The time to negotiate a discount due unsatisfactory condition is while the container is still on the truck being delivered before you accept the delivery. At that point, YOU have all the leverage because you can simply refuse the delivery and the company will have to eat that $1000 shipping cost (as well as another $1000 they would have to pay the shipping company for the return trip). They will obviously lie to you initially and say you can't do this, but hold firm and they will come down on the price to avoid having to ship it back and pay for all those shipping costs. As soon as you accept delivery and the container is off the truck, THE COMPANY has all the leverage because now you would have to pay the shipping cost back. Don't blame the company, blame yourself for accepting the delivery when you received an item that wasn't satisfactory to you.
Next time decline the load. I was a truck driver and I know what I'm talking about.... The Hot Shot that delivered it will still get paid.... he might get panicked if he hasn't dealt with a refusal before, but the best time to negotiate with the shipper is while the load is on the truck. DO NOT allow the driver to unload the product until a remedy has acured. If you have the ability, record your conversation and let the shipper know you are doing so. It goes along way.
Just denied one myself a week ago from used connex. Sometimes they try pawning garbage on people. Hole in the frame from rust and was beat to crap with gouges. They'll try to make you keep it and threaten to still charge shipping. Always pay with card. Got my full refund
On another note, a lot of the websites that list containers give a description of what they consider a one-trip, used, or any other quality they offer. I suggest you screenshot and print that out as well as any warranty claims they make. A lot of times these containers are bought by lots with a mix of qualities in them and if they have over-bid on a lot they might call a "very good used" container as a "one-trip" container. The more provable information you have, the more powerful your standing is in the argument.
My container is next to my garage so I ran an electrical line to it so I'd have lights inside. And a good idea is to run a small fan by one of the vents to pull in some air and blow it thru the container to keep condensation from forming (it works very well) The doors are a pain to open so I removed the inside two bars off the doors, so I would only have to unlock two bars to open the doors. Eventually I installed a garage door opener in the ceiling, with rods to hinges on both doors to open them. It works like carriage doors on a garage (that's where I got the idea) and it works flawlessly.
Unless you are on a tight budget, one trip containers are definitely the way to go in my opinion. I have purchased two in the past three years, one 20' and one 40', both high-cube, and they have been totally water tight with no rodent or spider/insect ingress. I live quite a ways inland and also remote which doesn't work out for me price-wise, however, I feel that the $5000.00 average that I paid was well worth it. Since my local dealer had them in stock I was able to inspect the containers before purchase. The dealer also sells multiple use containers at about $2000.00 less but most are very well used with rust, dents, and mediocre seals. The doors and the seals are most important. Dents are purely ascetics, and since they are made from Corten steel, rust isn't a huge issue, however, I have seen a few that were nearly perforated due to rust.
The gaskets on those doors will last far longer than 10 years. A used container can also last you a lifetime. I've bought and picked up shipping containers that were placed directly on the ground and sat there for over 40 years. It had the original gaskets which were still good and there was not even a sign of rust through. When the I got it from had purchased it he purchased it as a used container so it had already been across the sea many times. You don't even necessarily have to throw a coat of paint on them. They are made out of corten steel which is an architectural steel it was literally designed to be placed on buildings and structures without any paint. It's an anti corrosive steel. It creates a patina coat of rust on the outside which basically seals it from rusting further. It would literally be pointless for most people to purchase a new shipping container unless they are building a house or some sort of structure with them or if they lived in an HOA a or the city which required a new one. A used container can literally last just about as long as a new container. By the time it's in a condition where it's not usable you'd be dead. Keep in mind I am referring to a decent used container not a piece of junk one where forklifts have run into them a bunch of times and punched holes through them etc. If you purchase a one trip container and it has dents like yours they should have sold it to you at a lower cost, called you and informed you of the damage before they head your way or they should have rejected it when they went to pick it up at the container yard and had it swapped out for a replacement that's good. The damage on your container by the door which is causing a hang up, if the handles open and close easy with the door open but are hard to operate while you're opening or closing the door that dent probably shortened the rod so it's binding up on the catch that's welded to the container. You can solve the issue by grinding down the catch a bit so it's not binding up. On average it takes about 45 days to get a container to the USA from China. The container you have in this video would be considered a one trip container so it would have only made a trip from China to the USA that 1 time. The rest of the time it would have been sitting at a port or in a container yard somewhere. I sell containers nationwide however I primarily deal with selling and delivering them locally in South Carolina / Georgia. I do cash on delivery so they don't pay me until they actually see it and it's there at their site or they are always welcome to come take a look at it before purchasing. You definitely have to be careful with who you get it from. You also have to be careful paying with a credit card for them. The reason I do payment upon delivery is because there are many scammers out there now who will take people's money and it's not always possible to reverse it even with a credit card. I only take credit card payments for containers on rare occasions because I have personally been screwed out of money where a customer gets their container and then request a refund through PayPal or their credit card company for no reason at all other then to scam me and CC companies are generally more in favour of the customer than they are the seller. Another thing to keep in mind if you pay with a credit card is there's usually a processing fee associated with it. One last thing is a new shipping container isn't actually new it's still a used container. It had freight loaded in it, it was shipped across the ocean and was put on a truck and brought to its delivery location, unloaded and sent back to a container yard to be stored, therefore dents can occur during that process. Even at that they should still at a minimum notify you of the damage before heading your way to make sure your OK with it. If I was the driver I would not want to risk having to return a load after I went to the customers delivery site therefore I would let the customer know of the damage before leaving the container yard. One thing you said which is irritating is "even if you inspect the container before they deliver it you should still pay with a credit card because you may have overlooked something." That's pretty messed up if you went out and looked at a container, overlooked something and then expect a refund for something you overlooked. That's a cheap ass right there. Suck it up and own your mistakes It's not a seller's fault if you overlook something, that's on you.
