me too, but this time not even the well-written jokes and in-depth historical information of the video could keep me from getting grossed by the fact that these poor kids were being treated as objects and sold for their bodies...
Another point about the Kamuro/Courtesan relationship that came to mind: a lot of these courtesans would have been forced to abort or give up a child at some point. I wonder if many of these courtesans saw their kamuros as foster daughters or as a replacement for the children they lost. I’m sure not every courtesan who was made to mabiki or sell their child actually wanted to
Some maybe, but most definitely not, you have to understand people back in the day had a totally different view of children compared to us now. No one gave much of a fck about kids, most families had like 5-10 kids anyway and they couldn't even feed them all.
@@TryinaD Exactly, we forgot that kids aren't "treasures" it is larva of a human or billet to be made one. Without society to guide them kids are pretty much useless animals. This is why EDUCATION and parenting are the most important things in every society.
The big picture is, back in the feudal days, a lot of jobs were literally bone-crushing or grueling. For example, if you dug gold in Niigata, you could expect to live only for two years on average. In such a society, the life of Kamuro was not necessarily very harsh compared to others. Actually, some people might think the girl was lucky cuz she’d get educated for free, wear nice kimono, and eat white rice (many farmers could eat only millet, sweet potato, etc), and there’s a chance she hits it big, however slim the chance is.
Selling off a girl to work in the pleasure district got her way from the brutal reality of pre-industrial farming, and all the other different types of village work aren’t much less grueling either. In avery real way it was about the only chance a poor family had to get some upwards mobility for their daughter, or to get them out of the impoverished rural life. Life prior to industrial agriculture and scientific medicine with antibiotics and vaccines was grueling and often short. Something like 2/3 of kids never even made it to 5, and 3/4 of people never made it to 15. 1/2 didn’t even make it to 1. Further, because Japan had a closed country policy food imports were not a solution so famines were fairly frequent and of course the rural poor were hardest hit. There was also the issue of banditry as the Edo Period featured a disarmed populace. So, in a very real way, getting your girl into town was the best thing you could do for her. Her care, feeding, and education would be guaranteed. She would learn valuable skills to make her own way, and gain a career education. This was before public schooling; illiteracy was more common than literacy. Town came with a chance she could get bought out by or married to a ranking samurai or a rich merchant. In the endogamous classist society of the time that was never going to happen otherwise. At the very least, I was glad to discover historical Japanese brothels, didn’t whore out children, instead of waited for them to become a mid to late adolescent. And of course, I’m glad to not only live absolutely not in medieval Japan, but also in a place where enslaving the kids to become prostitutes isn’t considered a legitimate way of anything. Fuck yeah 21st century!
@@Mortablunt It's just sex. Modern people, especially westerners where Christianity helped shape the culture, act like sex is some huge deal and borderline evil, or at the very least bad in some way. And sex with lots of people, and for money, just horrible. Reality of course has very little to do with what goes on inside the mind of a cultist, I mean, culture. People all act like we're so advanced now and this kind of behaviour is just reprehensible, then they go wank of to some eighteen year old imported from a poor war torn country getting gangbanged while giving away all their money to the love of heir life which lives on OnlyFans that totally doesn't have a boyfriend and two kids in the next room.
The truth was that most of them did not get to eat white rice, or enough of it, until they made it big. It's commonly described on Japanese websites that the dealers lied to the parents, and the children lived in terrible conditions, until they could make money for the brothel
If it was so great the parents would have given away their daughters for free (relying on their daughter sending home money or white rice as a rich prostitute)
First I was like "Ayyyy, new Linfamy video", but then I was like "Ooohh, another video about the Japanese sex trade that will make me depressed and hate humanity".
1:21 Human Traffickers still use this tactic to this day- taking advantage of poor well meaning loving but desperate parents… people who do that should not be shown mercy
Especially with what they do to the kids. It's worse than what most people think r@pe is, so many stories from surviors of kids being r@ped to death in front of the other kids or being r@ped by animals.
@@WeevilLover9000 You censored rape three times. If you really thought it was horrible you would have no problem with just saying the word unless you have traumatic experiences or youtube is deleting your comments. People just look like 9 year old clowns when they do this.
Your kid has a cute name, I, unfortunately, was given Sarah as a name. That's like the female version of bobert. Your child's name means snow, beautiful
This is quite the rollercoaster of emotions. Its really hard to remember how different the culture was. Very interesting video - Ive never heard of it before. Thank you for sharing.
age of consent in japan is 14, they can perform sex acts on men even younger, of course, this is also monetized. not that different to now, the culture of "was"
@@bobbobbing4220that's a myth, it's 18 in every prefecture so in practice nationally. It's lower here in Europe, here in Netherlands for example it's 16, and for example in Hungary and Italy it's 14. France is 15 iirc. Japan is on the high side compared to the eu...
@@ukeyaoitrash2618 Hell, there are a number of American states where it's below 18. None of them are below 16, but it's 16 in more than 3/5 of all states (only about 1/5 has it at 18).
@@ukeyaoitrash2618 "As part of revamping its laws relating to sex crimes, Japan has raised the age of sexual consent from 13 to 16 years. The limit had remained unchanged for over a century and faced flak for being one of the lowest in the world." took me like 30 seconds to research you weeb.
My heart goes out to the girls that were sold to the Red Light District I know it happen centuries ago but no one deserves to be force to do sex work, places like the Red Light District is dangerous.
@@Just_a_Goth I was pointing to the fact that the young girls sold off actually could live a decent innocent childhood until they turned 15, which was normally impossible with the incredibly tough life peasants had back then
Life in the Red Light District was horrible many japanese considered the place a part of the dark side of Japanese History. Many girls died at a young age from stds. They also had to do extreme measures to keep clients from leaving cutting off fingers, writing their names with blood, pulling out finger nails, even did suicide yeah it was bad.@@evryatis9231
Thanks for these videos, Lin. You can find a million channels about samurai and battles and daiyo and shogun. But not many cover Japanese historical daily life topics like you do. I've learned a lot from this channel, usually in topics I never knew anything about.
