Bry, you saying that Raising Dion is not being respectful of the medium is the only disrespectful thing here on this video. The stories and art are what the comic medium is primarily about and the creators should be paid directly as much as possible. I love this trend and I hope more indi creators go this route till it becomes the norm. If you love comics to collect stories and art this is a wonderful thing. If you love comics for their investment potential my argument is you are not an enthusiast of the medium and instead an enthusiast of business, which is totally respectable in its own right, but to say these creators are not respecting the medium is wrong.
@@jnicholsnicholsI agree. But I presume Bry doesn't mean 'respectful' in that way. I imagine he means 'mindful of how the industry works'. I mean, I don't really agree overly with that either, but I don't think Bry means to suggest that he thinks the publisher is being disrespectful.
If you didn’t make this comment than I was going to. The only thing print on demand is disrespecting is resellers & speculators Comics are meant to be read and enjoyed first.
@@jnicholsnichols I thought this would be a neat video but all I see is someone thinking that comic industry is only for speculators? What the heck, I have never purchased a comic because I thought it was special and would increase in value. I buy because I want to read the author and artist's work. If anything is disrespectful it's this mentality that comics are all about potential value. Not going to subscribe and not even going to finish the video.
The only people that find print on demand disrespectful are people trying to make money on comics. This includes investors, flippers and the like people that collect for the love of the books are just glad to be able to get what they love at a fair price.
Print on demand comics have been there for ages on Amazon. The thing is, those creators usually know two things: they can't afford to print hundreds of copies at once and store these forever and underground books usually don't sell out (low demand). Raising Dion is an exception, because it got a tv show now, but the print on demand model is not disrespectful of the medium at all. But it is silly that people are selling their copies for a higher price than the on-demand price, that's not very friendly of them. Also you talk about the importance of print count as if we know the print count of currently published comic books, which we don't!
Could not disagree more about Dion. Comics were never written with "collectors" in mind. They're for readers. People collect everything, collectors have to adapt to the creators, not the other way around. The value to collectors reflects all the factors you discussed... print run etc. Collector groups having notices like the buyer beware section is totally adequate IMO.
As a publisher, I would agree to disagree on print on demand point. Print run/print total doesn't come into play until you apply rarity/distribution to it. Print on demand falls into the same category as ratio variants or any other manufactured ratio book. Only the creator/publisher would truly know the total count of copies made when it comes to print on demand. As far as batch or printing, it's more of a want of the collector to know to drive value up on a book than the publisher making a pure designation of a run. Granted, most people are you to physical distribution from companies like Diamond, Luna, Seguin, etc. But even the number reported as bought/ distributed to them isn't the total number printed by creator/publisher. This problem isn't going to be addressed properly by all sides of the industry. If anything it just brings up the agreement of you're not a "real" publisher unless you doing offset printing than transparency in total numbers of copies. Just something to think about.
Weird take from my perspective to say a print on demand comic is disrespectful of the medium That would make any print on demand toy, apparel, board game, poster, or book "disrespectful" of the medium by that standard.
I agree with you that grading counterfeit or altered comics with blue labels is somewhat misleading. I bought a Marvel Special Edition #15 CBCS graded with a blue label. And while I inspected the book , I didn't think to inspect the label . Turns out that it was a restored copy, (which was noted on the... Blue label.) While I admit that it was on me for not inspecting the label, having labels that are at first glance the same as the universal grade labels can set people up to make expensive mistakes. Thanks for sharing.
Dont know why the segment anout cerebus and cgc grading counterfit reminded me of the scene from tommy boy saying he'd crap in a box and mark it guarunteed, he has time.
Wondering why you put Gen-13 gold on the list. Big fan of the series but if you search for it it’s like non existence. I think if you are a fan then get it for your collection.
As a GEN 13 collector, I want that gold foil. Great piece of art, looks great. Kudos to MyComicShop for informing us by writing that it was a counterfeit. Who ever owns the signed copy is lucky lol J Scott had no idea. I'm sure he's aware now however.
