No Neutral Smart Light Switch - Unboxing and Fitting

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  • Опубліковано 3 жов 2019
  • IIf you want to upgrade your light switches to smart switches you are going to need a live and a neutral wire to connect these switches up.
    If you live in the UK the chances are you do not have a neutral cable in your light switches. Most people in the UK will have a loop in system which means there is only a live cable going to the light switch.
    After much digging, I finally found a company who make No Neutral smart light switches for the UK.
    I bought one from here - www.wifi-smart-home.co.uk/smar...
    I am not affiliated with these guys.
    So far the switch has been flawless and workes well with my Alexa Echo Plus.
    Here is a list of everything used to complete this job
    Light Switch - www.wifi-smart-home.co.uk/one-...
    Alexa - amzn.to/2LIxfqC
    Screwdriver - amzn.to/2InZLf5
    Electrical Tape - amzn.to/31Y5ZKk
    Buy me a Coffee - www.buymeacoffee.com/Handyman...
    UPDATE
    Some of these switches are popping up on eBay and now on Amazon. I have no idea of the quality but they are a good bit cheaper and may be worth checking out. Here are a couple of affiliate links.
    Amazon - amzn.to/3fN8buS
    For the UK -
    ebay.to/3aF6DBI
    US Ebay -
    ebay.to/31bnOYx
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  • @para1559
    @para1559 4 роки тому +20

    Really good video this with all steps explained clearly. Extra bonus for hitting the mute at the end rather than saying "Alexa" and confusing everybody else's system.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the comment. Glad you noticed the dreaded word was missing. Could have been switching lights on and off all over the world 😁.

  • @sdaafasfad
    @sdaafasfad Рік тому +3

    Hi mate. Thanks for the video. I'm a moron and am generally speaking pretty hopeless with this kind of stuff, the kind of moron to pay someone hard earned cash to get this kinda work done. Just installed my first switch and connected with Google Home without issue. Two more to do and at least something at home is gonna be smart, if not the residents 😂 thanks a million for breaking it down step by step, you saved me money and time, two valuable commodities which are hard to get in supply!

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  Рік тому +2

      No problem - smart home stuff is a real rabbit hole. be careful or you will be spending proper money - it all starts with a light switch 😂

  • @mikgdj
    @mikgdj 4 роки тому +9

    Thanks a million for the uncomplicated video mate.
    Just installed and works sweet ❤️

  • @solite4168
    @solite4168 4 роки тому +4

    Great detailed video showing step by step. Thanks for making it. 😍🙏👍

  • @djevil247
    @djevil247 4 роки тому +7

    As an electrician, you haven’t done a bad job as a “Diy-er”. I do agree that you should only tackle any electrical work if your qualified, especially a job like this as more tests would need to be carried out. Something that a “Diy-er” wouldn’t know about. That said, I’ve seen qualified electricians do worse!!

  • @section3212
    @section3212 4 роки тому +7

    thanks for the update for ebay, they've nearly doubled the price with their new switches and it's really put me off buying them. your video was a great guide.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you and thanks for the comment. I am looking at other switches and seeing how they compare.

  • @trulyshocking
    @trulyshocking 3 роки тому

    Very helpful video, I have a fluorescent light that kept flickering need to get an led light bulb

  • @rjrecords
    @rjrecords 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the very useful video. I am going to install mine tomorrow :-).

  • @thesmarthomecollective
    @thesmarthomecollective 3 роки тому

    Thanks mate, best setup video ive seen on this. been trying to work out if i needed to install the capacitor or not before i bought them. Even better that your from Glasgow!

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks 👍. I would install the capacitor. Even if it does work without the capacitor you might want to use a different bulb in the future that may need the capacitor in there.
      A fellow weegie I presume 😊👍

    • @thesmarthomecollective
      @thesmarthomecollective 3 роки тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow I am indeed. Issue I'm having is that the switch feeds external led down lighters that have a really thin profile so not sure the capacitor will fit. Think I'll just need to buy it and try it 👍

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      It can be difficult if you don't have much room. Hope it goes well 👍

  • @JohnnyPacmanFitness
    @JohnnyPacmanFitness 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the tutorial! Well deserved like

  • @trevorcole460
    @trevorcole460 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video, just spent 6 hours yesterday trying too get a three way light switch working , the lights in two of the rooms worked perfectly but the kitchen just flickers when it is off or on, it must be the Neutral connection I made.
    Thanks again for the information, I will rewrite the N today and hopefully all will be good. 🍻

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +1

      Sounds like the capacitor. My lights were flickering both when on and off, the addition of the capacitor solved this.