@@ChrisHeart-kr1uqif the 2 a bombs didn't fell on hiroshima and nagasaki, US forces would've been invaded the Japanese mainland causing near extinction of the Japanese and society would've been better without them tbh
The more I learn about these places the more it threatens my suspension of disbelief that Tanjiro did not at any point in that arc flip his shit at any humans. Dude has a tell-all magic nose and he didn't notice all the suffering and illness in the air while happily doing chores in the sex slave factory?
Yay another bedtime story from my favorite channel! This whole video reminds me of the song Yoshiwara Lament, such a beautiful but sad song which really fits the theme. Thank you again for making complicated history so digestible and humorous!
In some ways i expected the brothels to have just kept rh girls regardless of what the contract says but it's really nice they reached out to the parents when the girls were 13 or 14 when the contract ended. That was surprising
There is a big difference between sex industry and sex slavery. The difference is a brothel worker at least puts on an air of enjoyment and interest. A sex slave is just gonna be depressed and more often then not is kept in their situation via drug addiction. Both are just there to get f***ed, but the former is going to make much more money because the average guy isn't gonna shell out his fortune to hump a sad unresponsive girl.
Children are considered parent's property in most places, including US states. You may not want to be too surprised until we abolish child marriage "with permission".
@@Simon-xi7lb I find religious families (not just christians) to be more controlling in general. I've heard of the story of a woman that was screwed over by the canadian court, and was forced to marry a terrorist by her parents.
Yeah. The girls are technically slaves. It's pretty common in East Asia to sell off girls like that. (Boys can be sold too, but I guess their treatment will be more like adapted sons. And actual server contracts are entirely different things from prostitution.) There are contracts similar to adaption, so it can be pretty ambiguous too. But when it is written contract in play, they're almost always sell as servitudes.
@@hiidenkiuasThey were slaves in a sense but also not because slavery is a caste system. Meaning you’re a slave and can never not be a slave. High ranking courtesans had varying degrees of authority and power. Doesn’t make the history any more fun but reality is far more complicated in ways we spoiled modern people don’t understand nor even try to understand.
This is why we shouldn't rely on movies such as "The Memoirs of a Geisha", in exploring Japanese culture, coz such adaptations isn't that accurate & some could be misleading. Thanks for the video & clarification Lin-chan! 🎉💐☺️
The author actually knowingly misrepresented aspects of a geisha's life. The geisha he consulted, Mineko Iwasaki, has released her own memoirs in response if you would like to read those instead.
Fair, but Memoirs included pretty much all of this in the story. The relationships were more dramatic, but I don’t see a huge discrepancy in the actual structure.
@@BloodWiredplease do correct me if i'm wrong but as far as i know geisha aren't courtesans, that is an oiran. The book exaggerate some things like that coming of age ceremony/mizuage. Maikos that graduated to geishas didn't sell their virginities, they just finished their studies & moved from dorms (in which they got taken care of by the mother of the house and get to live for free) to live independently and schedule their own performance and most of them already got loyal patrons on their own. I read that some geishas did sleep with their patrons or even become a mistress though.
Despite how toxic my mother was with me or my sister, because of our absent father, she would never allow us to be treated in such an inhumane way (exploitation, objectification), by other guys. She even told us that we should be carefull.
Horrific disguise of what seems to be a soul selling business under the extraneous beauty of these costumes and colourful parades; it’s fascinating that once out of the system however many return to it like in the handmaiden I know a person who liked these type of things and can’t describe the terrifying air of disgust I get when imagining these situations on point, a depressed internally old man grasping for a body of mute innocence right in front of him, pushing it back and forth to get a sound that would bring him back a feeling of momental euphoria This is fucking insane
Yeah, it's beyond repulsive. My soul hurts at the thought of all the women who've spent their lives being treated like this. For all the women who still are being treated like this. It's Evil.
10:36 "It was like a college party and upstairs people are getting assaulte-" I don't think there's a funnier or more true throwaway line in this whole video than that 😂
It's interesting to see these videos explaining history and drawing parallels to modern time. Men being "loyal" to a courtesan while expecting special treatment reminds me of those stories pf idols getting in trouble for having boyfriends.
Yes, it is similar but there's a small difference: Idols are often pressured into keeping an innocent, playful and childlike image to appeal to the pedophi- I mean their fans, because idols are seen as property by their male fans, like dolls. If an idol as a boyfriend, it mean she's not virgin anymore, and worst of all, she has a LIFE OUTSIDE OF HER FANS. Those fans wants those girls to STAY virgins... like them. So both courtesans and idols are seen as property by the men, but the way their bodies are sold to them are differents
@@LeoDBW or maybe people are mad that they got lied to about who they're supporting? its an industry exploiting vulnerable lonely men, the fact that idols exist in the first place is because their fanbase isn't mentally healthy. no sympathy there.
@@kokujo-5092 "Lied"? They aren't products; "Haha, deception! we lied to you, these young girls are in fact human beings with their own life!" Seriously, It's not the idols faults, that industry also prey on young girl sometimes as young as 13yo, and groom them into "perfect girls" who can't even make their own life choices, blame the higher ups and the managers who put these girls under so much pressure and sell them to these adult men.
@@LeoDBW yeah? that is the deceptions. they are presented as perfect young single girls. they're called idols, its in the name. most idols know what they're getting into. but even here you've now switched the blame onto hypothetical groomers instead of "pedophi-"/"idols are seen as property by their male fans, like dolls". the fanbase is not in the wrong for being weird, they are targetted as a demographic BECAUSE they are weird and being lied to leads them to keep being weird. its the idols and the idol industry at fault.
I've said this before but if you really think it was horrible you would have no problem not censoring it. Unless UA-cam is being a dick and deleting comments again.
When I finally learn about Japanese history at school, your videos will help me pass every test. They teach me more than school and I can understand everything better
You know, when I started reading and translating old Japanese stories, I was very surprised about how much they dedicated to making stories about love, marriage and. . . Other things. Apparently they enjoyed stirring romances and scandalous gossip as much as anyone else. By the way I've got a couple of videos out about stories that center marriage and sex if anyone is interested in hearing my personal rendition of some primary sources on these things.
