I actually "hated" Glavine , not really but it was out of respect because you knew he would pretty much beat you because he was an amazing pitcher, so I have nothing but the greatest respect for him , we need more pure pitchers like him and Maddox nowaday.
Dale is my favorite player of all time. He is the reason I wore the number 3 in every sport I played in for 20 plus years. Even when collecting baseball cards yeah I'm that old I probably had more then 200 Murphy cards
Great story. I'm a Dodger fan, but Murph and Glavine are two guys that are hard to dislike. Murph was freakishly strong. I remember he hit a ball through the wall at Fulton County Stadium during BP. Idk how he's not in the HoF.
I agree. I think the only problem was that he didn't finish his career as strong in the end. In my opinion he deserves to be in based on his performance and character. Being MVP for 2 straight years is a thing in itself. When a lot of fans come to the game just to cheer on 1 guy for the most part should be enough. but I don't think no one from 1978-1988 could have done a better job consistently like he did.
Not trying to says this as a Braves fan, but as a baseball fan, Fred McGriff had the same length of dominance and was elected by them. Looked at stats, but Murphy played 154 games or more per season every season except one from 1980 to 1990. 1200 runs, 2100 hits on top of the near 400 homers, back to back MVPs. The only thing that isn’t eye popping is the average and on base. But if that is all that is keeping Murphy out, then that’s a crock.
@@matthewgabbard6415 They lost Otis Nixon before the WS in 91 to a drug problem. Losing your leadoff hitter before what became the tightest WS ever played was certainly impactful. Combined with the fact Ron Gant was pushed off first base but ruled out by a blind umpire didn't help either. But, I'm over it lol
One of my favorite players growing up. Murphy is a class act in every way. He signed a ball for me once and talked to me for a minute or so. He should definitely be in the HOF. If he would have played in the 90’s, dude would have had 500 HR’s.
Dale Murphy was the first baseball players name I learned as a child, and he was our household favorite growing up.... and I'm named after an excellent, third baseman from the Orioles.
Not many people know about Glavine being drafted in the 4th round by the LA Kings, ahead of Brett Hull and Luc Robitaille!! He was an outstanding hockey player, with lots of records here in Billerica, MA. But, I think he made the right move ;)
From a Phillies fan - Glavine seems like a cool guy from this video. There's an older video out on YT somewhere of Dale Murphy telling his side of this story, and it's hilarious. Can't believe Murphy isn't in the HOF.
No relation 😁 but my favorite Dale Murphy 'story' is after the '82 MVP season, he actually went and did some Instructional League work that off-season. I don't remember the full details but what I do remember is one of his teammates being asked about it and responding - with mock disgust - that Dale wanted to be the first person to win an MVP then the 'Most Improved Player' the following year. 🤣 Close! He won back-to-back MVPs!
He told the truth, NOBODY came to see the Braves, they came to see #3, If Harold Baines, Ted Simmons, and Scott Rolen are HOFers, then wtf is Dale Murphy? How many MVP awards did those 3 scrubs win COMBINED, I'll wait, Look up Carlos Delgado and Andrew Jones numbers, Shouldn't be a HOF without them
@@RJN8580 He's top 10 ever at the position. You're an idiot. Literally other than Bell,Boyer and Nettles who not in is even close to him? Molitor and Martinez barely count as 3B because they barely played the position. Rolen is 8th or 9th and about on par with Santi. Then Bell,Boyer, Nettles and Baker make up the rest of the top 14 You Rolen trolls really do need to get a clue.
Glavines control influenced alot of umpires. The catcher would set the target six inches off the plate. Glavine would hit the glove and get a called strike on unhittable pitches.
The problem with putting Murphy in the HOF is he played about 15 years but only had about 5 HOF-caliber years. There were quite a few years at the beginning of his career and at the end of his career where he put up mediocre numbers.
A buddy of mine was in a suite for a corporate get-together, and Murphy was a featured guest. He was the most personable, down to earth guy you could ever imagine. He took a ton of pics and even some gag shots. After the game, he walked with my friend and his wife all the way to the parking lot. 😂
Chipper Jones is my favorite baseball player of all time but these 2 men are way up there as well. I couldnt agree more with the folks comments on this video Mr. Murphy was a phenomenal ball player and very humble kind athlete and certainly would have my vote for the HoF.