It's metal.....just beat the dent out and paint it. You need to be more worried about getting that thing up off the ground and put some gravel and Visqueen under it to keep the moisture from coming up from the ground and into your container and rotting out the bottom.
i find most container places charge you an extra 3% to pay by credit card. We were fortunate to be able to pick ours up in person and transport ourselves. The company we bought from allowed us to pick out our container, any damaged ones were discounted. Very happy.
There is no such thing as a new container in USA, they are not allowed to ship them here empty, they are one trip containers. Nothing you showed on video is very bad nor affects the usefulness of container. you should have done more research on what you was buying.
Its painted/ dented because its a huge metal vessel. Its a “shipping container” not a corvette!! As long as it is water tight and air tight! Stop expecting it to be gold plated perfection. ( LMAO at “total loss” )
Seems a lot of people didnt finish video and or didnt peruse comments. If you had you would see he filed a dispute with the credit card company based on condition promised and condition received. Total cost: $0.
Dents are to be expected even in once used containers. You paid double the price because you didn't want to change a seal (that you probably would never had to change anyway) even though a WWT container would be guaranteed for at least 5 years and still not need a new seal for years after that.
Our family just bought two new containers, bought from two different companies. From one company anyones that had any dents were discounted, ones considered new came with no dents at all. Very good company. The company we purchased the other one from, a much smaller company, their news ones had dents with no discount. So i guess its who you buy from! We bought in person, so knew what we were getting, shipped ourselves. Both places the price of new was the same.
None of those dents perforate the metal so I could live with those, but damage to the latch is unacceptable. New hardware is the entire reason I buy new containers.
The bottom is probably super scratched. I wonder if it would be better to pour a slab or maybe some parallel concrete bars so sit the container away from the dirt.
The bottom is made with steel bar joist spanning left to right looking in the door. They are on 11" centers. Then a plywood floor is screwed down and edges caulked . So as you look in the doorway every 11 inches is a steel bar running from left to right. Where there is no steel support the only thing between contents and whatever is beneath the 1 1/16 " plywood is the 1 1/16" of plywood. The plywood is the bottom of the container.
Very informative and educational. Brings awareness to potential issues and what to look before before purchasing. I am in the process of purchasing a “new” 20 foot container. Thanks for the video...
All new 1 trip Container will have small dents and will have been used once. To be honest there is no such thing as a new container is what people should keep in mind. You paid 1000's of dollars for delivery. its always good to buy from local Storage Container Company's so your not paying so much on delivery. When buying a container you have to invest in maintaining it every year, or else it will fall apart condensation will reek havoc.
NO, the dents ARE an issue. If you want to use it JUST for storage, yeah. But if you want to make it into anything else, you want straight undented sides and tops. Dents in the top will hold water, and lead to rust through. Dents in the wall make it hard to put in straight walls.
@@ffjsb the dents he showed are small and on the outer wall ribs... 8 dollars in paint is all this container needs. it's sheet metal -- grab a sledgehammer...
It's almost impossible to get a used container and inspect it before shipping. Most are sold through brokers, out of a container yard they don't own, and the yards won't let you on the property to inspect due to liability. It's well worth the money to buy a one trip container if you plan on doing anything with it other that just plain storage.
When I bought my container, I first went to the yard where they had all their containers, so you could inspect and pick the container you want. I paid for it, got it delivered (free 20 miles away) I am very pleased with it. I just use it for storage so I added extra vents to it and installed a mini fan to keep the condensation down. Works great!
Ok yeah that is a bit rough for "new" (one trip) but I mean really it's 3 dents on the main hull that cause no structural damage. The dents look to be about 1/2" deep and caused by a forklift. The one on the door is fair to complain about, but the others are just nit picking. You do realize these people are most likely dock workers that don't get paid enough to care about a few little dents.
Hey there, bought my first shipping container, a used one 20’ long, about 10 years old, floor had a repair. One of the door latches with a bend. No rust to speak of, a few dents, not as many as you seem to have. Not a high cube, wish it was. I was told I could have one in a 20 footer, but it would be a cut down from a 40 footer. Paid just under 3k delivered.
Seems prices are pretty consistent all around my area .Minor flesh wounds I wouldn't personally bother being aggravated over but man a $1k delivery ? You had to be pretty far from the port . May want to block the front up .Direct contact with the soil can't be good .
I bought a K LINE cont from an individual 86 miles from me off of facebook 40 ft high cube with no dents $2000 in May could not get anybody to bring it to me. Had to pay a local wrecker service. to pull it on to the driveway $150 . The transport truck had no wench. Finally got it delivered SEPT 16 for $450 . The previous owner wiped the driver $150 to get it out of his yard. Localy this cont would have cost me $3800 delivered. So don't be in a hurry to get a cont delivered.
Some of that's on you friend. You kept referring to the container as "new", but it's obviously a "one-trip" container. I can't say I've ever even seen a "new, totally unused" cargo container for sale. It's likely been through multiple ports, truck yards, and depots reaching it's original destination to be unloaded then put up for sale. The dings in the metal are pretty typical for a one trip container. The door latch is for sure BS, and never should have shipped out that way. I wouldn't even accept delivery of a old, damaged container if the doors weren't good. Which brings up the question: Did you explain EXACTLY to the seller that you weren't willing to accept anything but perfection from an obviously used item? If you are unpleased about ANYTHING about a delivery, use your right to refuse it right then. When you "accept" delivery of a freight item and sign for it, you're basically "accepting" the previously agreed-upon terms as well as the delivered state of said item, or you can refuse delivery and send it back right then. Calling them after the fact wanting a bunch of money instead of refusing delivery when you could have, isn't very ethical in my book. The obvious solution is to buy from a local vendor if possible so you can inspect the item before purchase. Not an option for everyone I know. As far as used container prices in my area, they're only about $1000 cheaper than a one-trip right now, with 10+ years of hard use and abuse on them. Really not enough cost savings to justify all the work it would take for me to repair, weld, refloor, and paint an old beater. Give me one ready to walk into and use!