The worst part is that people were thinking that it was the duty of the girl. Nobody deserves this 😭 Now excuse me but I’m gonna hug my mom and tell her how much I love her for not selling me, even tho I am a bad child 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Your monotone voice and dry jokes makes this a lot funnier than depressing. "AR-15 are great, but a child's innocence is a better weapon" spilled my fucking water
The whole Geisha stuff is just a small part of Japans medieval prostitution system, not everyone got an education in arts and wore expensive clothes, most just were simple protitutes with cheap clothes and tons of makeup trying to look like Geishas or other high-class entertainers. Geishas were expensive, the normal prostitutes were for the simple folks
THANK GOD THIS DIED OUT. I mean, can you imagine if Left-Wingers normalized S-Work and saw nothing wrong with it as long as the Magical-Force called Consent was involved? Or Right-Wingers allowing children, the poorer the better, be tricked by the Military to join the Military, all well-documented by Youtubr Renegade-Cut?
You mentioned male coworkers working at the brothels, and it really peaked my curiosity because I assumed it was mainly women running these places. Do you have any videos about the male workers that I could watch?
ua-cam.com/video/RgTLs9p8IpM/v-deo.html This one is about Kabuki Actors ua-cam.com/video/PfmtfUskbjQ/v-deo.html There's one about "teahouses" they talk about male sex workers
Actually these male workers where sex workers themselves as well, usually young boys, cuz In Japan those days homosexuality was common, think they were called kagema
Tengen Uzui, the sound hashira from the anime Demon Slayer, nearly kidnaps several unwilling young girls that he doesn’t know to sell to the red light district. He’s supposed to be one of the good guys. Keep in mind this takes place in Taisho era Japan (early 20th century) not the Edo period.
While I still dislike him for that, I do understand that he was desperate and wanting to save his wives…people can and will do disgusting things to save their love ones.
honestly when i heard ancient egypt had equal rights and no female oppression i was suppressed cause ive never heard of a country that did enslave, sell, or use women as some object for a treaty
Capitalists don't train their employees, Silly. They expect workers to show up fully trained - but not TOO trained because then they'd be overqualified and harder to exploit !
It happened with my aunt's friend, her sister took her on a trip but was trying to traffic her to a pimp by leaving her without any money in a far away town. Gladly she got saved by a guy with a car before anything could happen to her, this happened here in Brazil. The crazy thing is that we are very sensitive about this topic and today even the organized crime attacks groomers, domestic abusers and grapists.
though more than poor cultures, the very rich ones have the worst of it, the problem is that they hide it very well; Like the say: "the winners write the story" ...And the rich and successful are these winners right now, they'll chose the info you're being fed too.
Except it’s a bathhouse?? I would think the movie was based on the modern concept of a Japanese bathhouse instead of a historical on used as a pleasure house…
@@Meimoons Then you missed the part where Chihiro's name and identity were sold to "Grandma" and that all the workers of the bathhouse were attractive women in kimono attending to rich men/daemon
Yo! What's up Linfamy. Thanks again for new video, as always. By the way, life of being woman is much easier now than before cuz you have freedom and laws that can protect you. But everytime its not enough to protect to any unfortunate situations. Being a kid born in poor situation tends to experience sad life. Until you become adult, maybe you wish there is good samaritan grab you up to better place? Yeah long message. Great video,keep the good quality and knowledge as always. 👍
Excellent video as always, but for any Japan history fans I have sort of an off topic question.... Is there any TV Shows or Movies, that take place in Pre-Sengoku Japan? I just finished a Korean History binge with 6 or 7 TV shows (considering a Korean show on average spans 50 episodes, it took a while lol) and I have been wanting to delve into Japan history, however I have seen a ton of stuff that is set in the Sengoku/Edo periods but can find literally nothing during the Heian/Nara period. I found an anime that was set during the Heian that involves a little girl who's blind father is beheaded in front of her, it was mostly just depressing than exciting or interesting. Other than that I played a PS2 game Genji: Dawn of the Samurai set during the Heian, and Total War: Shogun 2 has a Taira vs Minamoto campaign. That about sums up all I could find.
Every time this channel pops up in my feed, the video is about Japanese women, their lives, and variations like courtesan, princesses and youkais. I could mistake Linfamy as a dedicated Japanese Women history channel. Or is it really?
Dude, you just gave me a great idea for a Dungeons and Dragons adventure: the PC's gotta save girls from kamuro life or kamuro from hooker life, all against powerful brothels. Dam! The intrigue, a battle of wits and weapons. Right on Lin 🤙
Rewatching...I'm soba forever. I hate most other noodles. My noodle shall not be used for hookerism! Now let's remember Honen and Miyamoto are with us, let's rid ourselves of kim Jong un
I like that you empathized that these women were being exploited, groomed and sexually assaulted throughout. One of the topics that needs to be handled maturely ykw
Echoes of this can be seen in the lifecycle of maiko in modern Kyoto. A girl can be accepted into an okiya after she finishes middle school, around 15-16 years old. She becomes a shikomi for a year, then a maiko for five years (17-20 years old), and finally a geiko at around 21. As long as she doesn't marry, she can remain a geiko for as long as she likes. It is an occupation with a high turnover rate.
Well both of those are weird. 1 hookers getting jealous of men sleeping with other hookers because you were only allowed to be with 1 hooker at a time 2 the fucking weird part is little kids getting bought by a brothel due to crippling poverty and getting groomed into being professional...you get it im not saying that that word in the same sentence as children
Its a non-compete clause. Enormous amounts of wealth changed hands in the pleasure districts, businesses generally want to avoid clients and employees giving their money to others. It ensures an income for the courtesan if hes not allowed to spread his money too evenly to everyone in the brothel but rather focus on one particular woman. Her job is a lot more work than laying on her back, as alluded to with her music and dress education. These women were artists, performers, actresses; they knew how to work lighting, perfect their make up, tell stories, sing, dance and play instruments. They were entertainers of *all* kinds.
