the reason they were just standing there while she was having the “seizure” was bc she always used to do that. whenever she wasn’t getting her way, wanted attention, etc. kitty would fake pass out or seize. it was her way of controlling and getting attention
As someone who’s been sexually assaulted by their own uncle I never thought about passing down the torch onto my future kids. Generational trauma is so so horrible and normalized and I’m glad so many kids who experience it can turn their selves around and get through/ past it. I hate that this show is trying to make the parents seem like these saints or parents that had horrible children when you teach your kids certain behaviors and they pick up off of it. This is one of the saddest cases I’ve ever heard. I’ll never forgive kitty and Jose
@@nikrixxx6338 thank you! I appreciate it. It happened when I was abt 12/13 and had no sense of what sex actually was. He had done it to other girls too
Javier Bardim is such a great actor that during the phone scene with his mom he achieved the impossible; I actually felt bad for the effing guy for that moment.
Heartbreaking that the people who should protect you with their lives, are the ones who can hurt their own children. I have seen so many tragedies like this.
The amount of yelling and screaming the actors playing the brothers have done so far….Im pretty sure they’ve given themselves migraines after leaving the set😂😂
Its good they show how shitty the parents were but with how they really were especially the mother, it made them look like saints. Its disgusting how the dad lived through the kids and she was jealous that erik especially was getting so much attention when he was raping him! Both absolutely sick. Its a shame they didnt have normal parents. I thought showing what José did was interesting as many forget he was in the music industry. He scares me whenever i see photos of him, wnd javier bardem, my god i cant see him the same.
I were sexually assaulted as a kid (not by family) and emotionally abused by my mother my whole upbringing. During recent years I learned that she herself was sexually abused by family as a kid. Which explains somewhat her emotional abuse of me. I have always said that I don't want kids and I think that is partially because I never want any kid to go through the trauma I went through. Until I'm in place where I know I will be a good mother I will not have kids. I'm only 27, I got time.
Did you notice there’s some scenes that don’t line up with how the boys told it? The shooting, the school suspension, the will argument, and several others
Yeah because this the creators pretty much asked everyone around the case perspective except for the actual brothers perspective and it’s also a drama so they playing some things up like lyles anger issues are played up when apparently he was actually quite shy and withdrawn
@@lamilkman1796 I know the actors met with them. I’m ok with the creators not meeting with them if that’s true, and just letting the facts speak for themselves.
@@acoop9865 it’s not facts tho. A lot of it is speculation and rumor. There were facts that were literally left out of the show too. So it was not about “letting the facts speak for themselves”. It just seemed like a sensationalized money grab tbh. The writers didn’t seem to take the case seriously.
kitty never wanted kids. from the time she was pregnant with lyle she was telling everyone she didn’t want him and when he was 6 weeks old she tried to give him to his grandparents (jose’s parents) to raise and said that her and jose would come and visit when they went on their trips to and from the ski lodge
Thank god y'all posted! I'm sitting in my hurricane dungeon as i wait for hurricane Milton to hit me head on! So far you 2 have helped my nerves tremendously 💜 If y'all could say an extra prayer for me and my Florida fam 🙏🙏
I love you guys and your channel. I would recommend after finishing the show watching the documentary that came out on Monday about the brothers or doing a reaction on it because it’s a really good documentary.
Maybe in a way it is but personally what I took away from this episode was that in order to break that generational circle of trauma and abuse in the family the boys did what needed to be done. Like cutting away a piece of cancer so that the organ can live on. Even though it wasn’t pretty you can’t blame them because there was simply no other way around their dad.
A little, but it’s also meant to show you that the stories aren’t lining up in a few ways. There’s several scenes that are wildly different from how the boys tell them.
@@acoop9865 The show is supposed to have been combination of people's opinions or versions of what happened. It doesn't mean what the brothers said isn't the truth. We are not watching a documentary filled with facts. We are watching a dramatization with people's opinions all mixed up to create a show.