CGC grading older counterfeits is because there is a market for niche stuff like that. Questionable for sure but CGC is going to put anything collectible in a case.
i would think grading the counterfeit is good for the community as long as it’s identified as such because then you know for sure what you are getting. it’s too easy for ungraded counterfeit books to trick people
Coming from someone who bought this like the month it released Netflix didn’t put enough money into Raising Dion, I watched it a bit but the costumes and CGI were bad at times.
I feel like the counterfeits graded are of books that hold some sort of significance even in counterfeit form. Like the fact that they are old counterfeits make them collectible themselves.
I've had the (I assume) unique experience of comparing a Cerebus 1 counterfeit to the real deal in person (about 25 years ago), and it was crazy to see the very small differences. Only reason I knew it was counterfeit is because the shop owner explained it to me. Recently, I compared a CGC 9.8 Cry for Dawn 1 to a counterfeit version that was raw, and in the case of the counterfeit, it had a very evident moiré pattern, which happens when an already-printed piece is scanned for reproduction. It's difficult to explain through typing what that is, but I was an Creative Director at a print shop for 10 years, and I would see that on occasion from untrained graphic designers and frankly "hacks". You really have to watch out on indie books, even up to the late '90s. I personally own a Johnny the Homicidal Maniac 3rd print that was graded by CGC as a 1st print. The kicker there is that you can see what printing it is from outside the case if you know how to check (which I do). Just a blunder by CGC but I'm not cracking it because it's a great teaching opportunity for that series. In any case, great video and it's always good to spread the knowledge!
I forgot whose video I was watching, but it was someone walking through one of the cons and they stopped by a booth to talk to an artist they knew. This artist told them they were working on adding gold foil to someone else's comic art. I have seen these kinds of remarks done, but they are usually divulged to the buyers if they aren't already aware. Like isn't there someone remarking books like Venom Lethal protector #1 and Spawn #1? Also, can you lower the volume of the click & subscribe animation? It is louder than Bry's own volume and obscures what he is saying for a second.
Interesting topic and something I guess I haven’t thought much about before. CGC will grade anything if you pay for it I guess. Great video man. Keep killing it.
The "Gold Edition" of Gen-13 is widely known as not original and is still widly sought-after by Gen-13 collectors. I am one of them. I will not feel my Gen-13 collection will be complete without this "variant" 😁
Red Hood #25: KCC has to actually read the book…it’s not about the cover (alrhiugh the Yasmine Putri covers are great in this series), It is a key in the sense of a pivotal moment in the development of the Red Hood character. In issue #24, Jason crosses an irreversible line by shooting Penguin in the head, instantly killing him. The fallout pits him in a brutal confrontation with Batman, who condemns him for breaking the no-kill rule, severing Jason’s ties to the Bat-family. This issue also marks the end of the Outlaws, with Jason parting ways with his team. From then on, the series is titled Red Hood: Outlaw, reflecting Jason’s darker, more independent path. It’s gradually climbed up in value over time with the right mix of scarcity and good writing. I suggest tracking one down and reading through it before passing judgement.
Trying outside-the-box things like print on demand isn’t inherently disrespectful to the hobby. It’ll work or it won’t work. It’ll find its own audience if enough people enjoy it. Either way, I believe new ideas are important and bring innovation and exposure to the hobby.
How is the Gen 13 different then acetate covers? They would be altered, not counterfeit. No different then getting a remark or signature. Simply, counterfeit is the wrong word to use in this situation. Altered cover, why do people constantly feel the need to redefine words?
@@sirrickthe2nd583key collector and my comic shop called it counterfeit, the point of the video is not to correct people on the misuse of words. I just wanted to talk about what happened with the book.
@@sirrickthe2nd583 but that's the point he didn't conterfit anything, he altered The cover of comics he bought from the publisher, but it was still an original Gen 13 issue #1. Counterfeit would have been if he had printed his own copies of the comics and sold them as original. Was it ethical? not even a little, but it wasn't counterfeit.
