa mosque, only appeared for the first time after 1500 A.D, and no evidence is found of this before.

    • @daduzadude1547
      @daduzadude1547 2 роки тому +3

      @@alonzoharris6730 just noticed you deleted your post. Did you realize how stupid it was?

  • @oleo.stimes6525
    @oleo.stimes6525 2 роки тому +1

    The deeper the dive, the shallower the story.
    Keep diving!

  • @Lancet75
    @Lancet75 2 роки тому +2

    If the inscriptions in the Dome are so late, why do they have an archaic Christological content?

    • @IslamicOrigins
      @IslamicOrigins 2 роки тому

      For that we need to turn to events happening in the 16th century, when a new prophet wannabe proposed a new synthesis of Christianity and Islam. Coming up later...

    • @Oxygen11115
      @Oxygen11115 2 роки тому

      92:1 CONSIDER the night as it veils [the earth] in darkness
      92:2 and the day as it rises bright
      92:3 Consider the creation of the male and the female
      92:4 Verily, [O men,] you aim at most divergent ends
      92:5 Thus, as for him who gives [to others] and is conscious of God
      92:6 and believes in the truth of the ultimate good
      92:7 for him shall We make easy the path towards [ultimate] ease
      92:8 But as for him who is niggardly, and thinks that he is self-sufficient
      92:9 and calls the ultimate good a lie -
      92:10 for him shall We make easy the path towards hardship
      92:11 and what will his wealth avail him when he goes down [to his grave]
      92:12 BEHOLD, it is indeed for Us to grace [you] with guidance
      92:13 and, behold, Ours is [the dominion over] the life to come as well as [over] this earlier part [of your life]
      92:14 and so I warn you of the raging fire
      92:15 [the fire] which none shall have to endure but that most hapless wretc
      92:16 who gives the lie to the truth and turns away [from it]
      92:17 For, distant from it shall remain he who is truly conscious of God
      92:18 he that spends his possessions [on others] so that he might grow in purity -
      92:19 not as payment for favours received
      92:20 but only out of a longing for the countenance of his Sustainer, the All-Highest
      92:21 and such, indeed, shall in time be well-pleased

    • @Lancet75
      @Lancet75 2 роки тому

      @@IslamicOrigins Are you the Hitchcock or the Stephen King of Islamic archeology?

    • @Lancet75
      @Lancet75 2 роки тому

      @@Oxygen11115 Oh how brilliant you are!
      Copying and pasting Surah 92!
      Wow! Congrats!

    • @IslamicOrigins
      @IslamicOrigins 2 роки тому

      @@Lancet75 Id like to be the Sherlock Holmes maybe. But Hitchcock if that's the choice.

  • @timelord5920
    @timelord5920 2 роки тому +1

    Does anyone know much about A J Deus? Does he have any academic credentials? I can’t find much about him online. He rarely cites other academics, preferring to reference his other writings. This particular thesis is highly polemical from the start and seems to make the evidence fit his narrative, not the other way around. He may be correct but it’s certainly difficult to take any of his work seriously. I believe Thomas will be presenting an alternative in a more scholarly fashion.

    • @krzysztofciuba271
      @krzysztofciuba271 2 роки тому

      who is A J Deus? Joes' Red Judaism? More: do you have a (divine) mind (@Holy Spirit or not? I you have ONE argument contra, and not 100 of "noble" experts (A. Einstein's contra his opponents:"Subtle is the Lord but not malicious" ) are ....worthless. Here, I have Perfect Proof on BS interpretation in ALL(almost) textbooks and articles of the time parameter in Einstein's-Lorentz-Minkowskian equation@diagram!!! (Even in this coming week I could publish in NP but for ...$ 4.500. I am waiting finally for a physicist (who is not afraid of truth) to make a re-proof reading (and I am still polishing just details but....).You see you go Univ. Library, listen Univ. Professors and see a...confusion! Of course: Hollywood's Production supported by TV EXperts-PhD's physicists is going to...bankruptcy!!!(S.Caroll finally has ..got it and now is simply ...silent but not others on BBC, CNN, I wrote to NYT Editorial@physicist and others): my "malicious" comment contr BBC's B.Cox disappeared from the web in...5 minutes (but I have a copy of it on my computer!); the same with CBC: my comment- a citation of UN IPCC "expert" from AD 1989 about the Apocalypse in AD ...1999 was blocked in a few seconds!

