Yeah, this fight looks like a healers worst nightmare with all that damage going around. Tanks would have to sweat this fight to mitigate all that damage along with the mechanics. DPS's literally throwing the whole arsenal just to make sure you can get next phases. This is brutally fun.
@@verdejama meanwhile healers who did E12S phase 2 know hell aswel. with the last mechanic being an literal heavy raid AOE into small raid AOE into heavy and it keeps repeating till enrage. If your healers are experienced this won't cause them much issue, the most sketchy moment is heartless arch angel since it gives incurable and drops to 1hp while also damage will go out shortly after.
Good god. I've been a gamer for life, over 25yrs now. I've bled multiple thousands of hours into MMOs and some of them even into progression raiding. Listening to this...well, I'm starting to think I MIGHT get too old for this shit Christ on a bike...
it honestly is not as complicated as it sounds. when you are watching a guide it sounds like a lot of mechanics to digest, but with enough practice the mechanics become second nature and you won't have to think so much about it
My question is what kind of crazy ass reddit think-tanks does it take to figure out this stuff in the first place?!? like, I get it, some of these things are stuff the game has done before in intense patterns, but like... it's like herding cats to get people to do this coordinated of a dance.
It's WAY less difficult than it sounds. The main difficulty comes from the fact that it's a 8 man boss, which means if 1 or more or your current players is messing up they could be wiping everyone, and possibly preventing you from even learning the fight altogether. If you were to go into this fight with 7 people who knew what they were doing and they helped you, it'd honestly be way more straightforward and simple than the video seems.
yoshi: "healers are ment to heal not to deal dmg" Me: "Nice I´m Scholar, my half skillset is dmg, i got one solo Shield with an option to spread all 2mins, 1 aoe weaker shield, which i can change into a aoe heal, and a aoe insta heal all 30s for 1 aether..." yoshi: "HEALER ARE MEANT TO HEAL!! " Kappa
holy shit. The last time I played this game was when Ninjas came out. The game looks amazing still (and even more so). I used to watch your videos back then. Your vids helped me through Turn 6 years ago omg.
We are at the 3rd Forsaken atm, the fight is really fun, but brutal on the healers! We are slowly but surely getting there. We are only a casual raid team.
Jeez, I don't know if I'd be able for this. Hell I was trembling during my first run of Tam-Tara from fear of messing up. I think I'll stick to gathering/crafting and the occasional four person dungeon when I get back into the game.
The problem with learning this is that it requires actual practice through repeated raid wiping; however, no player on the planet this day in age has the tolerance nor stamina to deal with anyone new that desires to learn mechanics because the attention span of your average player is pretty low now.
Hell fuckin yes! Most people quit the 1st wipe in my experience. My mindset and approach is we fail til we get better as a unit and beat this. Communicate and stick with it til completion soldier! Hard to find people who wont bail at the 1st sign of adversity.
so like watching this over and over again, I noticed the "Off tank runs from boss for the Wings of destruction(both wings)" when I see mizz the OT at the point staying on boss when the MT is running, so for DPS strat, let the PLD stay and wars run?
Was thinking of getting, but preset groups we have to interact with daily, never seemed to work out well. Still enjoy the videos all the same, though we may likely never play. Hey, may be nice ta say.
i guess you get this question a lot missteq, but how do you split the bars of the UI like that? i mean, in the HUD layout menu you can only do 6x2 and all that, will you do a HUD video someday for us who're starting to modify it? thanks in advance, your videos are awesome and pretty well explained!
Yuhg They are most likley 2 seperate bars, with the empty spaces set transparent. You can hide unassigned slots in character configuration, under hotbar settings on the left. Should be one of the first check boxes.
Me - May 23: OMG Patch 4.3 is here. I can't wait to do The Ridorana Lighthouse raid!! Me on May 24 realizing MTQcapture doesn't have her guide up and I have to settle for sub-par guides: Why me... Looking forward to your guide on the alliance raid! Yours are by far the best.
it's a bit old, but do people really watch alliance raid guides? why? you got more than enough room for error, it's not like you fucking up wipes the group in most cases, i get watching guides for these since 1 miss step can wipe your group, but alliance raids? fuck no will i ever watch a guide on that. the pain and suffering from wiping is the best experience.