Wow.. alot of information right here.. very informative. I have to say as informative and intelligient as this is.. lets not forget .. its about the stories you like. Dont get lost in the "collectors mind" and enjoy your books. However like I said.. great video!
Quite a few key books listed on eBay that have the term facsimile in the description but they look to be very convincing counterfeits 1 for 1 reproductions almost indistinguishable from the originals.
It takes a lot for an unknown creator to get access to production for their work and your take on the book surprised me. Liu could have had hard copies printed, but that takes cash that he might not have had access to. He could have shopped it around to publishers, but that also takes a time investment and then there's no assurance at all that the book would ever see the light of day. So, print-on-demand is the option that's left. There are countless POD comics and graphic novels available right now by creators facing those same constraints and limitations and you suggesting that they have an obligation before themselves to the collector is a hard miss. Being collected is, historically, a book's end-of-life position after acquisition and reading, which will never happpen if it doesn't get published, sold, and read. Are those other POD creators obligated to collectors, too, even though they aren't optioned?
I'm a reader and a collector, so the idea of on-demand printing sparks a debate within me...though it's not much of a debate. If an indie creator wants to print on demand, so be it, and collectors can go kick rocks if they/we don't like it. Comics are primarily meant to be read and enjoyed, with collectability counting for a small subset of people who assign a value to the book based on scarcity and / or how noteworthy the story / art is. That small subset of people shouldn't force the creator of the story to work within a framework that suits collectors when more flexible options exist. I'm not opposed to the idea of having a first print run separate from the on-demand books, but why force a creator to stuff themselves into a rigid box just for the few who want to slab the comic and know that's somehow special from the others? I also disagree that CGC shouldn't be grading counterfeit comics. Their criteria doesn't say that the item must be authentic. They just say that they'll verify that the item is what it says it is, and label it as such. If their label says "counterfeit", that's good enough for me. It's buyer beware at that point. Thanks for another valuable video, Bry. Take good care.
Very interesting video and topics, very helpful. The acknowledged grading and retailing of "counterfeit" books especially by established players like MyComicShop and CGC is fascinating. If the books are clearly and conspicuously disclosed as "COUNTERFEIT" then two things: (i) putting aside the retailer or grader, doesn't the original owner have a copyright or trademark claim against the counterfeit(er)?--that's how counterfeits are usually dealt with in the real world; (ii) why is there that much interest in knock-offs to create a viable counterfeit market in the first place? Who is buying those and why?
First. Wow Cerebus 1 is amazing and to think that minute red outline is the difference between the real and fake. I have always been fearful of the comic industry and AI making books that look identical. The naked eye and new users would hardly notice. What a shame.
I understand that collectors like print runs but the reason for comics should be for reading first and foremost IMO. If no one is reading comics anymore and just collecting what is the point?
I see nothing wrong with grading counterfeit comics as long as they are clearly marked as such. As mentioned in your video, some of the counterfeits have a back story, which is part of the comics industry. I have seen counterfeit ancient Roman coins, which are rarer than their real counterparts and more vaulable.
First of all is this a new change in CGC’s grading standards. Second if so, did this change happen within the last few years post Blackstone’s purchase of CGC?
I know the reason why counterfeit money is confiscated by police is to take it out of circulation. CGC grading fake comics does two things; 1. makes sure they earn their money for the service, 2. makes the issue harder to be sold as real. I don't think they could just confiscate it or destroy it.
CGC has green and purple labels. It's absolutely ridiculous they don't have red labels for counterfeit. That is irresponsible to the point of being disreputable. Yes, if you're buying a $10k comic, do your research, but it's also understandable that a person sees the blue label and thinks "sure thing."