@@Nazuiko Basically like modern day OnlyFans or wherever these girls sell nudes or lewds. The photography, dressing, makeup, and constantly posting to on social media to get new patrons. Though they usually don't need to do a whole song and dance number.
Bro idk how to feel about this video…other than it’s a historical vid about how girls were treated in that time periods, which now makes sense to me on how women in anime are normally depicted, just eye-candy characters for pleasure 💀
I haven’t sold you to a pleasure house, so don’t forget what I did for you:
www.patreon.com/Linfamy
The joke is in poor taste... please do not joke this way.
Aw, but I wanted to make it big in the city and rise above my station... because that would totally happen. /s
@@dannylo5875 did anyone ask?
@@dannylo5875 sounds like you need to be sold to a pleasure house
@@bidoofismyking8962 The reason I actually commented this Joke that it is in poor taste. It still happens.
"Sometimes life can be hard and so can men"
First line is modern poetry 🔥
Hard men bring good times. Good times bring soft men. Was it?
Type of poem the Dogmeat General would write
spitting bars 😎
@@Soravia ah that's why west today 💤💤🤓
@@Soraviaand soft men make me hard
I feel terrible for these kids (and many others), but I'm always happy to see a new Linfamy video get posted.
@@ChrisHeart-kr1uq what?
@@ChrisHeart-kr1uq BOT.
@@ChrisHeart-kr1uq Oh just spam them. By the way you can't beat something that has no body.
@@ChrisHeart-kr1uq It's sad that you have no friends or anything to look forward to irl lol
me too, but this time not even the well-written jokes and in-depth historical information of the video could keep me from getting grossed by the fact that these poor kids were being treated as objects and sold for their bodies...
Another point about the Kamuro/Courtesan relationship that came to mind: a lot of these courtesans would have been forced to abort or give up a child at some point. I wonder if many of these courtesans saw their kamuros as foster daughters or as a replacement for the children they lost. I’m sure not every courtesan who was made to mabiki or sell their child actually wanted to
Some maybe, but most definitely not, you have to understand people back in the day had a totally different view of children compared to us now. No one gave much of a fck about kids, most families had like 5-10 kids anyway and they couldn't even feed them all.
@@ГалинаФетисова-ю4мyup, I feel like now we care a little too much about babies in comparison to the past.
@@TryinaD Exactly, we forgot that kids aren't "treasures" it is larva of a human or billet to be made one. Without society to guide them kids are pretty much useless animals. This is why EDUCATION and parenting are the most important things in every society.
The big picture is, back in the feudal days, a lot of jobs were literally bone-crushing or grueling. For example, if you dug gold in Niigata, you could expect to live only for two years on average. In such a society, the life of Kamuro was not necessarily very harsh compared to others. Actually, some people might think the girl was lucky cuz she’d get educated for free, wear nice kimono, and eat white rice (many farmers could eat only millet, sweet potato, etc), and there’s a chance she hits it big, however slim the chance is.
Selling off a girl to work in the pleasure district got her way from the brutal reality of pre-industrial farming, and all the other different types of village work aren’t much less grueling either. In avery real way it was about the only chance a poor family had to get some upwards mobility for their daughter, or to get them out of the impoverished rural life.
Life prior to industrial agriculture and scientific medicine with antibiotics and vaccines was grueling and often short. Something like 2/3 of kids never even made it to 5, and 3/4 of people never made it to 15. 1/2 didn’t even make it to 1.
Further, because Japan had a closed country policy food imports were not a solution so famines were fairly frequent and of course the rural poor were hardest hit.
There was also the issue of banditry as the Edo Period featured a disarmed populace.
So, in a very real way, getting your girl into town was the best thing you could do for her. Her care, feeding, and education would be guaranteed. She would learn valuable skills to make her own way, and gain a career education. This was before public schooling; illiteracy was more common than literacy. Town came with a chance she could get bought out by or married to a ranking samurai or a rich merchant. In the endogamous classist society of the time that was never going to happen otherwise.
At the very least, I was glad to discover historical Japanese brothels, didn’t whore out children, instead of waited for them to become a mid to late adolescent.
And of course, I’m glad to not only live absolutely not in medieval Japan, but also in a place where enslaving the kids to become prostitutes isn’t considered a legitimate way of anything. Fuck yeah 21st century!
@@Mortablunt It's just sex. Modern people, especially westerners where Christianity helped shape the culture, act like sex is some huge deal and borderline evil, or at the very least bad in some way. And sex with lots of people, and for money, just horrible. Reality of course has very little to do with what goes on inside the mind of a cultist, I mean, culture. People all act like we're so advanced now and this kind of behaviour is just reprehensible, then they go wank of to some eighteen year old imported from a poor war torn country getting gangbanged while giving away all their money to the love of heir life which lives on OnlyFans that totally doesn't have a boyfriend and two kids in the next room.
Literally the first 5 ish minutes of the video LMAO
The truth was that most of them did not get to eat white rice, or enough of it, until they made it big. It's commonly described on Japanese websites that the dealers lied to the parents, and the children lived in terrible conditions, until they could make money for the brothel
If it was so great the parents would have given away their daughters for free (relying on their daughter sending home money or white rice as a rich prostitute)
Wait, doesn’t this count as child/human trafficking.
Yes.
Yup
Oh it would absolutely be seen as that nowadays
Ah, yes.
Oh absolutely. 😐
"People were not fans of child labor... laws."
ancient japan was libertarian, apparently.
now i know why anime makes 'it' seem quirky
First I was like "Ayyyy, new Linfamy video", but then I was like "Ooohh, another video about the Japanese sex trade that will make me depressed and hate humanity".
me losing faith in humanity and get more and more sad the more i watch the video (i will continue watching anyway)
fr 😭
You should not hate humanity for this, but men and their sexual disaer
Sex trade was not at all the worst work to do at this time it had one of the highest life expectancy compare to other jobs a commoner could get
@@tanner8705I’m sure lot of the girls and women would have preferred that.