This seems alot more simple than neoexdeath, like only O3S levels of mechanics. Probably the dps check that's killer, meaning my static will never kill it
They're pretty much the same fight tbh. Easier for tanks, harder for healers. But the structure of the fight is so damn similar to Neo. I'll agree the dps check on this is tighter tho, even week 1 Neo was really forgiving for raid dps.
@Dethyl ugh i was doing this today and got kicked out reason the leader said I was too low gear even though i was in lv 80 gear and blamed me for the wipes he even laugh that i looked i was in stormblood gear
Well, I found Guardian to be easier than Kefka and even Halicarnasse from Deltascape Savage. Guardian is about less mechanic heavy than those two and rely on doing the most DPS on adds + the Boss with some mechanics. The copy/paste is pretty easy when you remember. The only real difficult part is the virus program and be careful about those missiles. (No, seriously. They seems slow but they can screw you up if you don't pay attention) There was a lot more of mechanics in Halicarnasse with the vines, the books, etc... And for Kefka. Well, some mechanics can screw you up really hard if you mess up (Forsaken phases, the statues, even Trine,....) But that's just my opinion and how I feel about Guardian.
(I know this was 3 months ago but whatever xD) I have ADHD and what worked for me was going back through little by little until I understood it. The same thing goes for part 1! I hope this helps if you haven't cleared it yet :)
Mtq I am hosting a very large full scale event on Saturday and I would really appreciate if you made a personal appearance as a guest during the event let me know if you can make it its a PvP tournament
Forsaken #2 is a mechanic that's finally harder to do for DPS than Healers & Tanks. So tired of DPS getting pampered in Creator and Deltascape. Glad they have to pull their heads out of their asses for once :^)
zerox102 I main healer and comments like this piss me. Sure they get less mechanics but they're the reason the boss is dying, or anything in a raid because they DAMAGE. Just like we heal and tanks pull. It's they're job and they're doing it. Might not seem it sometimes but you try doing anything without them and stop being so elitist.
+Zerox102 It's still easier for DPS than it is for tanks and healers. As a DPS, you'll always do the same thing whereas tanks/healers have to keep an eye out for future/past and position accordingly. Even then, it's a flashy mechanic but it's actually really simple. Trine will be the wall for your average group.
What a stupid comment. Everyone is the reason the boss is dying; DPS get babied in this game because their "role" is something *everyone tries to optimize in the endgame anyway*, they have no other responsibilities, and for some other reason SE sees it fit to not even give them mechanics in most savage encounters.
sooo you're subscribed to a channel providing guides for existing content that show you what you're going to face and how to deal with it and spoilers bother you? If you were not already aware of his 2nd form, you wouldn't be able to tell what is in the thumbnail.
Just being devil's advocate here but he could have known what God of Magic Kefka looks like from Final Fantasy VI and somehow not guessed O8S would involve him ;P
WOMANpukumaru yeah but it s ok no problem^^ i think we see it tonight for the first time with m'y static i will prefer no see kefka god but it s the life ^^
Laura Avellaneda I think most people didn't want the transition spoiled. That's a better expectation than seeing him. I saw him in ff6 when I was 8. But I wanted to see how ff14 made the transition. And boy was the wait worth it!!!
she`s like "move there, do this, do that" and i`m like " :) :) :) :) :) wtf :) :) :) :)"
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*retires from healing after this *
Yeah, this fight looks like a healers worst nightmare with all that damage going around. Tanks would have to sweat this fight to mitigate all that damage along with the mechanics. DPS's literally throwing the whole arsenal just to make sure you can get next phases. This is brutally fun.
@@verdejama meanwhile healers who did E12S phase 2 know hell aswel.
with the last mechanic being an literal heavy raid AOE into small raid AOE into heavy and it keeps repeating till enrage.
If your healers are experienced this won't cause them much issue, the most sketchy moment is heartless arch angel since it gives incurable and drops to 1hp while also damage will go out shortly after.
