Who Are Al-Shabaab? | 5 Minute History Episode 12
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Al-Shabaab, short for Ḥarakat ash-Shabāb al-Mujāhidīn meaning 'the Mujahideen Youth Movement' is an Islamist movement from Somalia, active in East Africa and across the Gulf of Aden in Yemen. The group has its origin in the Somali Civil War of the 1990s, though it was officially founded in 2006 during the Ethiopian Invasion of Somalia. They continued to fight against the Ethiopians and AMISOM generally throughout the 2000s, capturing territory in the South of Somalia as well as crossing the border into neighbouring Kenya to expand their operations.
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#Somalia #News #Africa
Islamic insurgencies: exist
Hilbert: *It's free real estate*
Welcome back to Islamic Insurgencies with Hilbert!
Im still waiting for a video about the Uyghur Islamist Party
@null Yes
What about redical American secularist. 🥴 who kills innocent civilians with drone attacks. #(Bias media)
He’s very good at them. Better than most.
Man's obsessed
1:14 Something you need to know about this moment, as someone who isn't even from southern Somalia but from Borama in northernmost Somalia, ICU was a godsend when they rose to power in the south. They actually brought a brief moment of stability and began disarming nearly every tribal militia and subjugating all the crazy warlords. The sun actually rose over a new day in Mogadishu HOWEVER this didn't sit too well with certain rival tribes in Somalia who suffered at the hands of the ICU (as the ICU was majority Hawiye) some of these tribes unified and built the transitional government of Somalia and sought help from neighbouring Ethiopia to regain control of Mogadishu. Ethiopia during that time was ruled by the TPLF party (yes, the same TPLF that fell from power and is currently fighting for their lives in Ethiopia now) they saw the ICU as a threat so they essentially told the USA that the ICU was al-Qaeda affiliated and an Islamic terrorist organisation (keep in mind this was the height of Iraq and afghan insurgency and the war on terror). The USA immediately backed an Ethiopian invasion into Somalia in 2006 which caused major atrocities across the south, they backed the transitional government (which was filled with warlords and tribalists) and ousted the ICU. The USA later realised the mistake they made and brought back the former leader of the ICU Sheikh Sharif, al-Shabaab was born out of the power vacuum left behind by the ICU in the south. The transitional government could barely exert any control across the south and the majority of its members (warlords) began carving the south up into their own territories.
Somali civil war could have ended in 2006 if it weren't for foreign interference. Even now foreign forces r completely against the re-establishment of a national army and guess what? those same warlords n terrorists are also against it. The war in Somalia has become profitable for the African Union troops AMISOM which have been accused of prolonging the conflict to secure more funding and payments from the EU (the whole mission in Somalia is funded by the EU)
Sorry for the huge-ass text but there is major history behind al-Shabaab
@Nikolaj || average person from somaliland has no hate to the south. Don't conflate them to the tribalistic diaspora who benefit from the status quo
@Nikolaj || there is a difference between hating the 🇸🇴 and hating Somalis
@Nikolaj || 🇸🇴 this flag was on the planes that bombed Hargeisa and Burco
@Nikolaj || I am from Togdheer JSL
@Nikolaj || First off stop lying about Puntland. The Somalia Flag waves above the Puntland state flag in Somalia. You are obviously ignorant so keep it quiet.
Islamic scholar Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali once wrote:
"Declare war on thirteen enemies you cannot see - egoism, arrogance, conceit, selfishness, greed, lust, intolerance, anger, lying, cheating, gossiping and slandering. If you can master and destroy them, then you will be read to fight the enemy you can see"
well somalis seem to be masters of twelve of the thirteen nowonder their country is well the way it is
@desneribe a moron cannot be expected to spot wisdom let alone deduce facts and you most certainly don't disappoint
@@bushlandeast7175 are you saying that all Somalis are like this
@@bushlandeast7175 hush
@@bushlandeast7175 don’t generalize everyone
*Petition for a 5 Minute History on the Taksim and Enosis groups during the aftermath of the decolonization of Cyprus*
Enosis 😍🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@@jensjensen9035 haha operation atilla go brrr.
And AEOKA
@@jensjensen9035 taksim🇹🇷
Is it just me or does Al-Shabaab sound like it could be the name of a funky 80s hip hop group?