@@RescuePitties46 yeah I mean that’s pretty much my point exactly lol. But you are definitely meant to have some doubt about the boys’ story. The show clearly leans towards believing them, but it also includes a lot of stuff that is clearly intended to instill some doubt (I won’t ruin it if you haven’t finished it yet, but there’s a lot of small looks from Erik, and there’s a few big actions that come from Lyle especially)
There have been observed situations where a father is SA the kids and physically and smeshually R-ing the wife and for some reason the wife’s mind sorta fractures and copes by triangulating the kids and becoming jealous that they are stealing the attention and romance away from her. It’s really sick and very tragic, but not unheard of sadly. I’ve also known really rich couples where the wife’s contractual monthly allowance can be doubled if she weighs in monthly at a specific weight. It’s a really forked up situation.
I think I herad theres a menudo doc coming out where he indicates he was molested by someone he worked with and im not gone say its the dad but the timing is very coincidental
Many of the kids in Menudo were alleged to have been molested and raped by the adults around them, mainly Edgardo Diaz. One of them claimed to also have been raped by Jose Menendez who was head of RCA records before signing them to the label
Menudo has spoken for years about sexual abuse that was happening at RCA, it was just last year that one of the members named Jose as one of the people doing it.
I have been humming the soundtrack to this since I watched the episode the first time it’s so catchy and eerie at the same time. 2) I think this episode shows how and why there is still conflict around this case bc it’s told from a different perspective and what else could have been
Idk some people have the I could never talk to my dad a certain way but me lmao I grew up with my dad and he’s knows I’ll kick his ass if he ever tried to hurt me at the age of 20 😂 it’s jsut a respect thing I used to get hit a lot like how old timers would back in the day so he thought he could punk me still at the age of 19 and ever since one incident he’s been nice to me ever since 😂
all the scenes where the brothers stand up for themselves or argue back with their parents are apparently not accurate at all. erik especially testified in court that you just did not disagree with their dad, which is why it was such a big deal when lyle went to have that conversation with their father after erik confided in him. everyone around jose menendez also have confirmed that he had a massive presence and a strong personality, so his children were definitely not picking fights with him as implied in the show.
I hope yall arent those who believe this show & actually read up on the case & evidence. Ryan murphy is pos who doesnt believe abuse victims (aka the brothers) & tries to villainize the brothers who were constantly r@ped & abused in other ways by their father since they were kids & the mom knew & didnt do anything. & tried to humanize the disgusting parents who deserved worse than what they got.
They're gonna do a live stream where they discuss the true story. They did the same with Dhamer. Ryan Murphey made some choices I'm not a fan of but I saw nothing in this show that indicated it was villainizing the boys and sympathizes with the parents. They're humanized because they were human. They had nice moments like any abuser does. This doesn't paint them as the victims. If you want real anger towards a director who painted the villain as the victim, check out An American Crime about Sylvia Likens. Read the true story and then watch that film and you'll see true infuriating rage over the villain in that as sympathetic. She did nothing to show she cared. And wasn't sorry at all.
@@jacktilghman9797I mean the abuse cases I've read about that ended it death? If those victims actually found a way to fight back and it took killing I would 100% support them. Especially Junko and Sylvia.
@@filmfangirls9163 for either of them, I would agree, since they were A. Both minors, children that would have been otherwise helpless and B. Would have had to have at least injured their captors to escape. Neither of those two things apply to these two fully grown ass brothers. I do believe their dad was physically abusive to some degree, which any physical abuse is too much. But they stayed and killed them because these two were concerned about maintaining their status as sole beneficiaries, part of the reason they killed their mom as well.
i don't think it's normal to be afraid of a parent.. they should discipline properly, without fear as the weapon wielded. I'm glad you're closer to him, but some people end up hating their dad/mom for putting them through such fear.
You should respect your parents not fear them. Its hard to love someone you fear. The only fear I have of my parents is to dissapoint them. They have sacrifice everything to raise and loved me thats make me wanna make them proud and not dissapointed in me. The only way for children feel that way to their parents is through love, not fear.
@@robtintelnot9107 oh yeah I know some family used that method back in the day. Its very common actually. It doesnt qualify as abuse. I'm not sure about nowdays though. Is that even still allowed?
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Josè also drugged and raped a member of Menudo. He was a young teen at the time. Came forward last year 😢
Well he got his Karma ❤ love you bye ❤
Also, one of the former members of Menudo from Venezuela killed himself
My favorite thing in TV is when the producers take an extrem/dramatic scene and just put banger music over it. Fucking brilliant.