Lifelong Cubs fan...growing up in the 80's Murph was a force and a nemesis...so much so that I was shocked and pleased to find out a guy that was such a force on the diamond could be such a diamond of a person off the field. Put his ass in the HOF.
I remember vs Glavine vs Murphy incident, as a TV highlight. The pitches didn't hit Murphy, because he stepped away as they came in. After ball four, Glavine was ejected. Oddest hit-batter without getting hit situation i've heard of.
I am a Phillies fan, we had Murph a couple seasons at the end of his career, and we loved him. It was a shame most of his career was spent with lousy teams, but Murph is without a doubt a Hall of Famer
i am as big a baseball fan/traditionalist as anyone on the planet; but i CANNOT understand intentionally hitting a batter as some sort of retaliation. you are giving the other team a free baserunner (albeit only first base, but still...), and you are risking needless injury to another team's player. just go ahead and look at the batter you've been told to hit and yell out, "nanny-nanny-boo-boo!" it's exactly the same on the maturity scale... and for the record, i think mr. glavine handled this situation perfectly, regardless of what mr. cox may think. tom glavine is truly one of the class acts in the history of baseball.
About this time, Ted Turner's tbs became available over the air. That made it one of about 7 channels i could watch. In OR, i was a Dale Murphy fan, as were several neighbor kids for the same reason.
Murphy was the second best all around player for a ten year period (behind Schmidt) he just had the bad luck of 1. having a slightly short career 2. finishing right before the juiced era when his stats looked rather average and 3. After the age of 31 his stats just went completely in the toilet for some reason I've never understood. But I think you can make a pretty good HOF case if you understand his career in context.
I was a kid in the 80s. The Braves were horrible. It was only Murph!! My mom would buy tickets for one dollar at top of stadium and back then it was so empty you could literally walk down and sit next to Jimmy Carter, Ted Turner and Jane Fonda. Lol.
I know baseball players have their codes and that Bobby Cox was old school. But it is absolutely disgraceful that Cox ordered Glavine to throw at one of the greatest Braves--and nicest guys--of all time. The team had already decided to move on from it, why should that change just because it took three games to get to it? Cox lowered himself a notch in my estimation that day.
I will always be indebted to Ted Turner for buying the Braves and TBS and shoving the Braves games down everyone's throats. You learned to love them no matter how bad they played.
I was watching that game on tv.... It was a cool moment. In games where the Braves were down by double digits, the crowds would stick around to see Murph bat again. When he connected with one it sounded like a 30-06 going off.
So for me he was a very good baseball player, but he was not an all time great. Playing 18 years a lot of his numbers are because of the length of his career so having said that Dale Murphy should not be in the Hall of Fame. And that goes for a couple hands full of people as well that are in the Hall. The “Feelings Police” will probably eventually vote him in. I think they should just do it much much sooner because the point has already been made that he’s not thought of as a Hall of Fame MLB player.
Bobby Cox cost the Braves several World Series titles. Yes he got them there, but he always sabotaged his own team. Always took the pitcher out too early and put the wrong pitcher in. Loser...
not only two great Braves, whom I've met - but two great players and two great men. Murph is in my HoF. all I want to know is, did Glavine get his arse chewed by Cox for NOT hitting Murph? I heard a similar story from an ex-Braves pitcher.
I think one of the main reasons why he isn't in there because his career in the end for the last 5 years wasn't as great. Career wise though he should be in.
Also, the end of his career was the steroid era. Murphy was notoriously clean and drug free. To put up those numbers during the steroid era is even more impressive
@@Pedroism 2000 hits for an 18 year career isnt HOF material. His bat avg was quite low and not many RBI for an 18 year career either. Very good player but not HOF. But then again, neither is Alan Trammel but he got in...
Murphy was great but he fell off too quickly at the end of his career. His career WAR was under 50, which in my book, is the minimum cutoff. 60 is where I think, barring some horrible scandal, it should be pretty automatic. Guys like Dwight Evans and Kenny Lofton aren't in the HOF and they beat Murphy by 15+ points. It's not that Murphy didn't have a great prime, it's that he didn't have a long enough prime. He was good from 80 to 87 As for not hitting Murphy, I'm against intentionally hitting batters in the first place.