  • @robparker106
    @robparker106 3 роки тому

    If installing this switch with down lights would the capacitor need to go at the first point?

  • @AidanHeritage
    @AidanHeritage 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video - very useful - I have a ceiling rose for all my lights (thank heavens) so I just (if I need to) wire the capacitor so that it is between both main connections - so it's in parallel with the light?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      That's right. It shows you in the instructions exactly how to fit it.

    • @AidanHeritage
      @AidanHeritage 4 роки тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow Thanks! The new "smart home" is a christmas present for Mrs H, so haven't looked too closely at the instructions yet. Should be an easy enough job though!

  • @cagedleader1
    @cagedleader1 4 роки тому

    Looking to buy the exact same switch (single gang), and wondered about 'what's in the box', installation and test / final results (including the placement of the capacitor). A great informative video, many thanks :)

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the comment 👍

    • @TheDiabeticWay
      @TheDiabeticWay 11 місяців тому

      this setup will not work with colour light bulbs as it puts them into pairing mode!

  • @christopherkennedy314
    @christopherkennedy314 2 роки тому

    What a great channel 👏

  • @TheSimondhearn
    @TheSimondhearn 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video, clear and concise, just what I needed. Got it fitted and working, well sort of...
    I installed one of these light switches in my kitchen to control a dual fluorescent tube, it turns on and off fine but if left on after a while it turns off on it's own, sometimes after a few minutes sometimes twenty minute later.
    Could this indicate I need to install the capacitor?? Thanks

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      Never used one of these switches with fluorescent tubes before. I would fit the capacitor and see if it makes a difference 👍

    • @janongush
      @janongush 3 роки тому

      I'm having a similar problem.. I have a 2 Gang smart switch in bedroom that controls a fluorescent tube and a non fluorescent light fixture. The capacitor is on the non-fluorescent fixture. Initially I noticed that when one switches on fluorescent , the non-fluorescent will flash on then go off then the fluorescent would go on. Now a few weeks down the line what's happening is that the fluorescent is switching itself on and off without any user action. What would you advice me to do?

  • @poppaonboard
    @poppaonboard 4 роки тому +3

    Good video well explained, how easy is it to remove the glass once it's been fitted to the wall?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +1

      Its easy. You pop off from the bottom, there is a place to put your screwdriver. Just don't drop the glass 😀

  • @Beyond-Creation
    @Beyond-Creation 3 роки тому

    Hi just seen this. Sorry if I'm being daft but I have exact same as you behind light switch and followed and all good, however same issue with bulb, mine is actually staying partially dimmed even when off. However in the ceiling rose I have no neutral wire? But do I still just connect the capacitor in live and neutral inside ceiling rose?

  • @ankitsrivastava663
    @ankitsrivastava663 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this , very informative, red is on and blue off was a bit strange

  • @cosminiftode198
    @cosminiftode198 4 роки тому

    Great video, really simple guidance. But I have a problem. My lights will just turn on and off quickly as a disco light. Any idea what am I doing wrong? Might it be because I haven't instaled the smart lights yet?

  • @sajhidbuckreedun5965
    @sajhidbuckreedun5965 3 роки тому

    What led brand did you in the end because mine is still flickering. Can you post a link please? Thank you.

  • @fuzmaginty5822
    @fuzmaginty5822 3 роки тому

    Well explained 👏

  • @johncockram248
    @johncockram248 4 роки тому

    First one I have seen with no neutral, I bought 2 of the old ones and had to put a neutral to the switch.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      This was the only switch I could see in October. Now there are loads of suppliers. They do need a capacitor fitted at the light but that is way easier than fitting a neutral.
      I looked at a few here - ua-cam.com/video/wPc16dm6qd8/v-deo.html
      Some of which were affected by my coffee machine - very strange.

  • @andregabrielse2605
    @andregabrielse2605 Рік тому

    Great video. Just what I needed. Any idea why they used to pull 2 live wires in back in the day?

  • @harrysmith3502
    @harrysmith3502 4 роки тому

    Replace them budget LED’s with a ‘Dim to warm’ option... replicates dichroic lovely when you dim them down.

  • @bobkhan5363
    @bobkhan5363 Рік тому

    Great video mate! Only one I could find that shows how to install properly! Did you leave in the capacitor after changing the bulbs?

  • @JohnnyPacmanFitness
    @JohnnyPacmanFitness 3 роки тому

    ⚠️ Hi! Great video. I just installed the smart switch in my bedroom, which has a twin switch connection, so 2 switches operate the same lights. I replaced the dumb switch with the simpler connection by adding the common to the Neutral whole and L1 & L2 to L and L1 in the smart.
    The issue is that the other dumb switch doesn’t operate the lights anymore.
    Any ideas why?
    Maybe because I connected the N to the common?...