RIGHT THAT SCENE HAD NO BUSINESS BEING THAT GOOD
the reason they were just standing there while she was having the “seizure” was bc she always used to do that. whenever she wasn’t getting her way, wanted attention, etc. kitty would fake pass out or seize. it was her way of controlling and getting attention
As someone who’s been sexually assaulted by their own uncle I never thought about passing down the torch onto my future kids. Generational trauma is so so horrible and normalized and I’m glad so many kids who experience it can turn their selves around and get through/ past it. I hate that this show is trying to make the parents seem like these saints or parents that had horrible children when you teach your kids certain behaviors and they pick up off of it. This is one of the saddest cases I’ve ever heard. I’ll never forgive kitty and Jose
It takes a lot of courage to share that part of your story so I want to thank you. This comment really made me think 🙏🙏
@@nikrixxx6338 thank you! I appreciate it. It happened when I was abt 12/13 and had no sense of what sex actually was. He had done it to other girls too
@@zaleahpalmer5154 that's so horrible I'm sorry! You broke the cycle 🙏💜
@@nikrixxx6338 thank you!!! I don’t have any kids or anything but I know what I won’t be doing when I do have them.
Me too!
Ty for sharing your story. It’s a hard topic for society to talk about.😔
Javier Bardim is such a great actor that during the phone scene with his mom he achieved the impossible; I actually felt bad for the effing guy for that moment.
Real, hes my favorite
Yes, the soundtracks on this series are bangers
thank you for covering this case with empathy.
the way bridgette looked at u when u said i get it 😭 😭
Heartbreaking that the people who should protect you with their lives, are the ones who can hurt their own children. I have seen so many tragedies like this.
I’ve literally been checking you guys Chanel religiously for these vids
I just found you guys and y’all are amazing
The amount of yelling and screaming the actors playing the brothers have done so far….Im pretty sure they’ve given themselves migraines after leaving the set😂😂
Ricky Martin was in Menudo
Its good they show how shitty the parents were but with how they really were especially the mother, it made them look like saints. Its disgusting how the dad lived through the kids and she was jealous that erik especially was getting so much attention when he was raping him! Both absolutely sick. Its a shame they didnt have normal parents.
I thought showing what José did was interesting as many forget he was in the music industry. He scares me whenever i see photos of him, wnd javier bardem, my god i cant see him the same.
I haven’t watched the full video yet, but I just wanna say that I absolutely love y’all’s reactions!! ❤️
I were sexually assaulted as a kid (not by family) and emotionally abused by my mother my whole upbringing. During recent years I learned that she herself was sexually abused by family as a kid. Which explains somewhat her emotional abuse of me.
I have always said that I don't want kids and I think that is partially because I never want any kid to go through the trauma I went through. Until I'm in place where I know I will be a good mother I will not have kids. I'm only 27, I got time.
just a curious fact: menudo was SO SO FAMOUS in brazil, and latam in general loved them! my mom was part of a fanclub even
Did you notice there’s some scenes that don’t line up with how the boys told it? The shooting, the school suspension, the will argument, and several others
Yeah because this the creators pretty much asked everyone around the case perspective except for the actual brothers perspective and it’s also a drama so they playing some things up like lyles anger issues are played up when apparently he was actually quite shy and withdrawn
@@lamilkman1796 I know the actors met with them. I’m ok with the creators not meeting with them if that’s true, and just letting the facts speak for themselves.
@@acoop9865 it’s not facts tho. A lot of it is speculation and rumor. There were facts that were literally left out of the show too. So it was not about “letting the facts speak for themselves”.
It just seemed like a sensationalized money grab tbh. The writers didn’t seem to take the case seriously.
kitty never wanted kids. from the time she was pregnant with lyle she was telling everyone she didn’t want him and when he was 6 weeks old she tried to give him to his grandparents (jose’s parents) to raise and said that her and jose would come and visit when they went on their trips to and from the ski lodge
Thank god y'all posted! I'm sitting in my hurricane dungeon as i wait for hurricane Milton to hit me head on! So far you 2 have helped my nerves tremendously 💜 If y'all could say an extra prayer for me and my Florida fam 🙏🙏
im also in florida, stay safe
Stay safe guys God bless you ❤
@@stonedkittybatz it's literally the calm before the storm! Rain and wind of course but not too bad yet. Stay safe fellow Floridian 🙏
@@ellie5995 thank you!