The lost 6th member of A Tribe Called Quest
Afrika Bambaata
It sounds like food to me.
Al shabaab means the teens xd
I thought it was a football team in the Saudi pro league Ngl
5 minute history is a great series keep making them hilbert
Thanks man!
I hope punjabistan falls and kpk is reunited with IEA
@@eatinsomtin9984 shut up!
Pakistani Pashtuns love Pakistan!
Long live khyber and Peshawar!
LONG LIVE PAKISTAN!
Allahu Akbar! 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
@@eatinsomtin9984 I hope Khalistan and Kashmir are freed.
Hilbert! I want to say thank you for these types of videos! I recently had a term paper that dealt with the topic of terrorism. Your videos helped give me background knowledge needed to write my paper and do well!
Thank you for letting me know - glad my videos were of some use to you!
Mention in your data article Israel and America they are top terrorism country in the world
Why are you targeting only Muslims or Muslims countries?
Islam never allow innocent people killing
IS: Please join us
Al-Shabaab: How bout no
IS: ....
Al-Shabaab: *Then he waddled away, waddle waddle. Til the very next day...*
Al-Shabaab to the pro-IS members: *So anyway, I started blasting*
Hey honey x
What a beautiful poem 😂
Alot of crucial information is left out. The ICU as it names suggest were a union of courts thats purpose was manily for settling dispute and bringing order in the midst of anarchy during the civil war, the warlords battling each other were horrific. The locals supported the ICU and eventually took the capital, not Al-Shabaab, Al-Shabaab was just a small disliked faction that the ICU kept in check. The Ethiopians took the opportunity to paint the ICU as a terrorist organisation, after that the American government froze money in the banks and backed the warlords that stole aid during a famine! (Ironically the same people Bush Sr fought) the CIA went on to kill principals and Imams, mind you this was the first time in 15-20 some years Somalia has been in peace the ICU were opening up schools again and cleaning the streets, then the American backed Ethiopian invasion, the ICU peacefully withdrew from Mogadishu in order to avoid destruction and mass civilian casualties and eventually dismantled while the Al-Shabaab showed up and thats how Al-Shabaab began.
Fucking hell. They are either stupid or just evil
@@paulghencea9037 It's literally how it happened. Unlike what the video says, there was no AS before 2006. No Somali ever believed the lie. Now most others won't after WikiLeaks revelations.
I'm Kenyan and grew up in the coastal city of Mombasa ,alot of people I grew up around ended up getting radicalized and joining the Al-shaabab.
Also other than the targeted attacks in a mall in 2013 and at the US embassy in the capital Nairobi (which we still refer to as "bomb blast") ,they had no presence in inland Kenya
I guess that's what happens when foreign powers occupy their homeland, propagate corruption, and commit atrocities there. Pretty sad situation
@@overdose8329 Somalis brought this upon themselves with their irredentist politics at independence that eventually led to the total obliteration of their government and society
@@bushlandeast7175 That’s funny because Ethiopia invaded Somalia long before Al Shabaab attacked them. The previous war between Somalia and Ethiopia where Somalia invaded Ethiopia was long over.
@@overdose8329 of course its not like Somalia was a paradise on earth before Ethiopia invaded the country went to shit in 1991 Ethiopia came in to do some damage control in 2008 might as well done more damage than good but the point is Somalia was already a dump in 2008
@@bushlandeast7175 it wasn’t a paradise on earth at all but the civil war was about to end. Ethiopia invaded to make sure it never would
It's the desert town in Runescape where you have to pay 10 GP to get through the gate
Hilbert, just wanna say Thanks!
Thanks for the greatest history and neo-politics content on YT.
And As a Muslim Pakistani-Pakhtun.
I say Nice pronouncing of Arabic words and
Great Easter egg ya put on that Rifle lol,
“Belgium, what is that?“
😂
Hey Hilbert, could you do a video on the history of the PKK and the Kurdish-Turkish conflict?
Would love to see this also. It'd be great to see an overview of the different Kurdish groups as well as the PKK.
Definitely planning to do one on them in the future!
@@historywithhilbert146 amazing!
It would be an interesting terror group to see Hilbert speak about
@@folkishappalachian6827 one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
I’m Somali American and never even knew these details of Al shabab until this video
So am I, but I know to look at everything with a grain of salt. Believe it or not, skepticism has saved my life once or twice it’s a very valuable trait. But you can't teach instinct.
