Honestly believe the plate has to do with drill. German mountaineer boots had spikes on the sides, and German drill had the rifle resting against the edge of the pink toe where spikes would be, metal plate would protect the wood in that spot.
My Grandpa brought home several rifles from WWII. Back then, they had no idea the guns would be worth so much one day...and he was pretty broke and in need of a deer rifle. He was a gunsmith for Patton's 3rd army so he was pretty talented working with guns. He did a beautiful job sporterizing a G33/40 but it makes me want to cry when I see it since I know how much it would be worth if he had left it alone. It has sentimental value at least... Luckily he did leave most of the guns he brought back in their original condition. I may try to do my best to restore it when it eventually gets handed down to me, but I'll have to see if I can do it a worthy job. I know the front sight is gone, it's drilled and tapped and is in a sporter stock. If the barrel isn't cut down, it might be worth the effort.
The the most significant problems with the short Mausers were recoil and blast. Being a lighter rifle, the recoil forces, when used with the standard service round (7.92x57), became quite uncomfortable, particularly when episodes of prolonged shooting were required. Blast and flash from the standard cartridge also became quite noticeable, as one might expect, given that the cartridge was designed to achieve optimum performance in a longer barrel. As regards the desirability of equipping mountain troops with a more accurate, longer range rifle; everything in the military is a compromise. A more accurate firearm is always desirable but when engaged in mountaineering, 'long and heavy' always becomes problematic. Regarding the seemingly optimistic sighting graduations; these were typically intended to allow for 'whole unit' barrage shooting at massed enemy targets.
the 1940 G33/40s i`ve seen have solid wooden stocs, the later with laminated stiocs tend to split the stock and push back the recoill lug. propably cause to the recoil. propably why whermacht prefered the k98. i am from Norway, we had a lot of those guns here. thhe police where using them for many years after ww2.
Beautiful rifle man. I’ve been wanting one of these for quite some time. One walked into a show I was doing a few months ago, but the stock had been sanded to hell and he wanted close to retail.
My great grandfather has a sportarized G.33/40 but for some reason I will never know since he's passed before I was born, he has a Kar98K bolt instead of the G.33/40 bolt and I was wondering if it can still be fired despite having a different bolt
I realize this is an old video but do the barrel bands require screws? I'm restoring an old G.33/40 and I'm purchasing the bands but idk if they require screws or not
Might have wanted the shorter rifle due to the possible brush and vegetation that a longer rifle might not have been suited well for. Of course, I am comparing this to the mountains in Virginia.
Thanks for an informative video. When I first saw the g33 with the stock plate addition i thought it looked like it could have been issued to the falschirmjager but they used standard k98's. Looking forward to the range comparison.
German paratrooper didn't drop with their rifles. The rifles were always dropped separately in canisters. Individual paratroopers relied on a PO8 or P38 until they recovered their heavy weapons.
Great work as always! Have you ever reached out to Ian at Forgotten Weapons to make a Mauser variant special? Would be great to see you two share your knowledge.
Great informative video. I was handed down a G33/40 from my father,who served during WWII in France and Germany. He confiscated the carbine off a captured young German soldier. Love the story about the rifle and its history. I have enjoyed shooting the rifle, and plan to use it as a deer hunting rifle on a very limited basis. I like the 8MM caliber. It has the kick similar to a 308. Hoping I can find a usable leather sling for it, if anyone knows a supplier out there please post a comment with info, thanks.
Do you have any recommendations on removing dark stains on a Mauser 98 bolt? I have soaked it in Hoppes, worked on it extensively with copper brush/steel wool. I understand it will never look new and it has improved but I would like it to look a bit better. Thanks
It depends, what type of dark stain is it and how was it caused. Also what does the rest of the bolt look like? The whole bolt should look a dark blue color if it's still in the original finish. A dark spot could be some remaining bluing or some sort of oxidation spot on a worn bolt.