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I love you guys and your channel. I would recommend after finishing the show watching the documentary that came out on Monday about the brothers or doing a reaction on it because it’s a really good documentary.
You guys should react to Grotesquerie!!!! It’s so good! ❤
I’ve been waiting to watch it
I’ve been waiting for you to get to this episode. I genuinely couldn’t tell if this episode was supposed to humanize Jose and Kitty or not.
Maybe in a way it is but personally what I took away from this episode was that in order to break that generational circle of trauma and abuse in the family the boys did what needed to be done. Like cutting away a piece of cancer so that the organ can live on. Even though it wasn’t pretty you can’t blame them because there was simply no other way around their dad.
@@ijunidaagreed.
A little, but it’s also meant to show you that the stories aren’t lining up in a few ways. There’s several scenes that are wildly different from how the boys tell them.
@@acoop9865 The show is supposed to have been combination of people's opinions or versions of what happened. It doesn't mean what the brothers said isn't the truth. We are not watching a documentary filled with facts. We are watching a dramatization with people's opinions all mixed up to create a show.
@@RescuePitties46 yeah I mean that’s pretty much my point exactly lol. But you are definitely meant to have some doubt about the boys’ story. The show clearly leans towards believing them, but it also includes a lot of stuff that is clearly intended to instill some doubt (I won’t ruin it if you haven’t finished it yet, but there’s a lot of small looks from Erik, and there’s a few big actions that come from Lyle especially)
SELF MADE MEN PUT HEAVY ON THE HEADS OF THEIR SONS!! SAD😰
ALL RICH MEN BECOME ENTITLED, AS THEIR CHILDREN BECOME!!!!
There have been observed situations where a father is SA the kids and physically and smeshually R-ing the wife and for some reason the wife’s mind sorta fractures and copes by triangulating the kids and becoming jealous that they are stealing the attention and romance away from her. It’s really sick and very tragic, but not unheard of sadly.
I’ve also known really rich couples where the wife’s contractual monthly allowance can be doubled if she weighs in monthly at a specific weight. It’s a really forked up situation.
THEIR PARENT S MADE THOSE BOYS CRAZY!!! SO INSENSITIVE!!!😰😰😰😱😱😱
I preferred this over Dhamer and I'm curious how they're gonna do Gein!
This story is also egregious but Dahmer left me sick to my stomach😭
@@nonofyourbusiness8651true. Evan Peters did a very good job.
AFTER THIS, PLEASE WHATCHING THE DOCUMENTARY IS SO REAL !!!
THE ACTORS ARE VERY GOOD!!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Javier Bardem is great!!!! Their dad was EVIL!! 😈👿
I think I herad theres a menudo doc coming out where he indicates he was molested by someone he worked with and im not gone say its the dad but the timing is very coincidental
Many of the kids in Menudo were alleged to have been molested and raped by the adults around them, mainly Edgardo Diaz. One of them claimed to also have been raped by Jose Menendez who was head of RCA records before signing them to the label
it came out last year on peacock Menendez + Menudo: Boys Betrayed
one of the members did come out & say jose menendez SA’d him
yes, their story is very sad
Menudo has spoken for years about sexual abuse that was happening at RCA, it was just last year that one of the members named Jose as one of the people doing it.
FINALLY I WAS WAITING FOR UR REACTION .
agreed, the soundtrack on this show is incredible
I have been humming the soundtrack to this since I watched the episode the first time it’s so catchy and eerie at the same time. 2) I think this episode shows how and why there is still conflict around this case bc it’s told from a different perspective and what else could have been
After this, you should watch the real court testimony. It will break your heart.