That is not a "New" container sir. That is called a one trip container which brought one load from CHINA. Actually NEW containers are available for about a thousand more and they are made on this continent somewhere. These are referred to as "pristine" and you will pay more for it. You got exactly what you paid for, or got duped by them.
Where are you located? 5k for a 1 Trip is really high for a coastal state. Plus delivery is usually $400 minimum or $4 a mile. You should shop around and look at the numbers. Plus Phill is right "NEW" containers aren't really new
You need to report it even though they gonna deny it. Do it for future customers If they keep having complaints or reports Sooner of later, someone gonna fight them and the complaints or report will screw them
Hi. Life is just like that. it never goes the way you expect it. I agree call the shipper (seller of container) BEFORE it comes off the truck if you see something that is going to give you nightmares. Otherwise once you accepted it you gave the trucker the break before you found out if the seller was going to give you a discount if applicable so you put yourself in the position you arrived at. If it was me and I am very picky I would have just bit the bullet on that container if I let it come off the truck without inspecting it first for obvious issues regardless of the truckers "wife and the pet dog transport company". Warm up the dented area with a Targa torch and put your buddy or wife on the other side of those dents with chuck of flat steel and start pounding from the inside pretending it was the guy that made the dents. Somehow I think the guy that made the dents or the bad weather was trying to have a perfect day as well. After pounding out dents and take a few matching spray bombs and touch up all rust spots. Take the bent door rod off, heat it up and straighten it out or replace it. Getting that container for free via credit card charge back sounds free but someone eats that along the way or down the road a piece including one of the reasons for such high interest on credit cards. I like the fellow that uses cash on delivery method and delivers his containers. If it wasn't as expected the two of ya can work it out a reasonable discount over a drink like grown ups and go to bed happy when the day is over. Cheers
Wow, you are a nitpicking to the extreme. Yeah the door hardware is a bummer but those tiny little dents? All shipping containers are made in China. So if you want a new container it has to be shipped anyway. So “new” containers are single use containers because it would be stupid to send it empty. My suggestion to you if you want a new container that is perfect you have two options. Either pay an American company to custom make you one, or buy yourself a barge sail to China, hire a transport company to go with you to pick up your container at the factory as it comes off the line. Then you load it onto the truck and at the dock you can load it into your barge and you can secure it so that nothing slides around on your months long trip across the ocean no matter what weather on the open seas does to your barge. Now when you get tho that American coast you can dock and arrange to rent someone’s crane and get transport company that will let you load it and drive yourself to your property where you have arranged for the equipment you need so you can unload and position the container in its final position. I’m sure your critical eye will find not a scratch, ding, or dent anywhere on your nice new shipping container. Or you could keep the one you have and heat that rod and smack it back in shape and get on with your life.
Agreed. This guy keeps saying, "I would not consider this container new". No shit. It was on a boat for 6 months prior to your purchasing it. He even acknowledges this fact in his video at the beginning and says that he buys these "one-time used" containers because the seals are new and they haven't seen a ton of sea salt. He quickly forget this as he is describing the condition however.
You are wrong saying you bought a new container, there is no such thing as a new container for sale. They sale them as One Trip. Meaning they was used once. I agree with you on the door should not be bent
Billy pate, 9 or 10 g is way exaggerated. The factory new are closer to 2 k. Or two thousand dollars. Not sure what a 9 g is. Maybe you mean 9 k . Do your research so much bs on internet because of no it alls with no facts. A new container at the factory sells cheaper than a one time or used in usa. If you need any I will get you all you need for 8 g. Lol. New 20 ft, sells for around 2000 dollars. Then used once, in america are about 3700.. 40 ft. High cube one trip about 4700. Used cargo ready air and water tight under 3000. I bought 2. Where did you get your info?
a new 40ft container ex china is about 4.5K. If you are clever you will approach an import/export agent and agree to let someone use your container for free but they pay the freight (they would have anyway - so they lose nothing and get the free use of the container - you do know you rent the container when you import stuff in them?)
One trip doesn’t mean new if your buying a “new” container your being scammed all containers for sale are at least one trip if it was made in USA it’s gone overseas and made its way back once if it was made in China it went from China to USA and stopped. One trip = round trip
Go to any shipping container sales/rental site and a one trip container is listed as an "A" grade new container lol. A grade "B" has damage and many trips and may even be several years old. They go down in grade and price after that. Containers are only allowed so much damage and repair before they are not worthy to be used on a vessel to transport products across the sea.
Non such thing as new they aren't made in the US. The dents on the sides would tbug me at all. Don't love the damage to thr lock mechanism but I've seen worse.
The fact that you paid $5,000 for this container and paid another $1,000 for delivery is ridiculous. Also if you weren't satisfied with it before it was unloaded they were still going to charge you the $1,000 to send it back just showed that that company should not be trusted and you should've listed their name to warn others
No..not at all. If its sold as new and represented a certain way then that is what you should get. As he said, known issues were made clear. If there is any damage beyond that (and you agreed to) then its not acceptable. Why you would not get that is strange.
Industrial product. Look at what an end of life container looks like. That looks like a " new" container to me. No holes, no patches, no dents affecting more tan one rib.
i can't believe this guy... used shipping containers will always have dents, and the ones you show are all small and don't affect the container's use. I'm buying a few containers soon and I'd be thrilled if I got them in the shape yours is in. I'd hate to have you as a customer.
I cant believe YOU! If you have that container sitting in your yard in full view who wants unsightly dings in a container to look at? I guess if you have low standards it does not matter how many dings it has on it.
Can’t claim it’s new. They tell you it’s a one trip. They are all used but the one trip are gently used. A scratch here or there is to be expected. You will never find a perfect container unless it’s off an assembly line
Yes but if permanent you should use the locking apparatus in the upper slots to lock them together and have them anchored down well. You don’t want strong winds to make them a moving wrecking ball.
@@lisaleedavidsonyou cannot lock a 20' box on a 40'. Unless you are only locking the front or rear corners. All 4 would be impossible without modifications
They all suck. Every last one of them. They will lie on their ads, saying that you can come pick one out, but when you call them, "Oh, we can't have customers in our yard."