@@verdejama i just did this last night and found the healing pretty fun actually
Good god.
I've been a gamer for life, over 25yrs now.
I've bled multiple thousands of hours into MMOs and some of them even into progression raiding.
Listening to this...well, I'm starting to think I MIGHT get too old for this shit
Christ on a bike...
it honestly is not as complicated as it sounds. when you are watching a guide it sounds like a lot of mechanics to digest, but with enough practice the mechanics become second nature and you won't have to think so much about it
One of my best buddies quit raiding because he didn't want to memorize all this stuff, lol.
My question is what kind of crazy ass reddit think-tanks does it take to figure out this stuff in the first place?!? like, I get it, some of these things are stuff the game has done before in intense patterns, but like... it's like herding cats to get people to do this coordinated of a dance.
It's WAY less difficult than it sounds.
The main difficulty comes from the fact that it's a 8 man boss, which means if 1 or more or your current players is messing up they could be wiping everyone, and possibly preventing you from even learning the fight altogether. If you were to go into this fight with 7 people who knew what they were doing and they helped you, it'd honestly be way more straightforward and simple than the video seems.
Have to agree, dungeon running or raiding has become more a game of memorization then anything.
Thanks MTQ! I must have seen this guide 10 times but i finally killed it through a couple of weeks of pugging
Wow, good to know Kefka still opens with Fallen One into Ultima.
haha why did i choose healer as my main class :')
Yeah SE’s been rough on us in Omega
Right? I mean I love it but maaan does it feel like they're testing us in these raids
actually, fights like this is exactly why you choose healer...i wish there would be more like this
Excuse you. I choose healer because I'm a masochist
yoshi: "healers are ment to heal not to deal dmg" Me: "Nice I´m Scholar, my half skillset is dmg, i got one solo Shield with an option to spread all 2mins, 1 aoe weaker shield, which i can change into a aoe heal, and a aoe insta heal all 30s for 1 aether..." yoshi: "HEALER ARE MEANT TO HEAL!! " Kappa
holy shit. The last time I played this game was when Ninjas came out. The game looks amazing still (and even more so). I used to watch your videos back then. Your vids helped me through Turn 6 years ago omg.
sorry i missed that can you say it again
"3rd Forsaken prog"
*group can't get past 2nd Graven*
Welcome to PF!
Oh dear, I feel your frustration. It's been a nightmare thus far for myself, also.
Jesus....so pretty much the strat is "Run! Run! Or you'll be well done!"
I can see you are actually listening to people. Ty for slowing down a bit on explaining what to do.
[:
Slowing down? She's putting out mechanics one after another without pause, none of it makes any sense when watching this shit for the first time.
Wow if only there was a way to rewind the video and keep rewatching!
GAH! WHY ISNT THERE A PAUSE BUTTON! Damn her for giving us all this info in a video that isn't 1 hour!
Wh... what?
3mins into the video and I already forgot what to do 😂😂😂
We are at the 3rd Forsaken atm, the fight is really fun, but brutal on the healers! We are slowly but surely getting there. We are only a casual raid team.
Jeez, I don't know if I'd be able for this. Hell I was trembling during my first run of Tam-Tara from fear of messing up. I think I'll stick to gathering/crafting and the occasional four person dungeon when I get back into the game.
The problem with learning this is that it requires actual practice through repeated raid wiping; however, no player on the planet this day in age has the tolerance nor stamina to deal with anyone new that desires to learn mechanics because the attention span of your average player is pretty low now.
Yeah my static leader has that issue even with new fights he gets mad when we wipe even when he knows that the static is learning the fight
Hell fuckin yes! Most people quit the 1st wipe in my experience. My mindset and approach is we fail til we get better as a unit and beat this. Communicate and stick with it til completion soldier! Hard to find people who wont bail at the 1st sign of adversity.
I’m only looking at this so I can do it when we’re like lvl 80 or 90 and we can burn the bosses like we do in Coil atm.
Square. Please calm down.
how can any human being remember all this information ...