Yay love this series.
We indirectly led to Barre's downfall by supporting Ethiopia during the Ogaden War
Soviets did
ok so you are an enemy of my people you will regret this
What do you mean, do you want to live under a corrupt dictatorship which also committed genocide.
@@eho6380 hes just stating the facts
Somali are not predominantly Sufi but are Sunni to be exact they follow the shafi’i teachings.
in western media sources there's always a heavy push for sufism as it involves random non islamic bullshit spiritual stuff and it is one of the few forms of islam that is generally pacifist
@@overdose8329 Because the Western Media is ignorant about issues outside their own world. Theirs a Sufi militant group in Somalia called Ahlul Sunnah wal Jamaah. Majority of Muslims are peaceful including the sufis and "wahhabis" whatever that means.
@@overdose8329 Sufis are not pacifist broski. Historically speaking, sufis like imam shamil, the darawiish and the sanusiyya in libya were at the forefront of resistance against colonialists. Western media try to paint Sufism as a pacifist thing but the reality is that there is an orthodox Sufism that many of our ulama practiced. Assuming you’re salafi, you’ll find that scholars like ibn taymiyya praised abdulqadir al jaylani, for example, and is buried in a Sufi graveyard- where only Sufis are allowed to be buried. On the other hand, you have other people who claim to be Sufis and come up with their own bs and misguide the people with their ignorance and greed in some cases. Also, just as fiqh and aqeedah are a part of Islam- so is tasawwuf- it’s goal is to attain ihsan. And if you look at the hadith of jibril where iman, islam and ihsan are mentioned, you’ll see what I’m talking about.
@@so-zc9nl Yh but they’re not the majority
@@so-zc9nl yeah buts not recognized or valued of its existence so we just Somalia 🇸🇴
Good job man, really good video jam packed full of knowledge.
We should just make religious texts have a dictionary at the end so people could stop interpreting everything to their own liking.
interesting proposition napoléon
Yeah, those texts would be Quran, Hadith and Statements of the companions of the prophet, a society ruled by these would be as close to heaven on Earth as possible.
@@TolerantAcceptingModernCommuni Crucifying and deporting people isn't a fun society. Also, Islam is doomed to fail since it always leads to discrimination since it distinguishes between Muslims and Non-Muslims while also cursing non-muslims.
@@eho6380 Saudi Arabia disagrees, UAE disagrees, Iran disagrees, Oman disagrees, Qatar disagrees, Pakistan disagrees, IEA disagrees, Indonesia disagrees, Malaysia disagrees, please support your claim with evidence you inferior being, you chose inferiority.
@@TolerantAcceptingModernCommuni Yep, they execute and torture people
hopefully one day Somalia will be peaceful
THIS INFORMATION IS INCORRECT.
Since you're doing Islamic insurgencies, I recommend you make a video on the South Thailand insurgency.
Shouldn't your closing graphic have the clock's hands advanced by 5 minutes from the one in the opening graphic?
Keep up the good work.
ICU is the biggest enemy of John Cena hands down
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭💀💀💀💀💀
This is my favorite series
I really love this Videos👍👍👍👍👍
Hilbert, I've got an idea : why not talk about Aromanians and their history (perhaps a bit longer than 5 minutes)?
Yes more on these people
I love your history channel
My real name is Emanuele
Hilbert u butchered Siyaad Barre’s name. Somaliland is not a country and Somalia is safer than what the media makes it out to be.
Somaliland IS a country by definition. Recognition will follow.
@@GeckoWiz Somaliland is an autonomous state within Somalia. It’s unlikely anyone will recognize them. Nearly half of the cities in Somaliland don’t want to be apart of it and want to remain in Somalia.
@@GeckoWizyou say recognition will follow but you been trying for 30+ years and still don’t got it lol
@@GeckoWiz which country sees u as a country?
@@GeckoWiz Somaliland is a country but please have some heart for Somalia and it’s people who are struggling rather than running away from your people
I'm chilling in Kampala right now... Yeaaaaah.
this didn't age well
Fantastic video thanks for the information
Why you care your somalilander 🤔
@@mohamedwaititi6192 true that but knowledge has no borders
@@smooth2477 wait but Somaliland isn’t recognized or valued so therefore your just Somali
Al shabab has been defeated in southern Somalia and their running to the Kenyan border
unfortunately you are wrong, they still have strongholds all over southern somalia,even along the Ethiopian border
You liar. Al shabab will soon capture Mogadishu
@@MEHEDIHASAN-px2qv soon Islamic Emirate of Somalia?)