Glavin got more calls off the plate than any other pitcher, and then would complain about it when he didn't get them. "I'm a veteran player, we deserve those calls," I remember him saying at the time. Clown stuff.
I love LOVE Murphy my favorite player growing up i have just about all his cards ever printed, and I'm a Yankee fan. But his numbers aren't enough just like I think Harold Baines shouldn't be in along with others. The HOF has become somewhat of a joke.
I didn’t know he wasn’t. If you think about baseball in the 80’s Dale Murphy was as big a name as there was, he would have started on every other team. 😂😂
Taking up for Wally Ritchie intentionally hitting Otis Nixon the first time is the real joke here. As I remember Ritchie got out of that brawl with his side ripped open from Otis kicking him. His jersey had a long rip and you could see his skin was scratched up and bleeding. And he deserved it.
I was NOT a Braves fan, but Dale Murphy should ABSOLUTELY be in the HOF! No question!
As an Amazing Mets fan, Dale Murphy definitely SHOULD BE in the MLB HOF. Not only was he a great player but a good person as well ⚾️
Another Met fan here and watching this just made me realize he's not in the HOF. Ridiculous!!!!!
I never liked the Braves as a team, but Dale Murphy and Tom Glavine are two of my favorite players of all time. Great story!
Ok
I actually "hated" Glavine , not really but it was out of respect because you knew he would pretty much beat you because he was an amazing pitcher, so I have nothing but the greatest respect for him , we need more pure pitchers like him and Maddox nowaday.
I'm getting old, I didn't even recognize Glav
Glavine I couldn’t stand because the umps gave like a foot off the plate consistently. It was flipping ridiculous
Dale is my favorite player of all time. He is the reason I wore the number 3 in every sport I played in for 20 plus years. Even when collecting baseball cards yeah I'm that old I probably had more then 200 Murphy cards
Back in the day it was Brett, Schmidt, Murphy, Rose and Rickey. Murphy should definitely be in the hall. Plus he was a great fielder.
Even as a little kid in the early 80s I knew Murphy was one of the best in the game. Him and Mike Schmidt were my favorites
Great story. I'm a Dodger fan, but Murph and Glavine are two guys that are hard to dislike. Murph was freakishly strong. I remember he hit a ball through the wall at Fulton County Stadium during BP. Idk how he's not in the HoF.
I agree. I think the only problem was that he didn't finish his career as strong in the end. In my opinion he deserves to be in based on his performance and character. Being MVP for 2 straight years is a thing in itself. When a lot of fans come to the game just to cheer on 1 guy for the most part should be enough. but I don't think no one from 1978-1988 could have done a better job consistently like he did.
Murphy wasn't just a HOF player, but human being. One of the ERA Committees needs to vote him in now. The man deserves his day in the sun.
Not trying to says this as a Braves fan, but as a baseball fan, Fred McGriff had the same length of dominance and was elected by them. Looked at stats, but Murphy played 154 games or more per season every season except one from 1980 to 1990. 1200 runs, 2100 hits on top of the near 400 homers, back to back MVPs. The only thing that isn’t eye popping is the average and on base. But if that is all that is keeping Murphy out, then that’s a crock.
2 more homers…seems to be the line HOF drew
Glavine is my favorite ball player of all time! I absolutely love those 90s Braves.
With that pitching staff, how in the world did they only win one?
@@matthewgabbard6415 Best pitching in the world can't score you any runs.
@@matthewgabbard6415 They lost Otis Nixon before the WS in 91 to a drug problem. Losing your leadoff hitter before what became the tightest WS ever played was certainly impactful. Combined with the fact Ron Gant was pushed off first base but ruled out by a blind umpire didn't help either. But, I'm over it lol
One of my favorite players growing up. Murphy is a class act in every way. He signed a ball for me once and talked to me for a minute or so. He should definitely be in the HOF. If he would have played in the 90’s, dude would have had 500 HR’s.
Dale is a legend. Needs to be in the HOF
Dale Murphy was the first baseball players name I learned as a child, and he was our household favorite growing up.... and I'm named after an excellent, third baseman from the Orioles.