@@throngcleaver thats not necessarily true. I sell shipping containers and if someone wants to come take a look at 1 if I have one at my yard they are more than welcome to come inspect them. Yes there are some container yards mainly the large ones which will give you the excuse that due to insurance or safety reasons you are not allowed on the yard to just go and look. Most of the time that's a lie. I pick up from several different container yards and I have had some give me that excuse which is just a bunch of BS. At a minimum require pictures all the way around the container before they bring the container to you so you have an idea of what your getting before they leave the container. Each individual person has their own idea of what's acceptable to them. Some containers you think no one would want there's plenty out who would want it.
@@AllThingsRamdom Thank you for your response, and for your advice. I wish your business was near me. I shouldn't have said "all" of them are like that, because that's NOT true, but in my area, (a large metro area in the Midwest) I called every business that claims to have containers for sale, many of which advertise online, like on Craigslist and other sites. I also went through the Yellow Pages, and called all the local companies listed there. None of them would allow me to pick out a container from their yard. Many were just middlemen, that mark up the prices. One of the middlemen that I got a quote from, wanted to charge me $900 to ship one 20' one-tripper 106 miles. That's a lot for 4 hours of driving. Everyone else that I got quotes from was at or below $500. Then there are the dozens of companies that are in other states, sometimes three states away, advertising their containers. More middlemen, that have access to all the yards in the country that have containers available. I gave up and had a pole barn built.
Your microphone is making clicking sounds. I don’t know why they do it. I have had two separate mics do that. By the way there is no “new” containers. Every one they sell as new is shipped from Asia with cargo and unloaded then sold as new.
you mention that the container is used one or two times and then you mention several times that they're new ? so which is it? slightly used or brand new? , most likely it is a one trip , one time used container from China with cargo . I do not know what / how the seller presented it to you , but it is very common that the one trip like new containers could have dings and dents . Those ding and dents are common on on one trip, one time used containers made in China and used one time with cargo for economic transport to other parts of the world to be sold on the second hand market. The minor dents which you show do not effect the usage of the container, as a matter of fact they fall in the tolerances & guidelines as set by the industry such as ISO CSC IICL etc.. of Not requiring any repair .
Thank you for your video. That is very useful. I am dealing with a larger company so I am not expecting the troubles you had but always good advice. I have been on your end of shipping issues and finger-pointing before and a CC is the place to be if that happens.
You keep calling it a new container. What you have is a one trip. They are all made in China so they had to come over and they sure as shit weren't empty when they did .
You keep saying it's a new container but then you contradict yourself and you said it's probably made a trip or two overseas. How do you expect it to be in perfect shape if it's been in freight? It's not a new container, you bought a used container suck it up buttercup.
no you resurface and replace the latch... can you imagine the cost on doing that to all of the containers that are sold, there would be no shipping container business to begin with or it would be ridiculously expensive to buy.
Can’t claim it’s new. They tell you it’s a one trip. They are all used but the one trip are gently used. A scratch here or there is to be expected. You will never find a perfect container unless it’s off an assembly line
The time to negotiate a discount due unsatisfactory condition is while the container is still on the truck being delivered before you accept the delivery. At that point, YOU have all the leverage because you can simply refuse the delivery and the company will have to eat that $1000 shipping cost (as well as another $1000 they would have to pay the shipping company for the return trip). They will obviously lie to you initially and say you can't do this, but hold firm and they will come down on the price to avoid having to ship it back and pay for all those shipping costs. As soon as you accept delivery and the container is off the truck, THE COMPANY has all the leverage because now you would have to pay the shipping cost back. Don't blame the company, blame yourself for accepting the delivery when you received an item that wasn't satisfactory to you.
Next time decline the load. I was a truck driver and I know what I'm talking about.... The Hot Shot that delivered it will still get paid.... he might get panicked if he hasn't dealt with a refusal before, but the best time to negotiate with the shipper is while the load is on the truck. DO NOT allow the driver to unload the product until a remedy has acured. If you have the ability, record your conversation and let the shipper know you are doing so. It goes along way.
Just denied one myself a week ago from used connex. Sometimes they try pawning garbage on people. Hole in the frame from rust and was beat to crap with gouges. They'll try to make you keep it and threaten to still charge shipping. Always pay with card. Got my full refund
On another note, a lot of the websites that list containers give a description of what they consider a one-trip, used, or any other quality they offer. I suggest you screenshot and print that out as well as any warranty claims they make. A lot of times these containers are bought by lots with a mix of qualities in them and if they have over-bid on a lot they might call a "very good used" container as a "one-trip" container. The more provable information you have, the more powerful your standing is in the argument.
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If you’re the meticulous type - NEVER GO WORK OUT IN AN OFFSHORE OILFIELD 🤣🤣. Lines are a combination of dents...!
Good call Dave
And less lip smacking
Would be nice if you opened the video with how much the container cost, total cost
Thanks.
My container is next to my garage so I ran an electrical line to it so I'd have lights inside. And a good idea is to run a small fan by one of the vents to pull in some air and blow it thru the container to keep condensation from forming (it works very well)
The doors are a pain to open so I removed the inside two bars off the doors, so I would only have to unlock two bars to open the doors. Eventually I installed a garage door opener in the ceiling, with rods to hinges on both doors to open them. It works like carriage doors on a garage (that's where I got the idea) and it works flawlessly.
If the doors are hard to open, that's a pretty sure sign that it's not level. I was surprised how much difference a couple of inches can make.
Unless you are on a tight budget, one trip containers are definitely the way to go in my opinion. I have purchased two in the past three years, one 20' and one 40', both high-cube, and they have been totally water tight with no rodent or spider/insect ingress. I live quite a ways inland and also remote which doesn't work out for me price-wise, however, I feel that the $5000.00 average that I paid was well worth it. Since my local dealer had them in stock I was able to inspect the containers before purchase. The dealer also sells multiple use containers at about $2000.00 less but most are very well used with rust, dents, and mediocre seals. The doors and the seals are most important. Dents are purely ascetics, and since they are made from Corten steel, rust isn't a huge issue, however, I have seen a few that were nearly perforated due to rust.