1:21 Human Traffickers still use this tactic to this day- taking advantage of poor well meaning loving but desperate parents… people who do that should not be shown mercy
Agree.
The parents or traficcers?
@@livingmasquerade1418both im assuming?
Especially with what they do to the kids. It's worse than what most people think r@pe is, so many stories from surviors of kids being r@ped to death in front of the other kids or being r@ped by animals.
@@WeevilLover9000 You censored rape three times. If you really thought it was horrible you would have no problem with just saying the word unless you have traumatic experiences or youtube is deleting your comments. People just look like 9 year old clowns when they do this.
"But her kamuro could run down those streets like diarrhea."
Beautiful. These words make me cry of joy everytime I hear them.
gross. hated that imagery.
@@ambersquirrel2514 It was poetry my friend
My body spasmed when he said “Yuki, off to the brothel with you!”
My child’s name is Yuki 😂
😅
@marshalmarrs3269What are you talking about?
Your kid has a cute name, I, unfortunately, was given Sarah as a name. That's like the female version of bobert. Your child's name means snow, beautiful
@@laininbluescourt Sarah is a pretty name also
@@laininbluescourtsarah is a wonderful name. it's classy and sweet. i hope your daughter never learns you dislike her name😭😭
This is quite the rollercoaster of emotions. Its really hard to remember how different the culture was. Very interesting video - Ive never heard of it before. Thank you for sharing.
age of consent in japan is 14,
they can perform sex acts on men even younger, of course, this is also monetized.
not that different to now, the culture of "was"
@@bobbobbing4220I thought they changed that recently, and that all the prefectures already got it to 18 before the central government
@@bobbobbing4220that's a myth, it's 18 in every prefecture so in practice nationally.
It's lower here in Europe, here in Netherlands for example it's 16, and for example in Hungary and Italy it's 14. France is 15 iirc.
Japan is on the high side compared to the eu...
@@ukeyaoitrash2618 Hell, there are a number of American states where it's below 18. None of them are below 16, but it's 16 in more than 3/5 of all states (only about 1/5 has it at 18).
@@ukeyaoitrash2618
"As part of revamping its laws relating to sex crimes, Japan has raised the age of sexual consent from 13 to 16 years. The limit had remained unchanged for over a century and faced flak for being one of the lowest in the world." took me like 30 seconds to research you weeb.
My heart goes out to the girls that were sold to the Red Light District I know it happen centuries ago but no one deserves to be force to do sex work, places like the Red Light District is dangerous.
Nah, the horrible thing was that life wasn't all that bad all things considered in the time.
@@evryatis9231Child grape is horrible, no matter the time or circumstances. There's no justification, period.
@@Just_a_Goth I was pointing to the fact that the young girls sold off actually could live a decent innocent childhood until they turned 15, which was normally impossible with the incredibly tough life peasants had back then
@@evryatis9231 Oh, yeah. Child prostitution is _so_ much better. 🙄
Life in the Red Light District was horrible many japanese considered the place a part of the dark side of Japanese History. Many girls died at a young age from stds. They also had to do extreme measures to keep clients from leaving cutting off fingers, writing their names with blood, pulling out finger nails, even did suicide yeah it was bad.@@evryatis9231
Thanks for these videos, Lin.
You can find a million channels about samurai and battles and daiyo and shogun. But not many cover Japanese historical daily life topics like you do. I've learned a lot from this channel, usually in topics I never knew anything about.
Yeah, but most of them are Very Serious. We haven't had any battles here since the Mongol invasions or so.
what tf@@ChrisHeart-kr1uq
@@ChrisHeart-kr1uqif the 2 a bombs didn't fell on hiroshima and nagasaki, US forces would've been invaded the Japanese mainland causing near extinction of the Japanese and society would've been better without them tbh
@@ChrisHeart-kr1uq eyyy
@@ChrisHeart-kr1uq what the fuck. why are you hoping that the suicide rate rises?? do you want people to die?? is this sarcasm??
The more I learn about these places the more it threatens my suspension of disbelief that Tanjiro did not at any point in that arc flip his shit at any humans. Dude has a tell-all magic nose and he didn't notice all the suffering and illness in the air while happily doing chores in the sex slave factory?
Who's Tanjiro?
@@jeffwolcott7815 Main character of one of the anime this video uses clips of
Yep, the author wanted an arc in the pleasure quarter but completely refused to show what brothels were really about.
Tell us the anime I want to check it out
That shit had a lot of problems writing-wise
I needed several moments after the hearing a child’s puberty being likened to an avocado. I was eating avocado toast. I’m not hungry anymore.
Yeah 🤢
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Always happy to see a new video, and with the dry humor still kicking it!
Glad you like!
"dry" humour, you say?😏
Yay another bedtime story from my favorite channel! This whole video reminds me of the song Yoshiwara Lament, such a beautiful but sad song which really fits the theme. Thank you again for making complicated history so digestible and humorous!
yoshiwara lament! tetos tuning in that song is insane, especially for like 2013 when synthv wasn't even a thing yet
@@amethyst4578 i knowwww!!! I love her voice in that song so much!! I think it might actually be my introduction to teto at the time LOL
Omg yes! That song was my shit back then 😭
yoshiwara lament mention???
The only thing better than dark humor is dark humor nestled sweetly in the arms of informative content. Well done.
Nothing like a red lantern-themed episode!
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I love the Red Lantern District stories. They are the real life stories that show the good, bad and indifferent players involved
Just another one in the series
In some ways i expected the brothels to have just kept rh girls regardless of what the contract says but it's really nice they reached out to the parents when the girls were 13 or 14 when the contract ended. That was surprising
There is a big difference between sex industry and sex slavery. The difference is a brothel worker at least puts on an air of enjoyment and interest. A sex slave is just gonna be depressed and more often then not is kept in their situation via drug addiction. Both are just there to get f***ed, but the former is going to make much more money because the average guy isn't gonna shell out his fortune to hump a sad unresponsive girl.
Children are considered parent's property in most places, including US states. You may not want to be too surprised until we abolish child marriage "with permission".