All practice and muscular memory
Whew, that looks intense. I just beat Stormblood so I'm now tome farming for ilvl330 gear. I'll get to that fight eventually.
shenmuemasta you'll want 370 by then... these fights are insane
I dont know why im looking this. I never get people to play with :C
I know this is 2 years late.. But, have you tried it yet?
@@sairentoeko nope.
@@JunkWarrior797 Do you still want too?
@@sairentoeko I havent play in 1 year So I need to pay sub again I dont feel like it, I want to wait a little more but thank you
@@JunkWarrior797 still havent done it? 1 year later?
Thanks so much Mizz your guides have helped me in many fights!
so like watching this over and over again, I noticed the "Off tank runs from boss for the Wings of destruction(both wings)" when I see mizz the OT at the point staying on boss when the MT is running, so for DPS strat, let the PLD stay and wars run?
Yesterday i got to see enrage for part one, so guess i should prepare to progress in part two :P
I thought Shinryu ex was tough to learn... Basically have someone with encyclopedic knowledge of this fight call it out over discord or something...
Wow. How long did your group need to get the kill? He looks insane. Like he deserves. Best villain ever
Was thinking of getting, but preset groups we have to interact with daily, never seemed to work out well. Still enjoy the videos all the same, though we may likely never play. Hey, may be nice ta say.
trying to do this now at lv 80 with bozja gear and we cant even get the skulls right :/
Same
Me: has just recently started healing like a few days ago
Me now: I regrwt... Choosing this route
Thanks, helped alot!!
Jeepers, The Second Forsaken looks like it's gonna suck...
i guess you get this question a lot missteq, but how do you split the bars of the UI like that? i mean, in the HUD layout menu you can only do 6x2 and all that, will you do a HUD video someday for us who're starting to modify it? thanks in advance, your videos are awesome and pretty well explained!
Do you mean the controller hot bar? If so, you use a controller - it looks like 4 x + shapes
no no, i mean as in 2:15 for example
Yuhg They are most likley 2 seperate bars, with the empty spaces set transparent. You can hide unassigned slots in character configuration, under hotbar settings on the left. Should be one of the first check boxes.
Me - May 23: OMG Patch 4.3 is here. I can't wait to do The Ridorana Lighthouse raid!!
Me on May 24 realizing MTQcapture doesn't have her guide up and I have to settle for sub-par guides: Why me...
Looking forward to your guide on the alliance raid! Yours are by far the best.
it's a bit old, but do people really watch alliance raid guides? why?
you got more than enough room for error, it's not like you fucking up wipes the group in most cases, i get watching guides for these since 1 miss step can wipe your group, but alliance raids? fuck no will i ever watch a guide on that.
the pain and suffering from wiping is the best experience.
Hey are u guys planning on making guide video for bahamut ultimate?
laderian7884 best to just get that video guide from hardcore raiders. I don't even think the static that she uses pov for has even cleared Ultimate
they haven't cleared it
This seems alot more simple than neoexdeath, like only O3S levels of mechanics. Probably the dps check that's killer, meaning my static will never kill it
They're pretty much the same fight tbh. Easier for tanks, harder for healers. But the structure of the fight is so damn similar to Neo. I'll agree the dps check on this is tighter tho, even week 1 Neo was really forgiving for raid dps.
Thank you : D
Honestly im looking for people with the patience just to beat it once, I want to get my ultima weapon for Drk but i gotta beat this clown first
now comes the hard part, actually finding a group T-T
87 seconds into this video and Ive said all the cuss words in the english language.
Geez so not very black mage friendly huh? Doesn't seem like you get lots of time to stand still.
つ ◕_◕ ༽つ All hail our lord and savior Spross つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
This makes E8S feels like a joke
How can any one beat this battle, its madness
It's a lot easier when you only focus on what you personally have to do and forget all the other mechanics!
@Dethyl ugh i was doing this today and got kicked out reason the leader said I was too low gear even though i was in lv 80 gear and blamed me for the wipes he even laugh that i looked i was in stormblood gear
My group will be here in 3 months lol oh well
This seems easier than Guardian
Well, I found Guardian to be easier than Kefka and even Halicarnasse from Deltascape Savage.