The gaskets on those doors will last far longer than 10 years.
A used container can also last you a lifetime. I've bought and picked up shipping containers that were placed directly on the ground and sat there for over 40 years. It had the original gaskets which were still good and there was not even a sign of rust through. When the I got it from had purchased it he purchased it as a used container so it had already been across the sea many times.
You don't even necessarily have to throw a coat of paint on them. They are made out of corten steel which is an architectural steel it was literally designed to be placed on buildings and structures without any paint. It's an anti corrosive steel. It creates a patina coat of rust on the outside which basically seals it from rusting further. It would literally be pointless for most people to purchase a new shipping container unless they are building a house or some sort of structure with them or if they lived in an HOA a or the city which required a new one. A used container can literally last just about as long as a new container. By the time it's in a condition where it's not usable you'd be dead. Keep in mind I am referring to a decent used container not a piece of junk one where forklifts have run into them a bunch of times and punched holes through them etc.
If you purchase a one trip container and it has dents like yours they should have sold it to you at a lower cost, called you and informed you of the damage before they head your way or they should have rejected it when they went to pick it up at the container yard and had it swapped out for a replacement that's good.
The damage on your container by the door which is causing a hang up, if the handles open and close easy with the door open but are hard to operate while you're opening or closing the door that dent probably shortened the rod so it's binding up on the catch that's welded to the container. You can solve the issue by grinding down the catch a bit so it's not binding up.
On average it takes about 45 days to get a container to the USA from China.
The container you have in this video would be considered a one trip container so it would have only made a trip from China to the USA that 1 time. The rest of the time it would have been sitting at a port or in a container yard somewhere.
I sell containers nationwide however I primarily deal with selling and delivering them locally in South Carolina / Georgia. I do cash on delivery so they don't pay me until they actually see it and it's there at their site or they are always welcome to come take a look at it before purchasing. You definitely have to be careful with who you get it from. You also have to be careful paying with a credit card for them. The reason I do payment upon delivery is because there are many scammers out there now who will take people's money and it's not always possible to reverse it even with a credit card. I only take credit card payments for containers on rare occasions because I have personally been screwed out of money where a customer gets their container and then request a refund through PayPal or their credit card company for no reason at all other then to scam me and CC companies are generally more in favour of the customer than they are the seller. Another thing to keep in mind if you pay with a credit card is there's usually a processing fee associated with it.
One last thing is a new shipping container isn't actually new it's still a used container. It had freight loaded in it, it was shipped across the ocean and was put on a truck and brought to its delivery location, unloaded and sent back to a container yard to be stored, therefore dents can occur during that process. Even at that they should still at a minimum notify you of the damage before heading your way to make sure your OK with it. If I was the driver I would not want to risk having to return a load after I went to the customers delivery site therefore I would let the customer know of the damage before leaving the container yard. One thing you said which is irritating is "even if you inspect the container before they deliver it you should still pay with a credit card because you may have overlooked something." That's pretty messed up if you went out and looked at a container, overlooked something and then expect a refund for something you overlooked. That's a cheap ass right there. Suck it up and own your mistakes It's not a seller's fault if you overlook something, that's on you.
Yea, what he said. 100%
Hi there. How do I connect with you to purchase one?
@@urbanvegsa1928 what area are you in?
He ended up getting it for free. Kinda messed up.
Are you still selling containers!
You never buy "new" containers, they are one trip containers, no container comes here from China empty.
I believe that the gentleman stated that fact. One trip containers are considered new.
@@ronlheureux7623 They are advertised as one trip because they were used one time so they may have some normal wear and tear from that use.
@@phillhuddleston9445 That's the point that was making. I must have crossed some wires.
A one trip grade A container is listed as "new" on every shipping container web site.
It's metal.....just beat the dent out and paint it. You need to be more worried about getting that thing up off the ground and put some gravel and Visqueen under it to keep the moisture from coming up from the ground and into your container and rotting out the bottom.
i find most container places charge you an extra 3% to pay by credit card. We were fortunate to be able to pick ours up in person and transport ourselves. The company we bought from allowed us to pick out our container, any damaged ones were discounted. Very happy.
There is no such thing as a new container in USA, they are not allowed to ship them here empty, they are one trip containers. Nothing you showed on video is very bad nor affects the usefulness of container. you should have done more research on what you was buying.
Its painted/ dented because its a huge metal vessel. Its a “shipping container” not a corvette!! As long as it is water tight and air tight! Stop expecting it to be gold plated perfection. ( LMAO at “total loss” )
Seems a lot of people didnt finish video and or didnt peruse comments. If you had you would see he filed a dispute with the credit card company based on condition promised and condition received. Total cost: $0.
great vid thanks 🙂
Many thanks for your video and advices. We love you, here in Florida.
Dents are to be expected even in once used containers. You paid double the price because you didn't want to change a seal (that you probably would never had to change anyway) even though a WWT container would be guaranteed for at least 5 years and still not need a new seal for years after that.
Our family just bought two new containers, bought from two different companies. From one company anyones that had any dents were discounted, ones considered new came with no dents at all. Very good company. The company we purchased the other one from, a much smaller company, their news ones had dents with no discount. So i guess its who you buy from! We bought in person, so knew what we were getting, shipped ourselves. Both places the price of new was the same.
None of those dents perforate the metal so I could live with those, but damage to the latch is unacceptable. New hardware is the entire reason I buy new containers.
Exactly. Did I mention I ended up getting this container for free 😂
@@OffgridVictory And likely taught that company a lesson about charge backs. I wonder if they are cash only now :)
The bottom is probably super scratched. I wonder if it would be better to pour a slab or maybe some parallel concrete bars so sit the container away from the dirt.
