Thank you so much David and Alex for sharing about this topic. Your advice of not using I feel, but instead use I think, choose or believe help me to think instead of feeling that takes me down the rabbit hole lost in confusion. I’m so grateful for both of you for sharing what works and not work in life. ❤️❤️🙏
Hi @cecilialao8958, Thank you for your thoughtful message! It's fantastic to hear that the shift from "I feel" to "I think, choose, or believe" is helping you navigate your thoughts more clearly and avoid confusion. We're grateful for your engagement and are here to support you in exploring what works best in your journey. Keep choosing your path wisely! Kind Regards, David
Hi, thank you so much for your kind words! I’m truly glad the videos have been helpful for you. It’s wonderful to hear that they’re supporting you on your journey. If you’d like to connect with others who are also exploring these teachings, please feel free to join our free Wu Wei Wisdom community here: facebook.com/groups/wuweiwisdomcommunity/. P.S. Exciting News! I've launched David's Journal, my free newsletter where I'll share deeper insights into Wu Wei Wisdom, Taoism, and my personal journey. For exclusive access to upcoming projects and the chance to shape new content, a paid subscription is also available. Subscribe for free or join the inner circle: davidjameslees.com Looking forward to sharing this journey with you! Kind Regards, David
This resonated so much! I’ve been working from home since August and because I enjoy my own company I thought I’d be in my element, but the opposite happened. Exactly as Alex said, in the absence of the office buzz, I’ve felt isolated, disconnected and slightly depressed. This has helped refocus my mindset, and hearing that someone else has been through the same thing has given me hope and comfort. I’m going to treat myself to a few sessions with David in the New Year as a Christmas present to myself! :-)
Hi Lara, thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment on our video we really appreciate it! It took me maybe 10 months to fully adjust from corporate life to working for myself and from home so that I could construct a daily routine that was positive and productive. Give yourself time and enjoy the process of personal exploration as you find out what works for you! Thank you also for becoming a member of out Wu Wei Wisdom Community Facebook Group - we look forward to supporting you in the future. Alex x
Thank you so much for this video! I found it to be extremely helpful! I have been feeling lonely a lot lately and this has helped me understand what is going on inside me and how to help myself.
Hi Mary, thanks for your feedback. We're glad the teaching has helped you. If you use Facebook you would be welcome to join our free Wu Wei Wisdom Community Facebook group where there is a lot of postive teaching and sharing happening: facebook.com/groups/wuweiwisdomcommunity/ Alex & David x
That's so interesting Alex cus that's what most of us did in the beginning of lock down....joined all the on line groups going, but then gradually became comfortable in ourselves and then not need so much in our lives. Thank you ❤❤❤
I think though that you're leaving out something. We don't necessarily create our own feelings. Our feelings can come in response to our circumstances, from being hurt. As an example, an elderly person who can no longer participate in society, and has been isolated by no fault of their own. They may know inside they are loveable, they are good enough, and of course they are coping the best they can. But they still feel the loneliness of the loss of all their family and friends that are now passed on. And so they have to live in that isolation the remainder of their lives. And millions of people live in that situation of loneliness. Maybe the culture is very different where you are, but here in the U.S. people are very cliquish, very self absorbed. We've become a very narcissistic society, and even very much so in the churches.