@@murad272 yah
@@MEHEDIHASAN-px2qv Inshallah
My aunt got murdered by the al-shabab a few years back. :(
🙏🏾❤🌷
I’m sorry to hear that
This group was created after the invasion of the west in Somalia and other outsiders even supported them. This organization has nothing to do with our perfect Islam nor our Somali Muslims community. They are clearly created to harm us Somalis which are Muslims. We Somalis are Sunni Muslims for centuries and have been having practice our religion Islam for centuries until today proud to be Muslim Alhamdulillh 🕌❤️🤍😍🇸🇴
Lol always blaming the west when we all know the root of the problem come from Islam itself.
No there is no such thing blaming but actually the organization is nothing to do with our religion and our community it enemies to us and kill our Muslims people. Islam is a beautiful religion and nothing to do was any groups that been created by enemies of Islam and Muslims. ❤️😍
Muslim people try to defend themselves and their land
Westerners under israel leash: Terrorist!
4:44 good Easter egg, Hilbert! Although not a language from Somalia, the butt of the rifle is written in Pashto. بلجيم، هغه څوک ده؟ = Belgium, who’s that?
Great video.
funfact: al shabab means the Young in arabic
Your Arabic pronunciation is impressive
Created a group just for you Hilbert. "Militants of Hilberts Islamo-theocracy" 👳🏻♂️☝🏻⚡⚡
They’ve gotten considerably weaker in-fact they only control as much as 8-9% of the country now mainly in the south in Kismayo
Different reports are saying the now control roughly 25% of the country in the rural south. But that is according to AFRICOM so it could be a false report.
@@Akech101 it probably is I don’t like AMISOM don’t know why they are still in Somalia
@@moesizlak2733 I’m not talking about African Union AMISOM, I’m talking about AFRCOM, the US Military Headquarters in Africa.
@@Akech101 They don't control these areas but rather have a strong presence in them. It means they can carry out attacks and extort locals.
Losing Kismayo would be a blow to them. They make 70-80million a year from Sugar and Charcoal exports from the port. If the Kenyan + AU occupation forces leave AS would die. However, they won't leave without being forced out and as you can see from yesterday's UNSC resolution clearly its what certain "powers" want.
Al-Shabaab was responsible for the mall attack in Nairobi. Unfortunately, for the terrorist, they met SAS operative Christian Craighead aka Obi-wan Nairobi who engaged them and rescued the hostages
Where is Episode 12 of 5 minute history?
FYI most Somalis are not Sufi but Sunni
Usually the good guys don’t hide their faces
Just saying
I mean, he’s wearing the same facial outfit that anyone in a America were to sleep with a woman they wouldn’t want to be seen with their you go.
3:18 What kind of map is this?
I am happy that you pronounce the Arabic words right
America’s future Saigon
Most Somalis are actually Sunnis not suufis thank you
Literally all of Somalia of is Sunni
@@Hello-uk5xp nope there’s a lot of sufis in somaliland
Sufis are sunnis tho
@اهل علم اهل سنة so wahabisim follow??
Stop propaganda
Al Shabaab they born 2006
they fight in Kenya Uganda and Somalia
Not Yemen
The dictator of Somalia is called Siyaad Barre
This information is incorrect. This information is from the lies that the former rulling party of Ethiopia TPLF and their agents in Somalia AKA clan warlords spread.
Alshabaab was created by few key players Ethiopia+CIA, loosing clan warlords and Djibouti, Kenya, somaliland+ Puntland which saw stability in Mogadishu as a treat to their interest.
All of them had different goals.
why do you keep on blaming others for your own problems
@@ngari117 do you lack reading comprehension?
@Edie Skyla Middleton that's their specialty,destroying their own country after failed expansionism and blaming the 'west', which supposedly includes all the countries neighboring it, they got what they deserved
@@ngari117 The west and Ethiopia are behind this mess in Somalia, they backed a corrupt politicians to topple a functioning administration (ICU) which gave the opportunity to Al-Shabaab to rise and become powerful, Ethiopia eventually lost, the corrupt administration still continues to rule with little achievements, the west continues to pay a lot of money and Alshabaab is still a powerful entity.