The bottom is made with steel bar joist spanning left to right looking in the door. They are on 11" centers. Then a plywood floor is screwed down and edges caulked . So as you look in the doorway every 11 inches is a steel bar running from left to right. Where there is no steel support the only thing between contents and whatever is beneath the 1 1/16 " plywood is the 1 1/16" of plywood. The plywood is the bottom of the container.
Very informative and educational. Brings awareness to potential issues and what to look before before purchasing. I am in the process of purchasing a “new” 20 foot container. Thanks for the video...
All new 1 trip Container will have small dents and will have been used once. To be honest there is no such thing as a new container is what people should keep in mind. You paid 1000's of dollars for delivery. its always good to buy from local Storage Container Company's so your not paying so much on delivery. When buying a container you have to invest in maintaining it every year, or else it will fall apart condensation will reek havoc.
Please do telll... who was the company? FSH should I put one of these in my Back yard?
The dents dont affect the usefulness of the container, your being ridiculous. Its just a few dents. The door hardware is a big issue
NO, the dents ARE an issue. If you want to use it JUST for storage, yeah. But if you want to make it into anything else, you want straight undented sides and tops. Dents in the top will hold water, and lead to rust through. Dents in the wall make it hard to put in straight walls.
@@ffjsb the dents he showed are small and on the outer wall ribs... 8 dollars in paint is all this container needs. it's sheet metal -- grab a sledgehammer...
What's wrong with you people...he did not get what he paid for
I didn't see any damage that wasn't minor, other than the bent door latch bar.
Make sure you're willing to pay extra 2.9% fee or higher for using the credit card , that is what your going to be charged
It's almost impossible to get a used container and inspect it before shipping. Most are sold through brokers, out of a container yard they don't own, and the yards won't let you on the property to inspect due to liability. It's well worth the money to buy a one trip container if you plan on doing anything with it other that just plain storage.
We have a container yard 3 blocks from my work and you can see and touch the containers first, t they aren’t the cheapest
When I bought my container, I first went to the yard where they had all their containers, so you could inspect and pick the container you want. I paid for it, got it delivered (free 20 miles away) I am very pleased with it. I just use it for storage so I added extra vents to it and installed a mini fan to keep the condensation down. Works great!
What companies do you recommend purchasing from who you havent had any issues with regarding new containers.
Name the company so that other buyers wouldnt have to deal with them again.
They are all the same, and they all suck.
That's would cause him more trouble, unless free speech is real
How would the credit card company help you? Does the full payment still get paid on the container by them?
The credit card will issue you a complete refund and then get the funds back from the seller... it’s called a charger back.
I've heard that they are never new, they are used once (one way), so might be a good idea for people to do their research before making a purchase.
Ok yeah that is a bit rough for "new" (one trip) but I mean really it's 3 dents on the main hull that cause no structural damage. The dents look to be about 1/2" deep and caused by a forklift. The one on the door is fair to complain about, but the others are just nit picking. You do realize these people are most likely dock workers that don't get paid enough to care about a few little dents.
Hey there, bought my first shipping container, a used one 20’ long, about 10 years old, floor had a repair. One of the door latches with a bend.
No rust to speak of, a few dents, not as many as you seem to have. Not a high cube, wish it was. I was told I could have one in a 20 footer, but it would be a cut down from a 40 footer. Paid just under 3k delivered.
I was quoted $2450 delivered for a used 40HC, I called today and they told me price went to to $3500.
Very good advice, LOOK IT OVER carefully, Take PICTURES inside and out top to bottom.
Shalom
I should have labeled this video... how to get a free container with a credit card 😂. Shalom👊🏼
Seems prices are pretty consistent all around my area .Minor flesh wounds I wouldn't personally bother being aggravated over but man a $1k delivery ? You had to be pretty far from the port . May want to block the front up .Direct contact with the soil can't be good .
Thank you
I bought a K LINE cont from an individual 86 miles from me off of facebook 40 ft high cube with no dents $2000 in May could not get anybody to bring it to me. Had to pay a local wrecker service. to pull it on to the driveway $150 . The transport truck had no wench. Finally got it delivered SEPT 16 for $450 . The previous owner wiped the driver $150 to get it out of his yard. Localy this cont would have cost me $3800 delivered. So don't be in a hurry to get a cont delivered.
Thank you for the much needed advice. I was planning on paying cash . SHALOM
I'm not able to get a credit card, so can I use a debit card?
Shalom 🖕
Some of that's on you friend. You kept referring to the container as "new", but it's obviously a "one-trip" container. I can't say I've ever even seen a "new, totally unused" cargo container for sale. It's likely been through multiple ports, truck yards, and depots reaching it's original destination to be unloaded then put up for sale. The dings in the metal are pretty typical for a one trip container. The door latch is for sure BS, and never should have shipped out that way. I wouldn't even accept delivery of a old, damaged container if the doors weren't good. Which brings up the question: Did you explain EXACTLY to the seller that you weren't willing to accept anything but perfection from an obviously used item? If you are unpleased about ANYTHING about a delivery, use your right to refuse it right then. When you "accept" delivery of a freight item and sign for it, you're basically "accepting" the previously agreed-upon terms as well as the delivered state of said item, or you can refuse delivery and send it back right then. Calling them after the fact wanting a bunch of money instead of refusing delivery when you could have, isn't very ethical in my book. The obvious solution is to buy from a local vendor if possible so you can inspect the item before purchase. Not an option for everyone I know. As far as used container prices in my area, they're only about $1000 cheaper than a one-trip right now, with 10+ years of hard use and abuse on them. Really not enough cost savings to justify all the work it would take for me to repair, weld, refloor, and paint an old beater. Give me one ready to walk into and use!
How did credit card company handled it... what was the benefit to you?
A 3lb mallet, some primer and nice paint will do wonders.
That is not a "New" container sir. That is called a one trip container which brought one load from CHINA. Actually NEW containers are available for about a thousand more and they are made on this continent somewhere. These are referred to as "pristine" and you will pay more for it. You got exactly what you paid for, or got duped by them.
every new container is a "first trip" item, its used one times, because its produced in China and shipped once loaded with cargo.