Guardian is about less mechanic heavy than those two and rely on doing the most DPS on adds + the Boss with some mechanics.
The copy/paste is pretty easy when you remember. The only real difficult part is the virus program and be careful about those missiles. (No, seriously. They seems slow but they can screw you up if you don't pay attention)
There was a lot more of mechanics in Halicarnasse with the vines, the books, etc...
And for Kefka. Well, some mechanics can screw you up really hard if you mess up (Forsaken phases, the statues, even Trine,....)
But that's just my opinion and how I feel about Guardian.
How can people with ADHD do this!? Ok meds, but if you don't have 'em?
(I know this was 3 months ago but whatever xD) I have ADHD and what worked for me was going back through little by little until I understood it. The same thing goes for part 1! I hope this helps if you haven't cleared it yet :)
Kefka 😘
:: cries in WHM ::
Woot
doesnt seeem fun like the other savages iv done and find bae ultimate easier >.> plus erueka gear gonna replace this fast next patch lol
Mtq I am hosting a very large full scale event on Saturday and I would really appreciate if you made a personal appearance as a guest during the event let me know if you can make it its a PvP tournament
i wish it was called fallen one instead of heartless angel.
I love you
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This fight is terrible and these mechanics make no sense at all. 5 hours trying to kill this asshole and no luck. This shit is anti-fun.
Forsaken #2 is a mechanic that's finally harder to do for DPS than Healers & Tanks. So tired of DPS getting pampered in Creator and Deltascape. Glad they have to pull their heads out of their asses for once :^)
zerox102 I main healer and comments like this piss me. Sure they get less mechanics but they're the reason the boss is dying, or anything in a raid because they DAMAGE. Just like we heal and tanks pull. It's they're job and they're doing it. Might not seem it sometimes but you try doing anything without them and stop being so elitist.
+Zerox102 It's still easier for DPS than it is for tanks and healers. As a DPS, you'll always do the same thing whereas tanks/healers have to keep an eye out for future/past and position accordingly. Even then, it's a flashy mechanic but it's actually really simple. Trine will be the wall for your average group.
Healers dps and heal/mitigate. Tanks dps and mitigate/aggro. Dps dps and mitigatish?
Yeah, everybody should bring everything that their job/role allows. None of this pure healer/pure tank rubbish.
What a stupid comment. Everyone is the reason the boss is dying; DPS get babied in this game because their "role" is something *everyone tries to optimize in the endgame anyway*, they have no other responsibilities, and for some other reason SE sees it fit to not even give them mechanics in most savage encounters.
Might wanna change the thumbnail to be less spoilery. Just had his god form show up on my new video list
sooo you're subscribed to a channel providing guides for existing content that show you what you're going to face and how to deal with it and spoilers bother you? If you were not already aware of his 2nd form, you wouldn't be able to tell what is in the thumbnail.
Just being devil's advocate here but he could have known what God of Magic Kefka looks like from Final Fantasy VI and somehow not guessed O8S would involve him ;P
Also given how the Exdeath encounter involved Neo Exdeath, many of us kind of figured that the Kefka encounter would involve God Kefka in savage mode.
its been 3 weeks.. come on.
Spoilers for a character from a game released in 1994? lmao are you slow
Why you don t put miniature for no spoil...it s not cool... because i think many people want don t see kefka god... but thx for your work
WOMANpukumaru it s not the problem... we can see this video in recomandation of UA-cam... if we see video on ff 14.... 😉
WOMANpukumaru yeah but it s ok no problem^^ i think we see it tonight for the first time with m'y static i will prefer no see kefka god but it s the life ^^
What did u expect? god kefka is not a surprise at all. And this is a raid guide, what's the problem? it's showing the boss himself.
Laura Avellaneda I think most people didn't want the transition spoiled. That's a better expectation than seeing him. I saw him in ff6 when I was 8. But I wanted to see how ff14 made the transition. And boy was the wait worth it!!!