  • @bobfisher1909
    @bobfisher1909 2 роки тому

    Found this article, I say you can take some references from it, the dates and people maybe wrong due to the sin.
    As the site for a future temple, David chose Mount Moriah, or the Temple Mount, where it was believed Abraham had built the altar on which to sacrifice his son Isaac. The First Temple was constructed during the reign of David's son, Solomon, and completed in 957 BC.
    It was apparently Abd al-Malik himself who began the work of replacing the nearby wooden structure built by Umar with the magnificent silver-domed stone mosque Al Aqsa. Its construction was to be completed by his son, Caliph Al-Walid I, in the beginning of the 8th century.
    The area was claimed by the waqf as a space that served in earlier Islamic periods as a place of prayer, but some saw the move as a part of a "political agenda" and a "pretext" for the Islamization of the underground space, and believed it had been instigated to prevent the site being used a synagogue for Jewish
    Just what was it that the Knights Templar found beneath the ruins of Solomon’s Temple? Was it a vast amount of buried treasure? Was it the location of the Ark of the Covenant? Or was it, as some firmly believe to this day, the Holy Grail?
    Believed to be constructed around the mid-10th Century BCE on an elevated area of ground in Jerusalem that would later come to be known as Temple Mount, Solomon’s Temple was said to be Phoenician in design. A magnificent, white marble and gold-covered building, the temple contained three chambers consisting of an outer vestibule, the main chamber and the ‘Holy of Holies’. The Holy of Holies was a small antechamber at the back of the temple where the Ark of the Covenant was traditionally thought to be kept. The Ark, as any Indiana Jones aficionado will tell you, contained two stone tablets on which were written the Ten Commandments. The jury’s still out on whether it also contained face-melting avenging angels.
    At the entrance to the temple stood two twenty-seven-foot-high brass pillars adorned with ornately decorated capitals. The pillars were known as Boaz and Jachin, and they stood either side of the door that led to the temple’s vestibule. Replicas of Boaz and Jachin - which in Hebrew mean ‘In Him is strength’ and ‘He will establish’ respectively - can be found in most Masonic lodges. Hiram Abiff, the chief architect of the temple, is an important figure in Freemasonry, and the order’s lodges are referred to as ‘temples’ in honor of Abiff’s greatest creation.
    The Temple of Solomon was not just a place of worship, but also one of ritual animal sacrifice and bizarre practices such as ‘sacred prostitution’, where pilgrims could pay to use the services of temple prostitutes who would ‘cleanse’ them of their sins by partaking in religiously sanctioned sexual intercourse. Sacred prostitution has been called into doubt by some historians who dispute the practice ever took place.
    The temple met its end in 587 BCE when the armies of King Nebuchadnezzar II besieged the city of Jerusalem. The city was razed to the ground and the temple, which had stood for nearly five hundred years, was completely destroyed. The Ark of the Covenant has never seen again, had it ever existed in the first place.
    A second, much more modest temple arose from the ashes of the first in 516 BCE. This temple would be vastly altered and turned into a huge and magnificent temple complex by Herod the Great, the king who is perhaps best known from his appearance in the Bible wherein he orders the so-called ‘Massacre of the Innocents’ at the time of the birth of Jesus Christ. Herod’s temple would eventually be destroyed by the Roman Empire in 70 BCE in retaliation for the Jewish Revolt that saw most of Jerusalem - the second temple included - reduced to rubble.
    Following the end of Roman rule, the Temple Mount and the ruins of the second temple were used as a huge rubbish dump for the next six hundred years. It wasn’t until the city was in Muslim hands under Caliph Abd al-Malik that the site was cleared in order that a mosque could be built in 691 CE. The mosque, known as the Dome of the Rock, would eventually be joined by the nearby Al-Aqsa mosque, completed in 705 CE. The Dome of the Rock famously stands over the Foundation Stone - a huge slab of rough bedrock on which the Jews believe Abraham attempted to sacrifice his son Isaac. It was over this stone that the Muslims built their mosque. Today, the Dome of the Rock is the third holiest shrine in Islam after Mecca and Medina.

    • @annemurphy9339
      @annemurphy9339 2 роки тому +1

      Without lies, islam dies, proven yet again.

  • @thumbstruck
    @thumbstruck 2 роки тому +2

    Religious narrative takes hold quickly: look at the various ideas from the "2nd Great Awakening" - forms of Mormonism, Adventism, Dispensationalism, etc, becoming major religious forms that for many, are unquestioned.

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 2 роки тому

      origin of Islam seems similar to the origin of Mormonism.

    • @aaabrams1889
      @aaabrams1889 2 роки тому

      @@fantasia55
      The origins of Pagan Pauline Xtianity which modern day Xtians follow is from Lucifer, not the Real Jesus.

  • @trevorgriffiths5611
    @trevorgriffiths5611 2 роки тому +17

    Even with Lies Islam dies ..