Ah! This is where we have a different opinion: I DO believe that we create our emotions and feelings! If you have a look at our UA-cam video "you are the creator of your emotions, not the victim of them" you will understand the basis of our teaching on this subject - ua-cam.com/video/WjJgsS36CxA/v-deo.html ...Again, thank you very much for your interest in our work, and I'm pleased that it has inspired this interesting debate. David
I've been watching these videos with much enthusiasm until this one made me skeptical. The idea of complete emotional freedom and invulnerability, aka control, is also a lie. I woke up today feeling groggy and grumpy; it was not because of thoughts in my head, although I sure was tempted to think nastily. A principle of CBT is that feelings cause thoughts, just as thoughts cause feelings. Part of being in flow is allowing the passing tides without attachment or forcing a preferred state of being. This entire process is valid in rectifying troubling thought patterns. However, it's also entirely "Yang" driven, with a near total irreverence toward Yin and the experience of feeling, the mystery of our human experience and the interconnectedness of all life. Married couples begin to share neurons. Two become one flesh. Naming feelings is an important part of developing emotional intelligence and deciphering what one's immediate needs are in his or her environment. As his wife went on to explain a feeling called "emptiness" in the work place, something we've surely all felt, the teacher went on to immediately shut down any indulgence of it, assuming it's basis in thought. Well, yes, such differentials have their basis in perception and discernment, but it's like he's missing the point. It's an interconnected system. Feelings work in tandem with thought because we are WHOLE. HAPPINESS is crucially different than FULFILLMENT and categorizing these simply as "green light" is irresponsible and a function of controlling yang. In fact, it's borderline infantile. Babies cannot discern beyond good and bad. Toddlers get a little better. This whole philosophy is beginning to look more and more like escapism. There are no feelings objectively called "loneliness", but there is no man objectively called "bob", either. What's in a name? Purpose. Both happiness and fulfillment serve very different purposes for a human being and it's important to recognize the difference. What brings one pleasure and reward is not always the same as what brings one spiritual fulfillment. In fact, some "green light" feelings lead straight to demise - like downward social comparison, created by an inferiority complex, manifests greater well being... so long as the said individual perceives themselves as greater. And what of the pleasure trap which ensares people into addiction? Is this channel good vibes only? Has not suffering any redeeming virtue? Not even for the building of compassion and character? Must everything "red" be totally demonized? As if we know best. We follow our own convenience and pleasure as a lifestyle. Look where it's gotten our planet. Yin? They advocate for this system as though it's infallible and it's not. I write this because I feel compassion for others who may be mislead into believing in their complete independence, which is also a form of spiritual bypassing. In so doing, we forsake the importance of relationships and our interconnectedness. No man is an island. It's their career, I'm not out to fer anyone... I find much of their content very helpful. Just take it with a grain of salt. Best.
I am struggling with being on myown I have separation anxiety I am in floods of tears when I'm on myown can anyone explain why I'm feeling these things I feel people don't want to be with me
Interesting video although I think perhaps I've not understood your points correctly. As social creatures, is it not part of the human condition that we need other people to a degree and therefore we experience a somewhat inbuilt natural feeling of loneliness when we don't feel connected? or is this feeling 100% belief generated? There is an epidemic with loneliness amongst the elderly. Do they all have the same beliefs about not being good enough/being unlovable?
Thank you for watching our videos and taking time to comment.
I agree we are social creatures as I explained on the video. Therefore creating a 'red-light' feeling or emotion that you label "loneliness" or not being ''connected" is NOT inbuilt or natural. It is a feeling being created by a thought or a belief. I didn't focus on the elderly, - we could do a video just on that subject. Because, I agree, unfortunately, many elderly people experience red-light feelings that they label "lonely." I did not say all had the same beliefs. I explained that if you dig into the root of their thinking or the belief that creates the red-light feelings that you will find one or all of the ''3 lies'' at the core.
Hope that explanation helps your understanding of this very important subject. David
Girl Up North we’re gregarious mammals. When we spend time in isolation there is a subconscious feeling that we have been abandoned by the tribe. In the past if the tribe abandoned us we would die, and that emotion is deeply rooted in our DNA. God knows what these yokels are talking about...
I've had only abusive relationships my hole life am a very loving kind compassionate person and this is an issue for me how to make good Ones now in later life
I've only listened to half this video, but it seems he's telling us to deny our feelings. Just try telling that to a new born baby that it just needs to get comfortable with itself is a bit idiotic. If you look at the research on the psychological damage that occurs to babies and children where physical touch and emotional support were withheld, his logic seems very flawed People have a natural need for physical love, kindness, touch, etc. And trying to rationalize it away just seems a bit rediculous. It almost seems like he uses his rationalization as an excuse for holding back or withholding love to others. Which is the opposite of Christian beliefs which he now dismisses. I think God knows better. And it seems he's trying to play god in a sense.
Thank you for your comments. I'm sorry that you have misunderstood the contents and points of the video: I am NOT telling you to deny your feelings, in fact, I am saying the opposite! The key message is: please interpret your emotions and feelings correctly. I did not mention a new-born baby being connected with loneliness, nor did I mention physical touch with babies or children being connected to loneliness. I also did not mention God or religion in this video. Perhaps the points you make are connected to a different video you have been watching? Nevertheless, I thank you very much for taking the time to watch and comment. I would be very happy to discuss any of the points that I actually presented during this video teaching on ‘loneliness’ with you. David
Thank you so much David and Alex for sharing about this topic. Your advice of not using I feel, but instead use I think, choose or believe help me to think instead of feeling that takes me down the rabbit hole lost in confusion. I’m so grateful for both of you for sharing what works and not work in life. ❤️❤️🙏
Hi @cecilialao8958,
Thank you for your thoughtful message! It's fantastic to hear that the shift from "I feel" to "I think, choose, or believe" is helping you navigate your thoughts more clearly and avoid confusion. We're grateful for your engagement and are here to support you in exploring what works best in your journey. Keep choosing your path wisely!