@@jamie1602 as long as christians have any say in it, that'll never be abolished here, sadly.
@@Simon-xi7lb I find religious families (not just christians) to be more controlling in general. I've heard of the story of a woman that was screwed over by the canadian court, and was forced to marry a terrorist by her parents.
@@yowatt3279 WHAAAA.... poor woman
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FINALLY❤ I NEED HIS HUMOR lol seriously ❤
The emperor*
Another great Japanese history vignette from Linfamy! Equal parts hilarious, educational and distressing!
Yeah. The girls are technically slaves. It's pretty common in East Asia to sell off girls like that. (Boys can be sold too, but I guess their treatment will be more like adapted sons. And actual server contracts are entirely different things from prostitution.)
There are contracts similar to adaption, so it can be pretty ambiguous too. But when it is written contract in play, they're almost always sell as servitudes.
they were.. they had their things cut off so that they wouldnt cheat with the women
i'm pretty sure they weren't "technically" slaves they just *were* slaves
Doesn't the rest of the world have something like that ?
@@hiidenkiuasThey were slaves in a sense but also not because slavery is a caste system. Meaning you’re a slave and can never not be a slave. High ranking courtesans had varying degrees of authority and power. Doesn’t make the history any more fun but reality is far more complicated in ways we spoiled modern people don’t understand nor even try to understand.
@@vistalover9607 i’m pretty sure that slavery is still slavery even if there’s no caste system
This is why we shouldn't rely on movies such as "The Memoirs of a Geisha", in exploring Japanese culture, coz such adaptations isn't that accurate & some could be misleading. Thanks for the video & clarification Lin-chan! 🎉💐☺️
The author actually knowingly misrepresented aspects of a geisha's life. The geisha he consulted, Mineko Iwasaki, has released her own memoirs in response if you would like to read those instead.
The women who Memoirs of a Geisha was based on hated the movie and book and said it was extremely misleading and sensationalized.
Fair, but Memoirs included pretty much all of this in the story. The relationships were more dramatic, but I don’t see a huge discrepancy in the actual structure.
@@BloodWiredplease do correct me if i'm wrong but as far as i know geisha aren't courtesans, that is an oiran. The book exaggerate some things like that coming of age ceremony/mizuage. Maikos that graduated to geishas didn't sell their virginities, they just finished their studies & moved from dorms (in which they got taken care of by the mother of the house and get to live for free) to live independently and schedule their own performance and most of them already got loyal patrons on their own. I read that some geishas did sleep with their patrons or even become a mistress though.
Memoirs is so bullshit, it makes Madama Butterfly's plot look sensible.
So sad. I would never let my daughter out of sight
Despite how toxic my mother was with me or my sister, because of our absent father, she would never allow us to be treated in such an inhumane way (exploitation, objectification), by other guys. She even told us that we should be carefull.
And just when my day couldn’t get better Linfamy blessed us with another video
Glad your day is going well :)
Kamuro and Shinzo were a bit like "Ladies in waiting" in the royal court.
I wonder if that was by design, immitating royalty?
Horrific disguise of what seems to be a soul selling business under the extraneous beauty of these costumes and colourful parades; it’s fascinating that once out of the system however many return to it like in the handmaiden
I know a person who liked these type of things and can’t describe the terrifying air of disgust I get when imagining these situations on point, a depressed internally old man grasping for a body of mute innocence right in front of him, pushing it back and forth to get a sound that would bring him back a feeling of
momental euphoria
This is fucking insane
Yeah, it's beyond repulsive. My soul hurts at the thought of all the women who've spent their lives being treated like this. For all the women who still are being treated like this. It's Evil.
you dare describe the R word here
@@juliagoetia Better prostitute than a peasant in those times.
@@VOlDNOVAhuh
@@starryskies113grape without the g
Fun fact, sekihan (the rice and red bean dish mentioned) is sometimes used to announce when a girl has started menstruating.
The amount of development the Japanese had with the red-lantern district is fascinating to me.
Also approve the amount of kny frames lol.
10:36 "It was like a college party and upstairs people are getting assaulte-" I don't think there's a funnier or more true throwaway line in this whole video than that 😂
It's interesting to see these videos explaining history and drawing parallels to modern time. Men being "loyal" to a courtesan while expecting special treatment reminds me of those stories pf idols getting in trouble for having boyfriends.
Yes, it is similar but there's a small difference: Idols are often pressured into keeping an innocent, playful and childlike image to appeal to the pedophi- I mean their fans, because idols are seen as property by their male fans, like dolls. If an idol as a boyfriend, it mean she's not virgin anymore, and worst of all, she has a LIFE OUTSIDE OF HER FANS. Those fans wants those girls to STAY virgins... like them.
So both courtesans and idols are seen as property by the men, but the way their bodies are sold to them are differents
@@LeoDBW"stay virgins like them". Harsh but true.
@@LeoDBW or maybe people are mad that they got lied to about who they're supporting? its an industry exploiting vulnerable lonely men, the fact that idols exist in the first place is because their fanbase isn't mentally healthy. no sympathy there.
@@kokujo-5092 "Lied"? They aren't products; "Haha, deception! we lied to you, these young girls are in fact human beings with their own life!"
Seriously, It's not the idols faults, that industry also prey on young girl sometimes as young as 13yo, and groom them into "perfect girls" who can't even make their own life choices, blame the higher ups and the managers who put these girls under so much pressure and sell them to these adult men.
@@LeoDBW yeah? that is the deceptions. they are presented as perfect young single girls. they're called idols, its in the name. most idols know what they're getting into. but even here you've now switched the blame onto hypothetical groomers instead of "pedophi-"/"idols are seen as property by their male fans, like dolls". the fanbase is not in the wrong for being weird, they are targetted as a demographic BECAUSE they are weird and being lied to leads them to keep being weird. its the idols and the idol industry at fault.
I was literally thinking awhile ago when will Linfamy post a new video then this appeared in my feed 🎉
The narrative and drawings are getting better and better! 😄👍
You make even the darkest topic funny. 😅 thanks for sharing
Imagine the huge amount of child s3x abuse that happen in those times. My god. 😥😥
Why do you think it was legal for so long?