Bry, you saying that Raising Dion is not being respectful of the medium is the only disrespectful thing here on this video. The stories and art are what the comic medium is primarily about and the creators should be paid directly as much as possible. I love this trend and I hope more indi creators go this route till it becomes the norm. If you love comics to collect stories and art this is a wonderful thing. If you love comics for their investment potential my argument is you are not an enthusiast of the medium and instead an enthusiast of business, which is totally respectable in its own right, but to say these creators are not respecting the medium is wrong.
I agree with this comment. This is the first Brys comics video I have came across and this is the first thing I hear. makes me hesitant on subscribing
@@jnicholsnicholsI agree. But I presume Bry doesn't mean 'respectful' in that way. I imagine he means 'mindful of how the industry works'.
I mean, I don't really agree overly with that either, but I don't think Bry means to suggest that he thinks the publisher is being disrespectful.
If you didn’t make this comment than I was going to. The only thing print on demand is disrespecting is resellers & speculators
Comics are meant to be read and enjoyed first.
@@jnicholsnichols I thought this would be a neat video but all I see is someone thinking that comic industry is only for speculators? What the heck, I have never purchased a comic because I thought it was special and would increase in value. I buy because I want to read the author and artist's work. If anything is disrespectful it's this mentality that comics are all about potential value. Not going to subscribe and not even going to finish the video.
Totally agree
Technically, the Gen 13 Gold foil is not a counterfeit edition. its a regular edition that was modified after production.
The only people that find print on demand disrespectful are people trying to make money on comics. This includes investors, flippers and the like people that collect for the love of the books are just glad to be able to get what they love at a fair price.
Print on demand comics have been there for ages on Amazon. The thing is, those creators usually know two things: they can't afford to print hundreds of copies at once and store these forever and underground books usually don't sell out (low demand). Raising Dion is an exception, because it got a tv show now, but the print on demand model is not disrespectful of the medium at all. But it is silly that people are selling their copies for a higher price than the on-demand price, that's not very friendly of them. Also you talk about the importance of print count as if we know the print count of currently published comic books, which we don't!
Could not disagree more about Dion. Comics were never written with "collectors" in mind. They're for readers. People collect everything, collectors have to adapt to the creators, not the other way around. The value to collectors reflects all the factors you discussed... print run etc. Collector groups having notices like the buyer beware section is totally adequate IMO.
As a publisher, I would agree to disagree on print on demand point. Print run/print total doesn't come into play until you apply rarity/distribution to it. Print on demand falls into the same category as ratio variants or any other manufactured ratio book. Only the creator/publisher would truly know the total count of copies made when it comes to print on demand.
As far as batch or printing, it's more of a want of the collector to know to drive value up on a book than the publisher making a pure designation of a run. Granted, most people are you to physical distribution from companies like Diamond, Luna, Seguin, etc. But even the number reported as bought/ distributed to them isn't the total number printed by creator/publisher.
This problem isn't going to be addressed properly by all sides of the industry. If anything it just brings up the agreement of you're not a "real" publisher unless you doing offset printing than transparency in total numbers of copies.
Just something to think about.
Buyer beware shouldn't be a category, it should be included with every category
Keep up the great work! As a newer collector, your content is very helpful
Really cool that key issue comics put this list out. Helps to keep an eye out for counterfeits
Weird take from my perspective to say a print on demand comic is disrespectful of the medium
That would make any print on demand toy, apparel, board game, poster, or book "disrespectful" of the medium by that standard.
Bro, I keep up the great work. You're a good dealer and take care of people. You're in the community and we appreciate you
I agree with you that grading counterfeit or altered comics with blue labels is somewhat misleading. I bought a Marvel Special Edition #15 CBCS graded with a blue label. And while I inspected the book , I didn't think to inspect the label . Turns out that it was a restored copy, (which was noted on the... Blue label.) While I admit that it was on me for not inspecting the label, having labels that are at first glance the same as the universal grade labels can set people up to make expensive mistakes.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for making me aware of buyer beware
Additionally, your right why is CGC allowing this to be in the census. Man, all sorts of red flags going off now.
yup, always keep your eyes open for the better deal. don't over pay on things. that is one lesson i have learned over things.