Kind Regards,
David
@@WuWeiWisdom Thank you so much for your response and again very thankful for both your sincere and kind hearts.
Your videos are very helpful, thank you!
Hi, thank you so much for your kind words! I’m truly glad the videos have been helpful for you. It’s wonderful to hear that they’re supporting you on your journey.
If you’d like to connect with others who are also exploring these teachings, please feel free to join our free Wu Wei Wisdom community here: facebook.com/groups/wuweiwisdomcommunity/.
P.S. Exciting News!
I've launched David's Journal, my free newsletter where I'll share deeper insights into Wu Wei Wisdom, Taoism, and my personal journey. For exclusive access to upcoming projects and the chance to shape new content, a paid subscription is also available.
Subscribe for free or join the inner circle: davidjameslees.com
Looking forward to sharing this journey with you!
Kind Regards,
David
This resonated so much! I’ve been working from home since August and because I enjoy my own company I thought I’d be in my element, but the opposite happened. Exactly as Alex said, in the absence of the office buzz, I’ve felt isolated, disconnected and slightly depressed. This has helped refocus my mindset, and hearing that someone else has been through the same thing has given me hope and comfort. I’m going to treat myself to a few sessions with David in the New Year as a Christmas present to myself! :-)
Hi Lara, thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment on our video we really appreciate it!
It took me maybe 10 months to fully adjust from corporate life to working for myself and from home so that I could construct a daily routine that was positive and productive. Give yourself time and enjoy the process of personal exploration as you find out what works for you!
Thank you also for becoming a member of out Wu Wei Wisdom Community Facebook Group - we look forward to supporting you in the future.
Alex x
This is working for me. I want more social interaction. Love this. Clear intention - friends. Thank you.
Thanks Gema - if you have any questions, please just ask us! x
Thank you so much for this video! I found it to be extremely helpful! I have been feeling lonely a lot lately and this has helped me understand what is going on inside me and how to help myself.
Hi Mary, thanks for your feedback. We're glad the teaching has helped you. If you use Facebook you would be welcome to join our free Wu Wei Wisdom Community Facebook group where there is a lot of postive teaching and sharing happening: facebook.com/groups/wuweiwisdomcommunity/ Alex & David x
That's so interesting Alex cus that's what most of us did in the beginning of lock down....joined all the on line groups going, but then gradually became comfortable in ourselves and then not need so much in our lives. Thank you ❤❤❤
I think though that you're leaving out something. We don't necessarily create our own feelings. Our feelings can come in response to our circumstances, from being hurt. As an example, an elderly person who can no longer participate in society, and has been isolated by no fault of their own. They may know inside they are loveable, they are good enough, and of course they are coping the best they can. But they still feel the loneliness of the loss of all their family and friends that are now passed on. And so they have to live in that isolation the remainder of their lives. And millions of people live in that situation of loneliness. Maybe the culture is very different where you are, but here in the U.S. people are very cliquish, very self absorbed. We've become a very narcissistic society, and even very much so in the churches.
Ah! This is where we have a different opinion: I DO believe that we create our emotions and feelings! If you have a look at our UA-cam video "you are the creator of your emotions, not the victim of them" you will understand the basis of our teaching on this subject - ua-cam.com/video/WjJgsS36CxA/v-deo.html ...Again, thank you very much for your interest in our work, and I'm pleased that it has inspired this interesting debate. David
Finally a good explanation of the golden thread...thank you.
Thanks Farhad - we appreciate your support!
I've been watching these videos with much enthusiasm until this one made me skeptical. The idea of complete emotional freedom and invulnerability, aka control,
is also a lie. I woke up today feeling groggy and grumpy; it was not because of thoughts in my head, although I sure was tempted to think nastily. A principle of CBT is that feelings cause thoughts, just as thoughts cause feelings.
Part of being in flow is allowing the passing tides without attachment or forcing a preferred state of being.
This entire process is valid in rectifying troubling thought patterns. However, it's also entirely "Yang" driven, with a near total irreverence toward Yin and the experience of feeling, the mystery of our human experience and the interconnectedness of all life. Married couples begin to share neurons. Two become one flesh.