@@Just_a_Gothbecause of pedos
I've said this before but if you really think it was horrible you would have no problem not censoring it. Unless UA-cam is being a dick and deleting comments again.
@@Just_a_Goth… idk..
I'm pretty sure there were rules
When I finally learn about Japanese history at school, your videos will help me pass every test. They teach me more than school and I can understand everything better
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I love the reference to Judas with the 30 silver coins.
History major here - top tier vid, did a research paper on this! ❤
You know, when I started reading and translating old Japanese stories, I was very surprised about how much they dedicated to making stories about love, marriage and. . . Other things. Apparently they enjoyed stirring romances and scandalous gossip as much as anyone else. By the way I've got a couple of videos out about stories that center marriage and sex if anyone is interested in hearing my personal rendition of some primary sources on these things.
The worst part is that people were thinking that it was the duty of the girl.
Nobody deserves this 😭 Now excuse me but I’m gonna hug my mom and tell her how much I love her for not selling me, even tho I am a bad child 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Which is called Ukiyo (浮世 or 浮き世), meaning "Floating World".
Also a homophone of 憂き世 (sorrowful world).
Your monotone voice and dry jokes makes this a lot funnier than depressing. "AR-15 are great, but a child's innocence is a better weapon" spilled my fucking water
The whole Geisha stuff is just a small part of Japans medieval prostitution system, not everyone got an education in arts and wore expensive clothes, most just were simple protitutes with cheap clothes and tons of makeup trying to look like Geishas or other high-class entertainers. Geishas were expensive, the normal prostitutes were for the simple folks
THANK GOD THIS DIED OUT. I mean, can you imagine if Left-Wingers normalized S-Work and saw nothing wrong with it as long as the Magical-Force called Consent was involved? Or Right-Wingers allowing children, the poorer the better, be tricked by the Military to join the Military, all well-documented by Youtubr Renegade-Cut?
these weren't geishas though, the courtesans were oiran and the common prostitutes were yuujo. geishas were kind of like idols nowadays, entertainers
You mentioned male coworkers working at the brothels, and it really peaked my curiosity because I assumed it was mainly women running these places. Do you have any videos about the male workers that I could watch?
The scouts to begin with, the "guards", the debt recoverors, owner's family, thats probably about it for the average brothel
@@evryatis9231 oh I see! Thanks for letting me know!
ua-cam.com/video/RgTLs9p8IpM/v-deo.html This one is about Kabuki Actors
ua-cam.com/video/PfmtfUskbjQ/v-deo.html There's one about "teahouses" they talk about male sex workers
@@evryatis9231were they hired as children or recruited as adults
Actually these male workers where sex workers themselves as well, usually young boys, cuz In Japan those days homosexuality was common, think they were called kagema
I love this video man but I'd really like to see other content involving other aspects of social history
I genuinely wish that you could teach me all history. You make it so digestible and entertaining
Tengen Uzui, the sound hashira from the anime Demon Slayer, nearly kidnaps several unwilling young girls that he doesn’t know to sell to the red light district. He’s supposed to be one of the good guys. Keep in mind this takes place in Taisho era Japan (early 20th century) not the Edo period.
While I still dislike him for that, I do understand that he was desperate and wanting to save his wives…people can and will do disgusting things to save their love ones.
^^ and in all fairness, they were explicitly going to be spies. I don't think he'd just sell them off and leave them there, lol.
@@seashellgarden2227yeah not in tengen’s character he told tanjiro and inosuke to leave when he realized they were endangered
yeah ds is pretty shit imo, writing wise and character wise.
He also married suma at 11. Let that fucking sink in, I hate him sm
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honestly when i heard ancient egypt had equal rights and no female oppression i was suppressed cause ive never heard of a country that did enslave, sell, or use women as some object for a treaty
"Good employees are hard to find; they're better groomed instead" 😂 Capitalism in a nutshell.
Capitalists don't train their employees, Silly. They expect workers to show up fully trained - but not TOO trained because then they'd be overqualified and harder to exploit !
You know what they say, the difference between capitalism and it's opposite communism is calling someone an employee or a worker
@@ChrisHeart-kr1uqBad troll 2/10 try harder next time
Like communist countries didn't had any low wage factory workers with poor living conditions
@@randomhumanofearth7267 LOL Capitalism bros so triggered 🤣🤣🤣 Only capitalists can feel this victimized while they're winning
"her kamuro can run down the streets like diarrhea" HELP IM SOBBING
Honestly though... This happened throughout history (not just in Japan) and still does in poor cultures.
Not only poor cultures
It happened with my aunt's friend, her sister took her on a trip but was trying to traffic her to a pimp by leaving her without any money in a far away town. Gladly she got saved by a guy with a car before anything could happen to her, this happened here in Brazil. The crazy thing is that we are very sensitive about this topic and today even the organized crime attacks groomers, domestic abusers and grapists.
Sadly not just poor cultures ether, ever heard of Jeffery Epstein? I think that dude alone exposes why pedos aren't sentence to death in the u.s
though more than poor cultures, the very rich ones have the worst of it, the problem is that they hide it very well;
Like the say: "the winners write the story"
...And the rich and successful are these winners right now, they'll chose the info you're being fed too.
Somehow simultaneously horrifying and adorable. Thanks for spreading the knowledge, Linfamy!
Ah yes, nothing says parental love more than selling your daughter for money :\
Or sons
@@ogfemto That too...
"She took the Mugen Train to aaaanywheeeeeere!"
And your wordplay is masterfully hilarious.
😂
This isn’t something that ever really stopped, sex trade is still running strong.
I love “spread the knowledge”
I looove the graphics and animations ! and jokes ! and it was actually so interesting !