Not many people know about Glavine being drafted in the 4th round by the LA Kings, ahead of Brett Hull and Luc Robitaille!! He was an outstanding hockey player, with lots of records here in Billerica, MA. But, I think he made the right move ;)
First time seeing Glavine in a while. Was a huge Braves fan back in college in the 90s. Man we're all getting old... lol
From a Phillies fan - Glavine seems like a cool guy from this video. There's an older video out on YT somewhere of Dale Murphy telling his side of this story, and it's hilarious. Can't believe Murphy isn't in the HOF.
No relation 😁 but my favorite Dale Murphy 'story' is after the '82 MVP season, he actually went and did some Instructional League work that off-season. I don't remember the full details but what I do remember is one of his teammates being asked about it and responding - with mock disgust - that Dale wanted to be the first person to win an MVP then the 'Most Improved Player' the following year. 🤣
Close! He won back-to-back MVPs!
As a kid growing up in the south in the early 80s this man was a legend. Yes he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
Class act no drama
I had no idea Dale Murphy wasn’t a HOF, coming from a Reds fan. Every time that guy came to the plate, could change the game!
Glavine throwing at Murphy was one of the greatest episodes in MLB history.
I watched that game on TV. Classic , one I’ll never forget.
Great interview! I hope to see Dale Murphy get into the HOF soon. A great player and human.
Of course, McDowell was involved in this situation. First he spits on Kramer and Newman and then this happens
Classic
I met Murphy at his restaurant, Murph's, at the Galleria across I-285 from Truist Park. Great guy.
Murphy should be in the Hall of fame.
He told the truth, NOBODY came to see the Braves, they came to see #3, If Harold Baines, Ted Simmons, and Scott Rolen are HOFers, then wtf is Dale Murphy? How many MVP awards did those 3 scrubs win COMBINED, I'll wait, Look up Carlos Delgado and Andrew Jones numbers, Shouldn't be a HOF without them
Bingo
Scott Rolen is one of the best 3B of all time,get off of the guy already.
It's the most under represented position in the HOF. He has a WAR over 70.
@@briankendall7878 Stop 🛑 just 🛑, Rolen is not on the greatest third baseman. Rolen shouldn’t even be in the Hall of Fame.
@@RJN8580
He's top 10 ever at the position.
You're an idiot.
Literally other than Bell,Boyer and Nettles who not in is even close to him?
Molitor and Martinez barely count as 3B because they barely played the position.
Rolen is 8th or 9th and about on par with Santi. Then Bell,Boyer, Nettles and Baker make up the rest of the top 14
You Rolen trolls really do need to get a clue.
Biggio < any of them
Glavines control influenced alot of umpires. The catcher would set the target six inches off the plate. Glavine would hit the glove and get a called strike on unhittable pitches.
The problem with putting Murphy in the HOF is he played about 15 years but only had about 5 HOF-caliber years. There were quite a few years at the beginning of his career and at the end of his career where he put up mediocre numbers.
DALE IS THE MAN.
A buddy of mine was in a suite for a corporate get-together, and Murphy was a featured guest. He was the most personable, down to earth guy you could ever imagine. He took a ton of pics and even some gag shots. After the game, he walked with my friend and his wife all the way to the parking lot. 😂
Quit letting these sports writers with big egos and no experience playing the game to vote. Let the guys in the Hall determine who joins them
Glavine’s got those running for office glasses.
Chipper Jones is my favorite baseball player of all time but these 2 men are way up there as well. I couldnt agree more with the folks comments on this video Mr. Murphy was a phenomenal ball player and very humble kind athlete and certainly would have my vote for the HoF.
Dale Murphy is my guy too
murphy... rose....bonds..should be in the hall of fame
Lifelong Cubs fan...growing up in the 80's Murph was a force and a nemesis...so much so that I was shocked and pleased to find out a guy that was such a force on the diamond could be such a diamond of a person off the field. Put his ass in the HOF.
Made me watch the Braves back in the Day, and I'm a Cardinals fan HOF for Murphy and a Great person
I'm biased, but I respect Tom Glavine for throwing at but not hitting Dale Murphy
I remember vs Glavine vs Murphy incident, as a TV highlight. The pitches didn't hit Murphy, because he stepped away as they came in. After ball four, Glavine was ejected. Oddest hit-batter without getting hit situation i've heard of.