  • @zoeashes6347
    @zoeashes6347 2 роки тому +1

    The evidence of the Dome of the Rock will destroy the SIN ... by and by ... when everything about it and its inscriptions is fully uncovered ... Mo, the book, and the place ... of the SIN ... are all crumbling under the gaze of brighter and brighter historical light ...

  • @zealotChristians
    @zealotChristians 2 роки тому

    💫🙋‍♀️🙋‍♂️⛪ The true history of Islam is going to be revealed soon. Thank to Jay and Mel. 🙏

  • @Islamisthecultofsin
    @Islamisthecultofsin 4 місяці тому

    Maybe the inscriptions were removed from the temple before they demolished it and rebuilt it and put them back in place.

  • @charlesco7413
    @charlesco7413 2 роки тому +1

    They dont seem to care about the sacrificial stone either.

  • @tarnos4153
    @tarnos4153 2 роки тому

    I wish you guys discuss Mahomet’s “miraj” visit on a “buroq” to the “mosque” before his demise.

  • @dineshsham91
    @dineshsham91 2 роки тому +4

    Super

    • @kennethnystrom593
      @kennethnystrom593 2 роки тому +1

      Idea.
      Perhaps add upp how many weak points you have found thus far with the SIN connected to the first 300 years and then compile a list of strong points for the first 300 years according to the SIN
      And as the SIN is suspected to be not accurate.
      That would imply that also the strong points are not accurate.
      =Get rid of any notion anything about those first 300 years are accurate.
      And from there take a closer look at the "strong" sources for the SIN and point out how old those sources really are. (confirmed age, not the assumed age.)
      As it is now its bit hard to get a collective grasp on how weak or strong the SIN really are.
      Basicly.
      There are for sure reasons to question the individual "facts" for the first 300 years.
      But some can see past individual "facts" being inaccurate for several reasons. (One being; for the greater good).
      However if one compile an easy to overview chart or in this case video, say an timelapse of stuff verified/confirmed/ in line with/ from the SIN.
      That would leave an white map of only conquests but no in line "facts" for the SIN for a very long time.
      I personly would had made such a thing myself but my knowledge of the SIN is to small.
      And it should be updated as time moves forward on say a montly basis as it is obvious new questions arise all the time.
      ("State of the month for the SIN")
      =this awareness on how much about the early Islam that really is in question could disarm even the most diehard devote that normally would overlook a or a few "discontinuities" as something that is to be expected as time moves on.
      But to visualy be able to see how much (or little) that is in question could wake that thought.
      "Hang on a minute, is the state of the SIN really that weak?"
      And now wer talking about verified/confirmed/in line.
      add ontop of that in a second stage videos like this to that are more into details.

  • @sandyssonstuhr7174
    @sandyssonstuhr7174 2 роки тому

    Are we sure there wasn't a political element to Bernard 's visit to Jerusalem? Was he sent there by a higher authority?

  • @salancy3279
    @salancy3279 2 роки тому +4

    💐✝️💐🙏❤️👍

  • @ishtarlew598
    @ishtarlew598 2 роки тому +6

    All you need to say to any Muslim is, Prove it.

    • @johnseventhday9145
      @johnseventhday9145 2 роки тому +5

      exactly they boast about their chain of narration but when asked how we can trust it they go silent.

    • @ishtarlew598
      @ishtarlew598 2 роки тому +2

      @@johnseventhday9145 Then they act like only Muslims had a chain of narrative.

    • @alonzoharris6730
      @alonzoharris6730 2 роки тому

      @@johnseventhday9145
      Christianity is build on oral tradition.
      The muslim oral tradition is million times superior.

    • @johnseventhday9145
      @johnseventhday9145 2 роки тому +3

      @@alonzoharris6730 well you can say billion times too but that doesn't change the fact that Christianity has manuscript evidences not hearsays we have scriptures dating before christ which affirms the new testament narrative the HOLY BIBLE puts your koo wrong to shame and by the way why are you misuing shia scholars in your comments?

    • @alonzoharris6730
      @alonzoharris6730 2 роки тому

      @@johnseventhday9145
      Are you serious?
      You have almost nothing in manuscript evidence from the first two centuries.
      We have 97% of the Quran in manuscripts from the 7th century.
      I hope you realise that manuscripts depend on an oral reading tradition? How do you know what these words mean in manuscripts? Who has transmitted that knowledge and words in Christianity?
      How do you know the same word used 300 years later has the same meaning as 300 years earlier?
      The reality is that Christianity can only dream of the method of preservation of islam. Text, word, sounds ans meaning all have transmission.
      If you claim to follow only manuscripts. You should leave Christianity. There can't be anything found in the first century.