Thank you for sharing your experience good sir !
Where are you located? 5k for a 1 Trip is really high for a coastal state. Plus delivery is usually $400 minimum or $4 a mile.
You should shop around and look at the numbers.
Plus Phill is right "NEW" containers aren't really new
thank you That was my thought exactly! This guy is nuts!
You need to report it even though they gonna deny it.
Do it for future customers
If they keep having complaints or reports
Sooner of later, someone gonna fight them and the complaints or report will screw them
Company name?
Hi. Life is just like that. it never goes the way you expect it. I agree call the shipper (seller of container) BEFORE it comes off the truck if you see something that is going to give you nightmares. Otherwise once you accepted it you gave the trucker the break before you found out if the seller was going to give you a discount if applicable so you put yourself in the position you arrived at.
If it was me and I am very picky I would have just bit the bullet on that container if I let it come off the truck without inspecting it first for obvious issues regardless of the truckers "wife and the pet dog transport company". Warm up the dented area with a Targa torch and put your buddy or wife on the other side of those dents with chuck of flat steel and start pounding from the inside pretending it was the guy that made the dents. Somehow I think the guy that made the dents or the bad weather was trying to have a perfect day as well. After pounding out dents and take a few matching spray bombs and touch up all rust spots. Take the bent door rod off, heat it up and straighten it out or replace it. Getting that container for free via credit card charge back sounds free but someone eats that along the way or down the road a piece including one of the reasons for such high interest on credit cards.
I like the fellow that uses cash on delivery method and delivers his containers. If it wasn't as expected the two of ya can work it out a reasonable discount over a drink like grown ups and go to bed happy when the day is over.
Cheers
Wow, you are a nitpicking to the extreme. Yeah the door hardware is a bummer but those tiny little dents? All shipping containers are made in China. So if you want a new container it has to be shipped anyway. So “new” containers are single use containers because it would be stupid to send it empty. My suggestion to you if you want a new container that is perfect you have two options. Either pay an American company to custom make you one, or buy yourself a barge sail to China, hire a transport company to go with you to pick up your container at the factory as it comes off the line. Then you load it onto the truck and at the dock you can load it into your barge and you can secure it so that nothing slides around on your months long trip across the ocean no matter what weather on the open seas does to your barge. Now when you get tho that American coast you can dock and arrange to rent someone’s crane and get transport company that will let you load it and drive yourself to your property where you have arranged for the equipment you need so you can unload and position the container in its final position. I’m sure your critical eye will find not a scratch, ding, or dent anywhere on your nice new shipping container. Or you could keep the one you have and heat that rod and smack it back in shape and get on with your life.
Sounds like a reasonable plan 🤣😂🤪
Exactly! Epic!
Agreed. This guy keeps saying, "I would not consider this container new". No shit. It was on a boat for 6 months prior to your purchasing it. He even acknowledges this fact in his video at the beginning and says that he buys these "one-time used" containers because the seals are new and they haven't seen a ton of sea salt. He quickly forget this as he is describing the condition however.
You are wrong saying you bought a new container, there is no such thing as a new container for sale. They sale them as One Trip. Meaning they was used once. I agree with you on the door should not be bent
it's a 1 time use container some damage (dents/scratches, ect) are common you would pay close to 9 to 10G for a new one!
Billy pate, 9 or 10 g is way exaggerated. The factory new are closer to 2 k. Or two thousand dollars. Not sure what a 9 g is. Maybe you mean 9 k . Do your research so much bs on internet because of no it alls with no facts. A new container at the factory sells cheaper than a one time or used in usa. If you need any I will get you all you need for 8 g. Lol. New 20 ft, sells for around 2000 dollars. Then used once, in america are about 3700.. 40 ft. High cube one trip about 4700. Used cargo ready air and water tight under 3000. I bought 2. Where did you get your info?
@@inharmonywithearth9982 no it isnt k is used for thousand.
a new 40ft container ex china is about 4.5K. If you are clever you will approach an import/export agent and agree to let someone use your container for free but they pay the freight (they would have anyway - so they lose nothing and get the free use of the container - you do know you rent the container when you import stuff in them?)
One trip doesn’t mean new if your buying a “new” container your being scammed all containers for sale are at least one trip if it was made in USA it’s gone overseas and made its way back once if it was made in China it went from China to USA and stopped. One trip = round trip
Go to any shipping container sales/rental site and a one trip container is listed as an "A" grade new container lol. A grade "B" has damage and many trips and may even be several years old. They go down in grade and price after that. Containers are only allowed so much damage and repair before they are not worthy to be used on a vessel to transport products across the sea.
Non such thing as new they aren't made in the US. The dents on the sides would tbug me at all. Don't love the damage to thr lock mechanism but I've seen worse.
The fact that you paid $5,000 for this container and paid another $1,000 for delivery is ridiculous. Also if you weren't satisfied with it before it was unloaded they were still going to charge you the $1,000 to send it back just showed that that company should not be trusted and you should've listed their name to warn others
What company sold you this container?
You're buying a shipping container you want brand-new untouched buy a shed Barn brand-new untouched not a shipping container
Way more expensive and smaller.
No..not at all. If its sold as new and represented a certain way then that is what you should get. As he said, known issues were made clear. If there is any damage beyond that (and you agreed to) then its not acceptable. Why you would not get that is strange.
Please tell us the name of the Company, so we can avoid dealing with them ?
Industrial product. Look at what an end of life container looks like. That looks like a " new" container to me. No holes, no patches, no dents affecting more tan one rib.
How much did the CC company help you out on this?
He made reference in a post up top that he got a complete refund (free).
@@Skyhawks1979 So he stole it. Got it.
Do most shipping container companies try to get rid of their worst containers to customers?
Looks like a one tripper to me!