Bry, started getting back into collecting after a long hiatus. Thanks for the videos. They are quite informative.
Thanks Bry. Appreciate the update during the holidays
Just found you this month you make some great videos. Keep up the good work
Welcome my friend!
Dont know why the segment anout cerebus and cgc grading counterfit reminded me of the scene from tommy boy saying he'd crap in a box and mark it guarunteed, he has time.
Nice, keep up the great content.
Im new to collecting and I love your videos. They help me a lot
Nice video. Merry Christmas Bry.
Great info, always looking forward to all your videos
It's always in the back of my mind when buying more expensive books online that it might somehow be fake.
I'm glad someone is pointing out when items are going for too much. Great info to share with the community.
Thanks for the educational videos…Merry Christmas 🎄
Great information. Thanks Bry!
Wondering why you put Gen-13 gold on the list. Big fan of the series but if you search for it it’s like non existence. I think if you are a fan then get it for your collection.
as always, thanks for keeping us informed
I agree. Fake should not be slabbed
Thanks for the video always enjoy it
As a GEN 13 collector, I want that gold foil. Great piece of art, looks great. Kudos to MyComicShop for informing us by writing that it was a counterfeit. Who ever owns the signed copy is lucky lol J Scott had no idea. I'm sure he's aware now however.
Good looking out for everyone Bry! Hope your "Herbie" book gets some love eventually!
I think another watch out is all these marvel facsimiles of modern books that look almost exactly the same as the original.
Some look way to close
Thank you...very informative
CGC grading older counterfeits is because there is a market for niche stuff like that. Questionable for sure but CGC is going to put anything collectible in a case.
Very interesting. Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas!
Interesting video. Thanks for the information! I’m here via Raph’s Retro-comics and I subscribed.
Appreciate the info. Good to know.
Appreciate what you do for the community Bry.
Great video Bry!
Thanks for the heads up on those books Bry! You really have a good grip on this kind of stuff.
I think the idea of printing your own comics is very interesting.
Thanks for the heads up!
Very interesting, especially the CGC grading issue. Agree, only grade authentic books.
Thanks, Happy Holidays
Thanks for the heads up.
What up Bry! Love the information's.
Very interesting thanks for the heads up I didn't know Key collector had this.
Shenanigans - Buyer beware - it never ends
Always a great video
Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄
Love the videos
Great video!
i would think grading the counterfeit is good for the community as long as it’s identified as such because then you know for sure what you are getting. it’s too easy for ungraded counterfeit books to trick people
Always appreciate your “community awareness” videos! Thx
Damn never heard of a counterfeit comic that's crazy. Awesome new feature from keycollector
Coming from someone who bought this like the month it released Netflix didn’t put enough money into Raising Dion, I watched it a bit but the costumes and CGI were bad at times.
I feel like the counterfeits graded are of books that hold some sort of significance even in counterfeit form. Like the fact that they are old counterfeits make them collectible themselves.
Specifically in regards to the Cerebus 1*
Great info!
I've had the (I assume) unique experience of comparing a Cerebus 1 counterfeit to the real deal in person (about 25 years ago), and it was crazy to see the very small differences. Only reason I knew it was counterfeit is because the shop owner explained it to me.
Recently, I compared a CGC 9.8 Cry for Dawn 1 to a counterfeit version that was raw, and in the case of the counterfeit, it had a very evident moiré pattern, which happens when an already-printed piece is scanned for reproduction. It's difficult to explain through typing what that is, but I was an Creative Director at a print shop for 10 years, and I would see that on occasion from untrained graphic designers and frankly "hacks".
You really have to watch out on indie books, even up to the late '90s. I personally own a Johnny the Homicidal Maniac 3rd print that was graded by CGC as a 1st print. The kicker there is that you can see what printing it is from outside the case if you know how to check (which I do). Just a blunder by CGC but I'm not cracking it because it's a great teaching opportunity for that series.