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      Sounds like a two way switch. Not possible with this switch. Though some have used software to make it work.

    • @janongush
      @janongush 3 роки тому

      I had a similar problem only that when I'd switch on the bedroom lights with the dumb switch the smart switch would get disconnected for a few minutes (the WiFi light would go off & the blue light that shows in the off position wouldn't be there) & then it would get reconnected. It frustrated me so much that I just returned the dumb switch. Kindly advise..

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      You can't use these as a two way switch. I tried to get my hall lights to work but not possible.

    • @venimus777
      @venimus777 Рік тому

      You can't use 2-way switch but there is a solution for that. There are RF switches with the same design that are battery operated and you pair them to the main switch. You don't use the wiring for the second switch. So basically that switch acts as a remote control. That of course requires the main switch to have the RF option (most do).

  • @ST_211
    @ST_211 Рік тому

    Will you need to take the router near the switch? My router is far away. Thanks

  • @craiglaverty3931
    @craiglaverty3931 4 роки тому

    Hi thanks for the video, I've been thinking about investing in these,
    I've check one of my houses switches and it only has 2 red wires and no white, how would the wiring work in the back of the new switch?

    • @garrymackenzie309
      @garrymackenzie309 4 роки тому +3

      If it has no other wires and just the two wires in common and L1/L2 then one is the live feed to the switch and would normally be in the common terminal and the other is the live return to the lamp (either in L1 or L2). The live return is sometimes not actually a red wire but a black or blue wire with a red sleeve on it - so this is your L2. The proper red wire is your common. If they are both proper red wires then get a cheap electrical tester like this:
      www.screwfix.com/p/roughneck-electrical-mains-tester-screwdriver-100-250v-ac-slotted-3-5mm-x-130mm/8606x
      You can use this to test which is the actual live - just leave you mains on and test which wire gives a live indicator. Lol, you do this at your own risk of course.

    • @alexcantley9137
      @alexcantley9137 4 роки тому +2

      Employ an electrician lol

  • @SGThirkell
    @SGThirkell 3 роки тому +1

    I believe the capacitor goes across the light terminals if you're having problems as it creates a "virtual neutral" to power the switch

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      It does indeed 👍

    • @farmerbob339
      @farmerbob339 2 роки тому +1

      Not really a "Virtual Neutral" but lets enough current travel through the "Load" lead to power the Switch but not activate the bulb. A "Leak".
      I had this decades ago on a Door Bell that had a keyboard and you could "play in" whatever you wanted the unit to play when activated.

  • @GermanBadGuy
    @GermanBadGuy 3 роки тому +2

    Did anybody measure the added energy intake of the anti flicker unit?

  • @waynepassant5076
    @waynepassant5076 4 роки тому

    Great video. Can I just ask what happens if your WiFi goes down? Can you not operate your lights?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      You can still use your lights. The indicator flashes to let you know that it's not connected.

  • @ovidiuardelean7844
    @ovidiuardelean7844 4 роки тому

    The problem I had with eve switch program was that is working only on 1 device. If you try on two one will get logged out. That is a major issue if you ask me. Hopefully they have fixed that. Nice tutorial

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the info. I only have one device connected so never came across this problem.

  • @darylbull
    @darylbull 4 роки тому +4

    Just went through the same thing had to put a deeper socket on made all the mess than realised mine I bought was a 3 wire dohhh

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +4

      That is annoying. At least you know you can get a switch that doesn't need the neutral.

  • @billcobbett9259
    @billcobbett9259 4 роки тому +1

    I have LED lights that glow after being turned off, so I'll try this trick with the capacitor.

  • @yanz011
    @yanz011 4 роки тому

    Can you set a schedule on that app or maybe on the alexa app to trigger the lights to turn on/off on a certain time?

  • @maddogmcrae
    @maddogmcrae 4 роки тому

    I wonder if they make a version for North America because switches without a neutral line exist here too, and this would be great to have here too.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +1

      There are a few on US eBay. I have included a link to them in the description.

  • @jamespearce40
    @jamespearce40 Рік тому

    Do you connect the capacitor to the live or switch live?

  • @LeezeLawrence
    @LeezeLawrence 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the eBay link, great that it comes with a capacitor.

  • @johnnysilva631
    @johnnysilva631 3 роки тому

    Hi. What capacitor suggest to buy? Thanks.