@@MilsurpWorld Its a Mauser 98 from manufactured at the Oberndorf factory with a 1918 date on it. The bolt looks to have a stainless finish except for the bolt handle, which is blue. It has a Turkish crescent mark on the receiver. The part of the bolt that is hidden with the bolt closed has less dark stain to it. I would assume the rifle was outdoors or wasn't stored in a good environment and the exterior had some staining due to that. Based on the condition of the stock it probably wasn't the best cared for rifle.
@@peten6691 depends on the stain and like already stated, it sounds like a Turkish Mauser (I have several). I cleaned mine using Naval Jelly. This will remove basically any oxidized finish and should be avoided if you're concerned about that. To refinish I reblued mine and they look great. Granted my concern was light rust which, if I were to do it again, just rubbing them good with oil after a good cleaning would have done the job.
The plate was made to protect the stock from the Crampons without a doubt. That is why the plate in on one side not both to protect the stock while for instance in formation at parade rest. Walking stick LOL Would you use the very thing that is going to save your life as a walking stick???? These were for the elite alpine troops. Pretty sure if the Germans needed a walking stick they would have made one. lol Love the video and the rifle. They are so nice to shoot!!!
Lots of good info, but you missed the part about use of them, Police use them first, and they were absolutely use for walking in the mountain's, they were the perfect length, try it out. Standard K's were to long, and heavy, if you ever carried one day after day you know what a pound difference makes. Have a collection of G /33/40 and your not shooting long range with open sights, having someone not know where your are is priceless ,
@@MilsurpWorld If only it was, although the one I'm looking at isn't terribly expensive at $150, that's a drop in the bucket if the action fits, but expensive if it doesn't lol. I don't think there would be much of an issue assuming the 33/40 is a long action, but I really don't know a great deal about it. Some people say all Mauser 98 actions are the same dimensionally-speaking with only varying features, but I'm not certain if that is true, so ordering all the components for this build is extremely tricky.
I can image the extra metal on the stock was good protection against hitting rocks/mountain side when climbing rappelling when slung over the back/shoulder. As well as the example you gave I think it’s intriguing that it’s only high metal on one side of the stock...
Why are the K-98k so expensive if between 1934-1945 there were 14,048,787 built? Their production price in the 1940s was $22.00, equivalent to $360 dollars today. Why are those staggering prices paid for this particular rifle? Either someone is lying or the shoppers buying them at very high prices are idiots...
Honestly believe the plate has to do with drill. German mountaineer boots had spikes on the sides, and German drill had the rifle resting against the edge of the pink toe where spikes would be, metal plate would protect the wood in that spot.
My Grandpa brought home several rifles from WWII. Back then, they had no idea the guns would be worth so much one day...and he was pretty broke and in need of a deer rifle.
He was a gunsmith for Patton's 3rd army so he was pretty talented working with guns. He did a beautiful job sporterizing a G33/40 but it makes me want to cry when I see it since I know how much it would be worth if he had left it alone.
It has sentimental value at least... Luckily he did leave most of the guns he brought back in their original condition.
I may try to do my best to restore it when it eventually gets handed down to me, but I'll have to see if I can do it a worthy job. I know the front sight is gone, it's drilled and tapped and is in a sporter stock. If the barrel isn't cut down, it might be worth the effort.
@Brown Green Awesome, wonder if they were in the same division. I forget but I think my dad said it was an engineers division.
@@yuibot5998 My Grandfather was in the 1308th Engineers temporarily attached to the 3rd for the duration of the Battle of the Bulge.
ps.. here in Norway even the locomotives where equipped with g33/40s. they used them to kill moos or other animals hit by the train.
Have you got an advice how to bring such a rifle from Norway back to gemany on the official way? Theese are pretty rare here...
@@DS-ig2egstart with having your license to buy that type of caliber rifle, then its straight forward.