In any case, great video and it's always good to spread the knowledge!
You’re a wealth of knowledge my friend!
@@BrysComics I'm great at parties! 🤣
I didn't know about that Buyer Beware section on Key Collector...time to do some browsing.
Well they can have a print on demand and make the print run go up to 1000 copies and after that, a new 2nd label added or a new cover added.
I forgot whose video I was watching, but it was someone walking through one of the cons and they stopped by a booth to talk to an artist they knew. This artist told them they were working on adding gold foil to someone else's comic art. I have seen these kinds of remarks done, but they are usually divulged to the buyers if they aren't already aware. Like isn't there someone remarking books like Venom Lethal protector #1 and Spawn #1?
Also, can you lower the volume of the click & subscribe animation? It is louder than Bry's own volume and obscures what he is saying for a second.
Will do, thanks for the heads up!
Interesting topic and something I guess I haven’t thought much about before. CGC will grade anything if you pay for it I guess. Great video man. Keep killing it.
Thanks for the share Bry! Key Collector has so many great categories. SALUTE
Thanks for the video Bry; good information that I was unaware of. What an “emotional” hobby, huh? Keep grinding bro!✌️
Happy Holidays
The "Gold Edition" of Gen-13 is widely known as not original and is still widly sought-after by Gen-13 collectors. I am one of them. I will not feel my Gen-13 collection will be complete without this "variant" 😁
Red Hood #25: KCC has to actually read the book…it’s not about the cover (alrhiugh the Yasmine Putri covers are great in this series),
It is a key in the sense of a pivotal moment in the development of the Red Hood character.
In issue #24, Jason crosses an irreversible line by shooting Penguin in the head, instantly killing him. The fallout pits him in a brutal confrontation with Batman, who condemns him for breaking the no-kill rule, severing Jason’s ties to the Bat-family. This issue also marks the end of the Outlaws, with Jason parting ways with his team. From then on, the series is titled Red Hood: Outlaw, reflecting Jason’s darker, more independent path.
It’s gradually climbed up in value over time with the right mix of scarcity and good writing. I suggest tracking one down and reading through it before passing judgement.
Hello. WoW! I would think that maybe a 'pink' label or such would at least be more visible. I have some old counterfeit moola..... haha!
Great info 👍
Great info.
Trying outside-the-box things like print on demand isn’t inherently disrespectful to the hobby. It’ll work or it won’t work. It’ll find its own audience if enough people enjoy it. Either way, I believe new ideas are important and bring innovation and exposure to the hobby.
Interesting look at some oddities on the aftermarker
Gotta check out the “be aware” section
Shoutout to keycollector for having a section for these kind of books
How is the Gen 13 different then acetate covers? They would be altered, not counterfeit. No different then getting a remark or signature. Simply, counterfeit is the wrong word to use in this situation. Altered cover, why do people constantly feel the need to redefine words?
You’re right, it’s just semantics 🤪
@@BrysComics counterfeiting is a crime, alteration of one's property is not. I wouldn't call that semantics.
@@sirrickthe2nd583key collector and my comic shop called it counterfeit, the point of the video is not to correct people on the misuse of words. I just wanted to talk about what happened with the book.
@@sirrickthe2nd583 but that's the point he didn't conterfit anything, he altered The cover of comics he bought from the publisher, but it was still an original Gen 13 issue #1. Counterfeit would have been if he had printed his own copies of the comics and sold them as original. Was it ethical? not even a little, but it wasn't counterfeit.
Wow.. alot of information right here.. very informative. I have to say as informative and intelligient as this is.. lets not forget .. its about the stories you like. Dont get lost in the "collectors mind" and enjoy your books. However like I said.. great video!
Quite a few key books listed on eBay that have the term facsimile in the description but they look to be very convincing counterfeits 1 for 1 reproductions almost indistinguishable from the originals.