  • @sherbertdab
    @sherbertdab 3 роки тому

    thanks...more so as we have the same light fitting

  • @gabel5188
    @gabel5188 3 роки тому

    Good concise and easy to understand video.Could you up load a video showing a light light switch with a two way switch?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      I wish I could. I tried everything to get these working as a two way switch but it's not possible with no neutral switches.
      You can set it up in app but if you're Wi-Fi goes down so do your switches, not good.
      There are other alternatives that I am looking into so will upload if I find one that works reliably.

    • @gabel5188
      @gabel5188 3 роки тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow no worries, many thanks for the video anyway.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      👍

  • @UnwrappingByMimiKoteng
    @UnwrappingByMimiKoteng 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing

  • @TheDiabeticWay
    @TheDiabeticWay 11 місяців тому

    I also found a better way to get the Hue light bulb so we no need to buy them now! Method they will hate me for figuring it out but I have! You have done it with a single switch which is great but come to stairs lights it get harder on the setup process, took me a while but now finely have the correct swtuches and correct bulbs at £20 rateh then Hue bulbs at £85 so well worth following me!

  • @tamboen2000
    @tamboen2000 Рік тому

    do you know the value for the capacitor ?

  • @Clankillas
    @Clankillas 4 роки тому

    Lol! He says that: “if you don’t know Electrical that you should get a professional...” Yet he’s ‘not’ a professional and “doesn’t know” Electrical! 😆

    • @TheHomeent
      @TheHomeent 4 роки тому

      It's just a disclaimer . Lol

  • @electropalsceo
    @electropalsceo 4 роки тому +2

    I like how you used a jewelers screwdriver for everything

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +4

      😊 Not quite a jewelers screwdriver. It's a small electrical screwdriver. Wouldn't recommend using a jewelers as they tend not to be insulated.

    • @barry0013
      @barry0013 3 роки тому +2

      It's an electric insulated screw driver, It lights up to test if wire is live,,

  • @kevchahdans
    @kevchahdans Рік тому

    Hi man thanks for showing us step by step.. i have got a little problem here.. when i installed the capacitor and light up the light it make some noise ! Anything u can help me with please 🙌🏻

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  Рік тому

      Could be a loose connection, check all your connections. First place to start.

    • @kevchahdans
      @kevchahdans Рік тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow Okay i will check it out, thanks a lot man

  • @michaelshanahan9717
    @michaelshanahan9717 4 роки тому +1

    Do you know if it’s possible for the LED in the power symbol on the switch face itself to be shut off unless it’s flashing for a problem? Through use of the app perhaps? Seems a bit pointless for an LED to run when lights are on and would perhaps be a little annoying in a dark room with an LED lit up on the wall

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      In this particular light switch it is possible to switch off the network indicator. The network indicator is a blue light that shows when the light is off. The switch will still be lit orange when the light is on.
      This is possible with the eWeLink app. Not possible in the smart life app.
      If there is a problem with the network and you have the indicator off you won't be able to tell by looking at the switch.
      I was worried about this before I fitted them but the indicator light is so low you hardly notice it. The indicator can actually be useful for finding the switch in the dark.
      If I was fitting in a bedroom I would choose an ewelink one so the indicator can be switched off.
      Hope this helps 👍

  • @1292liam
    @1292liam 2 роки тому

    I want a switch that connects with a plug. Not bothered about linking a phone up to it. What do I need?

  • @garethjjones2471
    @garethjjones2471 4 роки тому

    Hi could you tell me if I can buy the capacitor you said about in the smart light switch video.

  • @lgx2410
    @lgx2410 Рік тому

    Thumbs up for not saying Alexa on the video!
    If there's no neutral, how is the circuit board being powered?

  • @flala2261
    @flala2261 4 роки тому +1

    Been looking for a light switch that is Silent Or at Least a lot Quieter than a common light switch
    as at night they are too noisy
    This looks interesting. 💡

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +1

      These switches have no moving parts so they are silent 👍

    • @flala2261
      @flala2261 4 роки тому +1

      Handyman Craft Glasgow that’s Good to know, thank you!

  • @azad998
    @azad998 4 роки тому

    I need help! I’m trying to install this in my living room, it has two light switches and I thought I could just change the one. Each switch has two red cables and one black, tried sticking two reds together and it doesn’t work, do I have to find 1 gang 2 way???! Can’t find them

  • @TheHomeent
    @TheHomeent 4 роки тому +2

    Shame that they don't do a dimmer version. I've been looking for a 2 gang dimmer without neutral for ages.
    Best I can come up with is a module that fits in the light unit and uses a standard switch. But needs the smart part to operate the dimmer.