just so you know, josé sexually abused roy, one of the kids in menudo, who was also abused by their manager. the menudo's group story is just horrible
Idk some people have the I could never talk to my dad a certain way but me lmao I grew up with my dad and he’s knows I’ll kick his ass if he ever tried to hurt me at the age of 20 😂 it’s jsut a respect thing I used to get hit a lot like how old timers would back in the day so he thought he could punk me still at the age of 19 and ever since one incident he’s been nice to me ever since 😂
LOTS OF OUR SENATORS AND REPS FAMILIES ARE A MESS!!! TRYNG TO BE PERFECT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! POLITICIANS ARE FULL OF IT!!!!😵😵😵😡😠😡😠
YOU GUYS HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE NEW ICE NINE KILLS SONG BASED OFF OF TERRIFIER!!! Its soooo good😭😭😭
"MENUDO" BOY BAND WITH RICKY MARTIN "LA VITA LOCA" HE'S OPENLY GAY...😳😳😳
I’m begging you guys react to Agatha all along 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
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Happ Birthday Bridget!!! I hope you had a great time!!
THE PARENTS MIGHT'VE KILLED THEIR SONS!!!!
I HAVE ONE SON, AND WOULDN'T CONSIDER ANY OF THEIR PARENT'S MOVES!!!!😱😱😱😱
4:12 took me out I thought that was her after math too😂
all the scenes where the brothers stand up for themselves or argue back with their parents are apparently not accurate at all. erik especially testified in court that you just did not disagree with their dad, which is why it was such a big deal when lyle went to have that conversation with their father after erik confided in him. everyone around jose menendez also have confirmed that he had a massive presence and a strong personality, so his children were definitely not picking fights with him as implied in the show.
Javier Bardem .❤
I can't wait till you see more Nathan Lane scenes in the last few episodes.
This makes me so agitated because their parents remind me of my grandparents minus the s3xual stuff !
Im glad i finally saw the real case and interviews cause this show is too dramatic 😭🤣
watch the new doc after you finish the show
FINALLYYYYY
I will defend this show with everything I have! So brilliant ❤
I hope yall arent those who believe this show & actually read up on the case & evidence. Ryan murphy is pos who doesnt believe abuse victims (aka the brothers) & tries to villainize the brothers who were constantly r@ped & abused in other ways by their father since they were kids & the mom knew & didnt do anything. & tried to humanize the disgusting parents who deserved worse than what they got.
They're gonna do a live stream where they discuss the true story. They did the same with Dhamer. Ryan Murphey made some choices I'm not a fan of but I saw nothing in this show that indicated it was villainizing the boys and sympathizes with the parents. They're humanized because they were human. They had nice moments like any abuser does. This doesn't paint them as the victims. If you want real anger towards a director who painted the villain as the victim, check out An American Crime about Sylvia Likens. Read the true story and then watch that film and you'll see true infuriating rage over the villain in that as sympathetic. She did nothing to show she cared. And wasn't sorry at all.
Idk I disagree, regardless of abuse , it’s never an excuse for premeditated murder.
@@jacktilghman9797I mean the abuse cases I've read about that ended it death? If those victims actually found a way to fight back and it took killing I would 100% support them. Especially Junko and Sylvia.
@@jacktilghman9797the parents deserved it 100%
@@filmfangirls9163 for either of them, I would agree, since they were A. Both minors, children that would have been otherwise helpless and B. Would have had to have at least injured their captors to escape. Neither of those two things apply to these two fully grown ass brothers. I do believe their dad was physically abusive to some degree, which any physical abuse is too much. But they stayed and killed them because these two were concerned about maintaining their status as sole beneficiaries, part of the reason they killed their mom as well.
It's normal to be afraid of your dad. It wasn't till my late 20s that he was my best friend.
i don't think it's normal to be afraid of a parent.. they should discipline properly, without fear as the weapon wielded. I'm glad you're closer to him, but some people end up hating their dad/mom for putting them through such fear.
Not it definitely isn't normal
You should respect your parents not fear them. Its hard to love someone you fear. The only fear I have of my parents is to dissapoint them. They have sacrifice everything to raise and loved me thats make me wanna make them proud and not dissapointed in me. The only way for children feel that way to their parents is through love, not fear.
Maybe we're talking about two different things here. My dad didn't abuse me. I got disciplined when I screwed up. No kid likes getting the belt.
@@robtintelnot9107 oh yeah I know some family used that method back in the day. Its very common actually. It doesnt qualify as abuse. I'm not sure about nowdays though. Is that even still allowed?