It takes a lot for an unknown creator to get access to production for their work and your take on the book surprised me. Liu could have had hard copies printed, but that takes cash that he might not have had access to. He could have shopped it around to publishers, but that also takes a time investment and then there's no assurance at all that the book would ever see the light of day. So, print-on-demand is the option that's left. There are countless POD comics and graphic novels available right now by creators facing those same constraints and limitations and you suggesting that they have an obligation before themselves to the collector is a hard miss. Being collected is, historically, a book's end-of-life position after acquisition and reading, which will never happpen if it doesn't get published, sold, and read. Are those other POD creators obligated to collectors, too, even though they aren't optioned?
I'm a reader and a collector, so the idea of on-demand printing sparks a debate within me...though it's not much of a debate. If an indie creator wants to print on demand, so be it, and collectors can go kick rocks if they/we don't like it. Comics are primarily meant to be read and enjoyed, with collectability counting for a small subset of people who assign a value to the book based on scarcity and / or how noteworthy the story / art is. That small subset of people shouldn't force the creator of the story to work within a framework that suits collectors when more flexible options exist. I'm not opposed to the idea of having a first print run separate from the on-demand books, but why force a creator to stuff themselves into a rigid box just for the few who want to slab the comic and know that's somehow special from the others?
I also disagree that CGC shouldn't be grading counterfeit comics. Their criteria doesn't say that the item must be authentic. They just say that they'll verify that the item is what it says it is, and label it as such. If their label says "counterfeit", that's good enough for me. It's buyer beware at that point.
Thanks for another valuable video, Bry. Take good care.
This is an interesting list for sure
Very interesting video and topics, very helpful. The acknowledged grading and retailing of "counterfeit" books especially by established players like MyComicShop and CGC is fascinating. If the books are clearly and conspicuously disclosed as "COUNTERFEIT" then two things: (i) putting aside the retailer or grader, doesn't the original owner have a copyright or trademark claim against the counterfeit(er)?--that's how counterfeits are usually dealt with in the real world; (ii) why is there that much interest in knock-offs to create a viable counterfeit market in the first place? Who is buying those and why?
Very good questions…
First. Wow Cerebus 1 is amazing and to think that minute red outline is the difference between the real and fake. I have always been fearful of the comic industry and AI making books that look identical. The naked eye and new users would hardly notice. What a shame.
I understand that collectors like print runs but the reason for comics should be for reading first and foremost IMO. If no one is reading comics anymore and just collecting what is the point?
Good stuff to know!
I see nothing wrong with grading counterfeit comics as long as they are clearly marked as such. As mentioned in your video, some of the counterfeits have a back story, which is part of the comics industry. I have seen counterfeit ancient Roman coins, which are rarer than their real counterparts and more vaulable.
how about talk about key issues that are going down in price but would be long term good buys.
👍💯
I don't mind CGC grading counterfeit books. At least they can't be sold as legit when they're labeled counterfeit
This hobby is crazy
First of all is this a new change in CGC’s grading standards. Second if so, did this change happen within the last few years post Blackstone’s purchase of CGC?
I know the reason why counterfeit money is confiscated by police is to take it out of circulation.
CGC grading fake comics does two things; 1. makes sure they earn their money for the service, 2. makes the issue harder to be sold as real. I don't think they could just confiscate it or destroy it.
CGC needs to gets it's act together and identity these books more easily as counterfeit....
I agree if it is counterfeit CGC should authenticate.
CGC has green and purple labels. It's absolutely ridiculous they don't have red labels for counterfeit. That is irresponsible to the point of being disreputable. Yes, if you're buying a $10k comic, do your research, but it's also understandable that a person sees the blue label and thinks "sure thing."
I don't care about Gen 13, but I'd love to have a gold counterfeit 😂
Wow! Very strange that CGC grades counterfeits
CGC should kick those back. Ridiculous.
What if the counterfeit becomes worth more then the original