    • @lawman1965
      @lawman1965 4 роки тому

      LightwaveRF do dimmer switches - however, they do require an additional hub which is quite expensive.

    • @lawman1965
      @lawman1965 4 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/yju7dZnwxD8/v-deo.html

  • @electropalsceo
    @electropalsceo 4 роки тому

    Nice video

  • @robb8954
    @robb8954 4 роки тому +1

    Hi I was wondering if you can use this switch with smart life app thanks

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      It only works with the eWelink app which is very basic compared to the smart life app. I have not found a way to get it to work on another app (smart life app would be amazing) but maybe someone else has had success with this.

    • @PTechMedia
      @PTechMedia 4 роки тому

      You can use it with Google assistant after linking the ewelink account with Google.

  • @fengo1
    @fengo1 4 роки тому +1

    Hi mate did you ever fit a two gang two-way one I'm a bit baffled how to cheers

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      As far as I know there are no two way switches with no neutral. Have seen 1, 2 and 3 gang with no neutral but as yet no two ways.
      I think there is a way to set up two smart switches to do this through automations in app, but that method would rely on WiFi.

  • @danthealien8360
    @danthealien8360 4 роки тому

    Great video thanks mate. How is a device powered from just a live? I thought a neutral was required to power anything. What makes these switches different? Thnks again

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      Not 100% sure but they must be able to create a potential difference in the switch in order for the electronics to work.

  • @jewkilla0
    @jewkilla0 4 роки тому

    Do you switch all the electricity in the house off? Or just make sure the switch itself is powered off? Thanks.

    • @sundialsoft
      @sundialsoft 4 роки тому

      If you know for sure that all your wiring is modern and 'up to code' then switching off just your up lights or down lights breaker would be fine. If it's an older house then you can't tell what might have been going on so worth killing all the power. eg: In my daughter's old flat half of the kitchen sockets stayed on when the main fuse was off. Turned out there was a separate supply for the cooker and certain sockets.

  • @chalonera1c
    @chalonera1c 4 роки тому

    Can you add a link for the switch please ? Thanks great video

  • @kikikiki4004
    @kikikiki4004 4 роки тому

    Hello works very well but i have try to add one or two more switchs on the same light and when i ask to google put the light on the light is on but all the switchs are offline... 2 or 3 switchs for the same light is possible ? Any idea ?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      I haven't tried these as two way switches and not sure its even possible. They work differently from a mechanical switch. Try contacting the seller.

    • @alanhale8489
      @alanhale8489 4 роки тому

      kiki kiki I have 2 of these and the are not suitable for 2 way switching

  • @dvoke1421
    @dvoke1421 4 роки тому

    What about if you have a 2 way switch - how would you wire that up with smart switches? I know you set up routines to sync the switches, but haven't found video to show how to replace the UK switches yet - with or without Neutral wires.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +1

      I have never done a two way switch with smart switches. Will look into it 👍

    • @garrymackenzie309
      @garrymackenzie309 4 роки тому

      You can set up themes within the apps so that when one switch is pressed it sends a signal to another switch. This does rely on the internet being live.

  • @RichnDebs
    @RichnDebs 3 роки тому

    Hi we have just bought a smart switch a sonoff one, we are trying to add to our fluorescent light in the kitchen, the light switch has 3 red cables in 2 together and 1 on its own, ive got it on and lit up, even set up to alexa but just won't turn the fluorescent light on and off, won't they work with those lights, or do I need something extra, I'm a newbe to smart switches and from the UK. Thanks

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      I do not think they will work with flourescent bulbs but I am not entirely sure. Have you fitted the capacitor?

  • @davidmcallister8272
    @davidmcallister8272 3 роки тому

    Hi
    As you only had the one lamp flickering, do you think you could has solved that flickering problem by just changing the old led for a newer style-instead of fitting the capacitor?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      I tried a lot of different ways to try and get it to work but in the end I had to fit the capacitor.

    • @davidmcallister8272
      @davidmcallister8272 3 роки тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow
      Ok thanks for the reply... my issue is that I have an old one gang switch , no neutral (which I’m hoping to swap for a smart switch) feeding 3 outdoor lights so I’m wondering where about in circuit do I fit the capacitor? I was hoping I wouldn’t need one! Thanks anyway!

  • @StotheUBeats
    @StotheUBeats 19 днів тому

    Hello! Mine doesn't show the blue light when it's off , any idea why? thanks.

  • @cheongedward9244
    @cheongedward9244 4 роки тому +1

    Hi, keen to do this but do you think this is safe by UK electrical standards? Could the capacitor short in any way?