Reminds how Spirited Away was set mostly in a pleasure house -- didn't realise until much later
Except it’s a bathhouse?? I would think the movie was based on the modern concept of a Japanese bathhouse instead of a historical on used as a pleasure house…
@@Meimoons Then you missed the part where Chihiro's name and identity were sold to "Grandma" and that all the workers of the bathhouse were attractive women in kimono attending to rich men/daemon
@@MeimoonsA bath house can also be a pleasure house
It was more of an metaphor, was a bath house but outside the metaphor meant pleasure house.
Yo! What's up Linfamy. Thanks again for new video, as always. By the way, life of being woman is much easier now than before cuz you have freedom and laws that can protect you. But everytime its not enough to protect to any unfortunate situations. Being a kid born in poor situation tends to experience sad life. Until you become adult, maybe you wish there is good samaritan grab you up to better place? Yeah long message. Great video,keep the good quality and knowledge as always. 👍
At this point, I've learned more about prostitutes from this channel than Game of Thrones
Excellent video as always, but for any Japan history fans I have sort of an off topic question....
Is there any TV Shows or Movies, that take place in Pre-Sengoku Japan? I just finished a Korean History binge with 6 or 7 TV shows (considering a Korean show on average spans 50 episodes, it took a while lol) and I have been wanting to delve into Japan history, however I have seen a ton of stuff that is set in the Sengoku/Edo periods but can find literally nothing during the Heian/Nara period. I found an anime that was set during the Heian that involves a little girl who's blind father is beheaded in front of her, it was mostly just depressing than exciting or interesting. Other than that I played a PS2 game Genji: Dawn of the Samurai set during the Heian, and Total War: Shogun 2 has a Taira vs Minamoto campaign. That about sums up all I could find.
What the name of the anime
Try Heike Monogatari, the Science Saru adaptation
1:01 "off to the brothel with you!" Almost made me choke on my dinner lmaooo
His analogies and commentary are just top tier😂
ikr? it's not like this is a disturbing topic or anything
They had to teach them not to kill themselves? Fuck, man. That’s depressing as shit.
I like how your not just relying on ancient art and anime cells. You actually used some original art.
Every time this channel pops up in my feed, the video is about Japanese women, their lives, and variations like courtesan, princesses and youkais.
I could mistake Linfamy as a dedicated Japanese Women history channel. Or is it really?
These one liners make it easier to hear about unspeakable practices 👍 Proud of you 👍
The script for this one had me spit my drink out 3 times 😂
I've gotta say, I love how you present such a dark topic with such dark, sarcastic humor. It's perfect.
"Sometimes life can be hard, and so can men."
What an opening lmao
Part of me wonders if there are stories of an abused prostitute returning to her parents after death for payback Ring/Grudge style.
That was not as dark as I expected. It was still pretty dark, though. The humor in this video certainly helped with that.
This dark humor is absolutely up my alley
AR-15s are great, but a child's innocence is a better weapon.
-Linfamy, 2023
"people were not fans of child labor..... laws"
i'm dying over here 🤣
This is some great ambience when creating a sound track
“Sometimes life can be hard, and so can men”
The fucking intro killed me💀
Damn your videos are funny AND educational, so glad to find your channel! 10/10
the first line killed me straightaway
I think that the saddest part was that the parents were expected to sell their daughters off like that...
Amazing. Enjoyed your video. Have a great weekend 👍🏼♥️
I always come for the history lesson but stay for the humor lol
Dude, you just gave me a great idea for a Dungeons and Dragons adventure: the PC's gotta save girls from kamuro life or kamuro from hooker life, all against powerful brothels. Dam! The intrigue, a battle of wits and weapons. Right on Lin 🤙
Rewatching...I'm soba forever. I hate most other noodles. My noodle shall not be used for hookerism! Now let's remember Honen and Miyamoto are with us, let's rid ourselves of kim Jong un
I like that you empathized that these women were being exploited, groomed and sexually assaulted throughout. One of the topics that needs to be handled maturely ykw
Father blesses us with history
Echoes of this can be seen in the lifecycle of maiko in modern Kyoto. A girl can be accepted into an okiya after she finishes middle school, around 15-16 years old. She becomes a shikomi for a year, then a maiko for five years (17-20 years old), and finally a geiko at around 21. As long as she doesn't marry, she can remain a geiko for as long as she likes. It is an occupation with a high turnover rate.
Well both of those are weird.
1 hookers getting jealous of men sleeping with other hookers because you were only allowed to be with 1 hooker at a time
2 the fucking weird part is little kids getting bought by a brothel due to crippling poverty and getting groomed into being professional...you get it im not saying that that word in the same sentence as children
Yeah history can be really fucked up
Its a non-compete clause.
Enormous amounts of wealth changed hands in the pleasure districts, businesses generally want to avoid clients and employees giving their money to others. It ensures an income for the courtesan if hes not allowed to spread his money too evenly to everyone in the brothel but rather focus on one particular woman. Her job is a lot more work than laying on her back, as alluded to with her music and dress education. These women were artists, performers, actresses; they knew how to work lighting, perfect their make up, tell stories, sing, dance and play instruments. They were entertainers of *all* kinds.
@@Nazuiko Basically like modern day OnlyFans or wherever these girls sell nudes or lewds. The photography, dressing, makeup, and constantly posting to on social media to get new patrons. Though they usually don't need to do a whole song and dance number.
@@sor3999 Are you REALLY comparing 7 to 9 year old children being trafficed into sex work and Onlyfans? What the fuck is wrong with you mate?
@@sor3999This is the biggest reach since halo.
it's absolutely hilarious, that youtube algorithm is showing me this right after i'm done playing fear and hunger
Loved the singing. Thank you.
It's okay, they learned how to outsource it from 1911-1945.
They even gave a 100% military discount 💀
YES... The BEST video`s on youtube !
"...getting assau- each people..." 😂😂😂
The narration is pure poetic comedy
“Sometimes life can be hard.. and so can men” DAWG 😭
10:27 WAS THE SCENE FROM FOOD WARS INTENTIONAL 😭😭
Very good!
I can't believe I missed this one's debut.
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Bro idk how to feel about this video…other than it’s a historical vid about how girls were treated in that time periods, which now makes sense to me on how women in anime are normally depicted, just eye-candy characters for pleasure 💀