Really appreciate the video - great info!👍.
high cube!!! Ill even take the ultimate 53" footer.
i can't believe this guy... used shipping containers will always have dents, and the ones you show are all small and don't affect the container's use. I'm buying a few containers soon and I'd be thrilled if I got them in the shape yours is in. I'd hate to have you as a customer.
guess you didn't understand what he said in whole time. The seller quoted him a container as new.
@@reefbeerbuddy1 this is what is sold as a new one trip container... the buyer is being ridiculous and trying to save money by being an asshole.
I cant believe YOU! If you have that container sitting in your yard in full view who wants unsightly dings in a container to look at? I guess if you have low standards it does not matter how many dings it has on it.
You did not buy a new container, it's a 1 trip, therefore it's used one time and hence some use marks.
Can’t claim it’s new. They tell you it’s a one trip. They are all used but the one trip are gently used. A scratch here or there is to be expected. You will never find a perfect container unless it’s off an assembly line
Is it possible to stack a 20 ft container on a 40ft container without any reinforcements on the 40 ft container
Yes but if permanent you should use the locking apparatus in the upper slots to lock them together and have them anchored down well. You don’t want strong winds to make them a moving wrecking ball.
@@lisaleedavidsonyou cannot lock a 20' box on a 40'. Unless you are only locking the front or rear corners. All 4 would be impossible without modifications
I think since this is a video on "how not to buy" shipping containers and the issue you went through, it begs the question "who is the company?"
They all suck. Every last one of them. They will lie on their ads, saying that you can come pick one out, but when you call them, "Oh, we can't have customers in our yard."
@@throngcleaver thats not necessarily true. I sell shipping containers and if someone wants to come take a look at 1 if I have one at my yard they are more than welcome to come inspect them.
Yes there are some container yards mainly the large ones which will give you the excuse that due to insurance or safety reasons you are not allowed on the yard to just go and look. Most of the time that's a lie. I pick up from several different container yards and I have had some give me that excuse which is just a bunch of BS. At a minimum require pictures all the way around the container before they bring the container to you so you have an idea of what your getting before they leave the container. Each individual person has their own idea of what's acceptable to them. Some containers you think no one would want there's plenty out who would want it.
@@AllThingsRamdom Thank you for your response, and for your advice. I wish your business was near me. I shouldn't have said "all" of them are like that, because that's NOT true, but in my area, (a large metro area in the Midwest) I called every business that claims to have containers for sale, many of which advertise online, like on Craigslist and other sites. I also went through the Yellow Pages, and called all the local companies listed there.
None of them would allow me to pick out a container from their yard. Many were just middlemen, that mark up the prices. One of the middlemen that I got a quote from, wanted to charge me $900 to ship one 20' one-tripper 106 miles. That's a lot for 4 hours of driving. Everyone else that I got quotes from was at or below $500.
Then there are the dozens of companies that are in other states, sometimes three states away, advertising their containers. More middlemen, that have access to all the yards in the country that have containers available.
I gave up and had a pole barn built.
The door leaver is the biggest problem
you never said how much they took off the price.
Your microphone is making clicking sounds. I don’t know why they do it. I have had two separate mics do that. By the way there is no “new” containers. Every one they sell as new is shipped from Asia with cargo and unloaded then sold as new.
Is it certified for ocean shipping? That is a most important consideration unless you are parking it in the back yard.
you mention that the container is used one or two times and then you mention several times that they're new ? so which is it? slightly used or brand new? , most likely it is a one trip , one time used container from China with cargo . I do not know what / how the seller presented it to you , but it is very common that the one trip like new containers could have dings and dents . Those ding and dents are common on on one trip, one time used containers made in China and used one time with cargo for economic transport to other parts of the world to be sold on the second hand market. The minor dents which you show do not effect the usage of the container, as a matter of fact they fall in the tolerances & guidelines as set by the industry such as ISO CSC IICL etc.. of Not requiring any repair .
There is 12 min of my life that I will never get back... lol
If you get a shipping container for FREE… you’ll be thanking me 🤣
Thank you for your video. That is very useful. I am dealing with a larger company so I am not expecting the troubles you had but always good advice. I have been on your end of shipping issues and finger-pointing before and a CC is the place to be if that happens.
I agree... Even if this was a "One-Trip" container it has too much damage to considered that. Over paid, but it is good for storage though.
Is this a 20' or 40' container?
40
Tell us who you bought it from so we can avoid them.
I think you're exaggerating about the dents. Most important is the age not 2 dents
You keep calling it a new container. What you have is a one trip. They are all made in China so they had to come over and they sure as shit weren't empty when they did .
You ever buy an aluminum container?
Dude this is 2020. There is no “satisfaction “ anymore !
That's a "one trip". That is NOT a 'new' container.
What credit card company fought for you?
No way you're gonna win best in show with those minor imperfections... LOL. It's a shipping container, not a Ferrari
Simple...bondo bro 😎
You keep saying it's a new container but then you contradict yourself and you said it's probably made a trip or two overseas. How do you expect it to be in perfect shape if it's been in freight? It's not a new container, you bought a used container suck it up buttercup.
Thanks for the video i was getting ready to pay cash coz the offered 2.9%discount thanks for the advice! Credit card all the way 😀
Buy COD and you have control!
This is stupid... Dents happen during transport. New is never new...
Why pay by credit card?
did you watch the video? he explained why...
linerror riiiiight?!
@@bearclayton1600 the credit card thing is bull shit that's why he avoided going in to detail.
Great advice!
Can’t stand how the dialogue is punctuated with smacks.
This video is stretched out. Waste of your time.
While I do appreciate the advice in your video, that annoying TICK sound you habitually make with your tongue is huge turn-off.
They should’ve at least replaced the latch & resurfaced some of those rusty dents...
Do you have the company name?
no you resurface and replace the latch... can you imagine the cost on doing that to all of the containers that are sold, there would be no shipping container business to begin with or it would be ridiculously expensive to buy.
Can’t claim it’s new. They tell you it’s a one trip. They are all used but the one trip are gently used. A scratch here or there is to be expected. You will never find a perfect container unless it’s off an assembly line