    • @richardlyd7450
      @richardlyd7450 4 роки тому

      No things like that are in TV's radio's..etc...

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      Capacitors are very reliable and rarely break down. Not saying it cant happen but its rare. I have had no problems with the capacitor so far.
      Switch working fine as well although sometimes it will switch on or off, will be making a follow up video.

  • @ezrinsamsudin8142
    @ezrinsamsudin8142 4 роки тому +1

    If the switch controls 2 light points, do we need to add capacitor to each light point?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      It should be fine with just the one capacitor.
      I haven't tried a light in a two light set up so to be completely certain maybe worth while emailing the supplier direct.
      There is a link to their website in the description.

    • @tomp.8129
      @tomp.8129 4 роки тому +1

      As manufacturer shows in some instructions the capacitor is only needed for 1st light bulb.

    • @stuartrhoades4306
      @stuartrhoades4306 4 роки тому +1

      The capacitor is used to basically create a circuit to allow the switch to work without a neutral connection.

  • @downtqwn
    @downtqwn 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video, the smart switch works only on LED lights.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  8 місяців тому

      It will work with filament bulbs as well, if you can find them.

  • @catsarereallyfurryaliens
    @catsarereallyfurryaliens 4 роки тому

    Please use a better fitting screw driver for those bolts and shorten the bare ends of conductors before they short on back box!

  • @johnknowles1912
    @johnknowles1912 4 роки тому

    Nice video Handyman Craft Glasgow, thanks! I have been considering this as well as others. My light switches have a neutral behind them so I am wondering what my best option is. Also, the capacitor... I have a standard 2 gang at the moment. Controlling a string of 6 GU10's in series and a ceiling fitting like yours - would the capacitor just be fitted behind one GU10 fitting (string of 6 in series). Would I also need one for the fitting too? Thanks

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +1

      If you have a neutral then you are laughing. You shouldn't need the capacitor at all .You will have a larger choice of switches to choose from and they are usually cheaper.
      I would go with a standard smart switch if I was lucky enough to have a neutral.

  • @alundraaes738
    @alundraaes738 3 роки тому

    necesitad alguna app para conectarll a golgle?

  • @alanmuir9768
    @alanmuir9768 4 роки тому

    Just what I need

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment.

    • @alanmuir9768
      @alanmuir9768 4 роки тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow Just had a quick look in my switches, they have a tagged line for a switched live. Will that work do you think?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      I couldn't say. Difficult to give advice about electrics remotely.

  • @dammo1932
    @dammo1932 Рік тому

    @HandymanCraftGlasgow Followed your tutorial and all seemed to go well. However, there are three other rooms connected on the same loop. When the lights are switched on in one of these rooms, the lights with the capacitor and smart switch fitted flash very briefly.
    Any idea what might cause this?

  • @primpster123
    @primpster123 3 роки тому

    Hi good video, problem Im having is there is no I LumoS app on android to control the light?

  • @prathabram
    @prathabram 4 роки тому

    Great how to video. Thanks for making this! Tried to install today.. Lights flashed slowly on and off but couldn't see blue ring around power switch.. Any ideas what i was doing wrong? Do i just need to install the capacitor?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      I would always install the capacitor for these switches. Should work after that 👍

    • @prathabram
      @prathabram 4 роки тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow thanks. Switched to an old non led light bulb and got it to work for now. Capacitor fix is next up. Thanks.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      Great. It should work no problem once the capacitor is in 👍

  • @JohnDoepoops
    @JohnDoepoops 3 роки тому

    i have two outdoor lights and the 1switch is inside (The Wire connecting from light to switch is hidden)- fitting the capacitor is a bit of an issue could i add a cable connector behind the wall switch and then add a capacitor there?
    ie- take the wires from the wall into a cable connector > Add the capacitor >> then add the switch?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      These are no neutral switches. The capacitor is fitted across the live and neutral, usually in the light fitting. If you have a neutral at the switch you don't need one of these switches, another type would be better.

    • @JohnDoepoops
      @JohnDoepoops 3 роки тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow ok i think i get it now the capacitor has to be fitted at the other end ie the wires coming from the wall light into a cable connector from the light side, not from the switch side. i bought a cheap version of yours £18 amazon did the job got it to work but mines is non-dimmable.