@@mohamedabdukadir3271 lol keep lying to yourself and go read some thomas sowell always blaming the west for your own problem
Do a video on based Hamas
Hoo boy, can't wait to see the comments section on that one
Islamic Courts Union brought peace to Somalia, before Islamic Courts Union there were a lot of Problems in Somalia because their was no any system at all. War lords were ruling Somalia and civilians did have enough rights. Islamic Courts Union create a lot of peace and dignify for local Somalis. The west was not Happy with that all. God bless Somalia!!!
Sure buddy, whatever you say.
@@ajarofmayonnaise3250 No he’s actually right. People liked the ICU, they brought law and order for a time. Reopened the capital airport, lunacies cleaning campaigns, fought against the piracy, and even reopened the seaport. People felt safe for the first time in decades, until it all went to shit.
Lol always blaming the west for your problem when it is obvious the problem is Islam itself
So the problem is not Al shabaab
"They continue to fight against Amazon"
most somalis aren’t sufi they’re sunni
sufi is branch of Sunni and majority of somalis were sufis before but since the start of the civil war wahhabis have increased
@@atofficial7197 most Somalis aren’t Sufi or Wahabi. Most of us are mainstream Sunni (Ahlus Sunna)
@@AbdullahAli-eg9qx wahabism is a Coloniser term, and Sunnis are Salafis, the people who follow sunnah follow the message to follow the salaf.
@Farhan Ibn Adam stop speaking for millions of Somalis. There’s hundreds of thousands of sufis in somaliland.
@Farhan Ibn Adam I didn’t say majority were but there is still a mot
Although Ethiopia was there to stop terrors, they used it as an axcuse to invade somalis who they saw as enemy to the cuntry's stability in the previous decades. They even stopped at Gode, the former capital of somali region of ethiopia to cause some trouble, because they've been the roots of somali regions indipendance movements in ethiopia.
Kenya's motivation for invasions started because the Jubbaland province of somalia used to be a part of British East Africa (old name for kenya) until the brits switched it to their somaliland. Native somalis in north eastern province of kenya started movements to join somalia when kenya achived independance. After silencing them, kenya switched the topic from north east to Jubbaland and whether it should be kenya or somalia.
Hello from Kazahstan.But Im russian
Fook
I love how al-shabab respects women rights.
Equal opportunity suicide bombing
@@boygenius538_8 Based al shabab.
Pirates, alshabab and War, Fighting, black hawk down War With American Soldiers and Somalia 1977 War With Ethiopia, i Was born War going
Insha Allah i hope peace
The Islamic Courts Union stablised a lot of Somalia. CIA-backed warlords and Ethiopia worked to bring it down.
The sufi population in Somalia is like max 5% the vast majority are Sunni Muslim with no denominations
There’s a lot of sufis in somaliland and there’s a lot of denominations. There might not be any sufis from where you’re from but there’s hundreds of thousands here in somaliland
95%
Can you make a video on the Albanian civil war please
When was that?
@@Random_Panda_eating_cake 1997
@@arbenkraja9500 ah thanks
@@Random_Panda_eating_cake np it’s a very interesting topic tbh
@@arbenkraja9500 I googled I was surprised it hadn't even been mentioned in the books I've read about the fall of communism
So much fast.I understand why it is..But I can't understand everything you said.
they were created by Ethiopia i am a witness to this
Don't say somali pirates say somali braves
Hayat Tahrir Sham next?
So if Al Shabaab and Boko Haraaam pledged alliance to Al Queda and we now know Al Queda was trained by the US…….i smell something fishy.
And I saw US training Somali military recently. It’s a dirty game
Hey Hilbert, can you make a video about Hamas or the Al-Qassam Brigades in the future?
Why do they always have the most boring flags like, "solid color and words" like at least be a bit fancy like add a symbol like saudi-arabia or another color like isis and isil.
my arab friend told me that shabaab meant boy so i thought that al shabaab was the boys
@SMM Productions i know now but before i thought it meant the boys because that is what my Arab friend told me
@SMM Productions it would be funny if Al shabaab was called the boys
Al shabab is Arab word and it means youth
It's clear Arab created them
because they choosed arab name
@@futuredoctor1966 ok
@@futuredoctor1966 take responsibility, the sole reason Somalia is destroyed is due to us Somalis, everything else is secondary.