The the most significant problems with the short Mausers were recoil and blast. Being a lighter rifle, the recoil forces, when used with the standard service round (7.92x57), became quite uncomfortable, particularly when episodes of prolonged shooting were required. Blast and flash from the standard cartridge also became quite noticeable, as one might expect, given that the cartridge was designed to achieve optimum performance in a longer barrel. As regards the desirability of equipping mountain troops with a more accurate, longer range rifle; everything in the military is a compromise. A more accurate firearm is always desirable but when engaged in mountaineering, 'long and heavy' always becomes problematic. Regarding the seemingly optimistic sighting graduations; these were typically intended to allow for 'whole unit' barrage shooting at massed enemy targets.
the 1940 G33/40s i`ve seen have solid wooden stocs, the later with laminated stiocs tend to split the stock and push back the recoill lug. propably cause to the recoil. propably why whermacht prefered the k98. i am from Norway, we had a lot of those guns here. thhe police where using them for many years after ww2.
I agree with you on the soldiers using them as walking sticks, as I found myself doing this quite a bit using when heavy hiking with mine.
This is a great channel! I don't think anyone else has a YT video on the 33/40!
Beautiful rifle man. I’ve been wanting one of these for quite some time. One walked into a show I was doing a few months ago, but the stock had been sanded to hell and he wanted close to retail.
My great grandfather has a sportarized G.33/40 but for some reason I will never know since he's passed before I was born, he has a Kar98K bolt instead of the G.33/40 bolt and I was wondering if it can still be fired despite having a different bolt
I realize this is an old video but do the barrel bands require screws? I'm restoring an old G.33/40 and I'm purchasing the bands but idk if they require screws or not
Might have wanted the shorter rifle due to the possible brush and vegetation that a longer rifle might not have been suited well for. Of course, I am comparing this to the mountains in Virginia.
The Alps are more like the Rockies than Appalacia.
Thanks for an informative video. When I first saw the g33 with the stock plate addition i thought it looked like it could have been issued to the falschirmjager but they used standard k98's. Looking forward to the range comparison.
German paratrooper didn't drop with their rifles. The rifles were always dropped separately in canisters. Individual paratroopers relied on a PO8 or P38 until they recovered their heavy weapons.
Nice snag, I'm envious. They truly have gotten quite expensive.
I just picked up a G33/40 from a local gun show. No import marks with a correct mismatched bolt.
your pronunciation of Gebirgsjäger is quite ok :-)
You didnt said it was originally intended for Czechoslovak gendarmerie.
Absolutely correct and many things they were made shorter and lighter for that you didn't mention in the video.
Great work as always! Have you ever reached out to Ian at Forgotten Weapons to make a Mauser variant special? Would be great to see you two share your knowledge.
Short rifle for SOLDIERs on Skis.
I assume the extra metal on the stock was so their crampons didn't damage the stock during drill.
Great informative video. I was handed down a G33/40 from my father,who served during WWII in France and Germany. He confiscated the carbine off a captured young German soldier. Love the story about the rifle and its history. I have enjoyed shooting the rifle, and plan to use it as a deer hunting rifle on a very limited basis. I like the 8MM caliber. It has the kick similar to a 308. Hoping I can find a usable leather sling for it, if anyone knows a supplier out there please post a comment with info, thanks.
You can get a repro mauser sling on ebay or an original yugoslavian sling
Superbe fusil et vidéo très intéressante comme toujours. Salut ami des armes🙋
Do you have any recommendations on removing dark stains on a Mauser 98 bolt? I have soaked it in Hoppes, worked on it extensively with copper brush/steel wool. I understand it will never look new and it has improved but I would like it to look a bit better. Thanks
It depends, what type of dark stain is it and how was it caused. Also what does the rest of the bolt look like? The whole bolt should look a dark blue color if it's still in the original finish. A dark spot could be some remaining bluing or some sort of oxidation spot on a worn bolt.
@@MilsurpWorld Its a Mauser 98 from manufactured at the Oberndorf factory with a 1918 date on it. The bolt looks to have a stainless finish except for the bolt handle, which is blue. It has a Turkish crescent mark on the receiver. The part of the bolt that is hidden with the bolt closed has less dark stain to it. I would assume the rifle was outdoors or wasn't stored in a good environment and the exterior had some staining due to that. Based on the condition of the stock it probably wasn't the best cared for rifle.