  • @jcadventurehd
    @jcadventurehd 4 роки тому

    you can get them form screw fix for £22

  • @voiceoftreason1760
    @voiceoftreason1760 4 роки тому

    it seems to work great but I really don't want non tactile buttons for light switches.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      I quite like something tactile as well. These ones are tactile - wifi-smart-home.co.uk/smart-wi-fi-light-switches/21-no-neutral-one-gang-wifi-switch

  • @mtayebalsebai2681
    @mtayebalsebai2681 Рік тому

    So we don’t need the neutral wire ? And can u tell me what is the benefit of the capacitor? Because when i bought the switch it comes with audiophile , is it same?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  Рік тому

      If you have a neutral wire at the switch then use a smart switch that requires a neutral.
      If you only have live wires then a no neutral switch is required.
      The capacitor allows the switch to draw a bit of power it needs to run.
      I don't know what audiophile is in this context.
      👍

  • @nickbeale9194
    @nickbeale9194 3 роки тому

    Hi
    I have just wired one in but doesnt switch on or off, I have the switch illuminating and it connected to wifi.
    Its connected to a 7 bulb chandelier with LED dimmers installed.
    Wire colours at the switch are red(live), black(neutral) and an earth.
    I have L, L1 and neutral connections on the switch, (tried the live in both L and L1 but nothing)?
    It came with a capacitor but I have not added this yet though.
    Could you please help and give an idea what I am doing wrong?
    Thank you in advance.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      You will need the capacitor for led bulbs.
      You have to check your switch cables with a meter. It sounds like they are both lives. The constant live goes to L and the switched live to L1.
      If you are not sure call in a pro 👍

  • @donf3739
    @donf3739 4 роки тому +1

    Mine doesn't work. Is the capacitor polarized, or can you insert it into the circuit either way?
    It's in the U.S. Does that make a difference?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +3

      The capacitor should work either way round. As long as the switch is rated for 120v it should be fine. We work with 240v in the uk.
      I am not sure about wiring in the US and how switches are set up so can't really advise you.

    • @donf3739
      @donf3739 4 роки тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow Thank you. It sounds like the voltage might have something to do with the capacitance necessary, so I won't bother reversing the capacitor wires. I'll try to ask the seller about the capacitance.
      Cheers!

  • @akilailesinghe2768
    @akilailesinghe2768 3 роки тому

    what will happen if you have only with neutral wire switches? is it possible to use in loop wire system

  • @maxwellbarnaby
    @maxwellbarnaby 4 роки тому

    I have this light switch, but I can’t get it to work properly. It connects to the WiFi and can be switched on but then when I try to switch it off it seems to crash and disconnect from the WiFi and won’t work when I touch it. Any ideas?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      Do you have it connected to a two way light? If not, do you have the capacitor fitted? Make sure the wires are the right way round.

  • @madnlooney
    @madnlooney 3 роки тому

    For those who get a 2 gang version watch out for the load drop per gang compared to this single one. I think it's from 300w to 100w.
    Yes I didn't check and blew the switch board when turning it on

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому +1

      Good point. Always a good thing to check the load of any switch before replacing - especially if you are using halogen or filament bulbs.

  • @empatel96
    @empatel96 4 роки тому

    Just checked a switch out in one of my rooms, it's got black and red connected to a switch and green that's just hanging and not connected to anything. Would this switch be compatible?

    • @empatel96
      @empatel96 4 роки тому

      looks like this.. imgur.com/a/I6cU20P

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +1

      This switch should work. You need to be able to test the wires, one will be constantly live. Seek a pro if you are not sure 👍

  • @steeevebt
    @steeevebt 4 роки тому

    Bit confused , there is no neutral at all. Even going into my lights. I have Live and switch live. Where would the capacitor go?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      The capacitor is fitted at the light fitting across live and neutral. There will be a live and neutral somewhere but you will have to test or get an electrician. Electrician would be a good call in this case.

    • @pauldymott8991
      @pauldymott8991 4 роки тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow hi there. I didn't know there was a fix for this. Could you let me know what capacitor it is. I can 5hen retro fit some. Thanks

  • @Sukiharaa
    @Sukiharaa 4 роки тому

    Question. My smart switch came today and it only has N L and L1, can this be used with white com wire and 2 red L1 wires?

    • @Sukiharaa
      @Sukiharaa 4 роки тому

      Ive tried a few combinations and the obly way i can get it to function is white wire in N and the 2 lives in L. But the light just flashes constantly

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      The light flashing is usually caused by the capacitor not being fitted.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      Cant really advise on this. You need to know which is the common and what cable goes to the light.

  • @joefreeman3028
    @joefreeman3028 4 роки тому

    Can this switch be used to dim lights as well?