  • @pierrenemolander4446
    @pierrenemolander4446 2 роки тому

    When I was in Turkey 🇹🇷 I saw Moslem Mosque that was "printed over" covered up text by "Arabic" which I Found Very Strange??????????? Mel and Jay???????

  • @judahsamaria5250
    @judahsamaria5250 2 роки тому +1

    This new evidence destroys the SIN. There is no way in getting around it historically. We need to keep in mind historically, after the Jewish temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD the Romans continue to desecrate the Temple Mount area by putting the Temple of Jupiter on the very site of the Jewish temple. Is there any remains of the temple of Jupiter?

    • @aaabrams1889
      @aaabrams1889 2 роки тому +1

      Not forgetting that the Xtians desecrated that area further by making it a RUBBISH DUMP and if not for the Muslims who cleaned up that rubbish site and excavated the Foundation Stone and honored it by building a DOME over it for future generation - that site would have been worse,

  • @catholicorthodoxfaith2689
    @catholicorthodoxfaith2689 2 роки тому

    Soofiyan family took name from Mount Safa (Scopus). The diacritical mark made the Sa into Soo. Marwanids got name from Mount Marwa (Moriya).

  • @ferrykar9819
    @ferrykar9819 2 роки тому

    So, if it is true that the Dome was built in the 9th century, would the word "Muhammad" refer to the islamic prophet, NOT Jesus? as the so-called "Muhammad, the prophet" was also created by the Abbassid during the same era?

  • @Louis.R
    @Louis.R 2 роки тому

    Read René Girard on how culture develops, and why critics of false innovations "don't exist".

  • @Honey1xyz
    @Honey1xyz 2 роки тому

    It used to be a PALACE

  • @aaabrams1889
    @aaabrams1889 2 роки тому +1

    “In insult towards the sons of Israel” the Greeks had converted the unhewn stone into a dunghill. The zealous Caliph, to whom this Rock was “the very first corner that was created of the whole earth,” set the example in cleansing it. He scooped up the filth, and carried it away in his robe. In this act he was warmly imitated by his officers. Then employing the “nabadhæi of Palestine,” the order was removed to the neighboring valley, outside the city, and the sacred site purified and sanctified. Around this rock ‘Omar built his mosque, the Mosque of ‘Omar, which later gave way to its celebrated successor, the present Dome of the Rock.
    “On this spot where the Temple once stood, near the eastern wall, the Saracens have now erected a square house of prayer, in a rough manner, by raising beams and planks upon some remains of old ruins; this is their place of worship, and it is said it will hold some three thousand men.”
    Source: Jacob de Haas. History of Palestine: The Last Two Thousand Years. (p. 133); This is the first description of ‘Omar’s mosque, written by Bishop Arculf, who visited Jerusalem in the reign of Mu’awiya (657-705).

  • @EricTirado
    @EricTirado 2 роки тому

    You both need to use matching background images so it looks like you are together even more. You guys keep fooling me when you look at each other.

  • @eleazerdodo2642
    @eleazerdodo2642 2 роки тому

    so good

  • @Flumstead
    @Flumstead 2 роки тому

    Mecca multi storey car park temple........ brilliant.

  • @charlesmason-brown4502
    @charlesmason-brown4502 Рік тому

    Here is another example of how you can change the social narrative: Iğdır Genocide Memorial and Museum

  • @dereksewkumar07
    @dereksewkumar07 2 роки тому

    "Good. Work ..job Well done 😇
    d 🤕🗺🇪🇺💜

  • @aaabrams1889
    @aaabrams1889 2 роки тому +1

    In 637 Muslim Arabs besieged and captured the city from the Byzantine Empire, which had defeated the Persian forces and their allies, and reconquered the city and cleared the rubbish from the Temple Mount and built the main Islamic buildings on the mount.
    The Rashidun Caliph Umar was led to the place reluctantly by the Christian patriarch Sophronius. He found it covered with rubbish, but the sacred Rock was found with the help of a converted Jew, Ka'b al-Ahbar.
    Al-Ahbar advised Umar to build a mosque to the north of the rock, so that worshippers would face both the rock and Mecca, but instead Umar chose to build it to the south of the rock. It became known as the Al-Aqsa Mosque. According to Muslim sources, Jews participated in the construction of the haram, laying the groundwork for both the Al-Aqsa and Dome of the Rock mosques.
    The first known eyewitness testimony is that of the pilgrim Arculf who visited about 670. According to Arculf's account as recorded by Adomnán, he saw a rectangular wooden house of prayer built over some ruins, large enough to hold 3,000 people.
    In 691 an octagonal Islamic building topped by a dome was built by the Caliph Abd al-Malik around the rock, for a myriad of political, dynastic and religious reasons, built on local and Quranic traditions articulating the site's holiness, a process in which textual and architectural narratives reinforced one another. The shrine became known as the Dome of the Rock (قبة الصخرة, Qubbat as-Sakhra). (The dome itself was covered in gold in 1920.)
    In 715 the Umayyads, led by the Caliph al-Walid I, built the Aqsa Mosque (المسجد الأقصى, al-Masjid al-Aqsa, lit. "Furthest Mosque"), corresponding to the Islamic belief of Muhammad's miraculous nocturnal journey as recounted in the Quran and hadith. The term "Noble Sanctuary" or "Haram al-Sharif", as it was called later by the Mamluks and Ottomans, refers to the whole area that surrounds that Rock.