You are Tom Glavine....hof, world series champ....300 game winner.....BUT WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO THROW AT DALE MURPHY!?!?! ;)
Growing up in central MA in the 80s I wore a Braves hat because I was a center fielder that looked up to Murph.
I still have a stack of Tommy G's rookie cards somewhere.
I am a Phillies fan, we had Murph a couple seasons at the end of his career, and we loved him.
It was a shame most of his career was spent with lousy teams, but Murph is without a doubt a Hall of Famer
I thought he was in the hof. I'm a dodger fan and remember all those years. Totally deserves to be there.
Who here had a Dale Murphy Rawlings baseball glove?
Yep.
i had that cheap glove
i am as big a baseball fan/traditionalist as anyone on the planet; but i CANNOT understand intentionally hitting a batter as some sort of retaliation. you are giving the other team a free baserunner (albeit only first base, but still...), and you are risking needless injury to another team's player. just go ahead and look at the batter you've been told to hit and yell out, "nanny-nanny-boo-boo!" it's exactly the same on the maturity scale... and for the record, i think mr. glavine handled this situation perfectly, regardless of what mr. cox may think. tom glavine is truly one of the class acts in the history of baseball.
Some may not know Dale played AAA in Richmond. He was a catcher which did not work well.
About this time, Ted Turner's tbs became available over the air. That made it one of about 7 channels i could watch. In OR, i was a Dale Murphy fan, as were several neighbor kids for the same reason.
Murphy was the second best all around player for a ten year period (behind Schmidt) he just had the bad luck of 1. having a slightly short career 2. finishing right before the juiced era when his stats looked rather average and 3. After the age of 31 his stats just went completely in the toilet for some reason I've never understood. But I think you can make a pretty good HOF case if you understand his career in context.
I had a situation once where I was told to hit a batter I respected, so I hit him with a change-up about 1/2 the speed I normally threw it 😂
I was a kid in the 80s. The Braves were horrible. It was only Murph!! My mom would buy tickets for one dollar at top of stadium and back then it was so empty you could literally walk down and sit next to Jimmy Carter, Ted Turner and Jane Fonda. Lol.
I know baseball players have their codes and that Bobby Cox was old school. But it is absolutely disgraceful that Cox ordered Glavine to throw at one of the greatest Braves--and nicest guys--of all time. The team had already decided to move on from it, why should that change just because it took three games to get to it? Cox lowered himself a notch in my estimation that day.
Dale Murphy was a good ball player, but a guy with a .265 batting average doesn’t belong in the hall. It’s not the “Hall of pretty good “
Back to back MVP, led the league in HRs twice and had a 5 year run where he led the NL in many categories.
Basing a HOF on BA is entirely outdated. Try again.
Why isn't he or Gravey not n the hof is mind blowing
I will always be indebted to Ted Turner for buying the Braves and TBS and shoving the Braves games down everyone's throats. You learned to love them no matter how bad they played.
Can’t believe Murphy STILL isn’t in the HOF…..
Might as well put Dale Murphy in the hall of fame. It is already full of good players that aren't hall of fame worthy.
Dale Murphy isn't in the Hall?
SMurph absolutely deserves to be in the Hall of Fame!!
PEDs skewed the HR numbers. 300 HR should matter
I think the hof let's too many in. That being said players such as Santo, Baines, Rollins opens the door for Murphy, Garvey, Mattingly and, edmonds
#3 HOF, #25 HOF....no debate.
Note when he threw at him, it wasn't at his head!
I was watching that game on tv.... It was a cool moment. In games where the Braves were down by double digits, the crowds would stick around to see Murph bat again. When he connected with one it sounded like a 30-06 going off.
Him and Tom Chambers
Braves made the playoffs once in the Murphy era, not a couple of times.
Murphy is HOFer, but when it left Dale, it left almost completely.
Murphy had a long, solid career. Doesn't mean he should be in the hall, though.
Murphy's problem was that he came just before the steriod kings if he had used imagine the numbers he would have put up
Steve Garvey should be in, too
why was it necessary to hit murphy?
So for me he was a very good baseball player, but he was not an all time great. Playing 18 years a lot of his numbers are because of the length of his career so having said that Dale Murphy should not be in the Hall of Fame.
And that goes for a couple hands full of people as well that are in the Hall.