@@peten6691 Oh You have a Ottoman (Turkish) Mauser.
@@peten6691 depends on the stain and like already stated, it sounds like a Turkish Mauser (I have several). I cleaned mine using Naval Jelly. This will remove basically any oxidized finish and should be avoided if you're concerned about that. To refinish I reblued mine and they look great. Granted my concern was light rust which, if I were to do it again, just rubbing them good with oil after a good cleaning would have done the job.
Does it have the Czech proof marks? (Z with a circle around it)
Ah. It appeared it does. My vz.98/22 has them everywhere.
The plate was made to protect the stock from the Crampons without a doubt. That is why the plate in on one side not both to protect the stock while for instance in formation at parade rest. Walking stick LOL Would you use the very thing that is going to save your life as a walking stick???? These were for the elite alpine troops. Pretty sure if the Germans needed a walking stick they would have made one. lol Love the video and the rifle. They are so nice to shoot!!!
Very informative video.Thanks .
Congrats on getting this awesome rifle.
does the G33/40 have magazines or is it just like the kar98k a "top loader"?
no, top loader
Great video
Lots of good info, but you missed the part about use of them, Police use them first, and they were absolutely use for walking in the mountain's, they were the perfect length, try it out. Standard K's were to long, and heavy, if you ever carried one day after day you know what a pound difference makes. Have a collection of G /33/40 and your not shooting long range with open sights, having someone not know where your are is priceless ,
Question.. do you think a mauser 98 or model 70 action would fit in 33/40 stock?
I'm not sure, do you have a spare 33/40 stock and are just trying to put something in it?
No sir, but I have a modern Zastava M70 action, and know where one of these stocks is and its gorgeous, I would love to have them be compatible.
@@StrelokTheStalker Just an idea, but if the stock is cheap you should get it and look for a sporterized G33/40 and restore it.
@@MilsurpWorld If only it was, although the one I'm looking at isn't terribly expensive at $150, that's a drop in the bucket if the action fits, but expensive if it doesn't lol.
I don't think there would be much of an issue assuming the 33/40 is a long action, but I really don't know a great deal about it. Some people say all Mauser 98 actions are the same dimensionally-speaking with only varying features, but I'm not certain if that is true, so ordering all the components for this build is extremely tricky.
@@MilsurpWorld Actually isn't the KAR98 and the G33 physically similar to each other?
I personally have the Yugoslav 48 which is based on the g33/40 and it has waffenampts on it
Are you sure you mean the M48?
@MilsurpWorld Oops not that one forgot which one it is that’s just what I could find
@MilsurpWorld But I looked it up a long time ago, and it said it was based off from it
@MilsurpWorld this is what it looks like on screen.
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@MilsurpWorld and it has 44 on the side of the receiver
I can image the extra metal on the stock was good protection against hitting rocks/mountain side when climbing rappelling when slung over the back/shoulder. As well as the example you gave I think it’s intriguing that it’s only high metal on one side of the stock...
What is the book you have ??
God bless America!
Why are the K-98k so expensive if between 1934-1945 there were 14,048,787 built? Their production price in the 1940s was $22.00, equivalent to $360 dollars today. Why are those staggering prices paid for this particular rifle? Either someone is lying or the shoppers buying them at very high prices are idiots...
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Please bore us with the history.cant know too much.
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this is so cool real german with the eagle.!
Why is the az so light
A few reasons, I should probably do a more in depth video on the AZ in the future. I did a shooting video on it a while back but it deserves more.
North Florida Gun Guy: Always been curious since I found out about it playing playing Verdun a couple years ago, A video on it would be really cool
@@googlepissoff5776 Check out my shooting video of it for now. I'll add a video about the AZ to my "to-do" list.
The wz 29 polish Mauser is pretty light
@@3wolfsdown702 Because it's basically a K98AZ. Check out my video on that one.
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