  • @BijoyP-h2l
    @BijoyP-h2l Рік тому

    We all Christians need to get back our previous church invaded by Islamic empires.

  • @commontree3285
    @commontree3285 2 роки тому +8

    Stop pretending to look at each other, it's weird!

    • @sishrac
      @sishrac 2 роки тому +5

      Agreed! Just so ironic especially given the fact that they're exposing lies!

    • @blacklisted4885
      @blacklisted4885 2 роки тому +1

      @@sishrac Exposing historical documents you nutter

    • @blacklisted4885
      @blacklisted4885 2 роки тому +2

      They use 2 monitors. One with the stream, the other with the documents. Not pretending anything

    • @terrenceappleby9315
      @terrenceappleby9315 2 роки тому +3

      And THIS is what you take away from these presentations? 🤔

    • @sishrac
      @sishrac 2 роки тому

      @@blacklisted4885
      Quote: "They use 2 monitors. One with the stream, the other with the documents. Not pretending anything"
      What! You're denying the gimmick used?
      It may be funny at first but if you're serious about the material and the repercussions, the gimmick has to stop.

  • @cascarrabias397
    @cascarrabias397 2 роки тому

    Personally I think the Shahada: "There is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God."
    Is telling us the whole concept of the UNITARIOS or NONE TRINITARIANS, Nestorians, Arians are screaming us all along.
    THERE IS ONE GOD AND THE PRAISED ONE IS ONLY HIS MESSENGER.
    I see it very clear.

  • @aaabrams1889
    @aaabrams1889 2 роки тому +2

    THE DOME OF THE ROCK
    is a eyesore for Non-Muslims as it dominates all of Jerusalem.
    One of the most iconic images of the Middle East - shimmering in the setting sun of Jerusalem. Sitting atop the Haram al-Sharif, the highest point in old Jerusalem, the Dome of the Rock’s golden-color Dome and Turkish Faience tiles dominates the cityscape of Old Jerusalem and in the 7th century served as a testament to the power of Islam.
    Its Arabic inscriptions, which present a selection of Qurʾānic passages and paraphrases, emphasize the unity of God (tawḥīd) and reject the Xtian doctrines of the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus.

    • @annemurphy9339
      @annemurphy9339 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed, it is an abomination with no right to be in YHVH’s holy city.

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 2 роки тому +1

      The golden dome was constructed in the 19th century.

    • @aaabrams1889
      @aaabrams1889 2 роки тому +1

      @@annemurphy9339
      God allowed the Dome of the Rock and Masjid Al-Aqsa on that Holy Precinct instead of the Jewish Temple.

    • @aaabrams1889
      @aaabrams1889 2 роки тому +1

      @@fantasia55
      GET YOURSELF EDUCATED
      as you are making a fool of yourself...ha ha ha
      In 637 Muslim Arabs besieged and captured the city from the Byzantine Empire, which had defeated the Persian forces and their allies, and reconquered the city and cleared the rubbish from the Temple Mount and built the main Islamic buildings on the mount.
      The Rashidun Caliph Umar was led to the place reluctantly by the Christian patriarch Sophronius. He found it covered with rubbish, but the sacred Rock was found with the help of a converted Jew, Ka'b al-Ahbar.
      Al-Ahbar advised Umar to build a mosque to the north of the rock, so that worshippers would face both the rock and Mecca, but instead Umar chose to build it to the south of the rock. It became known as the Al-Aqsa Mosque. According to Muslim sources, Jews participated in the construction of the haram, laying the groundwork for both the Al-Aqsa and Dome of the Rock mosques.
      The first known eyewitness testimony is that of the pilgrim Arculf who visited about 670. According to Arculf's account as recorded by Adomnán, he saw a rectangular wooden house of prayer built over some ruins, large enough to hold 3,000 people.
      In 691 an octagonal Islamic building topped by a dome was built by the Caliph Abd al-Malik around the rock, for a myriad of political, dynastic and religious reasons, built on local and Quranic traditions articulating the site's holiness, a process in which textual and architectural narratives reinforced one another. The shrine became known as the Dome of the Rock (قبة الصخرة, Qubbat as-Sakhra). (The dome itself was covered in gold in 1920.)
      In 715 the Umayyads, led by the Caliph al-Walid I, built the Aqsa Mosque (المسجد الأقصى, al-Masjid al-Aqsa, lit. "Furthest Mosque"), corresponding to the Islamic belief of Muhammad's miraculous nocturnal journey as recounted in the Quran and hadith. The term "Noble Sanctuary" or "Haram al-Sharif", as it was called later by the Mamluks and Ottomans, refers to the whole area that surrounds that Rock.