Thanks for uploading, plz upload more religious extremist videos. They are very interesting
You are wrong siyad barre is no dictator he's the best president in somalia we are so proud him our president and we love him 🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴
Thanks to them I can't see my uncle
🏴
I am from somalia somali ayan kaso jeedaa
Today?
How situation today with Al-Shabaab?
Minnesotans known about al shabab because we have so many Somalians in Minneapolis 🇸🇴
We have more than
1000 western al shabaab fighters
Al shabab is international
FtA!
MOST SOMALIS ARE SALAFI SUNNIS NOT SUFI's
Like 👍🏾 Somalia 🇸🇴
💯 only knew this group from filtered west propaganda on one of my favorite TV shows titled FBI
1:40 Ethiopia isn’t a Christian majority country, that’s a misinformation
Yes it is. Google is free
Long story short an resistant unit against Ethopia occupation of Somalia funded by USA but after achieving it's goal things went wrong
"None other than Osama bin Laden and others."
i know its an old ass vid but...GOTTA SAY IT
I am so tired of hearing people say that the name "Saxon" comes from The seax style knife. I hear this so much its starting to irritate the shit out of me. This theory is false,it is not true,it is made up, I dont know how else to get this through to people. It comes from sacae-son ,or the sons of the sacae. Saxon is a language cognate. Sacae,sacca,sakka,sachsaman ect, are the Aryan tribe from the eastern step that migrated south to the indus valley several different times. One of these was with Alexander the Great. After his battles with them, extremely impressed by these warriors he incorperated large numbers of the "scythian tribe of the sacae" into his calvery force. After things settled down in the region these warriors hooked up with king Friso and sailed back to frisland. Eventually settling just north of the frisians.
Have a look at the germanic spelling for saxon and the name given to them by the surrounding peoples.
Being a person with strong saxon heritage, this information is not only known to scholars( who since ww2 try to say its nonsense) but is known in my family for generations. Yes crazy I know! that people actually know where their ancestors come from. and dont need dick headed "scholars" to tell them they are wrong or making shit up. Arrogant, condescending history deniers
Correction you missed vital information where usa supported Ethiopia invasion of Somalia.where the tplf regime in Ethiopia gave misinformation to USA and Amison mercenaries in somalia funded by eu.
Just for correction there isn't something called "Wahhabi",and murder,kidnapping,killing,bombing that Al-shabbab commit has notning to do with islam where this is strictly prohibited
make one for ltte or the farc
Aren’t these the ones who have banned plastic bags?
Ethiopia didn't invade somalia they sent military assistance for the government
Yee Yee 😎
Islamic Court Unions we’re very good please respect them they saved us from the foreign invaders
Do your research before you start throwing claims around... Al Shabaab does not have bases in Kenya. They attack from Somali. we've been fighting them for over a decade in their own country
To say "none other than osama bin laden" and in the same breathe say, "among others" is the most contradictory statement ive ever heard.
I thought us americans were dumb and ignorant? How am i the only one who sees the oxymoron in said statement?
Get there flag right in the thumbnail come on that’s amateur mistake…shameful laziness
Religion of love😂
0:43 jihadist cyborgs confirmed?
Thank you Hilbert, for another informative video. In short, these guys are another of the heartwarming stories of radical Islam and the continuing positive influence Islam has on the world. Who could have imagined that a religion started by a false prophet and pedophile would be responsible for so much good in the world today.
You lied about Siyad barre wasn’t Dictator that’s why we fucked up and start this Terrorst groups killing civilians
Somali was verry good when siyad bare in the power
Micnaha dictator aadan fahamsaney
"Dictator waa kaligii taliye" siyad bare dalka 20sano soo xakumay gabood falyo geystay.
Sounds like a bunch of Young Groypers 🤢🤮🤢
@0 0 I am just imagining some random somali islamist shitposting on Twitter with a groyper pfp.
@@Guadalajara1937I mean, they're both right wing extremist groups who believe violence should be used to control the government, just because most of the groypers are too pussy to follow thru with their beliefs doesn't make their ideologies different
Nah they're not that cool