The “Feelings Police” will probably eventually vote him in. I think they should just do it much much sooner because the point has already been made that he’s not thought of as a Hall of Fame MLB player.
Bobby Cox was the best manager ever.
Stuck up for his players for sure, 162 ejections, he fought for his team!!!!
Regular season maybe.. but Cox sucked in the post season
@stevejohnson1577 unfortunately the entire team choked during the post season. (Exception of 95')
@@JessyFinch I remember him managing the Jays in the 85 series against the Royals… Cox could never manage a bullpen in the playoffs
Bobby Cox cost the Braves several World Series titles. Yes he got them there, but he always sabotaged his own team. Always took the pitcher out too early and put the wrong pitcher in. Loser...
Too funny
HOF should loosen up and induct similar to football. It should be an annual celebration of the greats. No excuse for Murph not being in the hall.
not only two great Braves, whom I've met - but two great players and two great men. Murph is in my HoF. all I want to know is, did Glavine get his arse chewed by Cox for NOT hitting Murph? I heard a similar story from an ex-Braves pitcher.
There is only one reason I can think of why Dale Murphy is not in the HOF. His religion. That can be the only reason because Dale Murphy is a Mormon
I think one of the main reasons why he isn't in there because his career in the end for the last 5 years wasn't as great. Career wise though he should be in.
I thought the exactly same thing, he has 8 kids and is a moron. And a huge advocate against steroid use in sports.
@douglasbrittain7018 and he will get punished fir that's, dude lit it up 398 hr ans 2000 hits.
Also, the end of his career was the steroid era. Murphy was notoriously clean and drug free. To put up those numbers during the steroid era is even more impressive
@@Pedroism 2000 hits for an 18 year career isnt HOF material. His bat avg was quite low and not many RBI for an 18 year career either. Very good player but not HOF. But then again, neither is Alan Trammel but he got in...
Dale Murphy 2nd greatest Brave ever
Is Hammerin Hank or Chipper your #1? Either one is a great choice!
Crime dog
Maddux is my favorite Brave ( and MLB ) player of all time. Then Chip, Murph, Glav, Smoltz in no particular order
@@samcolombi439 good list
Murphy was great but he fell off too quickly at the end of his career. His career WAR was under 50, which in my book, is the minimum cutoff. 60 is where I think, barring some horrible scandal, it should be pretty automatic. Guys like Dwight Evans and Kenny Lofton aren't in the HOF and they beat Murphy by 15+ points. It's not that Murphy didn't have a great prime, it's that he didn't have a long enough prime. He was good from 80 to 87
As for not hitting Murphy, I'm against intentionally hitting batters in the first place.
im disappointed he did just hit him
Glavin got more calls off the plate than any other pitcher, and then would complain about it when he didn't get them. "I'm a veteran player, we deserve those calls," I remember him saying at the time. Clown stuff.
true. He is in the HOF because his strike zone was almost 3ft outside the plate...
I love LOVE Murphy my favorite player growing up i have just about all his cards ever printed, and I'm a Yankee fan. But his numbers aren't enough just like I think Harold Baines shouldn't be in along with others. The HOF has become somewhat of a joke.
Pitchers who intentionally throw up near a hitter's head are despicable people.
Dale Murphy is a no brainer. Sometimes they put guys in the hall that I'm not even familiar with.
Do you mean to tell me that pitchers occasionally purposely throw at batters? Oh my! P.S. Good story.
It's a unwritten rule.
NONE of US(I am 50 so swing 5 years upward and downward) in the neighborhood wanted any ball card more than Dale Murphy ones!!!!!!!
I didn’t know he wasn’t. If you think about baseball in the 80’s Dale Murphy was as big a name as there was, he would have started on every other team. 😂😂
Dale Murphy was a terrible feilder!!!.fielder!!!.. no chance of hall of fame...
Dale Murphy was nowhere near as good as Don Mattingly during their era
Both were great players. Give it a rest.
@@thehaughtcorner no... Mattingly was a great player, Murphy was a great hitter. deal with it
Taking up for Wally Ritchie intentionally hitting Otis Nixon the first time is the real joke here. As I remember Ritchie got out of that brawl with his side ripped open from Otis kicking him. His jersey had a long rip and you could see his skin was scratched up and bleeding. And he deserved it.