    • @annemurphy9339
      @annemurphy9339 2 роки тому

      @@aaabrams1889 On that I agree as only YHVH God controls Israel and everything in it. He has allowed this as part of His plan to show all of Israel and the entire world that He alone is God: the Bible very accurately predicts the confederation that will come against Israel, and how their invading horde will be absolutely & completely decimated by YHVH. He will reconcile Israel again unto Himself, and has set aside the last week of years to do just that. Many Bible scholars believe this prophetic period will begin this fall.

  • @Pax-Africana
    @Pax-Africana 2 роки тому

    Jesus is Muhammad(the Praised-One), fool. A point was made but you guys missed it altogether due your poor reading skills.
    But the adults in the room know that Muhammad is not a given name but a substitute title, a euphemism for Christ/Messiah. Since Jesus is said to be that Christ, then Jesus is Muhammad.
    We make the difference between Islam and the Arab-Qureishites propaganda contained in the Hadiths, and the "Sira Rassul Allah," etc...
    That marketing gimmick was meant to capitalize on the pilgrimage to Mekka and not as historical facts. Kaabahism therefore is not Islam!
    We also know that when someone writes a Constitution like the Constitution of Medina, receive embassies, passes legislations, proclaims a tax Codes, raises an armies, signs treaties, etc... with some neighborhood nations, that person is in a role of a Founding Father like George Washington, Caesar Augustus or Alexander the Great, etc... We don't take the word "Prophet" in the literal sense.
    So, If you have ever wondered why a substitute title was needed for Jesus and a name shifting for the Arabian Founding Father, here you have it:
    "Your people don't want to hear about Jesus. And when His name is mentioned, lo! your people burst into clamor thereby..."
    create an OPTICAL ILLUSION:
    We(the Children of Israel) send you, O Abu Quasim, among your own people so that they may believe in ournGod and His Messiah/Muhammad/Christ/Al-Massih, help Him, praise Him(Muhammad/the Praised-One), sing for Him evening and morning...."
    "Remember when Jesus asked, "who will assist me in the way of God? The disciples replied: 'we shall be the helpers of God. Bear witness we are Muslims.'"
    By the way, According to Acts 11:26 is a Christian he who believes Jesus to be the Messiah, that is to say Christ, foretold by Moses in the Torah but rejected by Israel.
    "I will send the Christ/Messiah, a Prophet/Messenger like you Moses, Him, they must listen...." Deut.18:15-19
    The word CHRISTIAN was coined in Antioch of Syria and not in Athens, Rome, or Boston.
    In that sense, Muslims are Christians because for Islam Jesus is the Christ announced in the Law and the Prophets, born of the Virgin Mary. You may as well check the Transfiguration in Matthew 17:1-13 where Jesus "oversees" a meeting between Moses the Lawgiver and someone who would ratify the same Law for the Arabs(the descendants of Ishmael). In Genesis, Abraham was promised many Princes for Ishmael.
    So the Muslims are Christians certainly not of Paul's Tradition, yet still Christians but the Americans are not...
    Every American should know, then, that If Jesus is Lord, it stands to reason that Nature's god is NOT.
    Yet, Nature's god in the Jefferson Bible and in the so-called 'Declaration Of Independence" claims just that...
    And this is the official position of the American government because Thomas Jefferson was the 3rd President of the United States and is the one who penned the so-called "declaration of independence" which became the Law of the land in the Constitution.
    Nature's god in the Jefferson Bible inspired the "Bill Of rights" and specially the First Amendment which states that every religion under nature is as valid as the next; this is why polytheism and Idol worship enjoy special protection under Natural Law which pushed out Canonical Law or Sharia Law.
    Nature's god states that Jesus did not resurrect because there is no such thing as resurrection of the dead; men die and worms take care of their bodies and that, most surely, wild dogs took care of Jesus' body.
    Nature's god claims that there is no supernatural, no miracles, no virginal birth, no revealed Law since Laws are a construct of societies and each society makes its own laws in accordance with its need.
    That the Ten Commandments were not revealed and are no better than the Law of Hammurabi.
    For Thomas Jefferson, the Apostle of Nature's god, Nature's god instituted government on earth to distribute rights without responsibity: right to liberty from morality, right to pursue happiness, happiness for all(We wonder how government will enforce happiness which is not a tangible good), and right to life...
    Paul, Jesus-Christ's Apostle to the "Pax Romana," on other hand instructed us that Government was instituted on earth by God to keep order, render Justice for the equality of the Children of God in view of the Last Judgment.
    Nature's god insists that Life stops here and that there is NO immortality: "Let's eat and drink for tomorrow we die, and nothing awaits us after death. Don't be missing out..."
    Jesus said man was born corrupted and can purify himself with the means God put at his disposal.
    Nature's god however holds that man was born perfect but got corrupted by government.
    We wonder If all the jails built across their lands are only for members of government.
    Nature's god is truly Satan who set out to contradict the True God on every single line!
    So If you are an American you should worry about the subversive nature of the American founding documents, America's Nature's god, and the fate of your impious founding fathers who worked hard to mislead mankind away from the Gospel.
    Enough of that circular reasoning.
    Please worry not about Islam; it has been around for more than 1000 years. I am just wondering If America would be around that long...!!!