Naming feelings is an important part of developing emotional intelligence and deciphering what one's immediate needs are in his or her environment. As his wife went on to explain a feeling called "emptiness" in the work place, something we've surely all felt, the teacher went on to immediately shut down any indulgence of it, assuming it's basis in thought. Well, yes, such differentials have their basis in perception and discernment, but it's like he's missing the point. It's an interconnected system. Feelings work in tandem with thought because we are WHOLE.
HAPPINESS is crucially different than FULFILLMENT and categorizing these simply as "green light" is irresponsible and a function of controlling yang. In fact, it's borderline infantile. Babies cannot discern beyond good and bad. Toddlers get a little better. This whole philosophy is beginning to look more and more like escapism.
There are no feelings objectively called "loneliness", but there is no man objectively called "bob", either. What's in a name? Purpose.
Both happiness and fulfillment serve very different purposes for a human being and it's important to recognize the difference. What brings one pleasure and reward is not always the same as what brings one spiritual fulfillment. In fact, some "green light" feelings lead straight to demise - like downward social comparison, created by an inferiority complex, manifests greater well being... so long as the said individual perceives themselves as greater. And what of the pleasure trap which ensares people into addiction?
Is this channel good vibes only?
Has not suffering any redeeming virtue? Not even for the building of compassion and character? Must everything "red" be totally demonized? As if we know best. We follow our own convenience and pleasure as a lifestyle. Look where it's gotten our planet. Yin?
They advocate for this system as though it's infallible and it's not. I write this because I feel compassion for others who may be mislead into believing in their complete independence, which is also a form of spiritual bypassing. In so doing, we forsake the importance of relationships and our interconnectedness.
No man is an island.
It's their career, I'm not out to fer anyone... I find much of their content very helpful. Just take it with a grain of salt.
Best.
How do I create love inside? How do I create my own green light feelings. Love u both so much, thank you
I am struggling with being on myown I have separation anxiety I am in floods of tears when I'm on myown can anyone explain why I'm feeling these things I feel people don't want to be with me
Interesting video although I think perhaps I've not understood your points correctly. As social creatures, is it not part of the human condition that we need other people to a degree and therefore we experience a somewhat inbuilt natural feeling of loneliness when we don't feel connected? or is this feeling 100% belief generated? There is an epidemic with loneliness amongst the elderly. Do they all have the same beliefs about not being good enough/being unlovable?
Hello,
Thank you for watching our videos and taking time to comment.
I agree we are social creatures as I explained on the video.
Therefore creating a 'red-light' feeling or emotion that you label "loneliness" or not being ''connected" is NOT inbuilt or natural. It is a feeling being created by a thought or a belief.
I didn't focus on the elderly, - we could do a video just on that subject.
Because, I agree, unfortunately, many elderly people experience red-light feelings that they label "lonely." I did not say all had the same beliefs. I explained that if you dig into the root of their thinking or the belief that creates the red-light feelings that you will find one or all of the ''3 lies'' at the core.
Hope that explanation helps your understanding of this very important subject.
David
@@WuWeiWisdom Yes, thank you, this does clarify matters.
@@girlupnorth555 Ok, great. Please do feel free to ask up a question any time you are unsure about anything :-)
Girl Up North we’re gregarious mammals. When we spend time in isolation there is a subconscious feeling that we have been abandoned by the tribe. In the past if the tribe abandoned us we would die, and that emotion is deeply rooted in our DNA. God knows what these yokels are talking about...
I've had only abusive relationships my hole life am a very loving kind compassionate person and this is an issue for me how to make good
Ones now in later life
I've only listened to half this video, but it seems he's telling us to deny our feelings. Just try telling that to a new born baby that it just needs to get comfortable with itself is a bit idiotic. If you look at the research on the psychological damage that occurs to babies and children where physical touch and emotional support were withheld, his logic seems very flawed People have a natural need for physical love, kindness, touch, etc. And trying to rationalize it away just seems a bit rediculous. It almost seems like he uses his rationalization as an excuse for holding back or withholding love to others. Which is the opposite of Christian beliefs which he now dismisses. I think God knows better. And it seems he's trying to play god in a sense.
Thank you for your comments. I'm sorry that you have misunderstood the contents and points of the video: I am NOT telling you to deny your feelings, in fact, I am saying the opposite! The key message is: please interpret your emotions and feelings correctly.
I did not mention a new-born baby being connected with loneliness, nor did I mention physical touch with babies or children being connected to loneliness. I also did not mention God or religion in this video. Perhaps the points you make are connected to a different video you have been watching?
Nevertheless, I thank you very much for taking the time to watch and comment. I would be very happy to discuss any of the points that I actually presented during this video teaching on ‘loneliness’ with you. David