  • @alastairwaters9114
    @alastairwaters9114 4 роки тому

    What would the implications be of using earth as a neutral on the switches that require neutral?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +2

      Don't do it. There will be safety implications. The earth is there for a reason and is deliberately wired to ground and does not carry a voltage. Putting a voltage down it could cause difficulties with your breakers or you may cause a part of your electrical circuit to become live that shouldn't.
      All metal in your house like your plumbing is bonded to earth and any metal switches, lamps, appliances are all earthed. Putting a voltage on there could have unforeseen and dangerous consequences. I would certainly not take the risk.

    • @catsarereallyfurryaliens
      @catsarereallyfurryaliens 4 роки тому +3

      Absolutely don’t! Earth is your safety wire

    • @scratchblack
      @scratchblack 4 роки тому

      Why do people who know fuck all about electrics mess with electrics!!!!! Leave it to the professionals!!!!

  • @jinxUKBK
    @jinxUKBK Рік тому

    Hi thanks for the vid buddy. I just wanted to know does is have a dimming option and what app are u using

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  Рік тому

      The app is ewelink and that particular switch does not have dimming 👍

    • @jinxUKBK
      @jinxUKBK Рік тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow thank u so much for your reply very helpful

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  Рік тому

      No problem. Have a look about there are loads of these switches on the market now. Aqara does some nice no neutrals 👍, not sure about dimmables though.

  • @iRBrummie
    @iRBrummie 3 роки тому

    does it hum? I installed just like your video, it works...... but the light humms/buzz..... any suggestions?

  • @Christosseventy7
    @Christosseventy7 2 роки тому

    Any idea how the capacitor would work with spot lights that all run off one switch. Can the capacitor be connected to the first bulb??

    • @snoopy8885
      @snoopy8885 2 роки тому

      You can install it in any light.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  2 роки тому

      As snoopy says, any lights so long as they are the 250v gu10 bulbs and not the 12v types 👍

  • @macieljustinocunhacunha5913
    @macieljustinocunhacunha5913 3 роки тому

    Boa tarde,vcs tem que explicar como faz as ligações da fiação primeiro não a configuração,a configuração deixa por ultimo.

  • @kadeluis8724
    @kadeluis8724 3 роки тому

    Will it work with Alexa even with out the neural Wire and just power and ground. And I do not have LED lights so will they Flicker?

  • @alvaronbg
    @alvaronbg 2 роки тому

    how can I use that switch on stairs ? I have two switches to deal with that but I dont know how connect each other

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  2 роки тому

      You can't with no neutral switches. You can't use these in a two way set up.

  • @thecarguychannel
    @thecarguychannel 4 роки тому

    Could you upload the link for the capacitor or the model number of the capacitor as I need one and can not find one. Thank you

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому +1

      Hi
      It's one of these capacitors, but not the exact type. You need to find one with insulated legs. It is the exact spec of capacitor just without leg insulation, a place to start. so you may have to hunt a bit for the insulated leg type.
      Don't try and use one without insulated legs, you could cause your light fitting to go live or cause a fire.
      www.ebay.co.uk/i/283186542120?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=283186542120&targetid=910255718549&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9046944&poi=&campaignid=9441122850&mkgroupid=96109442536&rlsatarget=aud-629407026465:pla-910255718549&abcId=1140496&merchantid=113592178&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwr32BRD4ARIsAAJNf_014m7DauU652wUhCN4c6FlvWUZUEJeZc9bFxuEOu4FRViFW8wgMqwaAhK_EALw_wcB

    • @thecarguychannel
      @thecarguychannel 4 роки тому

      Thank you

    • @spatislav
      @spatislav 3 роки тому

      @@handymancraftglasgow Does the capacitance play the role? I mean my capacitor is 4.5uF, do I need to look for exactly the same?

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  3 роки тому

      Not sure about that. I would use the same size and type just to be sure it will work.

  • @richierich.1982
    @richierich.1982 Рік тому

    How is the switch getting the neutral return path to work. Magic!! Alessandro Volta would be shocked...pardon the pun.

  • @rexiot
    @rexiot 4 роки тому

    I prefer to add a Neutral wire to the wall switch and use the two wires smart product.

    • @handymancraftglasgow
      @handymancraftglasgow  4 роки тому

      That would be the best option. Could be expensive in older properties.

    • @rexiot
      @rexiot 4 роки тому

      Handyman Craft Glasgow
      Most of older properties have pip for power cabling, if so, then add the Neutral wire become easier, I did it for three wall switches in my house within 40mins.

  • @khalidqamber7356
    @khalidqamber7356 3 роки тому

    Do you guys hear sound coming from your light when you connect the capacitor?? Is it normal ?