  • @simonfalk1337
    @simonfalk1337 2 роки тому

    Wasn't the Jerusalem temple destroyed in AD 70? Well before Muhammad was supposedly born. Why do these chronicles talk about a Temple?

  • @sishrac
    @sishrac 2 роки тому

    Intriguing! Also can't help imagining how all this can be aiding the cause of some Z__nists waiting to rebuild another temple on that mount.

    • @blacklisted4885
      @blacklisted4885 2 роки тому

      That's irrelevant. They can't help what goals a few seething, insane Zio*ists have for that piece of land

    • @sishrac
      @sishrac 2 роки тому

      @@blacklisted4885
      I'm in the business of connecting the dots so no, it's not irrelevant imo.

    • @blacklisted4885
      @blacklisted4885 2 роки тому

      @@sishrac Then I connect you to Nazi Party ok yah. Dot to dot lol. Don't be so dumb. There is zero evidence of zionism in any of these videos. I support Palestine myself

    • @Oxygen11115
      @Oxygen11115 2 роки тому

      92:1 CONSIDER the night as it veils [the earth] in darkness
      92:2 and the day as it rises bright
      92:3 Consider the creation of the male and the female
      92:4 Verily, [O men,] you aim at most divergent ends
      92:5 Thus, as for him who gives [to others] and is conscious of God
      92:6 and believes in the truth of the ultimate good
      92:7 for him shall We make easy the path towards [ultimate] ease
      92:8 But as for him who is niggardly, and thinks that he is self-sufficient
      92:9 and calls the ultimate good a lie -
      92:10 for him shall We make easy the path towards hardship
      92:11 and what will his wealth avail him when he goes down [to his grave]
      92:12 BEHOLD, it is indeed for Us to grace [you] with guidance
      92:13 and, behold, Ours is [the dominion over] the life to come as well as [over] this earlier part [of your life]
      92:14 and so I warn you of the raging fire
      92:15 [the fire] which none shall have to endure but that most hapless wretc
      92:16 who gives the lie to the truth and turns away [from it]
      92:17 For, distant from it shall remain he who is truly conscious of God
      92:18 he that spends his possessions [on others] so that he might grow in purity -
      92:19 not as payment for favours received
      92:20 but only out of a longing for the countenance of his Sustainer, the All-Highest
      92:21 and such, indeed, shall in time be well-pleased

    • @Oxygen11115
      @Oxygen11115 2 роки тому

      God has promised those of you who have attained to faith and do righteous deeds that, of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, even as He caused [some of] those who lived before them to accede to it; and that, of a certainty, He will firmly establish for them the religion which He has been pleased to bestow on them; and that, of a certainty, He will cause their erstwhile state of fear to be replaced by a sense of security [seeing that] they worship Me [alone], not ascribing divine powers to aught beside Me. But all who, after [having understood] this, choose to deny the truth - it is they, they who are truly iniquitous

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever Рік тому

    Keep exposing the islam scam!

  • @Taimurkhan4u
    @Taimurkhan4u 2 роки тому +2

    the source of islam is QURAN
    and holy places of islam r Makkah and Madina
    doom of rock has nothing to do with islam

    • @ssv7195
      @ssv7195 2 роки тому

      Yeah, they just hijacked Jerusalem because it is Jewish and they hate Jews as their god, allah-satan, told them to do

    • @bestKaffir.underTheSon
      @bestKaffir.underTheSon 2 роки тому +1

      @mysotiras 011 I like the way he calls it "Doom of rock".

    • @Oxygen11115
      @Oxygen11115 2 роки тому +1

      92:1 CONSIDER the night as it veils [the earth] in darkness
      92:2 and the day as it rises bright
      92:3 Consider the creation of the male and the female
      92:4 Verily, [O men,] you aim at most divergent ends
      92:5 Thus, as for him who gives [to others] and is conscious of God
      92:6 and believes in the truth of the ultimate good
      92:7 for him shall We make easy the path towards [ultimate] ease
      92:8 But as for him who is niggardly, and thinks that he is self-sufficient
      92:9 and calls the ultimate good a lie -
      92:10 for him shall We make easy the path towards hardship
      92:11 and what will his wealth avail him when he goes down [to his grave]
      92:12 BEHOLD, it is indeed for Us to grace [you] with guidance
      92:13 and, behold, Ours is [the dominion over] the life to come as well as [over] this earlier part [of your life]
      92:14 and so I warn you of the raging fire
      92:15 [the fire] which none shall have to endure but that most hapless wretc
      92:16 who gives the lie to the truth and turns away [from it]
      92:17 For, distant from it shall remain he who is truly conscious of God
      92:18 he that spends his possessions [on others] so that he might grow in purity -
      92:19 not as payment for favours received
      92:20 but only out of a longing for the countenance of his Sustainer, the All-Highest
      92:21 and such, indeed, shall in time be well-pleased

    • @annemurphy9339
      @annemurphy9339 2 роки тому +1

      I believe moslems only began to make the claim about Jerusalem being their 3rd holiest site in the 1950s. Everyone knows it has zero ties to islam.

    • @bestKaffir.underTheSon
      @bestKaffir.underTheSon 2 роки тому +3

      @@annemurphy9339 The night journey is a rather strange story. The Temple had no connection to Moses. Why did Muhammad speak to Moses? Why not Abraham or Solomon?

  • @roukayajannah5111
    @roukayajannah5111 2 роки тому

    Again, Jay lies about the Jamarats!
    The Jamarats were 3 before the 80’s, 3 during the 80’s and also 3 after the 80’s till today!
    The evidence is all over the web.
    Jay said Al Fadi when he was a young boy there were 3 pillars. But before his parents when they went to Makkah there was only one pillar.
    This is a lie! Another Jay’s example lie.
    They didn’t add 2 … always 3!

  • @ready1fire1aim1
    @ready1fire1aim1 2 роки тому

    Jesus the Splendor, also just called Jesus, is a Fragment of the Primordial God known as the Father of Greatness, being the Manichaeism equivalent of Christian Jesus. Like the Yeshua of the Christian religion, he is a kind, honest and very gentle deity.
    In Manichaeism, Jesus is considered one of the four prophets of this religion, along with Zoroaster, Gautama Buddha, and Mani. He is also a "guiding deity" who greets the light bodies of the righteous upon their deliverance.
    Like the Christian Jesus, he lived from 0 to 33 CE, being worshiped as the Son of God, and the Savior who rose from the dead. The religion of Manichaeism is a Gnostic religion, so unlike the Christian religion where the Messiah is the incarnation of God the Son, in Manichaeism there is a distinction between the physical and historical Jesus and the spiritual Jesus, with the human Yeshua being an aspect of the spiritual Christos.
    Like his Gnostic counterpart, it is unknown whether this "version" of Jesus has any direct connection to Jesus Prime. It can be said that their relationship is the same as the avatars of God such as Allah, Yahweh and Elohim, each being an incarnation of the Creator.

  • @mbardfast6658
    @mbardfast6658 2 роки тому

    Guys you are thousands of miles apart! Stop the silly pretence.

  • @alonzoharris6730
    @alonzoharris6730 2 роки тому

    Mel believes in three gods.

    • @yakovmatityahu
      @yakovmatityahu 2 роки тому +8

      Al lah prays to al lah

    • @nemesis1291
      @nemesis1291 2 роки тому +15

      Alfonso believes that a pdo.phile is his best moral example to follow.

    • @alonzoharris6730
      @alonzoharris6730 2 роки тому

      @@nemesis1291
      I'm not a Christian. The church is full of them.

    • @Basaljet
      @Basaljet 2 роки тому

      Hello mate. Nothing useful to say about the subject in hand as usual! Bring something to the table or take your bib off and sit on your potty!

    • @johnseventhday9145
      @johnseventhday9145 2 роки тому +6

      get a life and make sensible comments dont make comments to obscure people's comment to appear as if you are winning the argument.